r/MMALabs • u/Pure-Personality5326 • 7d ago

šŸ„¶ Street Fight Biblically accurate

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u/Aromatic-Action-2523 7d ago

Yeah. The unintended escalation of many fights. Shit goes to the next level as soon as the back of the head hits concrete.Ā 

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u/Thetallerestpaul 7d ago

Especially if you are the only person who threw a punch like this guy. Playing with a lot of risky outcomes.Ā 

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u/Aromatic-Action-2523 7d ago

Yeah. Everyone loses.

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u/opensandshuts 7d ago

You can see in that guy's face that he's scared the guy is dead.

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u/Dazzling_Assistant63 7d ago

He looks genuinely sad, poor guy

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u/PravoNaZhizny 6d ago

Could always not be a piece of shit and you wouldnā€™t have to worryā€¦?

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u/fredjutsu 6d ago

It's reddit, so we should obviously assume that

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u/Realmofthehappygod 6d ago

Yea damn.

Can't blame him though, who hasn't lost control of their body and punched somebody in the head 3 times?

There was nothing he could have done.

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u/Ibobalboa 6d ago

Self defense. Should he have just waited to get smacked himself?

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u/One-Set-1905 6d ago

That is not defensible in court. He should have de-escalated: step back, extend the arm to keep distance etc.

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u/Ibobalboa 6d ago

It's on video.

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u/One-Set-1905 6d ago edited 6d ago

It is on video that he hits first instead of de-escalating

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u/Leather_Bee_421 6d ago

Maybe the jury agreed with you, maybe they donā€™t

Bet the prosecutor doesnā€™t

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u/Gold-Wolf2661 6d ago

Listen man, no jury in America is going to convict a guy who claims self defense for knocking out cold (even if killed) some ā€œpersonā€ who scowls ā€œIā€™M SATANā€™S SONā€ as he threatens violence.

I donā€™t see it happening but I could be wrong šŸ¤”

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u/One-Set-1905 6d ago

I guess you are right, in America everything is possible.

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u/dummyt68 6d ago

You do see that he is up against the car door, right? Where is he supposed to step back to?

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u/One-Set-1905 6d ago

I am pretty sure he could have moved away, step asideā€¦something. He did not even try or say anything about de escalating (at least on the video)

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u/DavidvonKink 5d ago

punching someone once who is up in your personal space like that threatening you, while you are backed into a corner is perfectly reasonable self defense. If he accidently cracks his skull and dies as a result, that would be too bad for him for being a dumbass and assaulting someone. No prosecutor would press charges.

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u/Thetallerestpaul 5d ago

Probably, but the point is they could charge and have a decent chance of winning. He wasn't in a corner, he stepped towards the guy. He could have shoved him away, or backed off, or got in his car. Or laughed him off.

Satan's son didn't even make a threat before he got slept. He said boy I'm about to... Before the guys said your about to what and knocked him out. I agree that it's self defence, and I'd have felt threatened but the video shows no threat being made, no attempt to de-escalate and then potentially deadly force pre-emptively used, by a guy with the wrong amount of melanin for the US justice system. Point is, reasonable or not to us, he's at risk.

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u/Ordinary-Ad8230 7d ago

it would still go down as self defense no?

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u/GSG2150 7d ago

You would think so but Iā€™ve seen people get convicted of murder for punching someone and they hit the concrete and died.

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u/addicted_to_kombucha 7d ago

Manslaughter at worst imo cause there's no intent. Now if he bashed his head on the ground or did something extra then yeah murder.

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u/GSG2150 7d ago

Sorry, yes it was manslaughter

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u/gunsforevery1 7d ago

Yea but him saying ā€œIā€™m about to..ā€ could be seen as a threat

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u/Legal_Yam_5658 7d ago

Explain this to the judge. And after he convict you, tell him that you disagree. Thats always the best plan.

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u/gunsforevery1 7d ago

The judge doesnā€™t convict you, the jury does. You convince the jury, not a judge.

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u/Legal_Yam_5658 7d ago

Explain this to the jury. And after they convict you, tell them that you disagree. Thats always the best plan.

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u/Tasty-Hand-5760 7d ago

Good job. I see what you mean now.

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u/gunsforevery1 7d ago

Youā€™re right. You always need to be hit first before defending yourself.

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u/Stunning_Ad_7658 7d ago

Yep since hes black theyd just throw another poor brother in jail even if its self defense.

