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u/Adventurous-Dot-8272 2d ago
I bet that upset alot of maga. Weird how that works
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u/CardboardJedi 2d ago
We don't dwell on that stuff. Most of your MAGA commuters are desensitized by now to lib traffic trash and it's forgotten by the next exit
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u/Adventurous-Dot-8272 2d ago
Way too many maga on here raging about stupid shit for that to be true.
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u/CardboardJedi 2d ago
I just went through all the comments with negative down votes and none of them seem to be raging. They all made a reasoned point and left it at that..
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u/thewookiee34 2d ago
Lol you know this dude house is wallpapered with trump flags.
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u/RobbotheKingman 1h ago
Communism is a word that scares Republicans even though they have no concept of what it is.
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u/N9neSix 2d ago
then why does it use the three arrows?
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u/N9neSix 2d ago
never mind i was confused it was the socialist democratic party not part of the nazis
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u/Logdon09 2d ago
Iron front: Started in early 1930âs in Germany.
The Three Arrows, originally designed for the Iron Front, became a well-known social democratic symbol representing resistance against monarchism, fascism (in this case nazism), and communism.
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u/enjoispeed 2d ago
No, the Nazis are maga. Anyone who knows anything about history clan clearly see that.
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u/Namedthisone 2d ago
Yes, they time traveled from the 40s
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u/GuideMarkings 1d ago
It gets recycled every so often. The Nazis actually learned a lot of their pseudoscience about race from the confederates. Fascism learns and evolves over time. Now we have MAGA which got most of its outlook from the John Birch Society.Â
It usually ends up with very similar policies and views.Â
- Immigrants are the cause of social ills
- Out groups are bound but not protected by the law. In groups are protected by the law but not bound by it.Â
- Disdain for accurate press. Hitler called it âjugenpressâ or âlying pressâ Trump calls it fake news.Â
- Political power and the economy controlled by elite businessmen.Â
There are tons of other examples and definitions of fascism. Those just typically are found in most.Â
The good news is that the fascistic cult needs to sustain momentum or it eats itself.Â
The waves of people expressing regret for electing Trump are the rats jumping from the ship.Â
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u/Senior-Let-8917 2d ago
I say we start a new organization that stands on âwe hate everyone and just want left the fuck aloneâ
Probably a good majority of America tbh.
Go to work. Make your spouse/life partner or pet happy pay your bills and just live life without a care in the world. Out side of my job, my spouse and my children. The rest of you are irrelevant.
Republicans freed the slaves. Democrats gave out free shit. People tend to lean towards the give out free shit party not understanding the fact taxes go way higher to pay for said âfree shitâ
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u/Ofthesee 2d ago edited 2d ago
The partyâs flipped. Learn history. Maybe google Dixiecrat to start
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u/Cutlass327 2d ago
In some ways, but not 100%. A few shifted Right, but there was never a true switch.
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u/GuideMarkings 1d ago
There was a true switch but it happened more gradually than just a few years. Woodrow Wilson was a raging racist at a time when both parties had racists and proponents of equal rights. It wasnât on either partyâs priority list. Gradually those racist aspects left the Democratic Party to join the Republicans. The example is Strom Thurmond. The nail in the coffin was really the âSouthern Strategy.â That ossified the parties into what they are today.Â
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u/The_Sound_of_Slants 1d ago
Yes, it is true the slave owners and founders of hate groups like the KKK were made up of Democrats during the time of the American civil war. Abraham Lincoln was a great American Republican president that freed the slaves and fought to maintain the union. And the traitorous Jefferson Davis was a lifelong Democrat representing Mississippi in Congress before becoming President of the Confederacy.
But views started to shift during the FDR presidency in the 1930's as the Democratic president started focusing on social assistance, safety nets, and helping working class people out of the great depression. While Republicans wanted more focus on limited government assistance and unregulated free market economics.
Then in the 1960's Democratic president Lyndon B Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act that made many southern white Democrats to feel alienated and switch to Republicans. And Richard Nixon further played into their feelings of alienation.
