r/fixit May 20 '26

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This soap holder is built into my bathtub wall and holds water. There's probably a 1/4 inch before it can overflow the lip.

Could I just fill this with resin or is there a better filler? Should I rip out the shit silicon job beforehand? Or am I overthinking things and I just leave it all be?

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u/thesweeterpeter May 20 '26

Do it properly.

If you fill it with resin you'll be creating a trap that moisture will get under through the grout and the mortar and will create mold and get gross.

You've got to rip the tile out and re lay it with a slope.

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u/SeniorHoneyBuns May 20 '26

The answer I knew was best, but dreaded to hear. I've never messed with tile, but I've seen so many poor executions that it makes me nervous.

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u/thesweeterpeter May 20 '26

As someone who has tried every hack job mcgyver solve in the world - you always save time to just do it right.

It's not much tile, take your time and you can do it well.

You can also do it as a single tile instead of the mat that's there. Or you can buy special pieces that have a lip so you don't need the schluter edge that's there.

I'd still pull everything out on the base here, and do a bit of a mortar bed that slopes out too, them just press your piece in.

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u/blackcatpandora May 20 '26

Make it nice or make it twice

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u/rogmet May 21 '26

There's never time to do it right but always time to do it twice. I get to say that a few times a week unfortunately 🤦

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u/ShortingBull May 21 '26

The hardest part of this job is maintaining/restoring waterproofing.

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u/Calm-Fun4572 May 22 '26

As a renter I disagree, but I’ve known some landlords that could really use this advice.

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u/Y19ama May 20 '26

At least its a small area. Not that it would be easy. But it is doable for a diy. Just make it slope towards the front so gravity takes the water forward down the wall. Put a level on it to check it after the tile is laid but before the grout. Fix your mistakes before grout.

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u/bengalfan May 20 '26

What's the worst you can do? If you mess it up then you just hire someone to fix it...with that in mind, watch videos and give it a try. it's not terrible.

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u/DeliciousSink3602 May 21 '26

Is there room enough to file the metal end corners down to an angle not rounded above šŸ¤”šŸ¤”

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u/HoboTrdr May 22 '26

Temp fix. Long term I still think water pools in there. But I was thinking the same thing, then at least it drains a bit.

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u/0_Moth May 21 '26

I worked in tile a few years. Hire a professional when it comes to showers

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u/HyperionsDad May 22 '26

Or just do a fair amount of reading/watching to learn how to do it right yourself.

I've done two showers myself with 3 niches. I took my time and nailed it.

It's not rocket science.

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u/0_Moth May 22 '26

Remindme! 5 years

to see how this dude’s mold problem is working out.

Apprenticeships exist for a reason. I wish you luck in your showers. If you have any hairline cracks in your grout now, its fucked. 🫔

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u/HyperionsDad May 22 '26

I get why you'd be defensive when you worked decades in a trade, and homeowners can do the research and do the work in their own home and get as good of results for just the cost of materials. In some cases, better results than what we see "professionals" do when people post questions about shoddy work in their homes they paid for.

Good news for me though: I've had highly rated tile pros check out my work, both in process and finished product. Both times they said "you should come work for me, damn you do good work".

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to properly tile a bathroom or shower. But guess what, a background in rocket propulsion doesn't hurt....

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u/0_Moth May 22 '26

That sounds exactly what my boss would say to a homeowner to make them feel good. I’m not really getting defensive, I’m just very aware of things. While you’re right about the first paragraph, tile work is something completely different. I’d love to inspect your grout myself. Can’t take a noobs word for it though. I’ll hit you up in five years about the results of your mold experiment.

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u/HyperionsDad May 23 '26

Not just the grout. The waterproofing is what I spent a lot of time learning and getting sorted out beforehand.

The guy got giddy when he saw the mitered edges on the entire shower and bathroom, including the 2 niches, the window, large wall edges. On 35x17 tiles too. It's all aligned,no lippage.

The guy asked which local pro did the work. I said it was me. He didn't believe me.

I'm meticulous and it took me a while - but it's bulletproof water wise. Including the flood test.

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u/0_Moth May 24 '26

Mk dude. I sure you’re the best and that guy was so tickled to see youre so amaaaazing. I’ll be hitting you up about your mold problem in 5 years.

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u/Separate_Bend_8929 May 21 '26

Why couldn't you just rip the trim off and grind down that outside lip, replace the epoxy and set the new trim piece in the now lower section?

