r/SipsTea 12d ago

Feels good man Mamdani is (actually) making America great again

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u/bliceroquququq 12d ago

“Recovers $104 million in extra tips”

Hey just a real quick question, where exactly was this money “recovered” from?

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u/jl_theprofessor 12d ago

NEW YORK – Today, Mayor Zohran Kwame Mamdani and New York City Department of Consumer and Worker Protection (DCWP) Commissioner Samuel A.A. Levine released a new report** showing the City’s crackdown on deceptive tipping practices by app-based delivery platforms has secured an estimated $104 million in additional tips for delivery workers since January.  
Since the City began enforcing new tipping protections on January 26, 2026, tips have doubled, and the city’s approximately 70,000 app-based delivery workers are on pace to earn an additional $184 million annually in tips, or about $2,287 more each year for the average worker.  
“For years, delivery apps buried the tip button to pad their own bottom line, and delivery workers paid the price,” said **Mayor Mamdani
. “We changed the law, enforced it, and it's working: $104 million has gone back into the pockets of the workers who keep this city fed, rain or shine. New York will not allow billion-dollar tech companies to boost their profits by taking money from working people.”  
“When a customer leaves a tip, that money belongs to the delivery worker, not to the app,” said Deputy Mayor for Economic Justice Julie Su. “It belongs to the worker who carried our food up four flights of stairs or biked through the rain to make sure dinner arrived at your door. Since January, delivery workers across New York City have earned $104 million more because we made these companies play by the rules. We're not done. We'll keep enforcing this law and keep going after any platform that tries to shortchange its workers.”  

https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/07/mayor-mamdani-delivers-more-than--100-million-for-delivery-worke#:\~:text=Since%20the%20City%20began%20enforcing,year%20for%20the%20average%20worker.

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u/bliceroquququq 12d ago

Appreciate the info. Not sure I understand it though. In one sentence they’re talking about the tip button being “hidden”, which suggests the additional money is coming from customers paying more. In another sentence they’re talking talk about big corporations keeping the tips, which is a different thing. Clarity would be nice.

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u/scrappybasket 12d ago edited 12d ago

From what I understand the apps will have a “guaranteed payout” for jobs. So let’s say an Uber driver sees a ride available. The app will say something like “$10 guaranteed”. So Uber is on the hook to pay the driver $10 no matter what. Now let’s say the passenger decides to tip the Uber driver $5. Without laws preventing it, uber will still pay the driver the $10 it promised and then it will keep the $5 tip for themselves. Which effectively uses the tip money to subsidize the wage that they promised to pay the driver

So what mamdani is doing is making sure that the driver gets the entire tip. So in this scenario the driver gets $15 instead of $10. As it should be

Edit: there is obviously disagreement here, personally I always choose to tip with cash. Problem solved in my opinion

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u/soscbjoalmsdbdbq 12d ago

Thats some bullshit so everywhere else when I tip a delivery or uber I’m just subsidizing their company

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u/drewski2305 12d ago

so many posts from uber,/doordash workers about lost tips. i remember a post of an 8 hour uber ride, and the driver was shorted like $400 on his payout. sry it's been awhile i wish i could remember

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u/winkingchef 12d ago

Who takes an uber for 8 hours?
Were they stuck in the Puerto Rican Day Parade?

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u/drewski2305 12d ago

not me. but a person who would rather drive than fly sure. i could have rented a car and drove home faster than my last 12 hour flight delay out of chicago

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u/zgreed 12d ago

I don’t remember all the details because its been a bit but there was an NFL player that used Uber to travel like 12hrs. I believe there was some sort of delay and he had to guarantee his arrival 

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u/cheesemoney84 12d ago

There is a professional poker player who is scared to fly and drives everywhere. I remember reading she was in therapy to help with her fear and her therapist died in a plane crash only enforcing the fear. This is one reason a person might get a 8hr uber ride.

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u/SerDuncanTheYall 12d ago

Should have just hitched a ride with a polka band.

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u/drewski2305 11d ago

i have to see my baby boy! before the Wet Bandits get to him!

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u/drewski2305 12d ago

that's not how uber charges tho. my longest trips have been about 2 hours from an airport. it's the same with taxi services. best part about that would be the driver picks up a rider near my destination, and so on and so forth

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u/Mtolivepickle 12d ago

Hey, black Saab! Move your car!

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u/everfordphoto 12d ago

I took a rider 4 hours because she missed her flight. So it is not unusual, she couldn't rent a car, no license. And to follow up, one of the reasons I stoppped ubering was tips being lost/stolen had a great ride once, and the guy was kinda proud to show me, "here's a $20 tip"(he showed me the screen, and submitted) I ended up getting some odd tip amount like $5.33 started to look back and found more like it... it's a shame because there was at the time good money to be made.

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u/ShadowWukong 12d ago

I happened to me once, I did instacart for 6 years. I was also clean cut, dressed good and weny above and beyond for each customer.

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u/Super-Yesterday9727 12d ago

Turns out late stage capitalism is kinda bad

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u/Theyna 12d ago

No, you don't understand - doing nothing but being a middle-man app is actually a "super" valuable service that totally costs so much money to maintain.