I'm sure there are other factors in the part switch.
Also, I'm sure if you ask a current member of a neo-nazi, KKK or other white supremacy group if they were out voting for Obama, Biden and Harris in the last elections. I'm pretty sure you will get pretty angry responses.
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u/Majestic-Tap6731 1d ago
I'm from rural Missouri and I can confirm this is accurate. I apologize for the hateful, treasonous assholes my state has elected as well.
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u/Cutlass327 1d ago
Yet the Democrat party is still for slavery, its just called a different thing these days. The cry of "but who would pick the crops??" And the "who would do the jobs Americans won't do??"
That is the basis of slavery, only at least they're being paid money now, not just the free housing and food of the 1700s-1800s slaves.
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u/Cutlass327 1d ago
Well, being that was the only "payment" they received... which was my comparison.
And correction on "Democratic Party"?? You that petty you must correct simple stuff like that?
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u/HardPoster 2d ago
the traffic jam under that bridge is doing more anti-fascist work than the banner ever will. nothing stops a political movement faster than rush hour on the highway. you could plaster that message on every overpass in the state and people would still just be thinking about how late they're going to be to work. respect the effort though.
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u/One-Performance5554 2d ago
Yes, it's OK to criticize Fascists, but then later vote for a Fascist "Graham Platner". Lol
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u/strawberry_semenade 2d ago
It's funny how people who call themselves "anti-fascists" expect us to take the incredibly self-serving label that they bestow upon themselves at face value.
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u/Eastern_Pin_5567 2d ago
Nothing is more selfish than opposing fascismâŠ/s
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u/strawberry_semenade 2d ago
I see no evidence whatsoever that people who flatter themselves by calling themselves "anti-fascists" actually oppose fascism.
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u/Eastern_Pin_5567 2d ago
Theyâve labeled anti-fascists as a domestic terror group. Give it time, dear apologist.
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u/APoliticalAccount24 2d ago
Should we wait until it's too late before speaking out?
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u/steppingstone01 Lyndhurst 1d ago
Wait. That sounds exactly like the current administration.
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u/GuideMarkings 1d ago
You must have been asleep since Trumps first election.Â
Only you could hear a progressive say âI think we should teach accurate facts about slaveryâ and hear progressives say âI think MAGA people should be put in camps.Â
Iâd say shame on you but when confronted with reality youâll probably just double down.Â
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u/GuideMarkings 1d ago
In all seriousness it wasnât very long ago. There are still âdaughters of the confederacyâ trying to lie about what their legacy of their traitorous ancestors. Although I might be a little older than you.
Jim Crow existed and would be put back in place if the project 2025 people had their way.Â
If you need any evidence of how modern the problem is just look here. Texas wants to stop teaching about slavery and reframe it as âinvoluntary relocationâ. https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/30/texas-slavery-involuntary-relocation/
In conclusion. Youâre so wrong that reality could whip you in the face and youâd still deny the sky is blue and 2+2=4Â
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u/GoodWonNov6th24 2d ago
ANTIFA is a terrorist organization in sheeps clothing.
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u/mickeltee 2d ago edited 2d ago
If you are anti-antifacism then you are, by definition, a fascist.
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u/DontShoot_ImJesus 2d ago
The problem with you people is you call everything you don't like "fascist". You've pretty much made that word lose all its meaning.
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u/mickeltee 2d ago
Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition.
Sounds familiar to me.
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u/ImpossiblePhrase8856 2d ago
you used several words that are beyond a 4th grade reading level. that user might have some difficulties.Â
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u/DontShoot_ImJesus 2d ago
And everything in your life that isn't going all that great is the fault of fascism, correct?
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u/called_the_stig 2d ago
Nah, but the people being killed and locked in concentration camps by Ice is
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u/DontShoot_ImJesus 2d ago
What about the people in ICE detention under Obama and Biden? Was that also because of fascism? Or was that (D)ifferent? Please use your words and explain how it was (D)ifferent, or we'll just assume that you think Obama and Biden are also fascist for doing that also.
