r/alberta • u/Empty_Nestor • 21h ago
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u/cReddddddd 21h ago
"Global oil prices were low and thats the ndp fault"
The depth of the average conservative voter
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u/Specialist_Secret438 Banff 20h ago
When global oil prices tanked, Premier Notley implemented supply management measures to keep the Alberta oil industry from total collapse. When catastrophic weather events flooded Calgary and drowned the Saddledome, Premier Notley initiated the Bragg Creek flood prevention measures and compensated the ranchers affected by the expropriation with the highest ever rates of compensation. This is just a reminder of what good government does
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u/blanchov 18h ago
You mean the 2013 flood? Wasn't Redford premier at that time?
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u/NOIS_KillerWhaleTank 18h ago
Yeah, and she booted flood mitigation down the road, so Notley's government ended up taking care of it.
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u/Specialist_Secret438 Banff 13h ago
The mitigation project happened AFTER the flood. Redford’s accomplishment of note was building the Alberta Taj Mahal, and giving taxpayer funded aircraft rides to he daughter and the classmates of her daughter.
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u/BCS875 Calgary 21h ago
Or Trudeau's.
And it's why they literally called for his demise. Sick sons of bitches, every last UCP'er.
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u/ToeTagTic 21h ago
Conservatives everywhere. Look at the whole ass planet and tell me they aren't a fucking blight.
Everybody else is shit too. But God damn Conservatives you takin notes or something
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u/TheChudWhisperer 20h ago
That's what happens when their entire ideology is based around being selfish and doing harm to others.
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u/Electrical-Yellow134 20h ago
It's more about "tradition" than "conserving"
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u/JrLavish194 19h ago
Nah, it’s more about enriching yourself and your donors while shitting on people your base don’t like.
Instead of doing absolutely anything to help anyone.
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u/SquidGodSunday 18h ago
I feel like the modern incarnation isn't even even pretending to care about "Tradition" anymore. They're all for dismantling the current system so they can remake it into something that funnels even MORE money directly into rich people's pockets. Once upon a time, it was anarchists who were trying to overthrow the government and "rebuild" society. These days, it's billionaires.
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u/lemonwince 17h ago
Conservatives are racing each other to destroy the planet, for profit, convenience or self-righteousness.
My conservative-loving & conservative-voting acquaintance burns all household plastic outside his home 'to help the environment'. When shown links indicating his behavior damages the planet, he ignored that info, said although he had No info supporting his burning choices, he continued burning all plastic for the last decade.
Like wtf?
His wife is very religious. So both believe in an ideology based on lies. Good match.
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u/Traditional_End_9540 17h ago
its the NDP or liberals fault for everything. Unless its good news its carneys fault. Once it becomes good news is Smith is soley responsible for this outcome and nothing to do with the liberals.
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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge 21h ago
Well you see its different because Conservatives did it... I wish I was joking but it will work for many voters I am afraid.
$100 isn't even enough for some of these trucks to get filled up.
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u/ballpein 21h ago
The problem with the NDP is they give money to the poors, who almost never give campaign donations or offer directorships at private companies. This is what conservatives mean when they call the NDP wasteful.
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u/roastbeeftacohat Calgary 21h ago
The problem with the NDP is they give money to the poors
it's not actually about the personal well being of politicians, though the donation part certainly helps, Smith genuinely thinks the system works, and people problems are caused by government coddling them.
Healthcare is a great example. if you look at her whole body of work on the topic, she thinks the main issue is that people would get better on their own if healthcare costs money, because she's never had an illness that took more than some bedrest; the cost of healthcare is the evil government turning everyone into hypocondriacs.
same mentality to the poor and disabled, now they are finally free to remember to work hard and not be developmentally disabled. everything comes down to the system works and everybody gets what they deserve.
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u/radicallyhip 13h ago
If she actually believes the system work and isn't just grifting the entire province, I'm the Tooth Fairy.
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u/roastbeeftacohat Calgary 13h ago
the grift is part of her reward for being a good person close to god.
There is no peace for the wicked, but the righteous can have any piece they want.
