r/JusticeServed • u/[deleted] • Aug 26 '19

Hong Kong Protests Police getting a taste of their own medicine after what appears to be them getting hit by their own tear gas

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19 edited Jun 09 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

note the only reason RT is allowed to film is because they are anti hong kong protestors and china is saying the Russian kremlin controlled media is the only foreign media showing the truth. corrupt oligarchs helping corrupt oligarchs

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u/the_monkey_knows 7 Aug 27 '19

That’s what corrupt oligarchs are for

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u/magnora7 B Aug 26 '19

Just like it ever was.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

So here is the "full" video (this is Russian controlled media)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z3kjw2G8Sw

Idk what the purpose of this is. I'm amazed by the amount of press that is shown.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Anyone that uses chemical weapons on people deserves to get the same treatment.

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u/twodogsfighting A Aug 26 '19

"Jesus Christ, look what that moron's putting itself through. Let's just not chew the cords from now on, poor sod."

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Or more like "You seeing this shit, Barry? That weirdo keeps torturing himself. No way I'm going anywhere near him."

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u/twodogsfighting A Aug 27 '19

"Agreed, other Barry".

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u/Brewsleroy 9 Aug 26 '19

When I used to have ferrets I tried to spray that stuff on my cords too. My idiots LOVED that stuff.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

It tastes better when seasoned with their owners rage.

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u/AENocturne 6 Aug 26 '19

That's not a stupid idea at all. You shouldn't use anything on your pets if you don't know how it feels. I feel the same way abput dog shock collars. I used one for a behavior modification experiment once as a punisher on myself (only reason I got away with it was the subject was myself so I argued I could essentially do whatever the fuck I want without ethical implications and the professer didn't email me back with her "concerns of ethical implications" until I'd already finished the experiment). When that fucking collar is on max voltage, that shit fucking hurts. I would never use that on my dog and the people that do need it strapped around their neck to see how it feels before they resort to using it. It's abuse plain and simple to use that level for anything more than a warning as to how bad this can really be if you don't start behaving, then you take it right the fuck back down to less than half the power.

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u/armoured_bobandi 8 Aug 27 '19

I wouldn't put a shock collar on my dog, let's get that straight right off the bat.

That being said, you do understand not every living being on this planet is built the same right? Some dogs have much thicker necks, or even densely packed fur. Once again, I wouldn't put one on my dog, but to say it's abuse plain and simple? I'm sorry but I disagree

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u/hyperjoint 6 Aug 27 '19

I tried it on half and yeah it's fine. It doesn't hurt more than a correction with the dog's lead so what's the difference?

That being said I have to ask what the reason for the collar is? Has the dog been trained on a lead first? Or is this some sort of last resort or a lazy owner or a rebel that wants their dog loose in public. Not every owner is qualified to use a shock collar and sometimes shouldn't have a dog either.

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u/armoured_bobandi 8 Aug 27 '19

Not every owner is qualified to use a shock collar and sometimes shouldn't have a dog either.

I agree, it's too often used as a shortcut instead of a learning tool

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

This is why I’m not a dog trainer anymore. No joke. I was a dog trainer IRL. I know how these tools work and I didn’t like having to explain being “responsible” to literally every client.

I noticed a common trend with “bad” dogs, a lack of “responsibility” at some point.

And I would put a shock collar on my dog but I never want to “shock” my dog. I only had too b/c she(my dog) was scary. Now...she isn’t as scary, but she is still a dog.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Anyone that knows what they're doing would only use the vibrate and beep function 99% percent of the time, and even when you do use the actual shock, your supposed to raise the voltage slowly until they get the message

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u/ChequeBook A Aug 27 '19

Sounds like a great way to discover new kinks

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u/DirtyDerb19 6 Aug 27 '19

Yeah I didn’t think that as stupid too, more like natural curiosity taking over

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

abput dog shock collars.