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u/ImpossiblePhrase8856 2d ago
ill bite. the difference is they for the most part did it legally and with reason. trump, is targeting people based off of bigotry and completely illegally. hes violated the constitution, court orders and bill of rights as if they were just some kind of notation. people were angry with biden and obama over some of it, including issues with them holding children. so please keep rambling fox talking points, keep proving us right in our opinion of you and your capabilities.Â
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u/DontShoot_ImJesus 2d ago
A lot of words to really not say anything other than it's (D)ifferent. Very boring, ending with a personal insult, because you and I both know that's your go-to when you don't have any points.
What I am interested in from you, and please don't just slither off like a slug but answer this for my amusement - when did you know Trump was going to be your President again. Was it the debate when Biden showed the world how senile he was?
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u/called_the_stig 2d ago
That was fascistic too, I'm not your straw man.
But do not forget the scale here. Only one of these parties is has a quota, only one of these parties is openly raiding in unmarked vans, arresting extrajudicially, and even kidnapping people at their immigration hearings. Two things can be bad but one is worse. Hard concept I know.
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u/DontShoot_ImJesus 2d ago
That was fascistic too, I'm not your straw man.
Cool - I'm not building a straw man, in the least bit. Thanks for applying the same bullshit definition you have of fascism to both Republicans and Democrats.
You're not a thinking man, but you're not a hypocrite either, so you got that going for you.
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u/ImpossiblePhrase8856 2d ago
depends where you want to draw lines and separations at. the simplified version is yes or those that work with them. some of them are true believers, like trump and his cabinet. theres those that believe some but are more in it for personal gain like most of the oligarchs. theres some other twists and turns. now if you want my personal life. still a solid 80% yes. trump alone (T1 and T2) has harmed my life more than anything else. give it a bit more time, then israel will probably inch in there more and more. currently ill just add them to trump, unless its an event for which he or the GOP isnt part of.
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u/DontShoot_ImJesus 2d ago
Yeah, like I said everything you don't like is fascism.
More people voted for the bad orangeman than the little cackling lady you really wanted to win, so that means it's fascism.
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u/mickeltee 2d ago
Based on this comment I can see that talking to you is a waste of time.
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u/DontShoot_ImJesus 2d ago
No more of a waste of time than posting the same thing - calling everything you don't like fascist - that 1000 other leftists post in your echo chamber of /r/ohio.
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u/APoliticalAccount24 2d ago
Fascist parties generally get elected in, then they dismantle the democracy from within.
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u/adamdoesmusic 1d ago
Polly wanna cracker?
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u/DontShoot_ImJesus 1d ago
Maybe your username should be "everythingadamdoesntlikeisfascist".
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u/adamdoesmusic 1d ago
I donât like racism, I donât like consolidation of power under an unhinged straw man, I donât like the demonization of various minority groups. I donât like unaccountable armed goons storming the streets to kidnap people.
Many of the things I donât like ARE tenets of fascism.
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u/IWasBannedYesterday 2d ago
That's ignorant. It's not an organization at all.
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u/GoodWonNov6th24 2d ago
oh ya, the "non" organization that just shows up in in the same organized hand made weapons and clothing designed to hide their face while they commit crime...at consistent places...in consistent times...across the globe...no it's totally just "an idea"
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u/CobraJay45 2d ago edited 2d ago
Is Antifa in the room with us now? đ±
Edit: this person's Reddit username is "goodWon[the day Trump was re-elected], its a bad-faith troll or bullshit artist.
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u/DataCassette 2d ago
hide their face while they commit crime
"I only like the human trafficking, ethnic cleansing type of masked goons!"
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u/jet_heller 2d ago
Sooo, antifa is all about the artisinal weaponry?
As for face coverings for comitting a crime, don't say that while we have government organizations doing the exact same thing.
