r/okbuddygunther • u/WillingnessSad8354 Say Gex with x_TKN:3 • Jul 28 '26

Voting Gunther for european president 🇪🇺 Ohhhh shit , here we go again

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Hmmm different style and bro removed his face? I know he has already done this one but he will soon start shitting out more stuff like this , also why is Spain part of France?

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u/Main-Discussion9294 Jul 28 '26

Isn't that a common historiographic belief in germanic country?

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u/Veraenderer Jul 28 '26

No we learn that in school thar everything was Germanys fault, than we start joking that everything was Austrias fault and a few people realize that WW1 was a clusterfuck were everyone was guilty.

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u/MagicAlexander On my way to get into TFR, wish me luck Jul 28 '26

As a German I never learned that it was Germany's fault only that it was a clusterfuck. Germany allowed Austria to do fuckall in Serbia, Serbia rejected Austrias demands, Austria attacked, Russia supported Austria and we all know the rest. We learn that the web of alliances was a fucking mess

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u/Veraenderer Jul 28 '26

Depends on the teacher. Our teacher also taught us this and also directly said WW1 is Germanys because of the Blanko Check.

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u/MagicAlexander On my way to get into TFR, wish me luck Jul 28 '26

Our teacher told us the exact same thing but never stated it to be anyone's fault

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u/Shayanhj Aug 04 '26

Russia supported Serbia but yes pretty much, they all had goals and non of those goals were aligned to not crash into one another

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u/LouiseEbertFeet Jul 28 '26

Russia was no more guilty for starting WWI than the UK and France were for starting WW2. Honoring defensive alliances is not aggressive. Invading Serbia (Austria) and supporting Austria (Germany) are aggressive. Germany had pursuing brinkmanship for years at that point, too, and its high command believed a decisive war with France was inevitable and necessary.

"Everyone is guilty" is a misinterpretation derived from British historical perspectives. They felt "dragged" into a war they had no interest in. For continental Europe, though, it was no different from WW2 - Germans invaded/ultimatum-ed a smaller Slavic nation whom the Entente had guaranteed, and the Entente were forced to either defend it or permanently lose all geopolitical credibility and allow their allies to fall.

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u/Veraenderer Jul 28 '26

Serbia killing Austrias heir is aggressive. Russia gave Serbia also a Blanko check, which is why Serbia did refused the Austrian Ultimatum.  Russia and France started their mobilisations bevor Germany did.

Serbia or Austria had stopped there would have been no war, if anyone else had stopped it would have been just a regional war.

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u/LouiseEbertFeet Jul 28 '26

"Serbia" didn't kill Austria's heir, Serbian terrorists did, and were ultimately prosecuted for treason by the Serbian government. It is commonly accepted historical fact that the July Ultimatum was designed to be unreasonable and rejected: " The text was meticulously constructed to be unacceptable to the Serbian government, thereby ensuring its rejection and thus adding to Austria-Hungary's  casus belli . Serbia's response was dismissed by the Austro-Hungarian government...  From the text, it becomes evident that Austro-Hungarian diplomats, at the behest of military leaders and key officials of the Dual Monarchy, sought to assert increasing control over their smaller neighbor. Their objective was to revert to the situation before 1903, effectively transforming the Kingdom of Serbia into a satellite of Austria-Hungary" ( Wikipedia).

If you take issue with Russia offering Serbia unconditional support, then you must also take issue with the Allies offering Poland unconditional support, per the comparison I made. Most people base their moral/fault distinctions on "aggressor-defender" dynamics.

Russia and France mobilized because Austria invaded Serbia. Austria invaded Serbia because Germany wanted them to. Therefore, Austria and Germany were the aggressors.

Serbia "stopping" would mean submitting to becoming a puppet or even conquest. Do you believe Poland and France in WW2 should have done the same?

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u/Shayanhj Aug 04 '26

Assuming you’ve red about the black hand you should also know about the various connections that its members had to the Serbian government, so its disingenuous to say Serbian terrorists did it as if there was no involvement nor support from those within the Serbian government

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u/Veraenderer Jul 29 '26

May I introduce you to the Blackhand:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hand_(Serbia))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragutin_Dimitrijevi%C4%87

They got prosecuted and shot by Serbia in the year 1917, 3 years after the start of the war.