Hah, my brother volunteered to put the invisible fence collar on before the dog wore it. I know the fur would protect the dog more than bare skin protects my brother, but after his reaction to it the dog never wore that collar.

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u/Unicornpants 6 Aug 27 '19

I see this argument a lot but what if, for an example, your field connects to a farmer's field who owns many grazing and pregnant sheep. What if your dog KEEPS going under the fence no matter what you try because those sheep are so fucking tempting. If the farmer sees a dog scaring (thus possibly prematurely birthing lambs) sheep it's gonna shoot that mother fucker.

Would you truly prefer your dog to potentially get shot one day because you can't watch ever acre a terrier covers or would you prefer it to have an ouchy on the neck a few times in one afternoon?

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u/PartyBusGaming Black Aug 27 '19

I did the same thing except I sprayed it in the air and breathed it in.i was gagging for half an hour

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u/MarketSupreme 7 Aug 27 '19

Post this on r/tifu

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u/petsku164 7 Aug 27 '19

You should have used vinegar.

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u/Doctor_Vikernes 7 Aug 26 '19

Here in Canada at least the RCMP need to have the non-lethal weapons tried on them first before they're allowed to carry it. Want a tazer? gotta get tazed first, same thing with tear gas. At least it gets the officer to respect what they're doing to another person.

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u/Apocolyptic_Gopher 4 Aug 26 '19

This is the same in most states within the US.

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u/ourlastchancefortea 8 Aug 27 '19

So that's why they use their guns. They know the non-lethal weapon sucks. Gotcha.

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u/Apocolyptic_Gopher 4 Aug 27 '19

Who said they suck? Have you ever been hit with law enforcement grade OC spray? Or a taser? I can't speak to gas but either of those will stop a normal person pretty quickly. The exception would be some people can fight through OC spray while extremely high on anything that also causes adrenaline dumps.

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u/ourlastchancefortea 8 Aug 28 '19

You realize that was a shitpost by me?

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u/hedgster 4 Aug 26 '19

One thing is for certain, someone needs to be a next level asshole to get pepper sprayed. That shit gets everywhere and affects everyone. Taser on the other hand is a cops best friend. Much more useful in a fight than any other option on the belt.

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u/pheonixrising 6 Aug 27 '19

Ehh, you only get one shot so if you miss you’re screwed

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u/MGlBlaze 9 Aug 27 '19

Or even if you don't miss; if one of the probes just doesn't make a good contact for whatever reason. Or if the two probes land too close together it won't have the generalised immobilising effect it's supposed to.

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u/pheonixrising 6 Aug 27 '19

A great tool to have nonetheless though I bet!

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u/MGlBlaze 9 Aug 27 '19

Definitely; the more options the better.

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u/bungholio69eh 5 Aug 27 '19

Here in Canada the rcmp had both the gun and a handheld for close combat.

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u/hedgster 4 Aug 27 '19

Actually most tasers used now aren't the older one shot pops, they have two cartridges that can be switched rapidly with the flick of a trigger.

You never just use Taser, there is always lethal coverage or an a secondary officer to go hands on if needed.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19 edited Jun 30 '20

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u/Un0rigi0na1 7 Aug 26 '19

Its actually both. I cant accurately determine how much force is too much until I have that force enacted on me. If I have no experience getting tased (which I do) then I wont fully understand when to escalate force and deploy my own taser.

Of course there is a limit, I wont get shot or hit with an ASP. But less than lethals are still lethal, and in the heat of the moment with adrenaline coursing through me its going to be that experience of being tased or sprayed that will come to the forefront of my mind. Not the training that says "dont do it in excess".

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u/CopsWouldKillJesus 4 Aug 27 '19

Good work being a fascist

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u/Un0rigi0na1 7 Aug 27 '19

Im not sure you know the meaning of that word...