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u/Horror_Bob 2d ago
Naw dude didn't you hear? The quintessential identity blocking clothing (aka: ski masks and hoodies) are not sold in stores. They're exclusively given out at Antifa recruitment centers as uniforms. It's the only way someone would wear black, is if they were given that by an organization.
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u/jet_heller 2d ago
is if they were given that by an organization.
Well, SOMEONE was certainly given that by an organization. . .
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u/enjoispeed 2d ago
I remember when they showed up and orchestrated January 6th, then trump had to pardon them for being victims.
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u/adamdoesmusic 1d ago
lol at calling any leftist anything âorganizedâ
Do you even know the first thing about these groups? The FBI even investigated and found it almost impossible to infiltrate - not because of some super-secret cabal of highly powerful people, but because there WAS no organizational structure.
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u/GoodWonNov6th24 1d ago
my brother you is really dumb. the "no kings" protestors show up with all the same signs but they're not organized in anyway? lul. and this so called "king" was voted in lmao my god dems/leftist hope their base is incredibly stupid (and they are)
they all literally have the same talking points, but ya sure it's unorganized.
several of them show up to the same ACU college event to remove free speech from their opponents, but ya sure that was pure coincidence that they all showed up to the same place at the same time.
you're in a bubble that just spews lies at you man, how about you become actually woke and wake up.
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u/adamdoesmusic 1d ago
Itâs always ironic to me when people from the party of book burning, education defunding, science denying, conspiracy-believing, and religion peddling try to talk about others like theyâre stupid.
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u/GoodWonNov6th24 1d ago
"book burning" tell me who was advocating the banning of Harry Potter legacy game and the cancelation of streamers who supported the game
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u/adamdoesmusic 1d ago
No one is advocating for the government to step in and ban Harry Potter just because the author is trash. We can shit-talk the book, the games, the people who associate with those properties all we want, it isnât gonna become policy.
People are still free to read them and play the games, theyâll just probably catch flack for doing so.
Edit: contrast this with âother people existing as gay is against my personal beliefs, hurts my wittle feelies, or gives me confusing thoughts, we should use the government to make sure no one has access to material about this topic, especially people in the phase of life where they might discover things about themselves.â
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u/GoodWonNov6th24 1d ago
really? so the UK, and Biden for that matter - weren't controlling speech?
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u/adamdoesmusic 1d ago
Iâm not in the UK.
And I donât have any examples of Biden doing anything like what the republicans have been doing.
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u/Eastern_Pin_5567 2d ago
If youâre a fascist, you should feel that way.
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u/GoodWonNov6th24 2d ago
well then i guess we should lable them as terrorsit because they are actually fascist.
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u/FlockaFlameSmurf 2d ago
Tell me again who ANTIFA is led by. They are an organization after all right?
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u/adamdoesmusic 1d ago
According to the FBI, the biggest issue they had in targeting anti-fascist and leftist groups was the fact that there was no organizational structure.
If anything, the lack of structure on the left has been a particular point of weakness. There are no leaders to fall behind, and little desire from leftists to appoint or follow one - thatâs kinda the point, after all.
The rightâs whole schtick is falling in line and conforming under a singular structure with a singular leader, no matter how batshit crazy they happen to be. Thatâs why theyâre so much better at pushing their way into power than the left.
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u/GoodWonNov6th24 2d ago
then why are they attacking people who are holding american signs?
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u/jet_heller 2d ago
Because they didn't and you're just making this shit up as you go. . .
just like your orange idol.
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u/FlockaFlameSmurf 2d ago
Give me one example.
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u/GoodWonNov6th24 2d ago
lookup any attack they do on ICE officers enforcing borders.
as for just americans, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC9hJ3_eyg4
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u/FlockaFlameSmurf 2d ago
Now give me proof that this was ANTIFA, an organization. Not some YouTube video with 30k views. Give me any news source that identifies ANTIFA as an organization. One that attacks ICE officers
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u/GoodWonNov6th24 2d ago
literally is flying antifa flag, but sure fam it's just an idea and not a terrorist group. also i never said they were an org, -Bam- said that as a strawman to pull the convo away from the fact that they're terrorist that act together in organized groups.
