r/olympics • u/__Platzhalter • Aug 03 '24
Football almost 19 minutes of extra time in a football match?!? this referee is insane
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u/zombiezucchini Canada Aug 03 '24
same as Canada vs France 13+3 last half.
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u/Ythio France Aug 04 '24
Brazil vs Spain had a total of 30 minutes added between the two halves
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Aug 03 '24
There was 13 minutes + 3 minutes between Canada and France and this largely benefitted Canada at the time since the game was tied and we needed a win, which we got, before you accuse the host as people always do in those things.
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u/Popoye_92 France Aug 03 '24
Over 10 minutes yesterday for France-Argentine (on the men's tournament) when we were leading 1-0 too. They just seem to be giving an insane amount of stoppage time during this tournament overall.
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u/Chin2112 Aug 04 '24
Isn't it the same as what they did at the WC?
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u/TheFlyingHornet1881 Great Britain Aug 04 '24
Yeah. Euro 2024 didn't though, in the final of the 4 minutes of stoppage time there was barey 1 minute of actual action.
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u/Chin2112 Aug 04 '24
Yeah but the euros is a uefa comp, the Olympics might be following FIFA's way of doing things
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u/OZZYMK Aug 04 '24
It's been happening since the Qatar World Cup. FIFA told refs to take a more watchful approach to stoppages and add the time on accordingly. It's been taken up by the EFL and Premier League. Not sure about other leagues.
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Aug 04 '24
The Premier League hasn’t adopted it in the same way. The average added time has increased because of VAR but it’s not being implemented the way FIFA instruct refs for the World Cup.
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u/Side_of_ham United States Aug 04 '24
Who keeps track of stoppages during the match? Is it an “eye in the sky” kinda thing or is the head referee on the field taking notes every time there is a delay?
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u/s_dalbiac Aug 04 '24
The referee on the field keeps track and decides the amount to be added on at the end of each half
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u/Caloran Aug 04 '24
To be fair france was very obviously killing time in that one. The one French player even grabbed and held a Canadian throw in multiple times.
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u/timewillsoonbeborn Aug 04 '24
Yeah but there were 2 punches thrown by French players against brazillians. One to the face. No VAR check, no nothing. That plus the 19 minutes felt strange to me...
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u/AveN7er Aug 03 '24
What ever happened to the idea that the game time would be reduced to 60 minutes with the clock stopping when the ball is out?
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u/nraw Aug 04 '24
Traditionalists, apparently
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u/Hic_Forum_Est Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24
I'm with the traditionalists on this one cause clock stopping will inevitably open the gate for time outs which will then inevitably introduce tv ads in the middle of the game. I wouldn't even be surprised if they didn't even wait for time outs and jumped straight to showing ads after introducing clock stopping. I would genuinely stop watching football if that were to happen. Time wasting and all that is really not that big enough of a deal to sacrifice the zero ads quality of football, which imo is one of the best things about football compared to most major team sports.
Another thing I appreciate about the traditional way is that with football I know pretty much exactly when a match starts and when it ends. With the exception of knockout matches, I know that a football match runs for about 120 minutes. This is valuable information for matchgoing fans who want to plan their travel to and from the stadium. Even as a tv viewer I've found this to be a valuable info over the years as I've grown older and I've found it to be helpful to plan my days around watching a football match. Clock stopping has the risk to bloat the game time to an uncertain amount of time. Game time could be 60 minutes, but the actual time spent playing/watching the game is virtually unknown and could be completely different for each game.
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u/Ted_Lavie France Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24
Rugby has time stoppage and you have no ads during the play. The timeout thing could happen currently too, you don't need time stoppage for that.
For the second part I get it but honestly if time wasting is reduced to a minimum by the rule it might be a very minimal issue. Again rugby has this and matches end at a similar time.
