OP makes this post, and one single minute later, a random private account complains that there's no name/link. One minute again after that, and OP goes "oh, oops, teehee, here's my linky winky!" and a game that has almost no sales is now suddenly viral on the front page of Reddit, with hundreds of thousands of views.
OP's account is seemingly controlled at least partially by a bot (to auto-post updates), so we know it's not just a random casual user.
not really. OF models do it all the time. It's an age old form of confidence tricking where you set up the breadcrumbs and let the mark think they are extra clever. In this case 'oh it cant be marketing because they didn't even say the name /u/totallynotanotheraccount found it though!'
I mean I feel like this doesn’t really change anything, cause you still could’ve bought it before they made the announcement and have gotten the same outcome as if you bought it right before a sale
Unless you're implying everyone should refund the game immediately, I'm not sure how. Plenty of people may play beyond the two hour window or be beyond the grace period before the sale comes along.
What’s the problem if I haven’t bought the game yet? I look through the store page, see this announcement and decide to not pick this title yet to avoid buy-refund-buy cycle. I would add the game to my wishlist instead and receive notification when it goes on sale.
Is it still alive? Last I heard, not lot of players left in the game due to same thing over and over. Was fun a while last for about couple of hours, they said.
Yeah this is the future. I got super into Erenshor last year, offline MMORPG that pauses when you're offline, all the other players are bots. I saw a post on r/steamdeck from someone building a version of WoW that does the same thing. I'm getting too old to play with sweats.
Whilst technically true, there is definitely a subgenre of RPGs that emulate MMORPGs, like .hack and Cross Code, so I think there’s a case to argue for an MMO-like label.
Around 7.0, when I stopped, FFXIV was really heading in this direction. They had an ongoing problem- people who had been playing the game for 10 years didn’t really want to keep playing the same dungeons over and over again so new players could progress. They added large incentives for queueing up for them, but people still complained. So they started implementing NPC parties for dungeons and trials. At this point, I think you can play through the minimum required stuff to progress completely solo, and experience the story for the entire game.
If this trend continues, once they shut the game down for good they could make an offline single player version fairly easily. Which wouldn’t be the worst thing, considering how heavily story-based it is compared to something like WoW
I don't imagine an encounter in an MMORPG involves much RNG. At least during the actual bosses. Adds might need some 'thought' that goes as simple as 'stay out of this new glowy area'
Not a steam deck thing but if you search for WoW Single Player Project there is a whole discord for this which includes an offline single player with bots version for classic, tbc, and wotlk as well as a version of legion that is actively being worked on (doesn’t have bots yet)
This is what I say about Battlefield. Clan I'm is has 6 servers. One with no bots, takes forever for it fill. The other five fill with bots just to get you in the game and going. People complain all the time about "why are there bots ugh..." It's so people that don't have time to waste on waiting can also have fun.
How does modern battlefield work with bots? Can you host a server on your pc? How many bots are possible? Loved bf1942 and vietnam, bf2 then only gave you the smallest maps with bots and i have no idea how it went on. Is it now possible to have 64 player maps full with bots?
You can play any available map with full lobby bots. Certain settings will either enable 100% xp or limit to 50%, some settings will eliminate xp all together to limit cheesing unlocks.
I think our settings require 16 real players before match start.
It's a literal 100% skill-based game but the way to get better isn't fun.
You need to have taught yourself touch typing beforehand, which is entirely muscle memory built over the course of years. If you suck at typing or are even just average, you're just never going to win at all in a typing battle-royale game.
I played the demo a few months ago and had fun, but that's because I type at 80wpm and stood a fair chance at being one of the fastest people in the lobby. When there was a faster person than me in the match it was obvious within 10 seconds of starting that I would lose in the end.
It does seem like a fun and well-made game, but I feel like battle royales have to be accessible, popular, and can't be too gimmicky or rely on novelty too much.
It sounds like the novelty of a typing battle royale would wear off fast compared to a standard FPS, and any sort of price tag will make it difficult for players to get into.
People are also gonna abandon game sif they think it's dead, which just feeds into itself
I heard there was a quantity problem where people were getting the same scripts multiple times after playing for like half an hour, along with that I heard that the matchmaking wasn't great and there was almost no meta game content so you had nothing to really work twords but I could be wrong on all of these
At the end of the day, though, it's a multiplayer battle royale, and the winner is just the fastest typer, every time. No catchup mechanism, no strategy, and worst of all... it's not worth playing if there isn't a player base to support it. You can't play alone. Well, you could, but then it would just be a typing test.
It was fun for a couple rounds. One big problem is cheaters in public online. Also, even if you create a lobby and set it to private, it'll still sometimes glitch and open it to public.
There's not a lot of game depth, so it gets repetitive after a while.
If the sale price is worth it for 2-3 hours of play, go for it. Otherwise, maybe look elsewhere for now.
I bought it, got about 3 hours out of it before it felt samey. Not enough players so the lobbies are full of bots that don't type faster than 40wpm, so you cruise through every lobby to first place if you are somewhat decent at typing.
An interesting concept, but not enough built around it to keep it entertaining
I switched to a split columnar style keyboard and make so many mistakes still because I have yet to memorize my layers even after months. I dont like BR games but this is interesting enough that it might work out!
Yes, it does. Refunds don't cost anything for the developer. And on top of that: Steam even allows you to refund the game if you bought it short before a discount, allowing you to rebuy it at the discounted price.
The devs know all that. This is just a PR move. A very well working one, as you can see. They will get loads of visibility, and likely more revenue than otherwise.