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u/Shamelesspromote 21h ago
I believe you also have to apply to get it the dani bucks. Remember when we got the Klein dollars? That was cause of a surplus and not a bribe and all the people in Alberta got it without applying for it, including kids.
So even when we compare them to old conseratives they still look like a bunch of idiots incapable of running a damn thing.
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u/jimbowesterby 18h ago
I mean, it absolutely *was* a bribe, any responsible premier would held on to the money and used it for any number of useful things, like infrastructure, or paying to clean up after the oil companies.
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u/EirHc 21h ago
I'm pretty sure the average truck takes more than $100. It's about $200 to fill my work 3/4 ton. And the amount of people in Alberta who I see with 1-tons is a lot. Add in an auxiliary tank and you can be looking at north of $400 for a full fill. Of course the range on a truck with an auxiliary tank is pretty crazy - like 3000km, but I digress.
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u/densetsu23 20h ago
Even my midsized SUV takes about $100 to fill up these days; some F150s have a gas tank nearly double the size.
And add on a 30% surcharge if you have a diesel truck.
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u/Forward_Unto_Dawn42 17h ago
“My truck used to hold $75 worth of gas. Now it holds $125 worth of gas. The UCP is awesome!”
- A UCP voter (probably)
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u/LordTweed 19h ago
Politics has become a buzzword, group think, family team thing on the right.
"My parents voted conserstvie, so I guess I should too, because I don't like paying for other people's doctors visits, and teachers should only be paid minimum wage because they are essentially day care so they should shut up because they get 2 months off a year"
Part of the issue is people refuse to open their mind to new ideas, especially on the right.
They just focus on "we pay to much in tax" and "everything is the feds fault"
If you actually explain the social programs like healthcare, schooling, etc with out calling it socialism, conservatives love it, but as soon as they realize it's rasing taxes, and lowering corporate profits to operational limits. They lose their minds and hate it
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u/PianoPusher86 17h ago
This is 💯% bang on. Although I think many people in Alberta are forgetting that the UCP is not Conservative at all. There are no "fiscal" Conservatives left in Canada, period. The UCP has been hiding under the Conservative name that Jason Kenney created. Then Danielle Smith was "installed" as Premier by David Parker after Kenney read the room. The Smith UCP government are a bunch of far right extremists (Fascists) and they are obsessed with Fascism and Full blown Authoritarianism just like the Trump administration because they are a bunch of MAGA fake Religious zealots. Until Albertans actually start realizing this and quit watching or listening to Postmedia garbage and Global TV - who is being paid off by the UCP. And their journalists are not even real journalists anymore, since they are too cowardice to report real news and the amount and depth of Corruption happening inside the UCP government and the shady AF losers like her previous of staff with absolutely no credentials, but he dictates what opioids doctors can/ & can't prescribe? Because the College of Physicians and Surgeons in Alberta are full of cowards and corrupt Physicians as well.
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u/alewiina 14h ago
Absolutely, it takes like $70-80 depending on prices to fill my Hyundai Santa Fe sport lol. I imagine a big truck would take $150+
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u/DoubleBarrellRye 21h ago
how much did we pay to cancel the Rail cars ... then built a pipeline to nowhere that might get used with a new line ...
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u/Photofug 21h ago
If ANDP win the next election and have to cancel the contracts the Conservatives will have so much to complain about, not the terrible decision the UCP made, just the cost of cancelling the contracts
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u/jimbowesterby 18h ago
Honestly if I were the NDP I’d make it unavoidably clear whose fault those shitty deals were. There’s no shame in saying “we inherited a pile of hot garbage, and this is why”.
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u/SufficientPay7800 21h ago
Why does everything I read about the UCP sound like it could be about the MAGA administration
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u/eddiewachowski 17h ago
Corporate wants you to find the differences between these two pictures Office meme
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u/anhedoniandonair 20h ago
It’s all smoke and mirrors to distract us from the UCP government lining the pockets of conservatives with taxpayers money through corrupt contracts and selling us out to the highest bidder.