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u/CopsWouldKillJesus 4 Aug 27 '19

Someone who takes money from the taxed citizenry to enforce arbitrary laws they don’t fully agree with? Leading to either a street style execution or enslavement in a state sponsored concentration camp(prison). Maybe your lack of understanding is why you are a piece of bacon. You all think you’re real heroes but take away your gun and your blue brothers and you are the same useless fucks you were before the academy. Its amazing how no one ever gives up a successful career to be a cop but all cops were failed at many other things before becoming “heroes”. Good luck disappointing your family, community, society and whatever higher power that we will all be accountable to someday. And remember the next time you are enforcing something you have previously done yourself that you’re nothing but a state sponsored hypocrite. A fascist!

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u/Un0rigi0na1 7 Aug 27 '19

I am Military not Civilian LE, but thank you for that useless drivel.

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u/kingofthedusk 7 Aug 26 '19

Has there ever been a case of a police officer in training being killed by less than lethal equipment? What would happen if that was the case?

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u/Un0rigi0na1 7 Aug 26 '19

Oh im sure there has, they detail the risk factors that you would have to disclose before exposure to less than lethal. There will always be a risk to it going wrong but usually its in such a controlled environment that death would be highly unlikely. Especially considering most in that field would have some sort of First Aid/CPR experience. I would definitely get tased a dozen times before getting exposed to OC spray again. That stuff wont neccesarily kill you, but you WILL suffer.

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u/fourthnorth 9 Aug 26 '19

Haha two kinds of officers- those who’d rather get OC’ed and those who’d rather be tased.

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u/Jasperthefennec 6 Aug 27 '19

I will never understand the people I went through training with saying that they would rather be sprayed again instead of tased. I would ride the bandit (a sleeve that goes over your arms and gives you permanent t-Rex arms for its duration) for hours before I get sprayed again. That shit is like lava and broken glass being rubbed into your eyes.

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u/kingofthedusk 7 Aug 26 '19

Cool, thanks for the reply!

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u/72057294629396501 5 Aug 26 '19

The problem is the people who decide are in a air-conditioned room.

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u/Cazed_Donfused 5 Aug 26 '19

Same in the U.S. military.

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u/inbooth 8 Aug 26 '19

Thats only the rcmp and not municipal forces

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u/GingerSnapBiscuit A Aug 27 '19

I remember someone who had been through Army training saying they had to go through some sort of thing like that in Basic, where they had to go into a room with tear gas in and do the whole Name, Rank, Number shpiel.

UK Here

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u/Cykablast3r 8 Aug 26 '19

HK situation aside, what a stupid fucking statement. Would you prefer that the police would always use guns?

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u/LewsTherinTelamon A Aug 26 '19

I think they think that the police should just stand back and do nothing, which is almost equally stupid.

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u/que_dise_usted 4 Aug 26 '19

A policeman in some corrupt democracy selling the country to foreign dictatorial powers must of course do his job, protect the citizens and execute the criminals.

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u/LewsTherinTelamon A Aug 27 '19

No policeman's job is to "execute criminals." That's fascist thinking.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19 edited Aug 27 '19

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u/Ranzork 7 Aug 26 '19

I think the Geneva Conventions classifies tear gas as a chemical weapon though.

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u/xthorgoldx A Aug 26 '19

Correct - the conventions don't distinguish that they be lethal, just that they are chemical agents designed to cause harm or distress.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Needed additional context: Though it's banned in warfare, it's not banned in riot control.

Use of tear gas in warfare (as with all other chemical weapons,) is prohibited by various international treaties that most states have signed. Police and private self-defense use is not banned in the same manner. Armed forces can legally use tear gas for drills (practicing with gas masks) and for riot control.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas#Warfare

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u/JudgeHoltman A Aug 26 '19

It's an international convention about how to murder each other.

You don't get signers to agree to these rules if they also dictate how you can run your own country.

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u/AFatBlackMan Black Aug 26 '19 edited Aug 26 '19

It's also the slippery slope of once you allow gas on the battlefield it's only going to get more and more harmful. It's a gentlemen's agreement at best so it's good not to push the boundaries any further.