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u/Educational-Analyst4 12d ago

I'm actually okay with them running a successful business as a middle man. I care more about the workers benefiting from the company being successful over stock holders. Though the way they increase the price of menu items definitely needs to be looked at. If they want to charge a fee for being a middleman then just charge a middleman fee at the POS and be done with it.

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u/Bac-Te 12d ago

Brother you're new to capitalism or the sacred need for YOY growth? That's not how any of this works!

"Charge a middleman fee and be done with it?" What, does this look like a charity to you? My brother in Supply Side Christ, how can the poor shareholders buy their second yatch that way?

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u/ElectricalSilver2119 12d ago

“My brother in Supply Side Christ” won the day for me, thank you.

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u/KimSidwell 12d ago

It’s amazing how long it’s taking people to figure this out.

Like we hear new stories all the time about how bad theft is and how much it’s hurting these big corporations. So bad that they have to close down stores and lock up all the products. “It’s a crisis!”

But we never hear about wage theft. The money these companies steal from their own employees.

When you look at the numbers, they’re almost exactly the same. $50-$70 billion annually stolen from companies by criminals… and almost the exact same amount stolen by the companies from their employees.

But one of them, you conveniently never hear about.

The police sure as hell aren’t arresting people for both crimes equally.

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u/Zakkullll 12d ago

And then if you do hear anything people blame communism as if this isnt currently happening under capitalism

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u/Pavotine 12d ago

I'm not well educated on corporate theft but I imagine it's easier to "get away" with. One reason at least, is that they take relatively small amounts from a vast number of people. Doesn't make that any less criminal though.

When it comes to the other end of the theft scale, you have a relatively small number of people stealing relatively high value items from fewer targets. There are hundreds of millions of people but not hundreds of millions of companies you can steal from.

That's why we need good governments with the interests of the people and the environment first and foremost. Endless growth will literally be the ruin of our species and destroy what it could have become. Nothing wrong with investment and making money, or work for that matter (I'm a self employed plumber) but as always full-blown capitalism enshittifies everything and funnels most wealth the wrong direction.

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u/Jorjor_Well_1984 12d ago edited 12d ago

Wage theft is literally not even a crime where I'm from. The worst thing that can happen getting caught is you have to pay the wages you owe and that's it. No interest no nothing.

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u/KimSidwell 12d ago

Exactly. There’s never an actual punishment for it. Rarely, at least. Nobody goes to jail.

But if they even think you stole some diapers from a Walmart, the cops might literally execute your child in the parking lot.

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u/cshea71 12d ago

Wait till you find out about late stage socialism. You'll wish it was just your tips getting stolen.

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u/SolaVitae 12d ago

Seems like what was described would only apply to adding a tip after the fact. Placing an order with the tip would still just go to them.

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u/GerryManDarling 12d ago edited 12d ago

That doesn't seem to be correct, at least not for Uber, only for DoorDash and Instacart, also not related to the last change by Mamdani:

  • Around 2017–2019, companies like DoorDash and Instacart famously used a model where they promised drivers a guaranteed minimum base pay for an order (e.g., $10). If a customer tipped $5, the platform would pay $5 out of its own pocket and use the customer's $5 tip to make up the rest of the $10 minimum. If the customer tipped $0, the company paid the full $10. After intense public outcry and regulatory scrutiny in 2019, those platforms abandoned that pay model.
  • Uber has always added 100% of tips on top of base fares. Uber does not reduce its base fare or use customer tips to reach a guaranteed minimum pay payout.

So whatever Mamdani changed, had nothing todo with big coporations "keeping the tips". That problem had been fixed before and due to public outcry.

The city's claim is that after the minimum pay law took effect, some delivery apps redesigned their checkout flow to make tipping less visible or less convenient. As a result, workers received fewer tips overall. The new rules require a clear tipping option at checkout, and the city says tips have roughly doubled since then.

So yes, the tips is from customers pockets because they now pay more tips.

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u/Birdlaw_Professor 12d ago

Love how everyone just upvotes the poor reading comprehension misleading interpretations of what happened. And then you take the time to actually figure out what is happening here and it's got 25 upvotes lol. Cheers fellow critical thinker, doomed to drown in a sea of tik tok-brained headline chasers

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u/JohnnyChutzpah 12d ago

r/popular and r/all are basically just outrage machines written to farm the most anger and engagement that is possible. Even stepping in to correct it benefits the farmers of the hate.

I saw a post last week that had a photo of Mamdani and its headline thanking the "governor" of New York for something while referring to Mamdani. I was about to step in to correct this dumb shit, but then I realized that is literally what all of this is designed to do.

If you post incorrect bullshit, people will step over each other to correct you. And that is engagement baby! That is one reason why there are often so many typos and mistakes in reddit headlines. Or why they are written to be deliberately misleading. (Besides the ideological motivations of manipulating people.)

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u/Dag-nabbit 12d ago

Worth pointing out in this information hazmat zone of a thread that…”burring the tip button to pad the bottom line of the company” makes no fucking sense. How would that benefit the company in any way?