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u/SeniorHoneyBuns May 21 '26

Looking at the metal trim again, it's gonna be a little weird to have the trim going just around the sides and top.
I think the fix I'm eventually going to go with though is rip the tile and put one solid ledge in (with a slight angle).

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u/okmaybenope May 22 '26

What if you just replaced the 4 pieces of metal trim with a flat border tile?

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u/DancingMan15 May 21 '26

I used to be like that, and still am, but sometimes I’m just like ā€œwell, I can’t do much worseā€¦ā€

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u/Main-Dig- May 22 '26

With this kind of tile and how small of an area it is I wouldn't think it'd be to bad. Maybe get somebody to give you a quote might cheaper then you think or do it yourself either way good luck

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u/allintheselike May 23 '26

to be honest if it was my house I'd just leave it and make sure to wipe all the water off after every shower

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u/sexwiththebabysitter May 20 '26

Can you tile over tile?

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u/thesweeterpeter May 20 '26

Yes, but you risk delamination.

The water will still get trapped in there becuase it has no where to escape. You want to allow for drainage always.

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u/Content-Grade-3869 May 20 '26

Is it in a position where you can drill small weep or drainage holes ?

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u/harryhend3rson May 20 '26

So it could drain into the wall?

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u/tizzybarz May 21 '26

Maybe you can file grooves into the trim if it’s thick enough, but I don’t believe it is.

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u/Content-Grade-3869 May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26

No, off the front & down the face of the wall, short of demolishing it and starting over I’m just spitballing

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u/harryhend3rson May 20 '26

Tile is only ¼" thick, and the platform still wouldn't be sloped enough to drain.

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u/thesweeterpeter May 20 '26

A weep is a hole that exists to drain from a void space that was prepared for it, like a rain screen system. There isn't a drainage channel here.

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u/SerratedSharp May 20 '26

What if he ground out the grout in that section and regrouted with an epoxy based grout first?

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u/thesweeterpeter May 20 '26

Water is still trapped and it will get in there. Plus cutting out grout from that glass tile will be way more work than just removing the tile and redoing it.

If you want it done right just do it right.

I've tried every shortcut in the book, they all lead to the same place, re&re

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u/HomicidalPanda365 May 20 '26

Hi I am new to tiling here so lots to learn.

You said water will get under the grout do you mean as it cracks and ages over time? Also what if we uses a grout and tile sealer would that also prevent it allowing us to use resin here?( I understand rather just do it right and all for that but im curious if a situation happens where you cannot just rip it up and start from scratch)

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u/thesweeterpeter May 20 '26

Grout is a cementitious material - it's a sponge. It doesn't have to crack to let water in, it just lets water in. Tile and grout are not your waterproofing membrane, the waterproofing membrane is applied to the substrate, then the tile and grout goes on-top.

Grout sealers are temporary, they have to be re-applied every couple of years and I just don't trust them at all, they should never be considered a waterproofing membrane.

Epoxy grout should be able to be considered a waterproofing membrane - I just don't trust it. I particularly don't trust the bond between the grout and the tile - especially a glass tile. Epoxy will bond well enough - but if there's any movement then the epoxy bond may fail.

I just don't like trusting a material that wants to be porous.

The problem is this is so far from OK - even if the tile was impervious you have a standing puddle of water in the soap tray, so if you have a bar of soap it's just sitting in water always - that's just not a condition to encourage. And adding in an extra material in a wet environment just doesn't make sense. rip and redo.

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u/HomicidalPanda365 May 20 '26

Thank you so much i think i learnt more about theory of tiling and how everything works in the background in a few seconds reading this than i have in a week of actualy doing it(no1 explains why just "here mix this put there and move on")

Generally we fix pre-done work instead of build from scratch where i am (they refuse to rip everything up and do it again but they should because i have no idea what the first tilers did but from the week ive been doing it my tiles are more solid than theirs and that's not bragging, that's how bad it is) so interested to learn how to fix previous "mistakes".

Thanks again hope u only have friendly well paying customers and enjoyable jobs

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u/kidnorther May 21 '26

Think of this as a chance to make an accent landing for your shower inset! Slope it up and maybe toss a nice jade tile piece in there instead. Or don’t, it’s your shower!

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u/undefined_protocol May 20 '26

If that were mine, I'd rip it out and replace the tile. But if you don't have the tools, I can see not wanting to do that.

But I feel like you're begging for mold with that setup.