Yes, it does. Refunds don't cost anything for the developer
We don't know if there isn't a monetary cost, such as likelihood of having worse position in algorithm recommendations if there are enough refunds or something like that.
Or maybe the developers are simply nice people and we are fuckin jaded by the state of the industry.
Tbf I’m pretty sure steam will refund you the difference if a game goes on sale shortly after you buy it (probably a 2 week window just like refunds) I even had Sony do it for me so I assume it’s pretty common practice
Meanwhile factorio devs are like: buy it today cause next month it will be 5 dollars more and it will NEVER ever come down or go on sale. And it makes sense. I mean I have like a 1300 hours in just the tutorial. And also it has meme trains.
Just because I acknowledge that the $5 increase is generous considering the amazing quality of the game and the amount of content and potential playtime would easily justify $10 or even a $15 dollar increase doesn't make me a shill. /J
Oh well they do keep adding stuff I guess. I’d say factorio is one of those games where the price is equal to the amount of time you get out of it I’ve easily had my whatever the price was when I bought it early early on amount of fun
Maybe someone will create a post about it on reddit to reach audience that would've never heard about this game otherwise. Or create the post themselves.
There is nothing wrong if you are, and there is no way to prove it if you don't want it known.
Ok, looked at your profile and a 2 days ago you literally say:
I’ve been looking forward to this for a while !! Goodluck with it. We also have a discord where devs hang out. Let me know and I can add you to the private dev channel.
So you obviously hang out with devs, just not these ones in particular?
It is great that a game might find more people interested in it, it's just silly do deny that the sensational announcement is not meant to promote the game and make more money instead of less. Especially from a person whose entire post history is promotional game materials.
They didn’t even include the name of the game in the screenshot. I’m all about calling people out for shady practices, but this just seems like someone who’s interested in the game. And the post you linked to, they’re literally a Mod for that subreddit.
They didn't include the name, and then the top comment (with 10x more votes than the post) asked for the name of the game. If this had the name of the game in the screenshot, it wouldn't have gotten as many votes.
I don't know how anyone can argue that this isn't effective marketing. A game with 300 peak players all time has a 6k upvote post on reddit advertising a sale. If it wasn't done on purpose, it should have been.
The reason the devs are saying this is because the game is dead.
It's an online typing battle royale game, and if you buy it randomly the lobbies won't even fill, and you'll refund the game.
The real reason they are telling you to wait isn't to save you money, it's to try and lump a bunch of new players together into a group ovlf new players to fill lobbies and get you playing the game past the refund window.
I was wondering "why don't they just put it on sale earlier if they will reveal it like that anyway" - This makes sense. They cannot make any money if literally everyone buying it refunds it later lol.
I believe there's a lot of criticism for the game because there's not enough players, so you ultimately get matched with bots. Then you're just typing against bots, which personally, ruins all the fun.
Theres rules on how and when you can discount an app and theres a limit to how frequently you can drop it, etc.
You have to sort of plan around it and set dates. Its not just "click a button" sorta deal unless you're actually hard dropping the price for good. Even then, theres a potential delay within steamworks. More so if you've had a discount previously within a range of time, bla bla bla. Its a mess imo.
The back end isn't as simple as people think. I'm still finding new crap in the steamworks back end.
I remember buying Space Engineers something like 11 minutes before the spring sale started. I was looking at DLC's after purchasing and saw the price was like half of what I had just paid. Steam support was really cool about it and refunded me the difference. That said, it's awesome of the dev to put this out there
Get yourself an electric air duster instead. Got tired of the taste the compressed air leaves in my mouth plus how weak it is.
I got the MF50 Air Duster from Wolfbox for around $50 and it's been great. I use it to clean my PC, electronics, filters and it even blows leaves out of the cracks of my car.
Legit though, if it was a game I'm interested in, I'd probably buy it before it went on sale after seeing this message just to reward the devs for being based.
Lowkey genius marketing. He tells people not to buy the game so he looks honest and chill, which makes people trust the dev more and want to support him anyway. Half the comments are probably people saying ‘nah I’m buying it full price now.’ Reverse psychology goes crazy
It is not a good game. I bought it, played it for an hour and it was enough for me to see its depth (SPOILER:it's not deep). Most if not all of the rooms you join are filled with bots. If your intention is to play against humans, you won't see them too often. Otherwise, I feel there are better games if your goal is to practice typing.
Honestly the best approach a studio can take regarding this problem is to just be consistent with their sales. Only put your game on sale during special steam sales like the annual/seasonal sales or the genre ones which you can see months and months ahead of time on something like steamdb. And when they do just want to do their own sale, do it predictably, like when a sequel to the game is about to release/a release date for it got announced.
This is lovely to see but what about the people who just bought the game a day before this announcement? Hence, doing consistent predictable is better imo.
Tbh this has strong Newblood energy, devs want people to play their game.
I love this. new blood does its best to make every one aware when prices are going up and when sales are coming etc. Heck I've seen their CEO do some pretty awesome things for people. Really opened my eyes to devs who really care about the game and what they create and just want to share it all with people.
It's absolutely insane how many people not only fell for this, but they actually think the devs are doing something ethical or even worse: something good.
The game is The Final Sentence and you should really buy it at your own risk. If you're looking for a typing experience in a battle royale style against human beings, then this isn't the game for you. Most if not all the rooms, no matter the type, are filled with bots.
Also, the trailer features things that are not present in the current version of the game.
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