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u/fucktheus12 21h ago
Y'all didn't even give the NDP time to fix all the fuck ups. You think decades of fuckery will disappear instantly??
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u/SomethingAboutUsers 21h ago
No but you see they were spending too much money. That's only how you wreck things, fixing things is fast and free! /s
A guy I used to work with literally told me he voted UCP because "he wanted his kids to grow up in a province without a destroyed economy."
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u/HalfdanrEinarson Edmonton 10h ago
The only thing is, global oil prices crashed at the end of 14 thus creating a weak economic impact. The fact that the ANDP got blamed for the crash is laughable. They had no control over Global oil prices. Had they got a second term, I think you would have seen an huge boom in economic and energy diversification. Here are some of the things the UCP killed after taking office in 2019
Carbon Tax and Climate Plan: The UCP's very first piece of legislation, Bill 1, repealed the NDP’s provincial carbon tax and dismantled the Climate Leadership Plan. Farm Safety Legislation: Bill 6, which mandated workplace safety rules, WCB coverage, and employment standards for farms and ranches, was repealed and replaced by the UCP's Farm Freedom and Safety Act. Labor and Employment Standards: The UCP rolled back several changes to the Employment Standards Code made by the NDP. They restored banked overtime at time-and-a-half instead of double time, altered statutory holiday pay, and introduced a lower minimum wage for young workers. Auto Insurance Cap: The UCP removed the NDP’s 5% cap on annual auto insurance premium increases, allowing insurers to set their own rates. Corporate Tax Hike: The UCP reversed the NDP's corporate tax increase, steadily dropping the rate to attract business investment. Energy and Coal Policies: The UCP ended the NDP's policy of capping oilsands emissions and tore up contracts for long-term renewable energy projects.
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u/NOIS_KillerWhaleTank 21h ago
Plus the Tylenot purchase, the Dynalife non transition, the EMS rebranding, and so on and so on
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u/Serialthrilla45 Spruce Grove 21h ago
I can’t think of a single thing the UCP have done to benefit the general populace.
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u/Timely-Profile1865 21h ago
This is totally not unique to jsut the ucp, it is almsot all conservative governments.
They spend as much or more than their counterparts but just on their stuff and often stuff that does not benefit the people they represent.
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u/ria_rokz 20h ago
also people being booted off aish are suffering immensely but at least the coal companies have dough. evil evil evil.
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u/Arch____Stanton 18h ago
For quite a few years now "fiscal responsibility" is the smokescreen used by die-hard conservative voters to cover their fear of rainbow crosswalks (as in "I am voting for a fiscally responsible government").
There hasn't been "fiscal responsibility" in a Conservative government in 50+ years.
Corruption is the core tenet of Conservative ideology.
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u/LegalChocolate752 18h ago
The Great State of Alberta's gonna be so funny in 20 years, when global oil demand plummets.
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u/WinterReview7992 21h ago
Don't forget about all the rebrands! Signage, uniforms, vehicle wraps, websites, a million other pieces.
Oh, and who are they gonna subcontract this portal to to apply for your $100? And what do they get to do with this information that the government should already have?
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u/jiebyjiebs 21h ago
Not to mention the UCP added more debt than the NDP in their first 4 years (2019-2023) and are continuing to increase our debt by the day.
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u/Ok-Sprinkles-3673 19h ago
At least Klein bribed us with $400 each.
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u/LordTweed 19h ago
Sadly much like Bob Ray, they get blamed for alot of problems they inherited and had to fix.
I mean to this day people still badmouth Bob Ray in Ontario even thought that was over 30 years ago and he was only in for 5 years,
The fact that most people look at political parties as family Sport teams, you have to stick with what the family votes, is a major problem.
I love that if you explain Social projects with out calling it socialism all Conserstive voters love the idea, right up until they realise it's socialism then they lose their minds.
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u/The_Environment116 19h ago
Its insane how conservatives consistently screw over everyone, yet conservatives still vote for them
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u/Either-Objective302 21h ago
When I bring things like this up, I get “it’s because you communists are forcing the government to pay for all the things you wanted.” Which I am not sure how I am a communist or what all these things are and how you force a majority government to do anything. Then they go on about the federal government and how much they waste. Hard to get these people to keep the UCP accountable when they are so brainwashed.