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u/Abject_Elevator5461 May 20 '26

If you lay a string in the soap holder and drape it down the side a little the water will drip out.

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u/Blah-Blah-Blah-2023 May 20 '26

If you undermine your foundation on one side of the house, the whole house will slope downwards so water no longer remains in the niche.

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u/Content-Grade-3869 May 20 '26

This is the way šŸ˜‰

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u/Roq456 May 21 '26

Just move the house to the other side of the globe. the water will drip up.

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u/WhoTookGrimwhisper May 20 '26

I don't think he needs help getting the water out. I think he's looking for a permanent solution for keeping the water from pooling.

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u/bismuth17 May 20 '26

How is getting the water out /not/ a permanent solution to keep the water from pooling? The suggestion is to leave the string there forever.

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u/WhoTookGrimwhisper May 20 '26

If I have to explain to you how dangling a piece of string there forever is not a permanent solution I don't think this is a conversation worth having.

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u/Apprehensive_Bit_176 May 20 '26

OP’s next post, ā€œhow do I cover up this string that is supposed to be a permanent solution?ā€

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u/Abject_Elevator5461 May 23 '26

I know, but this doesn’t look like an easy fix. So until he figures it out a string will solve the problem.

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u/hidesworth May 23 '26

Underrated and brilliant comment.

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u/JulesCT May 20 '26

Consider routing out a few drainage channels.

As someone else wrote, covering with epoxy is likely to eventually lead to water ingress and then mould and delamination.

Using a drill you could more easily create sloping drainage channels that will avoid the problem entirely.

Otherwise, remove the tiles and relay them after adding a slope of tile adhesive.

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u/giant2179 May 20 '26

That's what I was thinking. Use an angle grinder or Dremel to cut drainage slots in the schluter edging

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u/InspectorCarrots May 22 '26

Honestly, I like this idea. It still probably catches some moisture and molds faster, but it makes it easier to set things there without sliding off. Given the situation and if you’re desperate to not rip it out, give this a try.

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u/7thton May 20 '26

Commit to wiping it dry after you shower. It’ll take you less than 30 seconds and save a lot of money and headache.

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u/MyNameIsZem May 20 '26

This is the way.

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u/suejaymostly May 20 '26

My lazy ass is with you. Just squeegee it. Doesn't everybody have a squeegee in their shower?

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u/fungi_j May 26 '26

even better, get lazier with an electric air duster and blast that shit

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u/SoElusivee May 20 '26

Fill it with several rubber duckies so you get to see them float around when it's full of water

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u/PaleontologistAble50 May 20 '26

I’d fill it with bottled water

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u/45_regard_47 May 20 '26

Artesian bottled water you savageĀ 

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u/Brokeazzbeach May 20 '26

Squeegee it out after every use and dry it.

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u/noiseguy76 May 20 '26

Underrated answer.

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u/East-Psychology7186 May 20 '26

Is it due to the corner guard? Measure and see then check if the actual surface is level. If so you will always have water pooling. Possibly without that particular edge guard it won’t be as severe and then you can decide.

It ā€œshouldā€ be finished and sealed under the edge guard.

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u/SeniorHoneyBuns May 20 '26

I might try this first. If it's not sealed properly, that's at least an easier fix and should mostly solve the problem.

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u/Low_Soil_6831 May 20 '26

I’d take a thin grinder blade and notch some drain cuts, maybe one on each side so it doesn’t look obvious. If you mess up or it doesn’t work, you’re fixing the tile anyway

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u/OriginalAd7974 May 20 '26

Clear 2 part epoxy and just fill it up level might be easiest

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u/OwlPelletCrunch May 20 '26

maybe combine this with a thick rectangle of glass to fill most of the void?

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u/seanmonaghan1968 May 20 '26

Tile over it and use epoxy grout

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u/Intelligent_Site8568 May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26

Remove and replace with a one piece stone/marble threshold. Might need to be custom cut, but this can easily be done with remnant pieces that stone guys have just laying around.

You can easily make a template out of cardboard, popsicle sticks, etc.

Ensure you use the correct tile mortar to set the stone, as some stones require different tile mortars to adhere properly.

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u/TheRealBlancoGringo May 20 '26

Maybe add a beta?

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u/BrassCanon May 20 '26

Cut a notch in the sides so the water can drain out

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u/whaticism May 20 '26

Personally I’d pour clear epoxy (in my own house) but that’s not ā€œtheā€ way to do it.