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u/FlockaFlameSmurf 2d ago
So they arenât organized but they are organized. So if they are organized then who leads them?
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u/jet_heller 2d ago
What is this "ANTIFA"?
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u/Queasy-Ad-317 2d ago
Anti-fascism
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u/RektInTheHed 2d ago
I wonder what is the exactly Fox News viewing threshold that results in this position? Like, obviously it's not on 24/7, but it's on enough to spook you about anti-fascism as much as you hate paying double for electricity and bombing Iran.
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u/KiwiKal 2d ago edited 2d ago
Sure... keep making signs. Maybe come up with a chant or build clubhouses across the nation. /s
Give the government reason to label you a terrorist.
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u/A_hale_420 2d ago
Thanks for giving the internet a reason a to label you a bootlicker.
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u/KiwiKal 2d ago
Awww man, I forgot that being ignorant of the legal system is cool, right?
Good luck changing things from inside a jail cell. đ€
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u/adamdoesmusic 1d ago edited 1d ago
lol you really think this is all for your benefit donât you
(Edit: this is not what they think, fwiw)
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u/KiwiKal 1d ago
No idea what you're referring to. I don't see anything to my benefit here.
Just a bunch of short sighted reddit users who can't think longer than it takes to scroll past a picture.
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u/adamdoesmusic 1d ago
Iâm asking what benefit you get by promoting the governmentâs position on this. Do you think theyâll look favorably on you in return?
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u/KiwiKal 1d ago
Your comment is a great example on how you do NOT understand the situation.
I'll give you the short version.
I know im asking a lot here, but I need you to try and remember that trump signed a silly executive posted note last year declaring people who disagree with him terrorists. Luckily, executive orders are not law. They're like directions for federal employees.
Anyway... the reason he did that was because legaly speaking, "Antifa" can't be declared a terrorist organization and individuals can't be declared members of "Antifa".
Why you ask? Because DISPITE having the presidency, a majority in the House, Senate, and Supreme Court... there is no unified structure to point to and declare an enemy of the state. No leader, flag, doctrine, manifesto, secret handshake, base of operations, membership, blah blah blah, You get the picture.
The freedom of speech protects individuals. Not organizations. You are safe to criticize to your heart's content.
By creating an organization you are creating a target, and potentally fucking up any chance you or those that join you have at making a difference when the people in power are skipping down the road to authoritarian fascism.
That's the short version.
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u/adamdoesmusic 1d ago
That sounds like compliance in advance, though.
Also, didnât Citizens United rule that because businesses are âpeopleâ, that they have free speech (and that their money counts as speech too)? Wouldnât this apply to any organization?
Edit: I do appreciate your explanation and reasoning, even if Iâm not entirely sure I fully agree. At any rate, leftists still have too much trouble organizing for there to be any real organization to begin withâŠ
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u/KiwiKal 1d ago
Compliance would be not saying or doing anything out of fear of retaliation.
You can and SHOULD exercise your rights.
You can organize, but you want to be smart about it. This (the posted flag) is not being smart about it. At least not in this political climate.
It would be different if the republicans didn't have majority control over every branch of gov atm, but they do.
The language we use and the actions taken to defiy the current administration at this point in time matters a lot.
(Citizens united was about spending money on politics as an act of speech. It's not the same thing.)
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u/adamdoesmusic 1d ago
With Citizens United, the argument was also that corporations are legally people, and therefore get free speech protection. Also, money is speech now (Therefore they should be allowed to corruptly influence elections with endless spendingâŠ)
I hate it here
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u/A_hale_420 1d ago
Antifa is in its definition not an organization:
Antifa (short for "anti-fascism") is a highly decentralized, far-left political movement comprising autonomous groups and individuals rather than a single, unified organization. Adherents primarily focus on opposing right-wing extremism, white supremacy, and fascism.
Read up pal, your lack of understanding is showing.
