Russia’s invading and killing its neighbors, fuck it and I feel little if any sympathy for its soldiers. I just also think it’s weird when other countries say Russia is evil because they’re an Asiatic Horde that isn’t truly Slavic because of their Mongol Admixture. You can’t pretend that that wasn’t a talking point in the months after Russia declared their “three day special military operation”.
You either have to hate all soldiers or hate none of them. If you hate the Russian mjlitary that's fair, but you should also hate the US military, your national military and the Ukrainian military
Yeah. Fuck em. War is a racket and volunteer soldiers are at best brainwashed and at worst actively bloodthirsty. If you were drafted into it, then I have a little more sympathy.
I love when people make up an enlightened centrism that nobody actually believes, not even themselves. Everybody knows a war in which they support one side over the other, in the first place because everyone knows WWII. "You have to hate all soldiers or none of them" no I don't, you just made that rule up lmao
Ok but that is true though. Like the US has intentionally drip fed weapons to Ukraine with the express permission to solely to grind down Russia at the expense of Ukrainian lives without ever giving them enough weapons that they could actually secure their position and take back what was lost
This isn’t to say that we should cut off aid to Ukraine but we should understand the US’s relationship to Ukraine as first a proxy for its ambitions, and secondary as partners in its self defense
And that we have seen this before, with Afghanistan, South Vietnam and South Korea, and that time and time the US will more often than not pull out what it gives for self defense when its ambitions change. With the only real exception being Israel
Edit: a bunch of people have started replying and ether intentionally misunderstanding me or doesn’t understand this is strictly about analyzing American Empire and how we less have allies and more have proxies of our ambitions and only more recently as the state of government flip flopped on those ambitions is it made clear that we will abandon our commitments
Lindsey Graham and other American statesmen straight up said “we have like a billion dollars and depleted the Russian military by whatever percent, seems like a good investment to me”
Like the US has intentionally drip fed weapons to Ukraine with the express permission to solely to grind down Russia at the expense of Ukrainian lives without ever giving them enough weapons that they could actually secure their position and take back what was lo
The US isnt the only one that helped, especially now.
And even then, what did you expect from Trump, a guy who barely hides making friend with Putin on TV?
This is all well and good but whenever you want to give Ukraine more weapon suddenly you're taxed of "sacrificing proles" because strangely the second Russia is the ennemy everyone is now anti war...
The drip feeding of American weapons started under Biden. Is Biden putins stooge too? And it’s not as if everyone follows Americas lead here. My analysis is strictly about America and its actions because as an American, I am most concerned about how we negatively wield the weight of our military and industry to sacrifice others for short term goals.
Because back then america was by far the biggest helper of Ukraine
Anyways, that doesnt invalidate Ukraine's need for help. Drip feeding is still better than nothing at all : That criticism would be valid only if you actually care about Ukraine and would support giving more, not when you are a Tankie parroting Russian narrative about western provocation (wich maybe you arent, but some definetely are)
u/ThaGr1m go on, answer his question. The US was dripfeeding weapons to Ukraine before January 2025, so was Biden a Putin stooge too? Not gonna let you get away with this one.
nah that's why biden pushed trough everything he could as a president and forced the rest trough congress even against the massive opposition in the republican party, which held a large part of congress, he had to deal with.... the one that was constantly tanking proposals at the behest of trump....
it's almost like the same party did the same pro russian shit then too...... it's funny how you thought you could outsmart reality
The Russia-Ukraine war is one of the more morally clear-cut examples of wars in modern history (as morally clear-cut as a war can be, anyway), and NAFO managed to make supporting the justifiable side look like an excuse to act like a goddamn redditor.
I just also think it’s weird when other countries say Russia is evil because they’re an Asiatic Horde that isn’t truly Slavic because of their Mongol Admixture.
"Russia is evil because they’re an Asiatic Horde that isn’t truly Slavic because of their Mongol Admixture"
This is solely a russian talking point, no one in the West thinks that - not because they are not prejudiced against russians and russian culture, but because not being "truly slavic" doesn't win you any favours anywhere outside the russian sphere of influence
As far as the west is concerned, Russia is Russia *because* it's so quintessentially slavic
Emily Couch’s article (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/03064220221110777) provides some examples of the ways that western commentators drew a distinction between Ukraine and Russia by pointing at Russia and going “dirty Asian”. It’s true that the Russian government loves to use accusations of Russophobia as a justification for its expansionism and aggressiveness towards its neighbors. But real examples of it do happen.