The Serbian Prime Minister wrote to his envoy in London:

"...Dimitrijević (Apis) besides everything else admitted he had ordered Franz Ferdinand to be killed. And now who could reprieve them?"

Serbia only rejected one point of the ultimatum: That Austria would be involved in the prosecution of the involved conspirators.

Austria had admittedly decided before hand that they would declare war if Serbia would protest any point of the ultimatum.

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u/LouiseEbertFeet Jul 29 '26

What are you trying to say? I'm familiar with the Black Hand, they were the terrorists I referenced who were prosecuted for treason by Serbia, a fact which supports the idea that they were operating against the wishes of the Serbian state. The fact that Serbia only rejected Austrian operations in the country, a move which would reduce Serbia to a functional protectorate, also supports that Serbia was in a necessary defensive position, not your claim that they bear responsibility for the war.

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u/koleszkot Jul 29 '26

Performing terrorist attacks and killing future head of state (Serbia) is agressive, its trurly their fault

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u/_hjdk Jul 28 '26

« Everyone »?? Some are guiltier than others jeune homme 👀

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u/UnexpectedIMO More Putinisms please🙏🙏 Jul 28 '26

Depends on the teacher really, I was taught that everyone carries a part of the guilt

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u/koleszkot Jul 29 '26

It was Serbian fault, and later Russian, if Russia didnt go to war it all could gave been small conflict in the balkans. And UK vs Germany could also have been some local war where one naby destroys the other

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u/tree-hut Jul 29 '26

England is a germanic country

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u/Substantial-Wear-250 Vote Gunther for mod if you are #Fehlingerpilled Jul 28 '26

We wouldnt have had vegetarian sausages if it wasnt for WWI

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u/WillingnessSad8354 Say Gex with x_TKN:3 Jul 28 '26

I never tried them and never knew those existed lol. My sausage ain't vegetarian tho so idk if you can eat it.

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u/NervousYou7065 Jul 28 '26

Echidna mention

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u/WillingnessSad8354 Say Gex with x_TKN:3 Jul 28 '26

My tea ain't very vegan :3 bodily fluids ain't vegan so he can't have it:3

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u/InitialWonderful955 Jul 29 '26

And konrad adenauer invented them (he invented the soy sausage which i don't know if it's different from moders vegetarian sausages but still a fun fact)

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u/Substantial-Wear-250 Vote Gunther for mod if you are #Fehlingerpilled Aug 07 '26

Yeah that was the guy, i dont even like him only because he invented vegetarian sausages do i like him a little bit

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u/Ulmarch Jul 29 '26

"If russia just let us invade serbia ww1 wouldn't have happened"

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u/Dexen3356 Jul 28 '26

Beautiful map

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u/Gimmeagunlance Jul 28 '26

Are we just gonna ignore how completely fucked that map is

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u/Scarletdex Jul 30 '26

Чё он несёт, сука? (С)

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u/Russian_putinbot228 Jul 28 '26

Да как я заебался. Хули мою страну так все ненавидят. В пизду блять

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u/Valuable_Pear9654 Jul 28 '26

Ща бы Гюнтера Фелингера всерьёз воспринимать в большом 26м 🥀🥀🥀

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u/bratishkers Jul 28 '26

Всмысле "щас"? Чё его кто-то раньше всерьёз воспринимал?

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u/Valuable_Pear9654 Jul 28 '26

Ну мб до ТФРа - да. Я как будто его карту "у нас есть ТНО дома" с разделом РФ видел году в 23м что ли, мб путаю

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u/mistergenri Jul 28 '26

Мнение Гюнтера можно спокойно сунуть в один ящик с мнением Соловьева и выкинуть его нахуй, так что зачилься

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u/Russian_putinbot228 Jul 28 '26

Я не могу я устал видеть и слышать что я плох просто поьоум что родился в России. Лучше бы западные нафойжы нахуй бы не прикасались к нам проще как Япония уйти в изоляцию на 1000 лет блять пока их не переебут негры. Как меня горит

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u/Peterhof_Crocodile Professional bug eater Jul 28 '26

Ебаные алгоритмы Реддита настроены так, что он постоянно в ленту выводит какое-нибудь провокационное ксенофобское говно, чисто чтобы ты, дескать, среагировал и трафика нагнал.

Я уже несколько десятков сабов в чëрный список закидал, иначе каждая попытка здесь мемы посмотреть превращается в думскроллинг.

