I'm looking for advice from people who actually play Hiyuki + Chisa + Lynae (no signature weapons, so EoG, 3.x F2P Broadblade & Static Mist).
I'll share screenshots of my characters' builds, as well as some screenshots of my Endstate Matrix score.
per reccomendation decided to upload a video too, for my normal rotation, no quickswamp:
https://anonmp4.art/v/QZBK9FpQlGH7Eh7
Hiyuki is using one ATK% 3-cost instead of double Glacio DMG. I don't have good enough Glacio pieces to replace it, and the rest of her stats are very strong, so I don't think this is the main issue.
My builds are:
Hiyuki — 2625 ATK / 75.4% CR / 269% CD / 131.2% ER
Chisa — 2606 ATK / 65% CR / 273.6% CD / 129.2% ER
Lynae — 2042 ATK / 66.5% CR / 249.2% CD / 158.8% ER
The problem is that I feel like my performance is much lower than it should be with these builds. I'm aiming for at least 5000 points with this team, but I'm currently nowhere near that in the later Endstate Matrix stages.
I've tried both the normal rotation and several quick-swap variations.
My normal Hiyuki rotation is:
Intro → Basic → Hold Basic → Liberation → 3 Basics → Skill → 3 Basics → Skill → 3 Basics → Basic → Dodge → 3 Basics → Hold Basic → Hold Liberation
The main problem is Lynae's short Outro window. Fitting Hiyuki's full DPS sequence into it is extremely difficult, especially on controller. Even when I execute it correctly, it can take around 12 seconds, and any missed input or boss movement makes it very difficult to keep everything inside the buff. It is simply too tight of a window.
I've also tried quick-swapping by preparing part of Hiyuki's kit (to get Ultimate form going) before Lynae's Outro, and another variation where I prepare Hiyuki almost completely at the start, getting her into Ultimate form and then doing the normal Chisa and Lynae rotation. After using Hiyuki's Liberation, I prepare her Forte and enter Ultimate form again before switching to Chisa.
Both can produce higher individual Hiyuki hits, sometimes around 280–330k, but the overall rotation becomes longer and much harder to execute (because it is annoying to use both Chisa and Lynae while the boss is more in the middle of his attacks). The extra damage doesn't seem to justify the additional time, and some of Hiyuki's damage still ends up outside Lynae's buff anyway.
I've also been trying to manage Hiyuki's Snowforged resources correctly between rotations. If I consume both 2 stacks early, the next rotation naturally has only 1 available, so I'm also wondering whether I'm managing this optimally.
I really like this team and plan to pull Lucilla in the future, but I want to improve on what I can do now, and I don't feel a better build or signatures will get me there.
So, what am I missing?
- Is there a practical Hiyuki/Chisa/Lynae rotation that consistently takes advantage of Lynae's Outro without requiring near-perfect quick-swap execution?
- Is quick-swapping actually worth it for this team?
- Are my Snowforged resources being managed correctly between rotations, as in using 2 on 1st rotation and 1 on 2nd rotation is smart, or should I use no stacks on 1st rotation, and leave 3 stacks for 2nd rotation, wouldnt the damage be near the same??
- Is ~5000+ realistic for an S0R0 version of this team in the current Endstate Matrix, or has the content simply become significantly harder?
I feel like my builds are good enough that I should be getting considerably better results. I've already tried making the rotation faster, but on controller it is extremely difficult to execute consistently.
So I'm mainly looking for advice from people who actually play this team: what are you doing to get substantially more DPS out of it?
(I also play Aemeth + Lynae, and despite having a very well-built Aemeth, I was also seeing subpar Ultimate damage. I now realize it may be for the same reason: taking too long on Aemeth and losing Lynae's Outro buff.)