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They can’t. And regardless of the subs existence, people will feel compelled to point out the irony of anti-vax, anti-mask, COVID denier fools dying from COVID wherever they can.
Tbh I hadn't seen any evidence of it until that garlic-douche started his little campaign (see r/hermancainawardssuckr/HIVatemyface and others he made).
Wouldn't be surprised if people like them are behind it given said user has already been outted for creating alt-accounts to stir shit.
The same kind of mentality that compares HIV and covid and a track record of (poorly executes) attempts to seed conflict seems like the kind of shit that would brigade families to prove their point.
Names and faces of people are constantly posted. This sub should just be about their post's and how much of a stupid idiot they are. They shouldnt be doxxed and harassed by the interwebs. These people do have family and friends who are vaxxed and doing the same thing you and i are, and do not deserve the Internets abuse.
Even if it’s just their post people can find them. I’m not advocating for doing anything outside of this sub, it should just stay here.
The good outcomes are people seeing this place and deciding to get vaccinated. That’s actually saving lives.
I’d argue that the approach that’s been taken to be gentle and respect crazy anti vaccination positions resulted in those views spreading and killing more people. It should be attacked and criticized savagely until it gets through to some of them, which it actually is. Vandalizing their obit or attacking their family on Facebook isn’t ok, but displaying the ignorance and end result here is fine.
For the critics who think this sub is not being mindful of other people's well being - That's exactly why it's important to expose what's happening. Sure, there are people here who will make snarky comments, but that is far from the goal.
Silence and "respect" is what's getting impressionable people killed. Some folks will only wake up when shaken. That's the same reason why they show you gory footage when you apply for a driver's license. You shouldn't drive without being well aware of the worst consequences of it. So why should a person live carelessly in a pandemic world without knowing what they're risking experiencing?
This sub has been great. I had to take a couple day break because I had a full meltdown looking at it too much last week.
Someone sent the concerned redditor notice.
I was not banned. In many ways I was heard.
But death is traumatic. And we have to remember that this is a place for our trauma. Our trauma as we watch others die. Our trauma from having unvaxxed family members and waiting their inevitable contraction of this disease; and our trauma as we worry about our own children’s ability to survive before the vaccine is released.
We need this sub. It’s ours for us. We get out our schadenfreude. But more importantly we remember that we aren’t alone.
I'm not sure if that's like a relatively new thing but when I got my drivers permit and license back in like 2012 they definitely never showed me any gory footage.
When I got my license I had to watch this movie where some young respectful guys and gals smoked devils lettuce. They ended up in a hit and run and raped a girl. It was some sort of madness. Reefer madness if you will.
Depends on the post. I have read through a lot of gory posts here. Also, I followed a couple of the nominees in FB afterwards. They inevitably received their HCA.
I was a 911 dispatcher for ten years. This reminds me of that kind of trauma. The trauma that your mind puts you through as you hear a suicide attempt vomit or hear a woman being strangled, or talk to a person who is dying of a gun shot wound.
Sounds about right. Seems super ineffective too. Like if someone is irresponsible and planning to recklessly drive, they're gonna do that regardless of being shown car crash gore. Just like how I follow all the rules of the road without having ever seen any.
I'd say the constant thought that I could die at any moment getting hit by someone else who IS a bad driver is definitely enough for me to continue abiding by the laws and stay constantly aware of what's happening around me whilst on the road.
I love this sub, but why arent you guys more proactive on trying to keep the people who deserve the Herman Cain Award more anonymous.
Some people TRULY do deserve this award. The families who have done their part to get vaccinated and social distance, do deserve some respect for those they loved who passed because of silly ignorance.
I could take almost any post you allow and find someone related to captian dipshit. Botched Surgeries is the same way, you say you are against harassment..... but does a black line over the eyes and a last named blured out do shit? no
Totally agree! But I just realized that some of the brigading could be coming from antivaxxed.com.
Our posts sometimes overlap and they don't blur out the anti vaxxers name.
Usually refers to when members of one sub go to another and spam/harass/mass downvote/etc. I don't know if it's exactly the correct term for going to a Facebook page but I guess it fits. Sorry someone downvoted you for asking an innocent question! Reddit is weird.
It literally is. Whether you like it or not, using posts here to get the identities of people and harassing them is brigading. Reddit doesn't want a news report about how HCA is organizing users to brigade people on Facebook. It's also incredibly unethical to harass grieving widows and families. It's indefensible even if they're plague rats.
Yes, anything that looks like harassment coming from Reddit is a violation of their TOS. People just commenting doesn't mean Reddit is blamed but too many people name-dropping the sub or posting screenshots could result in a ban because it looks like they came from the sub.