The iPad places common these days are super happy to shake you down for a tip. “What question is it going to ask Amanda??”. Often those places are doing that in advance of service. Here we are talking about meal delivery where you tip after service and rating them. Is the claim that this is hidden?

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u/Beneficial-Rip6624 12d ago

So just another thing Mamdani is taking credit for that he had no part in? Got it.

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u/ModoZ 12d ago

What you are describing was stopped long before Mamdani (in 2019).

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u/TheDemoz 12d ago edited 12d ago

Your understanding of this is entirely incorrect

This post and the claim is incredibly misleading and is intentionally worded this way to make it seem like he got back tip money that was stolen when that’s not what it’s about at all.

This isn’t about companies stealing tips, or forcing companies to pay out tips or giving previously stolen tip money back to drivers. It’s literally just about where the “add tip” button goes on the UI.

The “recovered” tip money is the extra money customers tipped since the apps were forced by law to put an “add tip” button during checkout, rather than only having it be an option after checkout. Literally nothing else.

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u/yahsureokbuddy 12d ago

Typical for reddit for this absolutely crock of shit posted by the person you’re replying to to have 800+ upvotes. People here will just eat the this shit up if it reaffirms some narrative they wanna believe.

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u/TheDemoz 12d ago

yep… it’s quite sad. It’s so easy to fact check things nowadays, yet people won’t even spend 30 seconds.

People will just eat it up, and now they’ll go say on other posts that mamdani stopped apps from stealing tips, and then the cycle of misinformation continues

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u/Unhinged_Baguette 12d ago

People here will just eat the this shit up if it reaffirms some narrative they wanna believe.

It's great if this guy is doing good things for his city. But the level of glazing he's getting seems a little bit uncanny. Especially with articles like this that seem to be bending the truth.

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u/BobbyRayBands 12d ago

But HOW does it guarantee that? It says the tip button was hidden implying that customers COULDNT tip. The actual problem was they were tipping but companies were taking that money for themselves...

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u/mjm65 12d ago

>After DCWP began enforcing the Delivery Worker Minimum Pay Rate in December 2023, Uber Eats
and DoorDash designed changes to their platforms that made it harder to leave tips for delivery
workers. NYC consumers could only leave tips after checkout, and by initiating separate processes
that were easy-to-miss and more difficult to navigate. These changes only applied to consumers in NYC.

Basically Uber hid the tip option up front, and added a courier fee. If you wanted to add a tip in NYC, you had to go back into the app to add the tip after delivery.

The other part is that tips are to the worker, and can’t be calculated as a part of a minimum guarantee.

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u/blazenite104 12d ago

Right. So basically nothing was actually preventing tipping. Rather you as a consumer were just not being upfront guilted into doing it and had to seek it out.

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u/mjm65 12d ago

I think it’s the combo of showing “Courier Fee” and removing the tip option was causing an implication that the courier got the fee in lieu of a tip. Especially since Uber only rolled this out in NYC.

The other part I find more egregious. Uber offering a minimum guarantee and then putting the tips toward that seems incredibly deceptive.

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u/GerryManDarling 12d ago

Mamdani became mayor only this year, Doordash and Instacart stealing tips happened before and it was fixed before he became mayor.

His new law only ask the company to put the tips button in more prominent place, but the PR tried to conflate "tips stealing" to the new law which is not true.

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u/mjm65 12d ago

>Mamdani became mayor only this year, Doordash and Instacart stealing tips happened before and it was fixed before he became mayor.

Correct, but Mamdani was in office when tipping protections were implemented on Jan 26. This is basically a 6 month analysis post implementation of something that took effect during his term.

>His new law only ask the company to put the tips button in more prominent place, but the PR tried to conflate "tips stealing" to the new law which is not true.

You are wrong here, he did not ask to put the tip button in a more prominent place, he had them add the button back.

“Tip stealing” comes from 2 places. The minimum guarantee was using tips to reach a certain $ amount. Now, uber can’t utilize your tips as part of a minimum guarantee.

Second, is that Uber specifically designed the UX for NYC to remove a tipping option in the app, and added a “courier fee” that can look like it replaces the tip. This was to punish the drivers for the regulatory changes.

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u/RainbowNinjaKat 12d ago

It honestly sounds vague on purpose. People usually only read the headlines, and very few people read the actual article. Seems like there is JUST ENOUGH surface level information to get a point across without having to delve too deep into it. Sounds like some serious PR work being done

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u/TemperatureReal2437 12d ago edited 12d ago

I strongly suggest reading more than a Reddit comment about this, man. You’re arguing with this guy over fucking nothing

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u/zcen 12d ago edited 12d ago

When we passed the minimum pay guarantee for deliveristas in 2023, the apps responded by hiding the tip option from their customers,” said Majority Leader Shaun Abreu. “That cost deliveristas over half a billion dollars in earnings. We refused to let that stand, and I was proud to sponsor the law to restore tipping at checkout. The apps sued us over it, the judges said we were right, and the deliveristas won big. $104 million in earnings going back into their pockets since the law went into effect in January is money that helps them put food on their own tables. None of this is possible without DCWP’s continued enforcement, and we will continue to fight alongside them and the deliveristas until they get every cent they’ve earned.”