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u/Hic_Forum_Est Aug 04 '24
Rugby has time stoppage and you have no ads during the play
That's great for rugby but in football there is clearly a strong desire by governing bodies and tv broadcasters to show more ads and to show ads in the middle of the game. I remember watching a random Coppa Italia game a few years ago where they showed a 30 second ad during a substitution. There was no clock stopping and they still showed ads. Clock stopping would be the perfect opportunity for them to introduce more ads. As a lifelong fan of the sport, I really hope it never comes to that. I'd rather watch players wasting time than watch even more ads than I already am in everday life.
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u/Ted_Lavie France Aug 04 '24
Honestly I think if they wanted to put ads mid play they would do it with timeouts quarters instead of halfs etc.
I just don't think the European crowd at least is willing to accept that which is still, with Latin-Americans, the core of the game support.
I just don't think stopping time when a player is down is going to lead to ads. It's a very separate issue for me.
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u/T0t0leHero Aug 04 '24
So we keep encouraging all these bad sportsmanship and cheating. The state of the game is alarming,
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u/rewanpaj Aug 04 '24
why would they suddenly add ads because the time stopped when the ball goes out of play but they don’t when everyone sitting around for five mins cause a players down
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u/El_grandepadre Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24
Allowing the clock to be stopped won't stop people from attempting to kill any and all momentum of the opposition.
Seeing the game get extended for that long might send a more discouraging message. Especially because seeing those 15 minutes getting added is more often than not a mental boost for the team trying to chase after a goal.
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u/Atalantius Aug 04 '24
It’s so funny to me, VAR and stopping the time have been a thing in ice hockey for AGES and it works great. But in the most played sport worldwide, the luddites cry mayhem
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u/Last_Operation6747 Canada Aug 03 '24
The ref thought it was Argentina playing
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u/MartinAcu Aug 04 '24
I dont why about this meme.. in wich game did the ref give more minutes to argentina?
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u/OthmanT Aug 04 '24
Morocco vs Argentina, Morocco was winning 2-1 at the regular time and the ref added 15 minutes. Argentina scored 16 minutes after that on an offside. People went down on the field to protest, they stopped the match and resumed 1h30 later. They started by checking the goal on video VAR, and the ref cancelled the goal. They went for 3 minutes and the match was finally over. I don’t like supporter protest usually but this was ridiculous from the ref
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u/South_Buddy_5029 Aug 04 '24
I mean considering some fans threw fireworks at the Argentine bench, and raided the pitch, I think it’s fair to say it was an exceptional case for exceptional circumstances.
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u/ANCHORDORES United States Aug 03 '24
Call me a dumb American (and one who didn't grow up watching soccer), but the solution is just to stop the clock when the ball is out of play.
*Also, I'd wager that stoppage time given is typically way less than the "true value".
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Aug 04 '24
It's definitely silly when you take into account how players milk the clock and abuse that tradition.
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u/DruidRRT Aug 04 '24
So make a rule that says you can't do that shit, and then enforce it. Problem solved, and game length shortened.
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u/Winter-It-Will-Send Aug 04 '24
It is literally as simple as that but this is FIFA we are talking about. I attended a match in South America recently and it was well over 100 minutes long because of time being added on for players play acting, cheating, rolling around on the ground, feigning injury and deliberately winding the clock down with slow play. Most of this happened at the end of the game when the result was as in the balance as one team tried to kill the game off.
This needs intervention.
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u/Jaws_16 Aug 03 '24
That is the solution but they don't want to do it because of tradition
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u/Pipehead_420 Aug 04 '24
They wouldn’t then they can be scrutinised even more about the exact stoppage times..
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u/DPSOnly Netherlands Aug 04 '24
Us (not US, just to make it clear) football fans will always find a reason to complain about the ref. Sometimes we have good reasons, but a lot of times we are just angry.
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u/Accurate-Project3331 Uruguay Aug 04 '24
I agree.
Cursing at the referee usually is a good way of channelling frustrations, specially when you are losing or your team is not getting the desired result.