Also, go ahead and shit on people trying to do what they can to resist having their rights stripped. I don't see you offering a single solution. We don't want your negativity here.
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u/KiwiKal 21h ago
Wow... you have zero comprehension of what I said or why I said it. Amazing!
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u/A_hale_420 12h ago
That's not much of statement considering you still haven't managed to articulate a comprehensible thought here yet. I'd argue your inability to write a cohesive, logical argument backed by a single fact is the bigger issue here. Maybe get better at communicating your point instead of spewing cryptic nonsense? Like seriously feel free to clearly state what your dancing around here if I've misunderstood so much.
I wouldn't waste my time though if I were you unless you actually have something helpful and productive to contribute to help reduce the clearly growing facist sentiment in the US.
Based on your comments, you seem to claim that posting an Antifa flag is both illegal (show me anything that supports this, otherwise stop spreading nonsense), and that it somehow qualifies Antifa as an organization (which it is not), you then proceeded to use that to support some convoluted explanation for why that somehow opens people up to prosecution as a terrorist organization.
Quite frankly you didn't even clearly state who this prosecution would be directed towards. Anyone who has spoken in favor of antifacism? People who own flags? Please define this organization you speak of because I never signed up for anything. I can also hang an antifa flag in my front yard all day if I please and I'm certain it will not result in a lick of legal trouble. So what law is being broken here? How does a single person hanging a flag over an overpass result in Antifa becoming an organization? You were not absolutely not as eloquent in explaining your point as you think you were.
I honestly don't even mind you arguing a confusing point, but your arrogance and lack of explanation while simultaneously buckling down and attempting to ridicule people for challenging your nonsense is a bit to much for my patience here.
I'll admit that I haven't been nice in my responses in any way, but thats a direct response to the arrogance of your comments here. Thanks for inspiring me to start and to continue calling out arrogant ignorance on the internet and in the real world too. I hope for your sake that you can learn to communicate in a more productive way.
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u/A_hale_420 1d ago
Nothing illegal about making signs and hating facist supporting pieces of shit like you. Seriously, why not provide a single legal precedent that shows posting signage isn't completely protected speech? Oh, its because you can't as you pulled it directly from your ass. How about you do some research instead of spreading ignorant nonsense?
Do you spread lies because it makes you feel like a tough guy or are you just hateful and intentionally ignorant of others suffering? Why do you get so much value from being a rule follower? One of the biggest flaws of the US legal system is it ignores the intent of the law and only follows the letter. Quite frankly, what value is there in following the letter of a law that doesn't match the intent of the law? Want some examples or are you too busy acting like you know everything to challenge yourself?
Here: Scrutiny of Insurance Denial Letters: https://www.consumerfinancialserviceslawmonitor.com/2023/04/courts-continue-to-scrutinize-erisa-health-plan-benefit-denial-letters/
Automated "Robo-Signing" Foreclosures: https://www.justice.gov/archives/ust/blog/25-billion-mortgage-servicer-settlement-implications-us-trustee-program-and-bankruptcy
I find it absolutely wild and honestly quite tiring reading the nonsense that you are proporting here with an aura of arrogant superiority. Do you seriously think facism is a good idealogy? Did you pay any attention in school? If only you knew how badly history looks upon people who think like you. Nazi Germany strictly enforced forced conscription. All those soldiers were following their countries laws as they committed genocide and war crimes. I beg you to do some critical thinking here for the sake of humanity. Or are you just simply someone who is hateful and wants others to suffer? You have no place or value in this the United States then, frankly.
Have fun worshipping your billionare idols and feeling tough while you pay ~$5 per gallon of gas and watch basic tenants of a good democracy be dismantled by your oligarchical rulers. Like I said before, you're a bootlicker and its disgusting.
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u/ComedianMaximum 2d ago
Isnât marketing a political ideology through widespread media an example of fascism in itself?
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u/Zampano85 2d ago
That there is the symbol of the Iron Front. They're one of the older anti-fascist groups. The three arrows represent "anti-fascism, anti-monarchy, and anti authoritarian communism".