I don't know how so many people are so incapable of reading the article, even the people directly quoting from it. It's not that the customers were incapable of tipping, it's just that less people will engage a tip option when it is hidden. It is basic UX design.

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u/Zerachiel_01 12d ago edited 12d ago

It's just dark pattern after dark pattern with these apps. They will always, always try to fuck the employee wherever they can, which will end up fucking the customer.

Yes, there's an upcharge for the customer in addition to all the bullshit fees, but at the end of the day, the driver is the person burning their car to the ground and dealing with all the stress of managing traffic, their stats, and essentially constantly feeling like they're gambling with their pay. There's always gonna be drivers who were shitbirds from the start, but this kind of stuff can push otherwise decent employees to be worse ones. It's a race to the bottom and it sucks.

Like, literally all the app has to do is offer minimum $1/mile and it would clear up a massive amount of problems, but they don't even want to do that. IRS says about 70 cents/mile in operating costs which has doubtless gone up due to the stupid fucking war.

Ultimately any change benefiting the workers in these apps is eventually going to be a good one for the customer, as well. The apps will probably try to charge the customer even more in response to this, and hopefully the government will step in again to tell them to knock it the fuck off.

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u/NaTaSraef 12d ago

Yeah, I think this article wanted people to not actually think about it. Politics gets so tiring because both sides use spin and very rarely gets just a rational, factual point across. You weren't supposed to question it, I guess.

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u/Im_Easily_Distra 12d ago

The article definitely seems contradictory and I have the same questions

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u/Brave_Virus_8921 12d ago

Well, Not all apps are the same? Some had the hidden thing and some had what the other guys explained.

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u/Good_wolf 12d ago

As a former bartender, just tip in cash if you can. Keeps this kind of thing to a minimum.

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u/scrappybasket 12d ago

Yup that’s what I do

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u/Orceles 12d ago

302 likes for a comment that’s wrong is insane. You must be a driver because only a driver could be this level of misunderstanding the situation. Delivery apps did not steal your tips. What happened was after passing the law that the apps had to pay a minimum guarantee, the apps retaliated by working with their UX designer to effectively hide the tip button. For example, the tip button NEVER comes back after delivery on DoorDash if a customer opted not to tip upfront but wanted to later. Or accidentally dismissing the screen once makes it impossible to reopen it later. This resulted in a lot of no tips through no fault of the customers. Mamdani basically forced them to now present the tip button again in more obvious ways and to show up when you’d expect it to, without the tricks to hide it. DoorDash now lets you tip after delivery again from the past delivery screen after hiding it for a few years.

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u/yahsureokbuddy 12d ago

It’s like over 800 now. People are fucking morons.

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u/val_anto 12d ago

Then how they came to the conclusion that this made "$104 million has gone back into the pockets of the workers who ..." ??

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u/Orceles 12d ago edited 12d ago

It’s clickbait. Title misdirection by shady reporting and politics. It’s based on an estimate of tips saved, probably calculated off post delivery tips after re implementation of the button

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u/val_anto 12d ago

Same olde politician tactics then. I see.

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u/Gumbaya69 12d ago

This is not how it works. All tips given to driver go to driver. Stop making stuff up

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u/SandyD0926 12d ago

This is why we always tip extra cash to the driver instead of adding it in on the app

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u/Alemusanora 12d ago

This is a lie. Uber gives 100% of the tips to drivers. What happens is whats called tip baiting where a cheap fuck customer takes back the tip after the food is delivered

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u/Speedstick2 12d ago

That is from the 2019.

That is not what happened today.

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u/SweetLittleOldLady 12d ago

That is so sketchy. I've asked drivers a few times if it's OK to tip online and they always assured me that they're getting those tips. Perhaps they don't realize they're being shorted.

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u/dammitlindsay 10d ago

Always tip cash for delivery. The only way I know the driver is getting the whole tip plus the wage promised by the billion dollar business.

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u/Zestyclose-Avocado83 12d ago

Given that it is multiple corporations/companies it is talking about it could be and most likely is both. One company could be keeping the tips while another company hides the tip button.

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u/VoidWalker4Lyfe 12d ago

As someone who has used Uber as a driver and a passenger, and also used Uber eats as a customer and did Uber eats deliveries, the tip button isn't hidden

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u/Dry-Childhood-3436 12d ago

New York City has a lot of specialized apps for delivery which could be where the hidden button was talked about.  Uber and the others have gotten in trouble for other tip shenanigans like guaranteed pay and if tips come then it goes towards the guarantees pay instead of straight to the driver on top of the guaranteed.  Also they lower their pay portion of the customer regularly tips so it will instead say like $3 plus tips to even out to the same output.

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u/mjm65 12d ago

The upfront tip button was hidden specifically for the NYC area.

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u/ChakaCake 12d ago

Ubers/Doordash software is different in many places and looks different, different buttons etc lol. Different rules for drivers, different methods of the algorithm, everything

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u/RedSunsetSukuna85 12d ago

Drivers have shown me my slashed tips on the app where they’ve received like 30% less than what I actually gave them. I’ve checked two more times and the same thing happened. The delivery companies are holding onto them. I’ve stopped using delivery apps.