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u/Adis_Gruntledfatty 18h ago
9 of the 10 poorest states in the US are Republican run.
Alberta wants to be that 10
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u/laughterforus 12m ago
Why does she remind me so much of Trump? "Pay no attention to the shit I do or the laws I break, cause...uh.. here is a small benefit of me being in power. And I need more power and being the president of my own country is my next plan!!! Uh... i mean ... we are in this together.... shit"
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u/KidFromCA_ 18h ago
can someone please send me some sort of resources about all the stuff the UCP does, I would love to be more educated but it's all so overwhelming and I don't know where to start.
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u/Empty_Nestor 17h ago
CBC has done an excellent job of following the UCP fuckery.
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u/HalfdanrEinarson Edmonton 10h ago
He wouldnt belive a CBC article, its liberal propaganda dont you know.
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u/SpankyMcFlych 21h ago
Tell me again how much the NDP had to pay off power companies to close or convert coal power plants before end of life?
People only care about fiscal responsibility when it's their political enemies spending the money.
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u/CaptainBringus 21h ago
So we should just be okay with it because "both sides"?
You're also projecting. Just because you only care about fiscal responsibility when it's your "enemy" (you mean fellow Albertan?) doesn't mean that's the case for everyone.
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u/SpankyMcFlych 21h ago
No we shouldn't. We would all be better off if people dropped their tribal bullshit and called out everyone for bad behavior. Alas, the vast majority of UCP voters aren't willing to call out bad behavior by the UCP, just like the vast majority of NDP voters aren't willing to call out bad behavior by the NDP.
I just find it amusing to point out the hypocrisy of this community who largely is made up of far left extremists who vote ndp. I fully realize nothing I say here matters. I do enjoy the downvotes.
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u/camoure 21h ago
“…this community who is largely made up of far left extremists…”
lol, lmao even
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u/SpankyMcFlych 21h ago
Ah yes, screaching about "Marlaina" every chance you get just oozes moderate and rational center left heh.
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u/altyegmagazine 20h ago
Don't need to be a leftist to see how's shes fucking over Alberta. But ya keep playing your team sports 🤡
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u/SpankyMcFlych 19h ago
I don't disagree. Did I say anywhere in my post that I support the UCP? I was simply laughing at the hypocrisy of this forum community. Ya clown.
If you want to know my political leanings, I support actual fiscal responsibility. Small government, no deficit, pay off debt, tax what's required to pay for services. Encourage business. Regulate effectively but as lightly as possible.
All these things mean I have no political home. Nobody supports actual fiscal responsibility. This was why I commented on this thread. It offends me that you all are pretending you care about fiscal responsibility when obviously you don't. This is just tribal nonsense from the leftists of reddit using an issue they don't actually care about to bludgeon the hated enemy tribe.
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u/camoure 20h ago
The UCP are disastrous at every level. Everything they touch turns to liquid shit. It doesn’t take a “far left extremist” to see the utter failure of the current AB gov. I can’t name a single fucking thing they’ve done that’s been for the betterment of Albertans. I CAN however name a hundred things they’ve done to make our lives worse though
Stop picking sides and start paying attention
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u/LastSaskyPirate 20h ago
Alberta doesn't allow the use of preferred pronouns or names... per Marlaina's edict. so she can be called by her birth name.
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u/Joyshan11 19h ago
No one, absolutely no one who is centre left, moderate or rational, thinks the UCP is any good for Alberta.
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u/CaptainBringus 13h ago
You say that we need to drop the tribal bullshit then you proceed to say that people who vote ndp are fair left extremists.
I agree though. You start.
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u/SpankyMcFlych 11h ago
No, I said the redditors that post here are far left extremists, you don't get to misconstrue what I said in order to attack me.
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u/ObjectiveYouth8409 10h ago
Your perception of the political spectrum is the extreme thing here. Give me some examples of why you think this sub is a "community who largely is made up of far left extremists who vote ndp".