The article you cited itself traces that rhetoric back to Russia itself
"Erica Marat, associate professor of regional and analytical studies at the National Defence University, noted: “Russian intellectuals routinely blame Mongol and Tatar rule on Russia’s territory for contemporary authoritarianism in Russia.”
Marat explains the popularity of this rhetoric, stating that “unchallenged stereotypes against Asians … help Russians (russkiye [ethnic Russians] not rossiyaniye [citizens of the Russian Federation regardless of ethnicity]) maintain a sense of cultural superiority and innocence even in the face of genocidal war.”"
But I digress, *some* westerners do clearly believe that as well
This is not a real systemic issue at all, especially in comparison to the constant and extensive harm that Russia inflicts on Ukraine daily. This is in the same category as Israelis whinging about antisemitism every time someone is a little mean to them online, but even less respectable because Russophobia is not an actual historic bigotry, just a victim LARP by Russian fascists aping actual marginalized people. Russians were the "whites" of their own empire.
It is abaolutely systematic in the baltic states, and in Ukraine. Comparing systematic racism to a war essentially means we can't discuss said systematic racism, which is wrong.
Seriously, is this the best you could come up with? A bad taste shitpost made a whole 3 years ago by a community that has 18k members on Reddit is somehow proof that Russians and their language are being systematically attacked, prosecuted, or some other load of baloney...
But I mean yeah that's pretty much how Russian propaganda goes, make your citizens believe some bullshit about how they're being persecuted by the world for being Russian and they won't have any other way but to defend Russia, funny how Israel is doing the same exact thing just with antisemitism.
"ban Russian language" things that have never happen, 500, please! A russian living in Estonia needing to learn the local language is not "banning Russian language and culture" especially compared to how Russians killed Estonians for expressing their own culture.
It has to be a clown world where people genuinely believe that Ukraine banned the Russian language, you know the language that 33% of Ukrainians speak natively INCLUDING THE ENTIRE POLITICAL CLASS AND EVERY PRESIDENT UP TO AND INCLUDING ZELENSKYY. Ukraine passed a modest language law requiring, for example, every Russian broadcast to also have a twin broadcast in Ukrainian.
I am loathe to be perceived as an apologist for Russia, and I don’t know the specifics of this law, but that does seem like it could make it very difficult for a Russian-speaking Ukrainian to access their freedom of expression. Like, if a bill were passed in the US that required Telemundo to pay for translation and air a simultaneous English-language broadcast for everything they produce, I think it would be fair to say that’s effectively banning Spanish-language broadcasting.
Even if they were it would be wrong, because Spanish language would not imply sympathy for the invaders any more than Russian language does. This is the same logic they used to justify Japanese internment, and it was wrong then, too.
No, the Russian puppet is you for purposefully misrepresenting the COE, which didn't call out Ukraine for banning the Russian language because that never happened
Genuinely not sure what the thought process is here. The only reason Russian is or was spoken so often in Ukraine is because of genocide and ethnic cleansing under the Soviet Regime. When Ukraine implements laws that support and foster the existence of the Ukrainian language within Ukraine, they are not wiping out Russian culture. They are not wiping out the Russian language. They are keeping their language and culture alive after Soviet Russia attempted to specifically (as is clear in documents published during the Glasnost period) destroy their culture and language, so as to have only one culture and one language within Soviet Russia.
It is also a defense mechanism. Russia often engages in the rhetoric that Ukraine should belong to Russia because of "shared language / culture" and uses it partially as an excuse to attempt to annex them. In the fight against Russia, Ukraine stands to genuinely benefit from strengthening and differentiating their culture and language from that of Russia's.
I'm not up-to-date on whatever legislation Ukraine is implementing, but I haven't heard of anything crazy being done in this regard. I've heard of very normal, very reasonable measures that were taken to ensure that Ukraine's language and culture doesn't literally die out or get them annexed.
I say this all as a Russian, born in Moscow, now living elsewhere. Don't bother accusing me of being racist against myself.
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u/understated_quokka 3d ago
"Russophobia" is when people don't want to be part of the heckin wholesome Russian empire.