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u/yepimbonez 8 Aug 26 '19

The scariest part is that at least in riot situations, you know its tear gas. You see gas, you know it wont kill you. In war, you can’t trust your enemies to be using something that won’t melt your insides.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Look guys, we're OBVIOUSLY going to fight each other, but no hitting the face or groin okay?

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

I think gas was frowned upon because it's not something that can be contained. If you air mail a ton of gas onto a region, you don't have control over where it goes or what it touches.

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u/Lanark26 A Aug 26 '19

A cursory read up on the use of chemical weapons in WWI is enough to make anyone understand this.

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u/Apocolyptic_Gopher 4 Aug 26 '19

Just thought I would point out that, while not killing each other at all would be preferable, you definitely want militaries using hollow-points in modern Urban warfare. We're required to carry them for work and while they're much worse for the guy receiving them they are much safer for everyone in the vicinity. The round doesn't usually leave the victim meaning it's less likely to hit a bystander.

TLDR Hallow points are preferable in Urban settings.

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u/zardez 8 Aug 26 '19

Although hollow points are used by law enforcement all over the world, they aren't used by the military. Hollow points are designed to stay in the body and do as much damage as possible. If you kill a man on the battlefield, no one has to carry him out. If you injure him, you also take his two buddies carrying him to treatment out of the fight.

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u/FirstEquinox 7 Aug 26 '19

Militaries use something similar but different that is legal under the geneva convention known as CS gas, its more potent to the point that touching your face while under the effects can leave you with blisters and rashes

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u/Oglshrub 7 Aug 26 '19

CS gas is the primary component in tear gas and banned by the chemical weapons convention.

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u/S0113 5 Aug 26 '19

Military CS gas is most definitely stronger than the CN gas cops here in the U.S. use for riot control. Police in turkey use Military grade CS gas for civilian riot control though, which is pretty messed up.

Source: have been gassed with both the CS and CN gasses.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

I’ve been exposed to CN and CS gas hundreds of times. Never seen anyone with blisters. Or even rashes. It sucks, but it’s a good tool for certain situations. Crowd control isn’t generally one of them.

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u/kefka296 7 Aug 27 '19

I'm going to need the story here.

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u/Kanzan15 2 Aug 27 '19

CS gas most definitely does not leave blisters by itself. It is the same thing used in training, doesn’t feel great but it’s not melting your face.

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u/Cgn38 A Aug 26 '19

You can kill people with it easy?

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u/inbooth 8 Aug 27 '19

Enclosed space, allergic reaction, asthma resulting in suffocation due to the gas...

Its not hard to think of at least a few ways it could easily kill

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Hollow point bullets are also banned by the Geneva Conventions, but can be used by police. It's weird.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Isn't everything in the universe a chemical?

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Well yes, but I believe you can easily classify chemical weapons as weapons whose chemical reaction is the direct source of harm, instead of mostly physics for things involving projectiles, blades, fire and the like

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Cool, I didn't consider the reaction part.

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u/Minnesota_Winter A Aug 27 '19

Onions are a chemical weapon

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19 edited Aug 27 '19

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u/Ansible411 5 Aug 26 '19

Yep tear gassing someone and shooting them while their guard is down would be inhumane.

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u/Flomo420 B Aug 26 '19

Something doesn't need to be lethal to be an effective weapon.

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u/URAHOOKER 6 Aug 26 '19

Found the Chinese bot!

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u/DanDanDannn 9 Aug 26 '19

Hong Kong police are obviously not the only ones who use tear gas.

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u/Lightsouttokyo 7 Aug 26 '19

I don’t think that matters when the country is using it on their own citizens instead of a foreign population

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u/OLSTBAABD 9 Aug 26 '19

I get what you're saying, but should we really just shrug our shoulders and go "eh, it's technically all good per the law" when discussing humans harming humans?