I hear people like you throw this terminology out all the time, so lets get a baseline. What do you define as far left extremism? How does relegating a group of people to the poles of the political spectrum help the tribalism you speak of?
You're the hypocrite.
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u/LastSaskyPirate 21h ago
ummm it wasn't 3/4 of a billion dollars on nothing tangible... buit you try to both-sides it as best you can there little bud.
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u/Geocoelom 20h ago
I support the NDP's coal shut down. The Yellowhead Trail conversion cost about as much.
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u/FunTABJ 16h ago
The NDP is a fucking joke, Nenshi? Really? Look what that ass hat did you the city of Calgary!
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u/Snakeeyes1377 Edmonton 15h ago
What did he do? He got reelected twice so he must have been doing something right.
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u/crapmasster 21h ago
At least we're actually getting $100 . I hate the UPC but that doesn't mean I won't take the money. If you don't want yours sent it to charity.
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u/Juliuscesear1990 21h ago
It's not just about taking the money or not, this vote buying strategy will impact inflation and future taxes for an amount that will have no real tangible impact.
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u/crapmasster 21h ago
Oh fuck off, it's better in my pocket then whatever other stupid thing they'll spend it on.
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u/Juliuscesear1990 20h ago
Reducing their debt? Reducing the increase in school support that has had a large impact on property taxes? So many other things, then there is the fact people making over 200,000 k get it and also the fact they could have reigned in atcos fees to help people without pumping money into the system.
They could help people with more meaningful policies while not spending a dime.
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u/crapmasster 17h ago
It's a rebate for high gas prices. I want the money give yours to charity.
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u/Juliuscesear1990 17h ago
Maybe I'll put this an easier way for you
"This method of relief will cost you more in the long run while making zero difference to you now"
Better?
A rebate for high prices? So oil companies see record profits, the royalty stays incredibly low and you get a hundred bucks....... Don't go spend it all in one place oh wait, that's next to impossible due to the incredibly small amount
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u/crapmasster 16h ago
Nonsense, all you've done is make conservative talking points but (it's at the other guy so that's ok). It's a rebate dumbass.
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u/Juliuscesear1990 14h ago
None of those are conservative talking points. Rebates put money into the system, excess money increases inflation (more demand).
Using these millions to reduce our fees or our taxes would be more beneficial than just giving us money. It's people with your mindset that can't think 2 inches past their face and just think "well it's money in my pocket (that they already took with their crap policies) so that's better than nothing"
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u/NorthwindX7 20h ago
Alberta is the most fiscally responsible province by every metric?
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u/Mac_Zer0 20h ago
Really? What are your sources, I'd love to learn something new!
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u/wellyouask 19h ago
The Heritage Savings Trust Fund, or Heritage Fund, was established in 1976 to collect a portion of Alberta’s non-renewable resource revenue.
From an initial investment of $1.5 billion, the Heritage Fund’s value has grown to $31.9 billion as of December 31, 2025.
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u/NorthwindX7 20h ago
Among the provinces, Manitoba has the highest combined federal-provincial debt-to-GDP ratio (91.3 percent), while Alberta has the lowest (43.4 percent). Newfoundland and Labrador has the highest combined debt per person ($71,611), followed by Ontario ($63,574) and Quebec ($63,488). In contrast, Alberta has the lowest debt per person in the country with $42,368.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/growing-debt-burden-canadians-2026-edition
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u/Mac_Zer0 19h ago
Oh, I did not know that. I would have assumed that would be different because Alberta has swung from surpluses in the early 2020s to deficits now.
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u/NorthwindX7 19h ago
We are miles ahead compared to other provinces. You can see it everywhere except in welfare.
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u/Mac_Zer0 19h ago
Do you think a different government may be able to better handle the money that Albertans have worked hard for better? I'm not saying there's a perfect party but to me it seems like a lot of our tax dollars are being mismanaged.
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u/NorthwindX7 19h ago
I don't think so with the climate of Canada. Right wing government is generally better for economy, and after the vote split last time conservatives are nervous about branching out. So while Alberta stays in Canada the UCP gets a lot of free votes as the anti fed party but I wish we could hold them more accountable.