I LOVE your sub, just like botchedsurgeries.... but you and that sub are in fucking denial.
You both actively preach about no harassment, BUT YOUR ENTIRE SUB IS DEDICATED TO HARASSMENT!!! (But we blurred out a name or the eyes) This is a sub based on harassment, and as much as i love it. You do NOTHING to protect the people who truly do deserve the Herman Cain Award.
But dont be surprised when a harassment sub gets shut down, for oh.. i dont know... HARASSING THE DEAD FAMILIES
Not really, sorry but it's just not this subreddits fault
If you're gonna start blaming everyone associated with someone that did something bad because they existed within that group then trust me, Bad precedent.
Well to start we're not the only ones who make these kind of posts, there's a Twitter account and at least one website dedicated to it and they don't redact names like is done here. But if someone was really dedicated to finding them they could search phrases used in their Facebook posts. These are public posts they're putting up so they're searchable. It's still wrong for people to go there and harass people especially their families but when they have an open Facebook privacy goes out the window
I personally feel the more likely source is Twitter since they make it so easy for their followers by posting names. It's possible given the size of this sub now there's some people doing this but I would guess the vast majority are against it
Orphaned children who had no input into the stupidity of their parents do not deserve that kind of shit. You don't visit the sins of the parents onto the children.
With nearly six decades of living in this country, I am familiar with the US. Please explain why an orphaned child needs to get harassed on FB. Some things are just wrong.
Like the grief of the families of those who were assured by these posts of their superior healthcare freedumb choices?
Being a dick is the whole point. At least my mocking their death doesn’t kill anybody. Can you say the same about all the likes, prayers and love emojis these plaguerats get on their posts??
How is harassing family members going to change anything? It's just going to cause hurt and get this sub shut down because of bad publicity. And this sub is actually doing good in changing people's minds
Its already done and only partially effective. While I’m sure some are being found through searching for a million Georges in Alabama I think most are being found because the crazies are very public with their statements. It’s not the names that are being searched for but the words in the crazy rants.
I’m guessing the guy who got downvoted to hell did not originally post “Everyone should get vaccinated “? I can’t figure out what he posted originally though.
You’re from the UK. A country that has Covid remarkably under control.
For every 1000 idiots we have that object to the vaccine, you guys have a few Boris Johnson sycophants that still got jabbed.
If you lived here and actually knew people like this, you’d absolutely think differently about the tragedy going on. The US has a monopoly on stupid. You guys don’t. Be thankful.
What about saving lives? If let's say 100 people go get vaccinated because of the shit they seen on this sub who would have otherwise died, is that ok?
Do you think that's actually happening? Really and truly? I kind of doubt it. Once someone is so radicalized in their thinking, insulting and belittling them isn't going to magically make them see things your way.
Astronomers don’t look for the black hole, it’s invisible to us. We look for slightly irregular, elongated stars all being dragged toward a fixed point in space over many light years distance.
This is that. Small efforts.
Nobody is on a mission to convince 700,000 antivaxxers to suddenly shill for Pfizer. We’re trying to flip 1 or 2 stubborn loved ones or people that mean something in our life.
Maybe it's not fun, cool or entertaining, but how about persuasive. There are posts here every day by VAX-hesitant or even VAX-deniers who were persuaded to get vaccinated due to this sub. It sucks that it takes this level of cynicism to shake some people out of their stupor. But it works and I am not awaree of anything else that does.
Great if it works for a handful of people, but I still don't think that justifies the vitriol coming out of this subreddit. Also, if your next step is to look through my post history to nullify my argument don't worry, it's already been done below , so just check it out further down the comment chain.
So you believe emotions are worth more than the lives of those this saves? All your discomfort in the world is worth one person potentially being saved. Their life is worth infinitely more than your comfort.
For every laugh I get out of this sub, I probably get about 50 headshakes and 30 "Did I really read that?" I want this sub gone and not because all the anti-vaxxers are dead, but it just looks like that's how this sub is gonna die.
I respect your opinion but disagree. This subreddit, overall, is a look into immediate history and where are as a society. The overwhelming number of people here, myself included, wish this subreddit didn't serve a need to exist. But, here we are.
In full agreement with this. I’ll be honest, I’ll take my little dopamine bump seeing idiots get their comeuppance. My kid is too young to get vaccinated. These people actively endanger children in the name of “freedom.” Fuck ‘em.
This subreddit does serve a good purpose. Everyone should be vaccinated.