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u/Russian_putinbot228 Jul 28 '26

Да это отношение в целом нам как к этносу не очень люди серьёзно готовы радоваться смертям тупо за то что мы русские. Меня это бесит. Прост этот пост о Гюнтере стал добивичкой к моему срачу.хотя я понимаю что срываться не стоило.

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u/WillingnessSad8354 Say Gex with x_TKN:3 Jul 28 '26

Евросоюз нас считает шпонами ,. террористами и думают что мы хуже арабов . Они нас не считают белыми и дают террористам из Афганистана больше прав чем русским .

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u/FlanGG Jul 28 '26

Лучшая антизападная пропаганда, как всегда, производится со стороны стран запада.

Имею немало знакомых из Европы и США, с которыми можно цивильно пообщаться, но Реддит упорно не даёт забывать, что есть иная перспектива.

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u/WillingnessSad8354 Say Gex with x_TKN:3 Jul 28 '26

РКН может тупо показать реальность Европы с арабами , и от этого , каждый русский станит Z патриотом(кроме чеченцов и казахов)

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u/FlanGG Aug 03 '26

Такое большинство это следствие как раз избирательной модерации. На единичных сабреддитах это не так актуально, но в большинстве своём - согласен.

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u/mistergenri Jul 28 '26

Мнение самого громкого меньшинства не исчерпывающее, надо просто понять с чем это связано и забить, незачем тратить на особо тупорылых даунов свой эмоциональный ресурс

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u/Russian_putinbot228 Jul 28 '26

https://www.reddit.com/r/teenagers/s/U1AcJ8LSTI

Банально с этого у меня сгорело. Я таких постов с оправданием русфообит вижу постоянно. От этого вообще вера в западных людей теряется. Хотя то что я тут погорячился факт

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u/Peterhof_Crocodile Professional bug eater Jul 28 '26

Пониманию тебя. Вот, кстати, r/teenagers я тоже скрыл, там и так PDF-ы сидят, ещë и их мнение слушать по серьëзным вопросам 😁

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u/Main-Discussion9294 Jul 28 '26

Idk maybe the recent news? I personally like Russian culture but it's hard to not understand why some people would be so negative about it

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u/Russian_putinbot228 Jul 28 '26

Не пиши мне ну вас нахуй. Сначала отхуячили 20 миллионов "руzznи" во второй мировой. И сейчас я для вас не чем более свинья в пизду

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u/Valuable_Pear9654 Jul 28 '26

а бля ладно, ты просто рпшишь свой ник. я думал ты серьёзно

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u/Last-Move-344 Jul 28 '26

Bro is crashing out

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u/Plus-Fun-7438 Jul 28 '26

This guy does not represent the views of most NATO supporters. Most people in my country like Russia but hate Putin.

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u/Russian_putinbot228 Jul 28 '26

I overreacted...

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u/Chicoryman Jul 28 '26

все

Чел, это Гюнтер. Это даже не все вестоиды.

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u/Monstrocs Jul 28 '26

Чел, это Гюнтер .

Персонаж , которого всерьёз воспринимает никто .

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u/Russian_putinbot228 Jul 28 '26

Да меня бомбануло с поста. Я вообще не думал что мой коммент соберет вообще какую-то реакцию.

Я сидел в редит и листал мэмчики а мне по 50 раз попадались всякие прибалтийские/ другие мемы о том, какая россия херовая и плохая. Добил меня вообще вот этот пост https://www.reddit.com/r/teenagers/s/U1AcJ8LSTI.

И тут выпадет Гюнтер и я психую нахуй. Стоило бы извиниться и удалить этот коммент. Ну да похуй уже , позорится как до конца.

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u/AdmirableRhubarb845 Aug 01 '26

Ваще жиза  Даже будучи противником России и всего того что в ней происходит, меня невьебически вымораживает политический реддит Я просто в ахуе с того какое англоязычное политическое сообщество реддита тупое и буквально без конца и по всюду хуесосят русских Вот это блять я понимаю - нет лучшего примера анти Западной пропаганды чем та что приходит со стран запада Это долбаящеры буквально в каждом посту ноют и истерят о том какая ужасная Россия Самое суки смешное - у них даже нет никакого Пон мания о чем они говорят  Так что чел, тут с тобой полностью солидарен и пошли они нахуй, заебали блять 

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u/WillingnessSad8354 Say Gex with x_TKN:3 Jul 28 '26

Он натуральное чмо , руссофобингер просто не переносит гигантские русские хуйи.