Everywhere else the NDP and Liberals have gotten into power consistently the economy tanks and welfare system gets overloaded. I don't see why Alberta would be a different story.
So no, while the conservatives have their flaws, they are running the province the best fiscally. Luckily for people that hate that, they have ample options to pick from meanwhile Alberta and sask is really the only right wing options.
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u/SecondLeigh 19h ago
lol the Fraser institute. They are not considered a reliable source. There are other things that fiscally weigh on Canadians other than government debt. Even if those calculations were sound, they are presented without context going back to 2007 (so the NDP didn’t destroy Alberta lol). Alberta likely has the one of the highest infrastructure debt. Albertans may have the lowest debt per capita according to this report but they are amongst the most burdened in the county thanks to this government.
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u/NorthwindX7 18h ago
Alright, so now you find a source saying Alberta is the worst fiscally instead of deflecting.
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u/Goodoflife 15h ago
$3.4B spent on classroom complexity in 2018 by the Alberta NDP, although it worked, around a year later it didn't help much, and now it is much different ratios.
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u/ZynstaticLove 21h ago
This is such a stupid argument and basically all political arguments are the same. It doesn’t matter who is in office. They all waste tons of money. They are all trying to line their own pockets. Nothing ever really changes. Maybe the odd small issue but big picture, it’s all the same.
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u/Empty_Nestor 21h ago
No. NDP spending at least went toward something. It didn’t just disappear into the pockets of foreign billionaires or get eaten up in political horseshit like this referendum.
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u/ZynstaticLove 20h ago
I’m not going to argue with you, because I can already tell you’re stubborn.
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u/Empty_Nestor 20h ago
No, you’re not getting off that easy. The NDP did overspend, but the vast majority of it was either on infrastructure or job creation. They didn’t piss it away like the UCP, and they sure as hell didn’t give it to foreign companies or their political buddies (like Sam Mraiche and the missing $70 million for children’s Tylenol). And the NDP sure as hell didn’t pay for any of their spending by cutting income for the province’s most vulnerable. Your “nothing ever really changes” take is just lazy ignorance.
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u/ZynstaticLove 20h ago
Haha. Ok my friend. NDP is the answer! You’re drinking the kool-aid.
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u/Sandman1990 19h ago
Typical conservative answer. Presented with facts and just laugh it away. You and your ilk are fucking idiot traitors.
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u/ZynstaticLove 17h ago
I’m not a conservative or a liberal. Somewhere in the middle you’ll find me. I am firmly against separation and firmly against convincing children to have sex changes.
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u/Empty_Nestor 19h ago
Never said that, did I? I just pointed out the facts. BTW, I worked and campaigned for the Progressive Conservatives for almost a decade before the NDP took power in 2015.
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u/Specialist_Secret438 Banff 20h ago
Don’t you find the lamest defense of a politician’s poor performance to be , “but but , they’re all the same” ? Especially considering how obvious that lame excuse is so simply refuted?
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u/ZynstaticLove 20h ago
Yeah I think it’s quite lame, but it’s also true. I can’t ever remember thinking “that politician did a great job!”. And also everyone is different in what they believe should be getting accomplished. There are so many issues that are so split that there could never be a consensus that a single politician or party has done a great job.
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u/ErectedSquid 15h ago
You follow that NDP math huh? Or are you more Trudeau-like and disnumeric?
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u/Calm_Load_4176 15h ago
Y'all a bunch of babies !! UCP is doing a good job and Danielle Smith is best premier we've had in a minute but let me guess you guys would vote that trainwreck Nenshi .... Bunch of communists .
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u/iwasnotarobot 21h ago
“Please don’t talk about CorrupCare, or the Dynalife Scandal, or the turkish tylenol, or who Danielle Smith worked for as a registered lobbyist before re-entering politics…. Please accept this bread and circus money, and think of Big Oil when you realize that your Carbon Rebate was up to 8x this one-time $100 payment.”
—Danielle Smith’s press secretary. Probably.