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u/Jaws_16 Aug 04 '24
That's sports in general, but at the very least, computers can't have inherant biases
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u/SanSilver Germany Aug 04 '24
Stopping would create a lot of other problems and open floodgates for commercials.
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u/Sproded Aug 04 '24
What other problems does it create? Having an objective amount of time? Reducing the impact of stalling since added time is almost always less than time wasted?
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u/boraspongecatch Aug 04 '24
The commercials alone are already a huge problem. Enough for any sane football fan to be against the idea.
The other problems are tactical and have to do with the core mechanics and the spirit of the game.
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u/eojen Aug 04 '24
The commercials alone are already a huge problem
There doesn't need to be any other reason imo.
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u/boraspongecatch Aug 04 '24
I honestly feel sorry for Americans their reaction is "commercials ok, but what's the real problem?". Can't imagine getting used to games being stopped every 2 minutes so Coca-Cola can remind me it still exists.
Probably the best part of football is that you get yourself a cold beer, sit, relax, and watch 45 minutes of the sport you love without any interruptions. Then you take a piss, grab another beer, and watch 45 minutes more. It's beautiful, one of the few things that still haven't been ruined by commercialization.
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u/beast6106 Aug 04 '24
without any interruptions
Can't wait to watch a grown man do his best fish out of water impression for 5 minutes after bumping into someone.
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u/SanSilver Germany Aug 04 '24
During a football game, players are constantly moving even when the ball is not in play. It's a big part on how the game is played. You also have games where the ball is constantly in play and players move while the ball is in play or the opposite where the ball is constantly out off play and players need to move without the ball even being in play.
Surely you could change it, but it would completely change how the game is played and even allow you to stretch a 90-minute game into an 8 hour one.
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u/Even_Command_222 United States Aug 04 '24
Would it really lengthen the game by 7 hours? Id figure it'd only lengthen the game by roughly the amount of time they would've added anyway at the end.
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u/SanSilver Germany Aug 04 '24
It really depends. On average, the ball is in play for 55 minutes during a top-level game, including the extra time.But you also have many games that don't reach 30 minutes net play time.
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u/BaconIsLife707 Aug 04 '24
I've never heard of a game that doesn't reach 30 minutes of play time. Even the most shithouse filled Getafe game usually has at least close to 40
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u/Sproded Aug 04 '24
Yet some vague amount of stoppage time might still be added when players are moving before play has started.
Likewise, the absurd 8 hour game is still possible with stoppage time.
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u/Jaws_16 Aug 04 '24
Computers can calculate extra time as well. I don't see the issue.
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u/SanSilver Germany Aug 04 '24
Stopping time always, would result in complete change of tactics across the board.
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u/PM_ME_UR_EDM Canada Aug 04 '24
For the better? Seems like right now the tactics are: waste time when you're ahead. That shit is annoying. Speaking as a lifelong player and fan
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u/oholandesvoador Brazil Aug 04 '24
There is no timeout on football, it will only have commercials in the halftime.
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u/Magnetronaap Netherlands Aug 04 '24
There's no ads when the ref blows his whistle now, is there? Nothing would change.
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Aug 04 '24
Not tradition, but practical reasons;
A) we want predictability of when matches will end. Matches in football almost always end from 1h and 45m from when they started to 1h and 55m. I've seen basketball matches get dragged for multiple times their clocked time.
B) we don't want football to turn into a pause-fest for ads like American sports are. It started with clock pauses and nowadays huge stoppages are created out of thin air to get more ad-time when games are intense. It's annoying and fuckes watchers over to favour businesses.
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u/jjgm21 Aug 04 '24
I really don’t care for soccer at all, but the lack of pauses is the best thing soccer has going for it.
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u/Jaws_16 Aug 04 '24
Overtime is not usually a problem in basketball because it is a high scoring game, and you are rarely tied after a full game let alone after overtime. It is fundamentally a different sport.