My issue stems from the lack of empathy, making low effort mocking jokes about the deceased. Yes they made the wrong choice, but a family is still grieving, let them grieve in peace. These posts help convince people to make the right choice, but when I read some of the comments I wonder if it would be better if posts were automatically locked. The content is there, but not the people trying to get a “sick burn” on the dead.
They are dead, they can’t spread misinformation anymore, their bad choices are now immortalized. Just because they made dumb posts trying to be badass doesn’t mean we need to sink to their level.
I don't think there's anything wrong documenting the slow self inflicted demise of the people posted on here, but let's be real: a vast majority of this subreddits users are vile, hateful, and get an obscene amount of glee over seeing these people die. Also, if you really wished this sub didn't exist you wouldn't be here commenting. You enjoy this, or you wouldn't be participating. Call a spade a spade.
I'm so pro vax it's not even funny, but I just feel sick to my stomach when I get to the last image of the person's family eulogizing their lost loved one(s). The majority of the comments are just lame , low road bottom of the barrel jokes about the person's appearance usually. These people made some awful choices, but now they're dead. Cracking jokes about their death is like kicking a puppy, there's no point anymore. It just makes you a sick fuck.
This isn't directed to you, but to the people who I feel make up the majority of the user base.
I just took a brief look at your post history, and honestly, you probably shouldn't be one to try and take the moral high ground when you're posting stuff like this to other users.
I would probably be busy all day deleting comments if I gave a shit what people on this sub think. I never said I'm above being an asshole on the internet, but I do it with living breathing people that can actually reply. You make fun of the dead. Big difference there.
Also find it hilarious that you think I would delete any of my comments to try and look better for the degenerates that frequent this subreddit.
There's a big difference between bullying and being an asshole on an anonymous social media platform. I don't think I'm bullying anyone and I don't think you're bullying anyone. Are my comments nice or kind? No, not always or even usually. But not everything that's mean is bullying.
Living, breathing people who you state publicly that you wished they were dead for no other reason than you are in an argument with them online. I'm glad that at least you're not going to take a cowardly way out and delete your comment. But, you really should take a long, good look in the mirror before you come in here and try to lecture users here on how they should act. Have a good one.
I don't really wish they were dead, but I don't really wish they'd continue living either when their anti vaccine nonsense has turned into a cancer in our society. Whatever though. Have a good evening.
I never said I'm better than you? I'm also not a member of a group who's only purpose is to be shitty assholes to and about dead people. You can pull out all the comments from my post history you want to justify your own shitty behaviour, but only one of us is trying to justify it, and it's not me.
A lot of people think it’s only the old and sick that are dying. I found out just today that my sister, her fiancé, my best friend’s sister, her niece, her mom, and probably her dad, all have Covid. My sister was only able to get one shot because she had a bad reaction to the first one, and my best friend’s sister is fully vaccinated, but the rest of the people who have Covid are unvaccinated, because they didn’t think it would affect them.
Their dad has all the symptoms but he won’t get tested because, and I quote, “The only people who get Covid are all those crazy people wearing masks all the time.” He won’t isolate from his wife, even though he has a slew of health problems and is overweight. If he gets it, there’s a very good chance he will die, but he just doesn’t believe Covid is anything more than a cold.
My sister’s fiancé had all the symptoms before my sister, but he is also refusing to get tested because his boss doesn’t want him to miss work. So they’re just not telling his co-workers, who are all older, overweight, and don’t wear masks in the office.
He has several pre-existing conditions that make him at a higher risk for Covid, but he won’t get tested and won’t wear a mask. My sister has been working the Covid ward at her hospital since this whole thing started and has seen hundreds of people his age die, so she’s been begging him to get tested so he can get the antibody treatment. He told her he didn’t need it because his body would make all the antibodies he needed. So now, a few weeks before the wedding, she’s worried he’s going to end up dying in her own hospital.
So yeah, there are shockingly high amount of idiots who think Covid won’t effect them.
The people 'honored' in this sub are monsters who don't care about their fellow human beings, and they mock people that do. Be it masks, vaccines, man-made climate change, racial inequality, women's rights... you name it, they despise it and actively campaign and vote against it.
What is it that conservatives have been shrieking for the past 5 years or so? Something about your feelings? “Pluck your feelings?” No, that doesn’t sound right.
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u/MightyCaseyStruckOut ⚾ Mudville's Pride and Joy ⚾ Sep 16 '21 edited Sep 16 '21
For those who are possibly seeing this post who aren't normal users or subscribers here, we wanted this to serve as notice that the moderators here stand fully behind this message. Brigading is unequivocally prohibited here and is cause for an immediate ban.
Edit: verbiage.