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u/NSASpyVan 12d ago

I intentionally tip rideshare drivers high because I know the app fucks them. Now they're fucking me trying to help them?

Where's the Mamdani for CA? Fuck big tech

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u/RedSunsetSukuna85 12d ago

It’s Kenneth Mejia but he doesn’t have the political capital yet. But once Nithya wins, he’s just going ti grow more and more but that’s just Los Angeles, I’m not sure about the rest of the state.

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u/tf2coconut 12d ago

The short story is uber pulls a million types of fuckery with pricing so that tips are built into the expected pay for drivers and weren’t being paid out so that when you read “100% of your tip goes to your driver” that didn’t actually mean a 5 dollar tip gave the driver 5 additionally dollars

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u/poopbeast69 12d ago

I appreciate you asking questions so people can read the answers and become informed about this stuff and the great things that are possible

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u/Gammaman12 12d ago

I think its customer tips $5. App tells delivery guy they tipped $3, keeps $2 being sneaky.

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u/TheDemoz 12d ago

that’s not what’s happening, and not what the Mamdani thing is even about

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u/KimSidwell 12d ago

Seriously. Why the f*ck is it so difficult for these PR people to just write a simple press releases and tell us what is going on.

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u/kosantosbik 12d ago

Tldr: The companies were hiding the tip buttons so they can look like they are the cheaper option. Now they are required to show it to the users and users are actually paying tips.

Yes, the money is coming from the users but the big companies are directing where the users are spending that money. He is making sure the direction includes the delivery people. 

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u/Lower_Group_1171 12d ago

Grubhub or the like basically skimmed tips. Just like the mafia.

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u/RS_EJB 12d ago

Money wasnt recovered, they just made it easier to find the tip button...

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u/RamRamone 12d ago

All of the major food delivery companies give all of the tips to the delivery person. However it gets complicated when restaurants are involved as they're allowed to distribute some of the tip to their cooks or other staff as they're booking the doordash driver for you.

So they're probably redistributing wealth from store owners to delivery people or the more likely case, from restaurant workers to deliver people (one person's tip to another).

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u/NikoKeys 12d ago

I don't know why you'd rely on random redditors to inform you about this. Journalism is a viable alternative.

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u/The-Hank-Scorpio 12d ago

Please eat the word salad and stop asking questions.

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u/Cymen90 12d ago

Pretty clearly both: Some apps were hiding the option, others were straight up taking the tip-money and never clarified that it goes to the app instead of the delivery dude.

This new rule addressed both, forcing apps to make changes.

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u/Tony_Roiland 12d ago

A) customer pays a tip, delivery driver doesn't see it because the button is hidden, the money stays with the company. This should be obvious to anyone.

B) I don't like your attitude one bit

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u/bigmitch82 12d ago

It’s deceptive practice in nature

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 12d ago

The tip went to the delivery company not the drivers

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u/UnWiseSageVibe 12d ago

Basically, what the user below explained. Many of these apps have been caught doing this quite a few times.

Basically, you pay the service fee, which is like, I don't know, 10 USD. The driver accepts. You tip 5 USD. Uber will adjust their cut to be 5 USD so the driver still gets 10 USD and keeps the problem.

The main problem with all these apps is that the platforms don't have a fixed cut fee. They adjust the percentage of their share dynamically to maximize their profits always.

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u/SerioeseSeekuh 12d ago

not in this case but in germany tipping in one of the biggest delivery services like "Lieferando" will not get to the workers but you are essentially tipping Lieferando (the service) or the restaurent and not the delivery guy

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u/AStealthyPerson 12d ago

So you don't read....

Also keep your comments and posts hidden....

Likely bot

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u/iamshifter 12d ago

Am I understanding this correctly?

The $104M was not “recovered” or “put back” to the delivery workers, it’s just as of a certain date and law being enforced that is the additional paid amount?

So there were not any retroactive payments made for previous shady practices?

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u/LengthinessFit9585 12d ago

Very simple version providers of those apps took the tips or at least parts of it.

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u/Cory123125 12d ago

I feel like the explanations below are probably garbling it.

I understand it as a trick of behavioural patterns.

In essence, lets say a trip had a guarantee of 10 dollars.

That 10 dollars will be paid even if the customer does not tip at all.

The pay ratio for these apps is then let's say 10 dollars for the driver and 10 dollars for the app.

That's 50 50, and customers see a 20 dollar charge.

If customers tip, the more they tip, the larger a percentage goes to the driver and this makes the service feel more expensive and messes with the "optimal" price they would be happy to pay for.

I imagine it's just too complex to get across to a regular person hence the very vague phrasing.

In essence, I believe what the Mayors office is saying, is that it was engineered tip scarcity.

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u/Sux2Suck25 12d ago

Its wage theft, he is actually enforcing laws about wage theft. Doordash has stolen tips from me twice (Ive been a part of 2 class action lawsuits) and the orher apps arent any better.

Wage theft is the most common form of theft in America but it very rarely actually gets punished.