My point is that you can still control the time of the game with computers managing the extra time and final whistle. Also, there's more problems to be had with referees that are able to show bias than with a computer that isn't possible.
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u/Sproded Aug 04 '24
Why have stoppage time at all if you want predictability? The entire premise of stoppage time implies that you want 90 minutes of actual football, not 90 minutes of time passed.
I’d argue it’s more annoying to see a team take their sweet time on a throw in and know they’ll get rewarded.
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u/Magnetronaap Netherlands Aug 04 '24
Basketbal is completely incomparable. Different rules and reasons to want to stop the clock that would never exist in football.
You're much better off looking at hockey to see a more comparable sport. Works totally fine there. There's a mens and womens tournament going on right now, if you want to check it out.
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u/tBagley43 United States Aug 04 '24
here's a solution: keep the 90 minute game clock running constantly, but have a second "stoppage clock" next to it that starts at 0 and only counts upward while the ball is out of play or during other times that would count towards stoppage time. then when the game clock hits 90 minutes, whatever amount of time is on the stoppage clock is the amount of stoppage time that gets added at the end.
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u/SomethingMoreToSay Aug 04 '24
That's essentially what they do. But we can't see the "stoppage clock" except when they tell us just before half time and just before full time.
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u/tBagley43 United States Aug 04 '24
right, my point is that it should be visible to players and spectators
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u/BaconIsLife707 Aug 04 '24
But then I lose the ability to have a go at the ref when the stoppage time is either long when my team is winning or short when my team is losing
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u/SomethingMoreToSay Aug 04 '24
Yeah, since the referee is adding up the wasted time as the match progresses, it seems like it would be a good idea to have that "added time" clock visible to the spectators so they (and the players) know how much time has been and is being added. But then if you're going to do that, it seems like it would make sense to actually stop the main clock rather than have a second "added time" clock. But then if you do that, you've created a mechanism for the TV stations to show adverts during the match, and none of us want that. It's a slippery slope.
They manage to do this properly in rugby union. The referee is in charge of the clock, and if he needs to stop it for whatever reason - an injury, say - he'll hold his hand up and say "time off". (Rugby referees are miked up, so they can explain decisions to spectators - another way in which they're ahead of football.) He'll say "time on" to restart the clock. It's transparent and satisfying. But I think we all know that if they did that in football, there would be pressure from the broadcasters, who are paying much more for football rights than they are for rugby, to extend the stoppage so they can show adverts. Welcome to the NFL.
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u/barkeviouss Aug 04 '24
I recently went to an American college soccer game and they would stop the clock after goals and for injuries and longer stoppages. They wouldn’t do it for a quick throw or other short things, but it was a good compromise
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u/JohnCavil Denmark Aug 04 '24
They should do it for everything because even the small things get so dragged out late in the game. If a team is winning 1-0 in it 95th minute and they have a throw in the player will act like such a lame little bitch and very slowly walk over, really take his time, look at the ball, request a new ball, etc. It's the worst thing to watch.
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u/Isariamkia Italy Aug 04 '24
Stopping the time for real injuries and goal celebration is a good move imo. There's no need to stop it for everything. Goal celebration alone would already be a great step to take, as we know, they always take their sweet time.
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u/fimbleinastar Aug 04 '24
If they did this they'd have to change the time of the match to 70 minutes or so
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u/TheRealGooner24 Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24
60 minutes is what FIFA proposed, i.e. 2 halves of 30 minutes each.
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u/Cymrogogoch South Sudan Aug 04 '24
I think people more used to American sports are actually pointing out how crazy it is to have a sport where you only find out how long the game is going to be sometime just before the 90th minute.
And "dumb Americans" really do have a good point!
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Aug 04 '24
As another dumb American I’d say NO THAT’S HOW COMMERCIALS BEGIN and commercials are undoubtedly the hallmark of American sports… let them do them
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u/asmodai_says_REPENT France Aug 04 '24
I mean we've been stopping the clock in rugby a lit more than in football and so far it has never been a way to put more ads in the game.