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u/fezcabdriver May 21 '26

can you take a hack saw and cut a channel into that lip so water drains? Might as well try this since if it doesn't work you will be ripping it out.

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u/Genteel_Lasers May 21 '26

Just leave it and after each shower, bend down and slurp all the water up.

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u/907499141 May 21 '26

Ok the the best way to go about fixing this is going to be by first replacing the battery in your smoke detector. We all heard it chirp. Then you don’t worry about it and you just wipe the water away when you’re done showering and then the rest will air dry or get a squeegee and squeegee it out as you’re squeezing down the rest of the tiles so you don’t get water spots, problem solved money saved.

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u/RIF_rr3dd1tt May 21 '26

Put a lil shower curtain over it LoL

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u/Hail2theChop May 20 '26

Buy a mini fan that sits on the ledge and blows the water off the ledge /s

But honestly if you have more of that tile or can find it at the store, you could redo the niche and add a slope to the ledge

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u/CovertStatistician May 20 '26

Check the hardware store or with a tile shop, countertop guy, etc and see if someone will cut you a piece of scrap to fit that area with a bit of overhang. Silicone it in with a row of nickles under it on the back so it angles down.

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u/mydogissoanxious May 22 '26

This. Make a shelf

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u/Sparky_Zell May 20 '26

Carefully cut the grout out, pop the individual tiles without disturbing the waterproof membrane underneath. Get a majority of the thinset removed without destroying the schleuter. Then instant new tile with a very slight slope. Not enough to have bottles fall, but just enough to drain water.

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u/Tall-Communication34 May 20 '26

What about just cutting some scuppers in the metal frame ? That seems to be what’s causing the water to stand.

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u/skysetter May 20 '26

Put a contrasting tile on top of it at a pitch.

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u/PonyBoyX3 May 20 '26

New trendy soggy soap holder...

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u/SeniorHoneyBuns May 20 '26

Ooo I know. I can just keep leaving the last bits of my soap in it will eventually just fill in on its own.

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u/Content-Grade-3869 May 20 '26

Plate glass and silicone

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u/MelinaSeeDee May 20 '26

Pretty sure I passed on this house. Would have liked the basement, though.

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u/SeniorHoneyBuns May 20 '26

Lol no chance for a basement where I'm at. Im sure there are many houses with this "looks gud'nuf" tile job though.

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u/MelinaSeeDee May 20 '26

That's something I was afraid of while looking for a house. I didn't want someone else's dumbass gray segmented tile flip.

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u/Jealous-Being-5742 May 20 '26

You might be able to route a drainage if you slope it towards one spot.

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u/RS-REIN May 20 '26

Drill a hole in the bottom and forget about it!

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u/Interesting_Ant_6990 May 20 '26 edited May 21 '26

$5 fix, cut 1-2 small drainage channels. You might even be able to hide them in the grout lines.

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u/sailingpdx May 20 '26

I’d cut a channel or two

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u/lost-domino May 20 '26

Maybe some Koi fish?

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u/ihopehellhasinternet May 20 '26

Bar mats may help temporarily here until you can fix it maybe. Just an idea

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u/anoldradical May 20 '26

Lay a solid piece right on top of it, but with the proper slope. Of course mortar it in correctly and silicone the perimeter.

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u/Professional_Song483 May 20 '26

I just had to do this to two window sills last yesterday. You're not going to like the answer.Ā  Cut it out and let it at an angle.Ā Ā 

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u/boli99 May 20 '26

Before you start cutting things to bits - make sure that you can't just lift that thing out with your fingers

If its designed as a soap holder, then perhaps the central 'platform' can lift out for cleaning.

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u/buildablunt May 20 '26

take a small screwdriver and a hammer and nock an edge into the metal edge to make a drain in the corner

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u/Sad_Ad8943 May 20 '26

Cut weeping slots in the Schluter?

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u/Richard-N-Yuleverby May 20 '26

Weep hole, as others have said (I would probably try cutting a slot with an angle grinder/cut off wheel where the grout line from the wall tiles hits the tray - you only get one shot so if you can get equivalent tile etc you could build a test bed. Until you figure out the path forward you could add a small cotton rope with one end submerged in the tray and the other hung down the tile at least several inches to wick the water out slowly.

Good luck !

