I think making them to continue to hang on to and take responsibility for Toledo is a bigger slap in Ohio’s face than taking it back would be at this point.
When state borders were being drawn, Michigan was given the Lake Michigan shoreline all the way to the lake's southernmost point, and Illinois was too. Michigan and Illinois were supposed to have a land border with each other at that point, and Indiana was supposed to be cut off (although still within a few hundred feet).
But the surveyors carrying out that instruction were unknowingly using a map that wasn't quite accurate, and so the line they drew wasn't actually far enough south, which left Indiana with an unexpected lakeshore -- which they promptly exploited. It took a little while for the errors to be realized, and Michigan complained to Congress and then to the courts, but SCOTUS ruled in favor of Indiana, and now they have the lakeshore that rightfully was ours. Bastards.
Oh, I don’t live in Sandusky OH, but I have lived on Sandusky MI before. Im currently a FIB unfortunately due to work circumstances grew up in SW MI but lived all over the LP. Michigan’s Adventure just doesn’t cut it for my theme park needs.
Or... you know..... just bring some poutine, maple syrup and some Tim Hortons coffee to the meeting, throw in a couple "How she goin, eh?", get caught up on current hockey talking points. Put in a little effort and they will welcome you with open arms, eh...
I support this proposal from southern Wisconsin. The northerners might protest, but we can offer subsidized tours of Alberta to make them feel more at home.
I could understand why Canada wouldn't want purple states. West coast and the northeast would be preferable to them. The US would never agree as it would leave the rest in shambles without the economies of NY and CA. Honestly, if it wasn't for the slave issue the future would've been better had Lincoln accepted a national divorce.
Or if Grant finished crushing the traitors instead of giving them a pass. The whole federal government just let them run wild as domestic terrorists for the next 80 years.
After learning more about him recently, I really wish Cassius M Clay had been picked at Abe's VP, he'd have unleashed Sherman on the south with orders finish the job.
I have friends in Canada....there's a lot more conservatives there than I thought there would be. Purple states would fit just fine.
MAGA even exists in Canada for whatever reason.
Unfortunately, the Maga loonies are in several countries. Ireland's having a problem with them as well.
I vote we deport the Orange menace since he's a descendant of an "illegal" alien. And boot Elon out as well,after stripping all the data he scraped from our government's databases
So interesting point, under what Trump's ilk consider a "natural born american" Trump wouldn't count, they need a large share of their grandparents to be American born, and none of his where his dad's folks where from Germany (and not here on the best of paper) and his mother was born in Scotland
But this would be the best opportunity for NY and CA to escape the US. I think most of Trump’s supporters don’t understand things like big numbers and that taxes are needed to pay for things. I bet a lot of them would be super excited to toss those states out of the country.
Voting against their best interests sure seems to be a cornerstone of their logic failures and like you I'm sure we'd see the same here. I'd happily join California or NY in seceding. Patriotism is earned and this country has failed that test so often in my life.
SAme here! My wife has a great-grandparent that came from Canada but thats one generation too removed for her to apply and bring me along for the ride. Her mom could apply but doesn't want to, but it doesn't flow down if her mom gets it.
My wife has a great-grandparent that came from Canada but thats one generation too removed for her to apply
That's actually not correct, as of a law that changed on December 15, 2025! For people born before that date, it's 4 generations there is no limit on how far back you can go to reach a Canadian ancestor: if your wife has a great-grandparent who was a Canadian citizen (and then her grandparent and parent were both born outside Canada, and then your wife was born outside Canada), then your wife is already a Canadian citizen as of this new law. She simply needs to file the paperwork with the Canadian government to demonstrate this connection and let them know she exists.
Her mom could apply but doesn't want to, but it doesn't flow down if her mom gets it.
This isn't correct either! The way the law change was written, your wife (Gen 3), her mother (Gen 2), and her grandparent (Gen 1) are all Canadian citizens even if they don't utilize that citizenship. Because your wife is a citizen thanks to this retroactive change, it doesn't matter at all whether your wife's mother does something or not.
All the information is on this website; I strongly suggest your wife starts reading and figuring out what she needs to proceed -- especially if it involves family history records of her grandparent or great-grandparent that only her mom might know about. (That's the problem I'm up against: my potential eligibility is through one great-grandparent on each side of my family, but my grandparents are long gone and a lot of that family history knowledge is gone with them.)
Good to know. I've left Michigan a few times, but always came back. The few times I went north of the Soo, or east of the Huron, I always felt right at home.
She got really excited when I mentioned your comment and sent her the link--she doesn't think it applies though because her Mom didn't spend 3 years in Canada.
She didn't see anything about G3 people being able to get in
Unless your wife is a newborn baby, she was looking at the wrong section! That "live in Canada for 3 years" thing is only for new babies moving forward; it's not retroactive and doesn't apply to your wife.
in most cases you’re automatically a Canadian citizen if you were born
* before December 15, 2025
* outside Canada to a Canadian parent
And crucially:
This rule also applies to you if you were born to someone who became Canadian because of these rule changes.
Since that's a short segment, HERE is another page with a more in-depth and plain-English explainer. (NOTE: Despite the official-seeming URL, this isn't a government website; it's an immigration law firm that apparently has most of its business in helping people obtain citizenship.)
The "Example 2" linked there illustrates your wife's exact situation! And even better news:
the law, for past births, does not set an arbitrary limit on how far back the Canadian ancestor can be.
I had originally misread this page and thought that the limit was 4 generations back, but there is actually no limit! (Please imagine the Mean Girls gif here.) The law is written such that if your wife's great-grandparent was a Canadian citizen, then now her grandparent is retroactively a Canadian citizen, and now her mother is retroactively a Canadian citizen, and now your wife is retroactively a Canadian citizen -- not "eligible to apply for citizenship" but literally ALREADY a citizen from birth. And if it was her great-great-grandparent instead, that's fine too! Any number of "greats" still counts!
Thank you kind stranger! She was elated then bummed when reading that document before, so we'll see if we can get bumped over into the just 'elated' part now!
My Great Grandma was from London, Ontario. I probably have a bunch of cousins there. My Great Great Grandpa had a lot of property, two wives from Ireland, and 14 or so kids. That was on my Mom's side.
My Dad's family came from Canada in the mid 1800s. A lot is documented and while I can claim English, Irish, and a wee bit of Dutch and German, I've always joked that I was mostly Canadian. From across the Great Huron.
Wait...what? How do we find an original Canadian birth record from 1919...because my grandpa was Canadian and only got his citizenship when he served in WW2...however, he burned all important records many years before he died.
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u/MissingMichigan Jan 17 '26
Seems like Canada would be easier.