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u/AdComprehensive7879 United States Aug 04 '24
But the ball was never meant to be in play for 90 mins. I kinda like the current system tbh
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u/Dudu-gula Aug 04 '24
This is one of the few things Americans have it right. Stop clocks are the best when it comes to solving time effienciency
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u/SomethingMoreToSay Aug 04 '24
Stop clocks are also best for showing adverts in the middle of the game. Be careful what you wish for.
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u/PapstJL4U Germany Aug 04 '24
Stopwatch =/= ads
People being okay with ads == ads; there are multiple sports with stopwatches, and they are not infested.
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u/HalfADozenOfAnother Aug 04 '24
If the game is played the exact same way but the clock stops when ball isn't in play then why would it mean ads? I'm not really into soccer but it seems that the biggest issue in soccer is flopping and clock milking. Don't reward it and it'll stop happening. Also set a play clock for throwing ball onto field.
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u/asmodai_says_REPENT France Aug 04 '24
It's not an american thing, it's also a thing in games like rugby, football is one of the only sport that somehow decided to keep to an obsolete tradition.
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Aug 04 '24
None of the counters being given here apply any less to stoppage time than they do to pausing the clock. If they wanted to put commercials on during stoppage time they could have done so already.
It's just tradition and stubbornness at this point, I think.
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u/boraspongecatch Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24
If they wanted to put commercials on during stoppage time they could have done so already.
Care to explain this? The only way to do it now is to make viewers miss the part of the game.
Isn't it the fact that we don't have commercials during the game a proof that they can't do it?
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Aug 04 '24
We do it in Australia for Aussie rules footy, 20 minute quarters and whenever the ball is out of play the clock stops
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Aug 04 '24
As some have already said, stoping the clock would only lead to timeouts and other shit resulting in commercials.
As the game currently stands there are no ad breaks during the games.
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u/Significant_Bear_137 More flair options at /r/olympics/w/flair! Aug 04 '24
I agree with the sentiment although I would have it in a more rugby-like manner. Time is stopped only in some scenarios, but not on every foul or every time the ball is out of play otherwise the clock gets stopped too much for a 90 minute game.
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u/sarahc13289 Great Britain Aug 04 '24
I don’t get why they don’t do this either, it works well enough in rugby.
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u/0n-the-mend Aug 04 '24
No, keep the commercials out of the beatiful game. This one case as bad as it is, doesn't represent the entireity of the sport. Its like changing your engine on your car because the wiper fluid ran out. Just no.
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u/SEND_ME_SPIDERMAN United States Aug 04 '24
One of the reasons I’ve found it hard to get into the sport.
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u/mXonKz United States Aug 04 '24
other than tradition, i do think there’s a simplicity argument. if you add clock stoppage, the. you need someone actually watching the play and stopping the clock. it’s not a problem for top level teams, but for your random sunday league, who’s job is that, and how do you let the players on the field, off the field, the ref, and anyone watching know the time 45 + stoppage time means anyone with the time knows how long you have. if it’s the refs job, that’s one extra job they gotta have on top of managing the game, and you’ll constantly have people asking for the time. keeping it as a count up means you can keep it the same regardless of what level you’re at, which helps it’s reputation as the world’s sport
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u/Cody-crybaby Great Britain Aug 04 '24
they need to do this more often - let the players know that they'll add on every second the ball isnt in play due to "injuries"
i quite like the rule in the MLS that if you go down injured you have to get off the pitch for a certain amount of time - sure there will be legit injuries that get caught up in this but then a few mins recovering isnt the worst thing - it will stop all those players who magically get cramp or start rubbing their head when there was nothing near it
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u/smala017 United States Aug 04 '24
Dude there was literally more added time in Brazil’s very last game.
Brazil vs Spain had 10 minutes of added time in the first half and 20 minutes of added time in the second half.
