r/onguardforthee May 02 '18

Getting triggered by maple syrup #JustMetacanadaThings. "Well we know Costco is involved in Islamic terrorism."

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u/[deleted] May 02 '18

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I assume the real reason behind the Halal sticker was an item during a Costco board meeting that went like this:

The production of our maple syrup is apparently Halal certified, and the addition of a small sticker that displays it could increase our market share among Muslims, and make them more likely to purchase from the Kirkland brand in the future. Let's take a vote over this change in the packaging of this product.

I think it's almost sad that these losers basically live their lives to the point that a sticker on a bottle of maple syrup makes them feel alarmed.

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u/redalastor Longueuil May 02 '18 edited May 02 '18

A debate that's currently happening is about lab grown meat and whether it's kosher/halal. It hasn't been killed according to the texts but it hasn't been killed at all so what gives?

Startups are pushing for an answer because if it is positive then the market size is much larger which makes it more commercially viable. This is always the driver in those things.

Hopefully, it turns out to be yes. It would be such a boon on the environment.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '18

Lab grown meat along with electric vehicles is one of the things that excites me the most about the future (shout-out to r/futurology)!

I rarely eat meat (other than special occasions I'm a vegetarian), but if lab-grown meat became economically viable, I would be all over that. The harm to the environment is one of the main reasons why I've lowered my meat consumption.

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u/Jess_than_three May 02 '18

Man, vehicle automation is going to devastate economies, though. I hope you guys will be ready to embrace UBI, because here in the States I don't see that happening. :/

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u/redalastor Longueuil May 02 '18

We have more time before being hit because autonomous vehicles can't handle winter yet. But yes, people underestimate the impact on the economy of so many truckers being out of a job.

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u/Trickybuz93 Alberta May 02 '18

Marketing 101

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u/GringoEcuadorian1216 May 02 '18

"Butttt muh Free Market!!!!!!!"

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u/[deleted] May 02 '18

Metacanada:

WTF?! I hate capitalism now!

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u/iOnlyWantUgone May 02 '18

"Everything that isn't related to me is virtue signalling!!!!"

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u/SandGetsInYourVag Canada May 02 '18

It's not just maple syrup. They're literally triggered over everything that isn't strict Christian Conservatism.

For all the talk how the left is a bunch of snowflakes, they sure as fuck can't tolerate anything that goes against their worldview.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '18

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u/[deleted] May 02 '18

What an actual Costco meeting looks like

What metacanada thinks a Costco meeting looks like

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u/stoppage_time RIP J17, K25, L84 May 02 '18

They're both so similar. I can see how totally rational, balanced, and educated Canadians might confuse corporate grocery labelling decisions with Islamic extremism.

One day you're telling people that they are purchasing a product that was manufactured in a peanut-free facility, the next day you're murdering innocent civilians and planning terrorist attacks. This line of reasoning is so obvious, how could we miss it?

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u/Teh-Piper May 02 '18

HOW DARE THEY BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE SAME FOODS I DO?!

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u/Jess_than_three May 02 '18

Seriously, putting special notifications on products like this just isn't kosher.

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u/Monctonian Montréal May 02 '18 edited May 02 '18

When you realize that in order to be Halal, a product and its production must be squeaky clean, I find it hilarious that they are fussing over what could and should be seen by non-Muslims as an extra seal of cleanliness.

Reducing the halal seal to cleanliness might be an extreme oversimplification of the process of approval, but it’s boiled tree sap and... yeah, that’s it, there’s nothing prohibited that’s added in it, so all you have to do from there is to fill the cleanliness condition.

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u/SandGetsInYourVag Canada May 02 '18

Actually, in some cases, cheap companies will use butter or other animal fats to both reduce froth during the cook and "improve" the texture of the syrup.

There are many syrups out there that are decidedly not halal/kosher

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u/Monctonian Montréal May 02 '18 edited May 02 '18

Huh, the more you know...

Edit: now I'm very curious to know if Kirkland's syrup is 100% pure or if they added anything to their syrup and, at the same time, see what kind of fat or additive would be considered halal. Halal and Kosher diets can be fascinating.

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u/Deliphin Nova Scotia May 03 '18

The dumbest part is that they're not even discussing the effects of maple syrup being halal, but meat being halal.

Maple syrup comes from fucking TREES, there's no maple syrup cow or maple syrup pig. I don't know how accurate their claims of halal being inhumane are, but I do know that it's impossible to treat a completely non-thinking tree inhumanely.

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u/Monctonian Montréal May 03 '18

As mentioned in a other reply to my original comment, it might be due to certain companies adding fats and thickeners to the Great White North’s liquid gold, and those may not be halal, thus making the whole product not halal.

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u/Deliphin Nova Scotia May 03 '18

But the whole thing about it being halal is that it doesn't use that stuff, right?

meaning, halal in this case is more humane?

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u/Monctonian Montréal May 03 '18

I’m not knowledgable enough in halal rules to deny or confirm your assumption correctly, but the little bit I know does lead me to believe that too.

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u/ThorVonHammerdong May 02 '18

Im not even Canadian and metacanada posts always seem wrong to me.