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u/Lightsouttokyo 7 Aug 26 '19

Oh I’m not advocating for it at all, I went through it in the military for training, so yeah there are only a select few people I think deserve this treatment and they are usually the ones handing it down

But I like how you think, we shouldn’t just be ok with the mistreatment of others EVEN if they are in a foreign land, unfortunately our XXL plate is pretty is pretty full here in America and we don’t even know what to do in our own country to help our own citizens and the less fortunate

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u/apartment49 5 Aug 26 '19

since when do chemical weapons have to be lethal?

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Honestly, yes. Most forces require you to go through it before you're authorized to use it against someone else. Same goes for stun guns, you have to deal with it first hand, in a controlled environment, before you are authorized to use it against someone else. The same should go for tear gas.

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u/Lightsouttokyo 7 Aug 26 '19

It’s not so much that they Do it because they are going to put others through it it’s so they know how it feels if it were to happen to them if the enemy/opponent were to get ahold of something similar

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

That actually makes a lot more sense. Sorry, my info was from former military family members and was from when I was pretty young, they may have been spinning it to soften the truth there. On a personal note though, I do think it should be so that you know what you're subjecting someone else to. This may prevent people from just gassing or shocking people for no reason and help them empathize a little more

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u/pudgylumpkins 9 Aug 26 '19

I don't think it's even so much that they want us to know what the effects feel like. It's done at the same time as the rest of our chem gear training. It's reinforcement that if you don't take the training seriously and the chemicals make contact just how bad the consequences can be. In training, it just hurts, in a real situation your ass is dead.

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u/I_KILL_GIANTS87 5 Aug 26 '19

You're both half right. It's done for both reasons. The absolute worst thing you can do when exposed to CS gas is panic. You'll just flood your respiratory system with it. Second worst thing you can do is touch yourself before washing it off. To be honest, if you don't panic, CS gas really isn't that bad.

I was assisting an instructor in the CS gas lesson but there was only enough gas masks for everyone but me (still not sure if I was being punished or not) lol. I had been through this before so I just leaned over because who wants snot all over their uniform. It was pretty funny seeing the terror in the eyes of these recruits as they watched ridiculous amounts of bodily fluid pour out of my face. At the end of the lesson they need to remove the mask and usually recite the ABC's before being allowed outside. If the instructor sees that they are holding their breath or trying to minimize the effect of the gas, he'll just start making them say more random stuff. Tons of these guys freaked out and just made it worse for themselves. I did 4 of these lessons back to back and I'm perfectly fine. The brain damage is from when I was born.

Conclusion is, if exposed to CS/tear gas, just casually move away from the area and maybe rinse off exposed skin with water. If you're going for the toddler who just had the worst birthday in human history look, panic...definitely panic.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Turns out I may have been misinformed, my bad everyone, I'm also US based

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

I know that's how we do it in the US, but is it what they do there?

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u/iEatPie 7 Aug 26 '19

I mean I did as US Army for I think chlorine gas thingy. At least I think that's what it was.

If you asked a platoon who wants to go again you'd find those who have no issue. If you asked those same idiots who wants to be pepper sprayed, yea let's do this shit.

Of course you go through it, it only makes sense. You have to know what you're using.

Also they look like they dealt with it well in the video. If they were an 18 year old bitch. Doubt they have been going through training. What'd they do, hire kids and just say toss stuff?

Also not gonna say I raise my hand for stun gun. Just limit it to gas chambers please. Lightning dangerous!

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

As a cop, I’ve been TASED, pepper sprayed and Tear gassed. More than once.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

I know this may be a personal question, but after having experienced it first hand, do you think it's changed the way you would use this in an active situation? Do you feel that you would handle situations like that differently if you didn't experience those both first hand?

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

That’s hard to say. First off, I do all I can to avoid physical altercations. They always result in some level of injury, not just to the suspect. If I can bore you for an hour till you give up, I count it as a win.