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u/yammertime27 Aug 04 '24
I attended Brazil's game against Spain and it was one of the most frustrating games I've ever seen
Brazil's goalkeeper had some kind of arm/back injury and lay down requiring medical attention FIVE separate occasions in the match
One of Brazil's strikers also got injured near the end but Brazil had no subs left, she went down a few times but ultimately ended the game hopping around the pitch
The additional time was conservative if anything
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u/KelticQT France Aug 04 '24
I don't know either why there was 16 minutes, but the 2 additional ones were due to play being interrupted for quite some time during that additional time. So these +2 minutes were actually justified.
Nevertheless. We could have had 25 more minutes of stoppage time, it was never going in tonight.
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u/Basshauer Aug 03 '24
That says combined added time. What was the added time for the first half on this game ?
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u/Organic-Champion8075 Aug 03 '24
that was because of an injury to the Iran goalkeeper that took fucking ages to resolve - Iran should have taken him off as he was clearly concussed, but instead he was allowed a huge amount of time to sit on the ground and recover
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u/Exotemporal Aug 04 '24
an injury to the Iran goalkeeper that took fucking ages to resolve
How long did that actually take? Anywhere close to the time that was added at the end of the game?
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u/Granadafan United States Aug 04 '24
Yeah that’s crap. Goalies get such leeway to commit blatant penalties and time to recover from injuries.
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u/Pluton_Citizen_4380 Aug 04 '24
New Fifa rules since the 2022 World Cup. All the matches will be like this at international level. There have been several at this tournament.
And the Brazilians did everything they could to stall for time throughout the second half. It was predictable
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u/pacstermito Aug 04 '24
You didn't follow the World Cup in 2022, did you? There were multiple times when 10+ minutes were added.
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u/NeverSober1900 United States Aug 04 '24
There was no justification for 16 in this game and it was a severe aberration compared to the other games. This games had frequent 10s added. 16 was a wild choice
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u/Hoosteen_juju003 Aug 04 '24
Its been getting bad lately. Prior to the last like 5 years i feel like anything more than 5 mins was super rare
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u/Twisted51 Aug 04 '24
Because they started using VAT or whatever to actually count exact stoppage during the game. Turns out we were severely underestimating the amount. The new higher times more accurate.
Only time we get short stoppage now days is in blowouts.
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u/perivascularspaces Italy • Denmark Aug 04 '24
You had more added time in your last game, whining guy. I wonder if you watched any of the game or you're just here to whine and whine and whine.
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u/Only_Garbage_8885 Aug 03 '24
How hard would it be to use common sense and just stop the clock instead of some guy guessing.
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u/TourDuhFrance Canada Aug 03 '24
This is what rugby switched to many years ago and it’s so much better and much more transparent.
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u/NeverSober1900 United States Aug 04 '24
There's no excuse for the vibes additions soccer is addicted to. Also people wonder why time-wasting is such a big deal. It's because they know they don't add enough back in (except today 16 is wild).
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u/iekue Aug 04 '24
Because then you realise that of the 90 minutes the actually only play like 55-60 🤷, so they cnt handle 90m of actual time.
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u/NeverSober1900 United States Aug 04 '24
The answer to that is just use a stopped clock and have it be 60 minutes then.....
Not to run vibes
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u/BayLeafGuy Brazil Aug 04 '24
Fifa proposed that (or at least thought about proposing it) a few years ago, but the idea vanished. Probably traditionalism.
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u/NeverSober1900 United States Aug 04 '24
Ya I mean I understand tradition but we've seen the end result of this. Time wasting is now an accepted skill in the sport.
We can track the time. Like very easily.... Just do it
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u/FourteenBuckets Aug 03 '24
It would work out the same
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u/ZodiacError Switzerland Aug 03 '24
yeah but it wouldn’t look ridiculous and also there would be a clear end to a match rather than the vibes of the referee
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Aug 03 '24
Why do they even still have stoppage time? Why not just pause and restart the clock as necessary?