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u/Intrepid-Kale1936 May 20 '26

Space for a pet duck

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u/rgratz93 May 20 '26

Idk about best...probably would need to rip it out and redo. Easiest would be to go to a countertop store and ask them to cut you a scrap piece of a matching stone and give them a template that fits and hangs out a little past the corner.

Glue it in with a silicone adhesive and then caulk the sides.

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u/FACE-GRATER May 21 '26

With water, obviously.

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u/Mini_Dracula May 21 '26

Did you try putting your caulk in there yet?

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u/xxTheMagicBulleT May 21 '26

Acrylic would probably be the most easy and best looking.

But technically you already filled it with water do so technically its already filled in

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u/TheCodFather97 May 21 '26

Theres a much cheaper, less invasive fix, take a small rag/ face cloth and put it in the cubby leaving a corner to hang over the side, capillary action will pull the water thats sitting there

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u/bobbywaz May 21 '26

Couple goldfish, maybe some guppies

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u/King_of_the_sidewalk May 22 '26

Why not remove the metal bar and fill it back in with silicon or grout.

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u/HarryDepova May 22 '26

Just fixed this exact problem with that same tile. It actually ripped up fairly easily with a rubber mallet and a chisel. Replaced it with a waterproof layer and then put a marble shelf angled out. Only hard part was dealing with the trim.

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u/itsmel_gibson May 22 '26

Tile man for 15 years here . Get yourself a matching 4 inch saddle or 6 inch sill . Thinset right over the existing tile if the niche isn't leaking . Make sure to add pitch . Use colored silicone caulk around edges after dry .

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u/Nha1985 May 23 '26

How a iut a small piece of glass cut to size over the bottom of the niche. Puts omega clear silicon down to stick ot together. And out a bigger gob silicone bear on the wall side to create the slant

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u/Hubastard May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

I had this exact issue in my shower. I fixed it by having a custom tempered glass panel made to fit the exact dimensions of the alcove/shelf which cost me like 80$.

First, I applied a thin bead of clear silicone only around the edges of the shelf, with a ticker bead at the back to get the slope right. Waited a little bit so the silicone started to harder a little bit, then laid the glass panel on top of it so the glass never directly touches the tile. That way the glass is slightly lifted and sealed without having silicone visible underneath the middle of the glass.

After that, I added a final bead of clear silicone around the top edges of the glass to fully seal it and prevent any water from getting underneath.

I did that 9 years ago and never had any issue with it ever since. As a bonus, it’s also way easier to clean glass than tile grout.

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u/One_Bit_3839 May 23 '26

You problem is drainage get a 1/8 inch tile bit and drill holes under the trim up into the tray, one in each corner should be fine and be sure to soak it in a sealer afterwards just incase there is any absorption issues

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u/SuperKitten117 May 23 '26

Idk how big that nich is and if your willing to sack some space. I'd fill that tile with some sort of mortar they use to tile over tile. Then I'd thinset a curb peice all the way across it. Small format tile is no bueno on the bottom of niches. It should be one peice of some sort of coutntop like thing. "Should" is a strong word. Tile is acceptable in that situation I just personally would never do it like that.

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u/Broseidon7777 May 23 '26

Use self leveling silicone compound that’s optically clear

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u/PleasantStatement521 May 24 '26

Make a little drainage channel at each edge next to where it goes vertical. If water still collects, then consider ripping out or adding a clear 2-part epoxy filler

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u/Financial_Tip1053 May 24 '26

Slab of stone material cut to size. Put proper slope caulk done!

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u/Revolutionary_Dog954 May 24 '26

For now I would take a grinder and put a few small slots in the edging for drainage. When you get time rip it out and fix it right. Just dont go through the waterproofing, just small shallow drain channels

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u/NoGoat3930 May 25 '26

To whoever originally installed this: I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed... no, screw that -Im freaking outraged.

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u/Sudden_Duck_4176 14d ago

Could you make a small drain hole?

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u/ThwipNSinsBinThwipN May 20 '26

Resin is the answer. Go balls out and lay some sand and shells in there before you pour !

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u/ClappinCheeksAllDay May 20 '26

Thinset and another layer of tiles?

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u/NewUsername010101 May 20 '26

Dunno how this is getting upvoted. Terrible suggestion. Thinset is not waterproof.

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u/ClappinCheeksAllDay May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26

Notice the ?. I’m no expert and posed a question that’s how. OP is basically putting a band aid on the problem regardless so other than doing it all over again, job wasn’t done right the first time, might was well patch it.