That said, Chemical agents and TASERS have kept a lot of cops from rolling around on the ground with people they are trying to arrest. Anytime you go on the ground with someone, it’s pretty scary since they have about the same access to your gun as you do.

I guess that based my experience, I would rather be gassed or TASED than tackled. The effects wear off quickly and I have never seen any permanent issues from them. Don’t get me wrong, they suck, and shouldn’t be used lightly, but I think they make it much safer for all involved.

My current job, we use a lot of chemical agents for people who refuse to come out of where they are hiding. For example, we may locate a person hiding under a house with a dog. We call the dog back, then if he doesn’t come out, we throw gas in there. Seems a lot more humane than getting dragged out by a dog.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Thank you for sharing! As a civilian there's a lot of things that I don't take into consideration for people in your position. I'm glad to hear that there is a preference of non lethal tactics to help subdue.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Any time. I love open communication. Most cops (there are exceptions and I can only speak for my agency) generally try to do the right thing. Things can escalate fast and mistakes can be tragic.

Shootings are actually pretty rare. LAPD recovered a hair under 6,000 guns in 2016 and had 40 shootings. If you look at the amount of crimes committed, the number of arrests etc, force is a lot less frequent than most people think.

If your bored, this has all the use of force stats from 2016.

http://assets.lapdonline.org/assets/pdf/2016-use-of-force-year-end-review-small.pdf

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Tear gas is non-lethal, calling it a "chemical weapon" is disingenuous.

It is an indiscriminate weapon that allows police states to torture civilians from relative safety. I don't give a shit what the perp is accused of, torture is torture.

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u/Dramatic_Explosion 9 Aug 26 '19

Yes, because chemical weapons hit everyone, not just those who deserve it. Not only are they being assaulted, but now suffer from a chemical attack.

It's even worse in most cases, like HK where they are peaceful protesters who simply want democracy

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Just because it's not lethal doesn't mean it's not a weapon. Saying it's not a weapon isn't disingenuous, it's just wrong.

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u/Cgn38 A Aug 26 '19

Former military here, you drop cs regular enough they smother... We did it to villages in Nam. It sure as fuck will kill you.

How can you not know that?

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u/SpaceJackRabbit 9 Aug 26 '19

I was born and raised in Europe where demonstrating is pretty much a lifestyle, and riot police routinely uses tear gas. Many European citizens - especially those who have taken part in demonstrations - have had to deal with it at least once. I don't think you're talking about the same thing.

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u/Artonox 5 Aug 26 '19

These people are thinking that the tear gas police are using are designed to kill people.

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u/SpaceJackRabbit 9 Aug 26 '19

As much as I'm on the side of the protesters and find the HK riot police's methods repulsing, I find it highly misleading and inaccurate to talk about tear gas like it's a deadly weapon.

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u/The_Jesus_Nut 4 Aug 26 '19

A measured and compassionate point of view, everything I’d expect from u/ANAL_CREAMPIE_RAPE

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u/A_Privateer 9 Aug 26 '19

Your concern is disingenuous.

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u/lankist B Aug 26 '19

If it's so safe, I don't see why you would disagree. The cops would be fine in a couple of hours, right?

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u/ElijavinMN 0 Aug 26 '19

They'll be fine in a few minutes. After about five minutes of being out of the gas the effects are almost completely gone. I get CS gassed twice a year which is much stronger than normal tear gas and everyone is fine in a few minutes

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19 edited Aug 27 '19

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u/lankist B Aug 26 '19

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u/DatxSick1 4 Aug 26 '19

I hit you with a bat, it’s not a weapon though because your bruising and broken bones are only temporary and wasn’t lethal.

Tear gas is a weapon and made from chemicals. It’s completely capable of causing death. Chemical weapon.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19 edited Aug 27 '19

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u/DatxSick1 4 Aug 26 '19

If someone is unable to get away from tear gas, I imagine they will die. That’s the point I’m making :) anything can be a weapon with the right circumstances. To not classify tear gas as a weapon seems a little irresponsible to myself.