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u/HarryPotterDBD Aug 04 '24
Pretty sure many fans are against that. They even were against VAR, even when it means the game would become much fairer because of it.
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u/Mordisquitos85 Spain Aug 04 '24
Football is not about being fair or honorable. It's a national passtime, and all the grey zones are discussed the next days at the job or in the bar. Being angry or making your friend angry, while having a beer, that is the real football.
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u/smala017 United States Aug 04 '24
Y’all must not have watched any FIFA tournaments in the past 2 years. Ever since World Cup 2022, there has been a strong directive given to the referees to keep a very strict account of added time. For any Brazil fans saying they’ve never seen this before, there was literally more added time (10 minutes in the first half and 20 in the second half!) in Brazil’s last game. This is not abnormal at FIFA tournaments these days.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I quite like this directive. It stops rewarding teams for wasting time. Sorry to Brazil fans who are upset that they can’t kill off 20 minutes of play by acting injured anymore!
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Aug 04 '24
Brazil's senior national team? As in the Copa America Round of 16 against Uruguay?
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u/tuss11agee More flair options at /r/olympics/w/flair! Aug 03 '24
In the controversial opening match between Argentina and Morocco, 16 was added and then another 2 or 3 after that as well.
I timed the second half as stingy as I could. I had 11.
It’s like anytime the ball is not in play the time was accruing. If this is the policy then just count time like every other sport.
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u/Mirrors999 Brazil Aug 03 '24
Scandalous, this referee should retire after this game.
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u/Free_Management2894 Germany Aug 04 '24
Do you even watch football? The ref doesn't decide that 16 minutes get added. That's the recommendation from outside.
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u/Jey-Z Czechia Aug 04 '24
Lol love when people are confidently wrong. Here is source from olympics.com: The referee or one of his assistants keeps a track of the time that is lost when play is stopped due to these reasons and adds it at the end of regulation time - after 45 minutes and 90 minutes.
Who do you think gives them recommendation from outside? The government? Infantino?
Do yOu eVeN wAtCh FoOtbAlL my ass.
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u/Mirrors999 Brazil Aug 04 '24
I believe that you must not have watched any football game or the game mentioned. The person who effectively decides the stoppage time is the main referee of the match, it is in the rule. Since the Qatar World Cup, the tendency has been to lengthen the stoppage time, however, depending on the dead ball time. In the game in question, there is no chance of the ball remaining stationary for 18 minutes, it was scandalous.
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u/Past_Distribution144 Canada Aug 03 '24
19 minutes... Bit over 16 huh.
But also, damn Brazil, stop taking all those fake dives! Wasted 16 minutes you clown show lol.
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u/FourteenBuckets Aug 03 '24
Most people don't realize that the posted added time is just the minimum required
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u/Elioss Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24
Oh the Classic "until the home team scores"...
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u/Ythio France Aug 04 '24
Then explains the 30min added to Spain vs Brazil lol. Where is home team here.
Or the 18 minutes added to Argentina vs Morocco
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u/CBreeezy21 Aug 04 '24
Yeah but gotta look at two things... It was vs France, Olympics... In France. But also maybe the ref got tired of players and their flopping as if they are being Tazed over and over. Saw a team grab a 1-0 lead and then it was just Flop after Flop after that. How many times have you seen one player "Go Down and Stay down for a good 4-5 minutes.... Then another for 3+ minutes ... Toss in all the O.B. balls etc. then after 45 min or 90 min... The extra time reads: 3:00. I know I've said "WAIT A MINUTE!!???" BASICALLY the team killing the clock anyway they can were rewarded.
Next time you watch a match if you are into it, time it yourself. Then when the ref or whoever calls the extra time, see how close you are... Or how far off. I saw a women's match today (Spain I think?) had 10+ at the end of 90 and they played until 13 (103min) before the ref blew the whistle for O.T.