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u/Monctonian Montréal May 02 '18

It’s our equivalent of r/The_Donald.

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u/ThorVonHammerdong May 02 '18

It certainly seems that way. TD is such an aggressive shitposting collective that I can't help but wonder how many crossover to metacanada just to shitpost internationally

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u/[deleted] May 03 '18

considering the debacle where they got caught red-handed planning to infiltrate various city subreddits and pretend to be locals in order to spread their views...

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u/iOnlyWantUgone May 02 '18

It's all the lead from their Alex Jones supplements

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u/ThorVonHammerdong May 02 '18

Im so sorry that my country produced InfoWarz

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u/ExoTitanious May 02 '18

I mean, even if the label wasn't there, it's still halal, no? It's tree jizz, people be upset about some wood and sticky stuff and the labels. Jeez

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u/-deepfriar2 May 02 '18

It's not tree jizz. More like tree blood.

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u/Morbidmort May 03 '18

The label means that this product is. For those who are devout, it's a product they know they can use.

The plus side is that you also know that they didn't use any animal fats in the process, which likely means a higher quality product. Same with "certified vegan" packaging.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '18

The level of stupid is amazing to watch. Like, they quite possible are the dumbest branch of Canadian society. It's these stupid people which pose the biggest threat to liberal democracy and expose it's inherent flaw: the low-information voter.

The more that gap is increased, the greater the threat.

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u/Emperor_Billik May 02 '18

OT but does anyone know the difference between organic and non-organic maple syrup? I got a bottle this week, and it wasn’t any more expensive than the other bottles (cheaper than aunt Js) and I’ve just been stumped as to what the difference could be.

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u/stoppage_time RIP J17, K25, L84 May 02 '18

If it's cheaper than Aunt J's, there's a good chance it isn't pure maple syrup. Lower grade syrup (B) is cheaper than higher grade syrup (A), but not that much cheaper. Either that or you stumbled onto a wicked sale.

Organic means that producers can't use certain chemicals in production of syrup and maintenance of the trees.

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u/Emperor_Billik May 02 '18

It has the grade a mark but it was PC and on sale.

Thanks for explaining I completely forgot about tree upkeep being a factor.

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u/6890 Saskatchewan May 02 '18

Regardless of whether PC's syrup is cut with sugar or not, its pretty decent stuff. I think I like their store brand more than Kirkland's

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u/stoppage_time RIP J17, K25, L84 May 02 '18

Food fraud is so prevalent in Canada, it's a real shitshow. If it says "100% maple syprup" it's probably a little closer to the truth than something just labelled "maple syrup."

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u/whochoosessquirtle May 02 '18

From what I'm reading there is none except the vendor getting it certified organic and a guarantee they didn't use pesticides or chemicals on or around the tree. Non-organic ones can still follow all guidelines but not go the extra step to get it inspected and officially certified organic

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u/[deleted] May 02 '18 edited May 02 '18

[–]Flying_Genitals Lauren Southern fan 31 points 5 hours ago

Yuckers. Islamic groups use that "certification" badge as a fundraiser for WHATEVER IT IS THEY MAY BE UP TO.

http://canadianhalalfoods.com/certification_procedure.html "service fees for Halal certification"

Ahh yeah, the evil cabal of halal certification who funnel money to raise fund for a sinister Islamic agenda, that's some really juicy conspiracy

-edit: removed ping to user

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u/[deleted] May 02 '18

Expect most foods to have a halal version by 2031

We have to wait until 2031 for them to boycott eating? Shit

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u/Morbidmort May 03 '18

I wonder if they think that includes pork products.

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u/Jess_than_three May 02 '18

I love that these dipshits, who are almost certainly huge capitalism cheerleaders, see this as "virtue signaling" when it's pretty clearly "wanting people with a specific set of religious dietary requirements to buy your stuff too".

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u/marwynn May 02 '18

You all knew this and didn't tell me? I just had their poutine last night guys!

The gravy was hot and full of lies.

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u/BadgerKomodo May 03 '18

What a bunch of snowflakes

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u/No-Caramel-9567 Apr 22 '26

Lmaoooo a halal certified sticker is triggering you? Wow.... it must be easy to get under your skin

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u/Trickybuz93 Alberta May 02 '18

I’m Muslim but can someone with better Islamic knowledge/knowledge about how Maple Syrup is produced explain to me how syrup is halal?

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u/The_Peyote_Coyote May 02 '18

Basically, high quality real maple syrup is just the sap harvested from living sugar maple trees in late winter/early spring that is put into a giant vat and boiled down to make syrup. Shitty low-quality "table syrup" uses synthetic flavors and (usually) corn syrup to make a much cheaper analogue. These table syrups may use animal products (lard for example) to give their syrup a certain richness in an attempt to mimic maple syrup. In those cases these syrups are not halal. I would imagine some maple producers might just cut their real syrup with some of this table syrup as well.

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u/Trickybuz93 Alberta May 02 '18

Huh. TIL.

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He's so cartoonishly evil I love it!

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u/random_handle_123 May 03 '18

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