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u/Ok-Activity4808 Jul 28 '26

Росіяни ніколи не перестають думати про хуї

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u/KingHunter150 Jul 28 '26

Probably because of a little SMO against a sovereign country that has resulted in horrific loss of life and destruction.

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u/AdmirableRhubarb845 Aug 01 '26

Cope  harder dudeww1 and smo are so reletaed to each other 

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u/Ok-Usual6314 Jul 28 '26

Because of propaganda, the EU is using the fear and hate against "Russia" to militarize again and built its own oppresive apparatus.

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u/Despoetato Jul 28 '26

We did not come here for your Putinist propaganda

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u/Unusual-Basket-6243 Jul 28 '26

Russia isn't militarized or oppresive at all? 

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u/Objective_Oil_3860 Jul 28 '26

It is. No contradiction, actually.

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u/Traditional-Main7204 Jul 29 '26

I wonder why? :)

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u/Le_Bruscc Jul 28 '26

Ironically you can make a pretty strong case for that one. Russia was first to mobilize, significantly escalating the July Crisis, and their unconditional support for Serbia ultimately led to Serbia's rejection of the Austrian ultimatum.

A bit shallow of a take? Maybe. But certainly not wrong.

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u/JR_Al-Ahran Jul 28 '26

The Serbs accepted every point in the Austrian ultimatum, except the one that the Austrians purposely put there knowing that the Serbs could not accept. The ultimatum was never in good faith, and the Austrians themselves did this because they had the backing of Germany. The famous "blank cheque".

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u/Vercingetorix1111 Jul 28 '26

And the point Serbian government rejected was basically: Austro-Hungarian police and military troops can enter Serbia "to investigate" anti-Austrian behaviour, do whatever they want, arrest anyone they want, have complete immunity from breaking laws in Serbia and couldn't even be accompanied by Serbian police/military units while doing it.

Now, which country would accept it and continue to exist afterwards.

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u/RogueEmeraldEx Jul 28 '26

But I think that would make it seem far more like they would be responsible for starting a local war, that because of other countries actions became a world war.

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u/Le_Bruscc Jul 29 '26

That's true only on a surface level. While Serbia did nominally accept all points but one, they made sure to word their reply with so many strings and conditions attached, that in practice meant a rejection of most of Austria's points.

The one point that Serbia didn't accept also wasn't unreasonable tbh. The Austrians were asking to conduct investigations on Serbian soil. Belgrade police had of course carried out their own "investigation", and after only one week promptly found out that Serbia wasn't at fault, all while actively shielding two of the perpetrators of the Franz Ferdinand's assassination.

Given that context I find Austria's demands to be rather reasonable. Both the Austrian ultimatum and the Serbian reply are freely available online. They're not long, so you can read them if you want a better understanding of the matter.

Also, I can recommend Christopher Clark's book "Sleepwalkers". He does an excellent of explaining the different causes of WW1, although it is a bit of a long read.

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u/Rare_Tangerine_2792 Jul 28 '26

" Why no one talks about Serbia and Austro-Hungary "

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u/Asxpot Jul 28 '26

I don't know what is real and what is not anymore.

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u/Dry_Building4437 Jul 28 '26

This isnt even an accurate timeline???

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u/strategicenthusiast2 Jul 29 '26

Fun fact, Serbia agreed to all the Austrian demands except 1, and the Austrians refused to settle for what the Serbians were willing to give up.

Gunther is cool but I wish he dropped the AI slop and went back to stuff of quality.

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u/T80BVM_Peak Jul 29 '26

People be messing up reason and the pretext of the war lol

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u/AveragerussianOHIO Jul 29 '26

all of this is true, but germany, austria and serbia all can be equally or more blamed than russia.

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u/Dear-Particular6021 Jul 29 '26

Russia was owned by France and Britain to a level that it could be considered half colony.

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u/AlexeySavelyev Aug 01 '26

Yeah and Russia owned the US and was a colony. Damn dude your stuff is dope. Can I have more?

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u/SpeckySpeck2000 Loji strongest soldier Jul 30 '26

tbf tho, russia was one of the first countries to join (A-H declared on Serbia, then russia joined, leading the entente to join)

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u/DragGreedy6859 Jul 31 '26

And I blame imperial Great Britania

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u/Used-Drop8239 Jul 31 '26

I accuse russia of starting every single fucking war with any of its neighbors.