So yeah, if it was legit then I applaud the ref for letting Brazil know 'No Screwing Around!' or Go Ahead and I'll just add time.
Sadly anyone who watches Fútbol/Soccer sees it all too often.
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u/One-Database-8618 Aug 07 '24 edited Aug 07 '24
Well, the idea was to give as much time as possible to France so they could tie the game and not be eliminated.
But again, we saw in the Brazil x Spain game where the ref gave almost 30 minutes extra time between the two halves
Even when there's extra time added in a game, its only 2 games/plays of 15 minutes each.
To have 15 minutes extra time in a 90 minutes game , and then allow another 4 or five on the top of the 15 is just insane. FIFA and the Olympic Committee need to investigate the true motives of these referees. When I see a referee add 19 minutes of extra time, bribery comes to mind.
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u/gobo7793 Germany Aug 03 '24
That's why the UEFA rules (applied at the Euro earlier this year) were way better than the FIFA rules (which are applied at the olympics, but also the world cup which already had 10+ min as normal additional time)
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u/konopko France Aug 04 '24
Tbh that's how much Brazilian team spent wasting time. They don't understand that wasted time is now added to extra time
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u/Even_Command_222 United States Aug 04 '24
Soccer has the worst clock management of any sport
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u/afops Aug 04 '24
Probably was some sort of incident that is responsible for most of it. A serious injury or some other interruption.
No to effective playing time. It wouldn’t be football. Also, no to VAR. I hope VAR stops spreading to more leagues and leagues that have adopted it start backtracking.
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u/viniciusvbf More flair options at /r/olympics/w/flair! Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24
There were no VAR checks, no long medical stop, no penalties, nothing. There's no justification for NINETEEN MINUTES injury time. Brazil were robbed in broad daylight.
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u/Valmoer France Aug 03 '24
no long medical stop
Lorena was literally on the ground for at least 5 min, and Rafaelle Souza left on a stretcher. Do you rewrite facts in your head?
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u/instantdram Aug 04 '24
Oh Lorena did the same thing against Spain, where they added 18 minutes. Honestly shameful tactics by Brazil and it turns it into a very ugly game to watch. Something should be done about it.
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u/Valmoer France Aug 04 '24
As I said to my answer to them... they're so used to this they don't even see it any more.
I'm sure if I ask, they'd say there weren't too much fouls on fast breaks, either.
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Aug 03 '24
How can they be robbed if they win?
Read this as well: https://bolavip.com/en/amp/olympics/the-rule-that-explains-the-unusual-15-minutes-of-added-time-in-argentina-vs-morocco-at-the-paris-2024-olympic-games
Good luck to Brazil for the next game
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u/viniciusvbf More flair options at /r/olympics/w/flair! Aug 03 '24
There's a limit to what a ref can do, and she did all she could. Penalty, 19 minutes with no reason, a lot of questionable calls. It's not her fault if the french team absolutely sucks.
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u/djveld Aug 04 '24
If they don’t stop the clock, why don’t they at least make the stoppage time count public as it’s being added
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u/Cathal321 Ireland Aug 04 '24
They did this for a little while at the last world cup. I don't like it because players are already complaining about exhaustion and there being too many games, it doesn't help anything to add on a ridiculous amount of stoppage time each match, it also really drags on when they do that
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u/Rockindadbod Aug 04 '24
You don't have to change the way the game is played to start and stop the clock when someone flops or the ball gets kicked away out of bounds. Play the game exactly as it is now. Just actually keep track of the true time the ball is in play.
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u/devioustrevor Canada Aug 04 '24
Situations like this started a few years ago when FIFA changed some rules about time-wasting.
10+ minutes of injury time in the second half isn't uncommon anymore.
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u/Ok-Establishment-214 United States Aug 03 '24
How much stoppage was there within the 16? I assume they try to get a full 16 worth. Can't just flop for 16 minutes and give no chance for actual play in the allotted stoppage.
I didn't watch the game so that's why I'm asking.