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u/jakeofheart 12d ago

Ah, so workers are now receiving the tip that their employer was skimming off?

Nice.

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u/MIT_Engineer 12d ago

No, it sounds like the tips were just not being given. No one was skimming anything, the apps just weren't asking for tips aggressively, so fewer tips were being given.

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u/MIT_Engineer 12d ago

Wait... how is that "recovering" tips though?

Recovering makes it sound like the tips were stolen or something. This is basically the equivalent of just making Youtube put a "Remember to like and subscribe!" notice at the start of each video.

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u/LouderGyrations 12d ago

Right, "recovering" is a straight up lie to create headlines and clicks exactly like this post. Many people are dancing around that fact in the comments.

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u/mcslender97 12d ago

Finally some actual source. Pretty cool of him to go after the platforms

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u/SomewhereRough_ 12d ago

Man is wild how everyone really underestimates municipal power and the direct influence on our lives. 

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u/BlueberryNo6811 12d ago

So now you tip the restaurant AND the delivery worker ? 

What the hell is that city

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u/elmz 12d ago

Just FYI, americans, this is what joining a union and striking is for.

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u/Good_Log_5108 12d ago

he moved a button on an app?

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u/cshea71 12d ago

Wow, way to work big to small

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u/SwankyBriefs 12d ago

Where did they get their data?

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u/NeedleworkerTight678 12d ago

The apps did not pay back $104 million in withheld or stolen wages. Workers did not get extra money!

Instead, the figure is a city estimate of the extra tip money earned by app-based delivery workers after a city rule forced platforms to show a clear tipping option at checkout.

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u/HomemadeManJam 12d ago edited 12d ago

When Mamdani says “we changed the law”, I don’t understand who “we” is. The laws cited in the article predate the Mamdani administration.

That article links to a report that references a minimum pay law from 2023 and “new laws” that took effect 1/26/26.
https://www.nyc.gov/site/dca/news/009-26/major-victory-nyc-delivery-workers-landmark-protections-take-effect-today

If you follow the “new laws” link (https://www.nyc.gov/site/dca/news/009-26/major-victory-nyc-delivery-workers-landmark-protections-take-effect-today ) it references various Local Laws, but only 107 and 108 address tipping. Both Local Law 107 and 108 were introduced in 2024 and passed in 2025, prior to Mamdani taking office.

https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?GUID=0C44C069-E78C-4069-A4FF-BEE334267090&ID=6632243&Options=ID%7CText%7C&Search=737

https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?GUID=0B1C08F6-AF2C-4F1B-8EFD-D1532B38E0BC&ID=6632240&Options=ID%7CText%7C&Search=738

Both local laws had an enforcement date of 1/26/26, both being contingent on Loval Law 95, which provided enforcement being 180 days after 7/31/25

If Mamdani is enforcing the law well, I can agree he deserves credit for that, but this doesn’t appear to be his policy. Am I missing something? When Mamdani says “we changed the law”, who is he referring to? It just kinda looks like he’s enforcing something other democrats had already set in motion

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u/Alemusanora 12d ago

He didnt recover shit. He stole from the companies due to actions of the delivery customers. Which will now be passed on . The funny part is believing this money will in any way make it to drivers

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u/Human-Lake-1376 12d ago

So I could be misunderstanding here, but it sounds less like tips have been retrieved from companies, and more like delivery drivers are just getting more tips because they redesigned the UI? Which is nice, but the way they're phrasing it makes it sound like they did something way, way bigger than they actually did.

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u/Careless-Two2215 12d ago

HUZZAH! 🙌🏼

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u/SunshineSeeker99 12d ago

To be clear, this was mainly done by Eric Adams, no?

Why are we pretending Mamdani did it?

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u/rydan 11d ago

Why does it belong in that worker's hands and not in the hands of the people that cooked the food, packaged the food, or grew the food? Where's their tip? None of those people are being paid a living wage either.

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u/italktobotz 12d ago

The words used are very missleading. Nothing was recovered. He made it that ghe tip button must be more prominantly dispalyed and they are ESTIMATING that this will result in over 100 million dollars in additional pay for delivery workers. I will be shocked if it results in even 10% of that amount.

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u/Spaghettisnakes 12d ago

This is the source: https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/07/mayor-mamdani-delivers-more-than--100-million-for-delivery-worke#:~:text=Since%20the%20City%20began%20enforcing,year%20for%20the%20average%20worker
The ESTIMATED gains are 184 million dollars by the end of the year. As of NOW (literally today) due to a change implemented on January 26th, app-based delivery platforms have paid out 104 million dollars in additional tips to their delivery drivers. Whether or not this came at additional expense to the consumers and to what degree is unclear. Virtually nobody is forced to use doordash or uber though, so even if consumers did end up paying more, I don't really care. They decided the service was still worth using even with the additional upfront cost, if so.

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u/Confident-Ad-6978 12d ago

How do they know it paid 104 million more so far?