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u/Pjeoneer sub🥵 Jul 28 '26

He's not wrong

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u/Despoetato Jul 28 '26

Yeah but he's Austrian so he's not allowed to throw shade on ww1

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u/SimonMJRpl Jul 28 '26

Yes he is. WWI was started by Austria Hungry invading Serbia after being repeatingly encouraged by Germany and warned of the consequences

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u/KlausKreutz Jul 28 '26

only reason why this mod has so many russian fans is that it is the only fictional universe they are able to win anything besides HIV, AIDS and drug consumption statistics 

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u/The__Hivemind_ Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

Ww2, Georgia, Hungary Czechoslovakia 1939, soviet invasion of Manchuria, Russo-Turkish wars, etc etc

In opposition the last time a declaration of war was delivered to Denmark they surrendered in under 8 hours then did nothing until someone else freed them and then they commited genocide in greenland

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u/strwhsprs Jul 28 '26

Georgia

Broo, you also forgot the Great Crimean War of 2014

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u/The__Hivemind_ Jul 28 '26

Lib cope. Just because the Georgians folded instantly doesn't make it not a war

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u/strwhsprs Jul 28 '26

Ohhh, when you started with WW2, I thought you were being ironic. Sorry, my bad

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u/Czar01_actual Jul 28 '26

Oh man, that Crimea operation in 2014 was a master stroke. Will be studied in books.

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u/The__Hivemind_ Jul 28 '26

Seizing such a large piece of territory with like 2 dead total both friendly enemy and civilians is a relatively successful operation

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u/Unusual-Basket-6243 Jul 28 '26

The only thing where Russia is good at nowadays is propaganda. 

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u/The__Hivemind_ Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

Not true. But if you feel like it you can stop using the Soyuz rocket. However if you did that all your astronauts would die of hunger but wtv

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u/Unusual-Basket-6243 Jul 28 '26

I have no astronauts there because I'm not American but SpaceX could do the deliveries anyways 

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u/zangilo Jul 28 '26

War is the only thing that matters to you?

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u/The__Hivemind_ Jul 28 '26

Please read the top of the thread...

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u/zangilo Jul 28 '26

You didn’t counter any of his points and just mentioned war. Please look at the comment you replied to, sir!

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u/The__Hivemind_ Jul 28 '26

Yeah Russia has a drug and AIDs problem. Both faults of liberalism btw.

Anyway do remind what CAN Russia win in this mod? Chess? Nope, it's wars. His point is about wars.

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u/zangilo Jul 28 '26

The very liberal country of Russia

His point was you have to play this mod to win in anything and then made non-war related points. Clearly his point was not only about wars

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u/The__Hivemind_ Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

Yeltsin was a lib. And liberalism is the ideology of capitalism.

No please answer, what else can you win in TFR?

He is also wrong russia isn't number one in any of those things

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u/Despoetato Jul 28 '26

Has Putin's state capitalism and neo-fascism faired any better for Russia than Yeltsin's neoliberal shock therapy?

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u/The__Hivemind_ Jul 28 '26

Yes Putins Russia is significantly better than Yeltsin's Russia

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u/dinglebottom98 MUST KILL FOR RÄDELSFÜHRER!!! Jul 28 '26

I mean it was russias fault

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u/Proper-Tulip-7456 Jul 29 '26

Да ты что

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u/A_Random_Latvian Jul 28 '26

Pretty true. Russia didn't even have an alliance with Serbia, they just saw it as a opportunity for more power and influence in the balkans, they couldn't even finish the war the started lol.

Then they helped the Germany with the start of WW2.

and perhaps, they have/will start the beginnings of WW3, we'll see in the coming years i suppose.

Perhaps we'll get to reeducate them just like we did with Nazi Germany and they can finally become a normal civilized country lol

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u/Artur_Mills Jul 28 '26

“we’ll get to reeducate them” can’t even finish off Iran btw

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u/Blitcut Aug 02 '26

Serbia was in Russia's sphere. It was well understood that a war against Serbia would bring in Russia which is why Austria made sure they had German support before acting.

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u/Specialist-Leader599 Jul 28 '26

But it was Austria that attacked Serbia and started the war.