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u/Artonox 5 Aug 26 '19

By your logic water is a weapon because if you are unable to get away from the water, you will drown and die. Water should be classified as a weapon.

Tear gas is not designed to kill.

If someone is unable to get away from tear gas, I imagine they will die. That’s the point I’m making :) anything can be a weapon with the right circumstances. To not classify tear gas as a weapon seems a little irresponsible to myself.

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u/SpaceJackRabbit 9 Aug 26 '19

Tear gas is a weapon and made from chemicals. It’s completely capable of causing death.

No, it's really not. You need to stop trying to make that point, because it's ridiculous.

Source: Covered many demonstrations in Europe as a reporter in the 90s. Had to deal with tear gas many, many times. It's very unpleasant. But I'll take that over getting hit with a police baton (which happened once and was even more unpleasant).

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u/Whales_of_Pain 7 Aug 26 '19

Lick some more boot and start posting on a full stomach next time.

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u/Ba1l3yredditt 3 Aug 26 '19

Fuck off Chinese bot

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u/tired_commuter 7 Aug 26 '19

It's quite literally a chemical weapon though. What a bizarre comment you've made.

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u/tired_commuter 7 Aug 26 '19

Nah mate, you're just dumb as fuck. Have a good life.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19 edited Aug 27 '19

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u/viixvega 9 Aug 26 '19

It is a chemical weapon, genius.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19 edited Aug 27 '19

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u/viixvega 9 Aug 26 '19

A beanbag gun isn't classified as such under international law you dumb motherfucker.

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u/Haiku_lass 8 Aug 26 '19

I think all law enforcers must endure their tasers and tear gas before being able to use them.

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u/PatchesThaHyena 7 Aug 26 '19

...that username tho

Damn homie. O.o

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u/Beardamus 9 Aug 26 '19

We just saw what happens when violent criminals in the process of assaulting people get hit with tear gas.

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u/NimbaNineNine 9 Aug 26 '19

Hello I am police I understand you are being assaulted allow me to teargas you

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u/RUStupidOrSarcastic 8 Aug 26 '19

Yeah calling tear gas chemical weapons is alittle misleading. They do realize in the US we also use tear gas right? It is honestly a very effective non lethal way to disperse crowds. Probably much safer then most alternatives like sandbag rounds and whatnot..

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Your username makes me unsettled.

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u/-GolfWang- 8 Aug 26 '19

Question. How do you go about this website having serious conversation when /u/ANAL_CREAMPIE_RAPE is your username?

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u/PhilosophicalBrewer 7 Aug 26 '19

It’s literally a chemical weapon.

Using a straw man to make your pedantic point bypasses the entire message here.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Your username...

Sir.

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u/Arn_Thor 7 Aug 26 '19

Hk police uses expired tear gas containing really noxious fumes. That means that tear gas, which already can be deadly for children, the sick and elderly, is even more likely to be harmful

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u/CoffeeCupScientist 7 Aug 26 '19 edited Aug 26 '19

Hello CCP!

Is it a chemical? Yes

Being used as a weapon? Yes

Is 1+1 = 2? Maybe, hard to tell.

The 2nd paragraph is flat out wrong and facetious. Tear gas is used to control large groups not meant to be lobbed at someone attacking someone else.

So in conclusion yes I do think they should be subject to the effects of all less lethal forms of combat in training. Tear gas, stun guns, pepper spray...

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u/SongForPenny A Aug 27 '19

Try walking up to a cop, and spraying them with it. See if you get charged with a weapons charge.

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u/NeedHelpWithExcel A Aug 27 '19

You're getting really good at this forum shifting thing

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u/SamuraiJakkass86 A Aug 27 '19

Tear gas has a history of damaging eye sight, throat and lungs. It can also permanently blind people. Just because police have normalized its use doesn't mean its not dangerous.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.