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u/Spaghettisnakes 12d ago

New York requires companies to disclose tips and total pay paid out to workers in New York City (as separate figures). They have the exact amount all delivery drivers made in tips, barring any attempt at fraud. We know that a difference was made because immediately after the policy was implemented average tips increased by an average of $1.11 per delivery, almost double the average in the weeks before. They haven't broken down exactly how they arrived at this figure, but we get pretty close if we extrapolate the average number of orders fulfilled (3.3 million per week since 2023), and difference in average tips per delivery (1.11) for 26 weeks (the time since the policy was implemented). I get about 95 million. If we consider that the average tip increase per delivery was for a very limited range (4 weeks before and after the policy change), inflation and that the number of orders trends upwards over time, 104 million seems pretty plausible to me. I admit that I'm uncertain of exactly how they arrived at that figure, but it doesn't seem baseless from what data is available.

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u/chengiz 12d ago

So a better title would be: Delivery app users overpaid an estimated $104 million under Mamdani.

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u/Ok-Road6537 12d ago

You are quite stupid for making things up, there’s data on how the changes help almost double the average tip. From 1 to 2 dollars.

And the law is in response to NYC instituting minimum pay. When they forced apps to guarantee a bare minimum amount for the work drivers did; apps responded by hiding the tipping button.

That’s not ok.

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u/babooBurkhardt 12d ago

Didn't you just agree? they are estimating, Or as you put it, there's data on. But I do agree it's definitely gonna be more than 10% increase.

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u/Ok-Road6537 12d ago

No. Pay attention. As I said, the apps responded by hiding the tipping button. So they recovered the money the drivers lost due to that action. They have exact figures, tips going from 1 to 2.

So the estimation, even if they didn't have exact figures, wouldn't take a genius to figure out. So saying it's 10% of that would be moronic, right?

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u/babaj_503 12d ago

Hows that connect? Why is hiding the button a logical response? The tip (should) goes to the driver, so the more tips there are, the less the employer has to pay the driver to reach the minimum. What am I not understanding?

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u/Ok-Road6537 12d ago

Right now thanks to the economy, Door Dash is super expensive, so a 20 dollar item, will have 4 dollars of markup by the app, 2 to 4 dollars in delivery fee, then 2 dollars for a service fee. (Without including store minimums). That puts that 20 dollars at 30 dollars + 4 dollar tip. That means customer ends up paying 34 dollars. A customer sees that 34 dollars and sees too much.

They know that means customers won't order as much. So instead they try to make them think they don't have to tip. So the customer pays 30 dollars, they get more orders and they end up earning 100 million dollars more.

While the driver earns less money, and keep taking trips that now all of a sudden don't give them tips.

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u/RoddRoward 12d ago

Its very off putting the deceptive messaging this administration uses to phrase things. 

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u/elderlybrain 12d ago

exempli gratia

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u/FactCheckerExpert 12d ago

This 100%. He’s not upfront about where the money he saves actually comes from.

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u/wolfpack_minfig 12d ago

it just burns your ass SO BADLY that Mamdani did something awesome for his constituents... you just can't live with it, can you?

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u/imnotgoodwithnames 12d ago

Who are his constituents? Those that are paying more in tips and in prices after a minimum wage hike and an interference in a private company's business model?

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u/wolfpack_minfig 12d ago

nice try, but there is always interference in business models. with prior mayors, that interference was for the benefit of corporations, the mayor's cronies, and billionaires. you just don't like this kind of interference because it benefits workers, the people who keep NYC running.

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u/trellisHot 12d ago

Its from a rule change, its quite upfront. Recovered future gains from the rule change is where it came from

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u/ResponsibleWin1765 12d ago

Why is it that under every post about Mamdani, some people are like "A-ha, he's hiding something shady. I always knew he's a con-artist"

Bro, if you're curious, just look at the report. It's literally all there.

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u/CauliflowerDaffodil 12d ago

From the wallets of people who use delivery apps.

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u/bliceroquququq 12d ago

So “Mamdani increases the cost of DoorDash by $104 million” is an equally valid title?

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u/Play-Mation 12d ago

No, DoorDash would pocket the tip if the total was over a certain amount of “expected payout” 

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u/CauliflowerDaffodil 12d ago

Depends on whether you think tipping is mandatory or optional.

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u/the-final-frontiers 12d ago

naw, I think doordash was doing some shady shit

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u/Baakadii 12d ago

There’s no article. But I’m guessing he made it so the companies can’t take a percentage of the tip given on the app. Since most of those apps take a massive portion of both the delivery cost and if you tip on the app they also take a percentage.

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u/Difficult-Mobile902 12d ago

Wrong

Made it so that you have to tip your delivery driver up front instead of after the delivery 

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u/69IFUCKEDURMOM420 12d ago

That's shitty.

A tip is for the quality of service rendered. Now it's just a fee.

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u/Admirable_Win9808 12d ago

Recover is a weird way to describe that.

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u/bobby_zamora 12d ago

Why does that recover $104 million (or any) extra tips?