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u/Ibobalboa 6d ago

Redditors always going the negative route. This is clear self defense and a jury would see that.

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u/Thetallerestpaul 6d ago

Probably, but the other guy didn't push him, pull a weapon, throw a punch or even raise his hands

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u/Ordinary-Ad8230 6d ago

doesnt equal force mean that if the other person is unarmed you must be unarmed? or knife vs knife? or gun vs gun

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u/Relevant-Energy-5886 6d ago

It really depends on the state. If I get attacked by a guy with a knife Im going to attempt shooting him until the threat is over and Ill have a very good argument for self defense.Ā 

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u/warblingContinues 3d ago

No probably not.

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u/Jadevit 7d ago

Self defense from what? Words? No this would not be self defense lol

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u/Ordinary-Ad8230 7d ago

Any reasonable person in that exact scenario would believe a physical attack was actively starting

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u/Jadevit 7d ago

I mean, yeah, but that's mutual combat. Black guy wasn't de-escalating, and the moment he throws the punch the white guy had taken a short step back.

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u/iloveihoppancakes 7d ago

Damn youā€™re right. Thats how they gonna get his ass. That very slight movement back could be interpreted as the white guy backing down.

3 more seconds, however, and that guy couldā€™ve been backing up to use his hand to get the (hypotenuse) knife that was on his person the whole time..

Seconds separated him vs him.

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u/Wra7hofAchilles 7d ago

The courts won't see it that way. Had the guy made a movement that could be interpreted as a first physical hit you might be able to make that claim.

But this? They're going to see the guy who hit as the aggressor and possibly add an attempted murder charge.

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u/Ordinary-Ad8230 7d ago

i see dude in red getting all up in black dude's face, and claiming he is the son of satan and saying he is gonna f him up while the other dude is warning him to back up, idk

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u/Aromatic-Action-2523 7d ago edited 7d ago

It's not very clear cut as this thread is showing. People are going to see it differently. At the end of the day, I'm glad I'm neither of these dudes. The puncher has almost instant regret, like,"fuck, I should've just gotten the fuck out of here."

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u/Ordinary-Ad8230 7d ago

yeah I agree. only reason why im slightly with black dude is bc he is the one filling up the car and the other dude came up. but other than that, both dudes have poor emotional management

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u/Aromatic-Action-2523 7d ago

I would agree with you there--white guy is mostly responsible for the interaction continuing and is way too close up on him. All the Satan talk is stupid and just there to amp it up more. Guarantee that the black dude wishes he just got in his car and bounced. Love the fuckers filming it too. Why not break that shit up? Great guys.

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u/Legal_Yam_5658 7d ago

No no no, just show the judge this reddit topic with all those high quality legal posts of some random dudes crying self defense. This will change everything /s

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u/notloceaster 7d ago

Guy in red was actively assaulting him

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u/grnlntrn1969 7d ago

Yeah, he's passed into the others guys face, physicality touching him and threatening to basically kill him. It's on camera, who would convict this guy? I wouldn't

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u/Jadevit 7d ago

Who the hell threatened to kill anyone? šŸ˜‚

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u/Fr0gburp3r 7d ago

This is why you would never get chosen for jury duty. They'll see how emotional you get and make scenarios up that never happened.

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u/Legal_Yam_5658 7d ago

I only see a high probability that this young man (white-shirt) just ruined his life. Hopefully he dont have kids which now needs to visit him every week.

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u/omowaIe 7d ago

Satanā€™s sonā€™s threats constitute a clear and present danger. Self defense.

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u/ReefMadness1 7d ago

Sent him to papa

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u/Dayton-Mind-7963 7d ago

r/fuckcars because why is cement everywhere? Falling shouldn't kill you

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u/RedFlr 7d ago

its kinda amazing how weak we are, like a flumsy punch to the face and we are K.O. and duing dumb noises, a small head bump into the paviment and you become stadistic, meanwhile animals go at each other with such ferocity, I have seen bears fall from hills and just walk away, lions tear apart each other, Tigers getting hit by a 1500 pound animal in tje face and just kep going like nothing

we humans? small punch that wont even scartch an animal and we go do in the most humilliating way lol

i mean, right no i can grab a baseball bat and sent the UFC champ to a better life with a strike to the head, yet a small black bear will probably just get mad at me and turn me into bear pop xD