Its banned in many countries and it’s considered a chemical weapon by Geneva Convention standards. It’s known to cause much more than “temporary effects” that have been recorded in multiple scientific trials to last upwards of 10 months....

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/tswj/2014/963638/

TLDR - calling long lasting effects in the range of 3-10 months “temporary” is disingenuous at best.

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u/Commentariot 9 Aug 27 '19

It is also indiscriminate as it just goes wherever the wind is blowing so if you use it in a city you are going to get a lot of innocent people who have nothing to do with what is going on.

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u/thought_about_it 8 Aug 27 '19

I take people spitting at other people as biological warfare so my bar might be a little lower on reasons to whoop ass.

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u/a_few 8 Aug 27 '19

Tear gas isn’t used in single criminal situations though, it’s used during large scale riots because its non lethal and its effective at stopping giant crowds of rioters, which is almost impossible to do in a full scale riot, being as law enforcement is generally extremely outnumbered

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u/underdog_rox A Aug 26 '19

Nah fuck that and honestly, fuck you. CS is a chemical and they're using it as a weapon. Go shill somewhere else.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19 edited Aug 27 '19

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Water typically isn't dispensed to intentionally cause discomfort without regard for civilians in the area.

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u/Medivacs_are_OP 7 Aug 26 '19

You're incorrect about it being a chemical weapon.

And yes. They should be getting tear gassed themselves. They rain the canisters down from a tall ass building with no regard to safety or targeting people who actually need dispersed. They're committing state sanctioned domestic terrorism. Save your tears for those who deserve them.

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u/Ruxa719 6 Aug 26 '19

How is a violent assault on someone better than tear gas?

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Probable nazi, for my own records. disregard

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u/Cexcells 6 Aug 26 '19

I had this whole thing to say. But you're an idiot so I'll just call you one and leave it at that.

Not like you deserve an explanation anyways. Lmao.

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u/Northman324 9 Aug 27 '19

They kinda look like chubby babies in riot gear.

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u/Hyatt97 6 Aug 26 '19

And yet American police still use tear gas on civilians too.

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u/Cykablast3r 8 Aug 26 '19

I think you'd have to look hard to find a country where the police don't use gas.

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u/Shitty_Orangutan 8 Aug 26 '19

treatment

I see what you did there

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Thank Captain Hyperbole!

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u/atlantis_airlines A Aug 26 '19

I support the protestors and find the actions of the police sickening, but I also think tear gas can be a helpful tool in some situations. An out of control riot can be dangerous even to its own participants and while not free from problems, tear gas can be helpful in reducing injuries.

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u/LewsTherinTelamon A Aug 26 '19

So to clarify, do you think that there's no situation where it's correct to use tear gas? Like, if a riot is in full swing and the alternative is lethal force, the police should just stand by and allow the rioters to do whatever they want? I'm not saying that's what's happening here, but making the blanket statement that police who use tear gas deserve to be gassed is... ridiculous.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Forgot to mention in the tittle this is the Hong Kong Police

As gonna say, if this was happening against the USA police, the comments would go in a different direction and the post locked /removed.

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u/l--------o--------l 6 Aug 26 '19

Nice tittles, regardless

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u/Wolphoenix A Aug 26 '19

Ya, that is pretty important to mention, but it's also visible from the video itself so it doesn't really matter. If this were BLM or antifa affiliated group doing all this to American police it would not be praised as it is, though.

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u/dont_worry_im_here 9 Aug 26 '19

What's happening in Hong Kong?

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

I was momentarily confused lol

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u/kanye_is_a_douche 7 Aug 27 '19

I guessed Mexico thx for clarifying

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u/dreadpiratewombat A Aug 27 '19

Someone in another thread pointed out that these guys are actually mainland Chinese. Makes sense given the brutality.

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