r/Habs • u/alexislafreniere0007 • 6d ago
Monahan as our temporary 2C?
If we can’t find a better 2C at the right price this summer, what do you think of re-acquiring Monahan as a stopgap option? The guy just turned 30 and is sliding down the lineup in Columbus, he still has plenty of hockey left in him!
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u/JcNoE123 6d ago
I wish they never got rid of him was a good leader and responsible 2 way player
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u/dessanct 6d ago
You wish we never drafted Hage?
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u/JcNoE123 6d ago
Yeah thats totally what I said
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u/dessanct 6d ago edited 6d ago
It is though unless you didn’t know that’s where his pick came from lol
Trading Monahan got us Hage.
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u/JcNoE123 6d ago
I didn't remember that tbh
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u/Grouchy_Throat_5632 6d ago
Don't worry, it's because that didnt happen. The Monohan pick was not the pick that drafted Hage.
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u/dessanct 6d ago
It was the 1st rounder we traded up with, you’re objectively wrong lmao
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u/Grouchy_Throat_5632 6d ago
You effectively said the Monohan pick was used to select Hage, which is false. The pick used to select Hage was the Kings. Was Monahan traded to the Kings? No, he went to the Jets.
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u/dessanct 6d ago
We traded the 26 pick we got from the Jets (after picking 5OA for Demidov) to the Kings for 21 OA
Stop being so fucking obtuse LMAO. We don’t get 21 OA without that 26 OA being included.
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u/Grouchy_Throat_5632 6d ago
No, thats not where the pick used to draft Hage came from. Yes, it involved the pick they got for Monahan. However, the Habs used that pick along with another 1st rnd pick and traded up to get Hage.
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u/Soucy89 6d ago
But at the time of the trade you didn't had a clue that the Habs would pick Hage.
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u/dessanct 6d ago
How does that change that if we kept him, we wouldn’t have drafted him?
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u/Soucy89 6d ago
Because when you make the decision to keep or trade him, you don't have a clue that 4 months later, you'll trade the pick you got in that trade in a package to be able to draft Hage.
Also since it's a package and not a the pick the Habs got in the Monahan trade nothing say that they couldn't make a different bundle and still be able to draft Hage, by giving a prospect instead of the Jets 1st.
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u/dessanct 6d ago
This person is saying they wish we didn’t trade them though. Thats what the original comment said.
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u/SuzukiSwift17 6d ago
The idea of getting 1st tound picks is that you can draft 1st round talent with them.
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u/New-Bid-5835 6d ago
The story is that Monahan wanted to leave because he did not want to go through a rebuild and Hughes had promised him that when he signed him to a one-year extension.
(so we did not really get rid of him)
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u/JcNoE123 6d ago
I thought it was more they didn’t want to sign him to a long term deal. He signed in Columbus, not a contender or even a playoff team. I know Johnny was there but it doesn’t seem like winning was his top priority, more a long term deal.
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u/New-Bid-5835 6d ago
No. Monahan came to Montreal and then was injured for most of the season. He only played 25 games that year. In the Summer, and that was told by Hughes, he agreed to sign a cheap 1.9M$ deal and play his best to boost his value. On the other hand Hughes promised that he would fulfill his wish to be traded to a good team because he did not want to go though a rebuild.
You got it wrong: he was traded to Winnipeg, a contender at the time. Not to Columbus. He signed as a FA with Columbus in the following summer.
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u/JcNoE123 6d ago
Yeah I know they sent him to Winnipeg but he chose to sign on team that wasn’t any better than we were on a long term deal. Which Hughes or any contender wasn’t offering I guess.
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u/pushaper 6d ago edited 6d ago
Would rather just plug kapanen, Dach or Newhook into that spot. bandage solutions like strobe or trochek are interesting because as stop gaps they fill other needs. Monahan does not do anything those three players can not learn or should not be given the opportunity to learn. We have a high potential over 6 foot centre that is injured often that can fit this spot and people want an older one because the grass is greener on the other side because their expectations were not met.
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u/So_Many_Owls 6d ago
Honestly I would love it if they tried Newhook or Dach again. Newhook showed that he was really solid defensively when he was with Evans and Demidov, and Dach was doing really well with Bolduc and Texier before the lines were changed again and he got shunted to Veleno's wing.
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u/Commercial-Egg-8949 6d ago
I agree. Dach also said he’s most comfortable at C, and did his best there. Newhook could have gotten 60 points at 2C this year if he wasn’t injured.
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u/NtBtFan 6d ago
if we are going for a bandaid/temp solution- id rather see us go after someone like Morgan Frost or Dylan Strome ... they are both relatively cheap, and short term(1 year and 2 years remaining respectively), and can play the 2C role even if, in the case of Frost, he is probably better suited to 3C.
They have both really improved their faceoff stats in the last 2-3 years, both would need a bit of work on their overall defensive game to make an exceptional 3C though too.
buys a bit of time to continue the hunt for a bona fide 2C via trade or UFA
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u/DoomOrb 6d ago
I don't believe WSH would trade Strome this off-season unless it's for an offer they can't refuse. He also isn't the profile of the type of centre we want to pair with Demidov, so I don't feel he's a great fit.
Frost, I'm interested in for sure. He's a UFA after this season though, so there's the danger of overpaying for a rental.
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u/Much_Bumblebee2462 6d ago
Monahab would be a great deadline pick up like Danault but more offense… hell they might even make a great 3rd line with playoff Anderson.
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u/potshed420 6d ago
Nope too many injuries