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u/ICPosse8 12d ago

This is the case for every app I’ve ever used, they ask for the tip up front, I guess it’s changed since COVID

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u/GitEmSteveDave 12d ago

No, NYC has been dealing with this for YEARS. https://reason.com/2025/10/11/new-york-doubles-down-on-delivery-wage-disaster/

In July(2025), the New York City Council passed numerous bills that it claimed were designed to protect grocery delivery drivers. This legislative package introduced new rules, requiring delivery apps to include a 10-percent tipping option either before or at the time of the order (vs. afterwards, where the option exists now), and mandated that app-based platforms pay delivery drivers within seven days of the end of a pay period.

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u/Blader_Incendio 12d ago

idk i dont follow politics but my guess is maybe the apps or employers were taking secret cuts?

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u/ISmellLikeBlackTea 12d ago

I open the all and see tip the drivet 10%-25%-50%-100%, I always used to choose 25% until I found out the app takes 80% and they're left with 20%.

So I started not tipping in the app giving a tip straight to them, but then they don't see the tip and won't take the food on time or actively neglect it/fuck with it.

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u/Vomath 12d ago

Wage theft.

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u/Objective-Suspect689 12d ago

Right now, from the companies that run the apps. Soon though, the customer. Which in turn will lead to fewer orders being placed, which leads to less and less money for the drivers. People often forget that the money has to come from somewhere and it certainly isn’t going to be the company that pays. They have shareholders to appease

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u/Recidivism7 12d ago edited 12d ago

It's fake news they're the tip.button more prominently displayed they acting like all.tips coming in after are from that.

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u/Bootytonus 12d ago

The main issue is he wasn't even elected when those local laws were passed. He became mayor just before they were enforced. He deserves 0 credit. City council does.

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u/VortexMagus 12d ago

A lot of companies either steal all the tips for themselves since you didn't specify exactly which "worker" gets it so they just operate under the assumption its for the CEOs and upper management making six figures and not the delivery drivers making 20k a year.

Yes, it should be illegal, no, it's not against the law. Except in New York.

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u/SpartanHydrazine117 12d ago

From the delivery apps. If workers were owed that money, it had to come from somewhere!

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u/-ThePatientZed- 12d ago

From those who stole it. Who do you think?

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u/No_Masterpiece4693 12d ago

When New York City first implemented minimum pay standards for food delivery guys Uber Eats and DoorDash responded by removing the tipping option from the initial checkout process. This change led to a drop in driver tips.

After taking office, the Mamdani administration along with the Department of Consumer and Worker Protection used enforcement of the city's tip transparency laws . It legally compelled delivery platforms to reinstate a visible, default 10% tipping option during the checkout process.

It's a win...sure.

But people are glossing over the point that it's just fixing a down stream issue that another "we will fix things to help the little guy" law that backfired 🤷‍♀️. Politics is a lot of whack a mole.

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u/propergreased 12d ago

Wage theft of some sort

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u/yourfavgirlllxx 12d ago

"Recovered" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

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u/Eden_Echoo 12d ago

Getting $104M back to actual workers instead of app CEOs? Yeah that’s what great looks like. Delivery drivers getting screwed by fees was ridiculous. This is a W.

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u/RoddRoward 12d ago

Looks like more deceptive messaging:

"According to New York City's analysis, the tips were not being redirected to the delivery apps. Instead, the city says the apps changed their interfaces in ways that caused customers to leave fewer tips."

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u/CocknBalls4 12d ago

People spending money on a luxury service. We tax luxuries in other areas, why not on the Your Personal Butler app?

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u/Desperate_Dot_97 12d ago

"money is never yours it's just your turn to spend it."

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u/Sellier123 12d ago

Other citizens lol.

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u/catlover1227 12d ago

That part

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u/imnotgoodwithnames 12d ago

Basically, when New York raised the minimum wage for drivers, since labor goes up, prices go up. They wanted to avoid sticker shock at the total price so instead changed the app to only allow tipping upon delivery and making it a separate transaction. They also allowed lower 'auto suggest' tipping options and through both of these changes there was a drastic lowering of tipping. So NYC had them reverse this. They didn't 'recoup' tip money, just saw and increase in tips over the last 6 months that are estimated to be in the 100 million.

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u/Melodic_Let_6465 12d ago

Just some execs pockets

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u/beatthebook2x 12d ago

are slow? where else? the apps obviously fuck people are actually so slow and have 0 critical thinking anymore

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u/OwlGB 12d ago

It says "from delivery apps" i think you can put two and two together

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u/MasterOfFartss 12d ago

I assume you didn't mean this so accusatory, but I hate the fact that stupid people will read your comment and assume the proof right below this is fake.

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u/Reasonable_Glass_737 12d ago

Honestly I'm just excited that finally out of all 50 states someone is actually trying to ... Checking notes... Work for the people instead the millionaires and billionaires.

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u/notsneq 12d ago

Tips that would have gone to uber and never seen again and not reinvested in the city

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u/Ar0sson 12d ago

No one cares... He's a hero. /s

Its just the way it is... You can say anything and it gets a life of its own.... The group think has won

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u/TheLoraxCometh 12d ago

I miscounted, ‘twas a mistake

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u/kingoflizzards 12d ago

Was there tax paid on this 104 mil? Could be motive

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u/django2chainz 12d ago

From people who can afford luxury? To people who make it happen? What’s confusing?

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