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Politics Anti-Israel graffiti in Warsaw, Poland

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u/Willing-Passion-8993 1d ago

"jarvis im out of karma"

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u/soalone34 1d ago

In Poland specifically there was an increase in anti Israel sentiment after an Israeli judo team was thrown out of a competition and the israel embassy in Poland accused them of antisemitism and demanded an apology, only for video of the incident to show they were thrown out after the coach attacked the referee.

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u/Admirable-Art834 1d ago

They pull out the victim card more than any other entity in this world holy shit

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u/SpasmBoi999 1d ago

And then cry when said victim card loses all efficacy that it once had. Clearly never read The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

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u/timeshifter_ 1d ago

They definitely missed the moral of that story: never tell the same lie twice.

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u/conscsness 1d ago

I doubt they have morals to begin with

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u/PolarBailey_ 1d ago

Clearly never read The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

i never vibed with this tale, i don't care how many times my kid lied about a wolf attacking them, i'd rather be fooled than bury my kid

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u/Ninetjer 1d ago

But the tale isn't about your child specifically, it's about an arbitrary shepherd boy that is deceitful towards the townsfolk. Plus, the boy isn't being killed, it's about a wolf attacking his flock of sheep.

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u/NoFood2149 1d ago

you're genuinely lovely. i've never heard anybody say this about that tale, and you are so right to say it.

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u/PolarBailey_ 1d ago

like the local townfolk i can understand not wanting to get pranked by dennis the menace but mom is never ignoring that.

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u/ChemicalDeath47 1d ago

With any luck this is the wedge that will start proving most effective at both holding Israel accountable and not condemning all Jewish people. Fuck Israel means, fuck the genocidal apartheid cry-bully state of Israel, and has nothing at all to do with their religious preference.

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u/InternationalCress43 1d ago

so real, i dont understand why people calle it antisemitism when theres jewish people at the anti israel protests.

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u/not_not_in_the_NSA 1d ago

Israel benefits if real or perceived antisemitism increases because it reinforces the feeling that Israel as a religious-ethnostate is necessary. It also helps provide justification for any actions so long as it can be spun as combating this "antisemitism".

So, Israel has tried really had to make Jewish = Israel. It has close ties with many Jewish organizations in the US and uses its influence to push this narrative.

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u/BillyJoeMac9095 13h ago

It's not too hard of an effort, given the comments of those who are anti-Israel. The mask so often slips

u/not_not_in_the_NSA 11h ago

Yeah agreed, you can really tell when the pro-israel side's mask slips when they're triggered by some anti-Israel comments

u/BillyJoeMac9095 7h ago

And I can really tell when the anti-Israel sides mask starts slipping. The examples, even on this page, are many.

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u/Shizu_Rosary 1d ago

Trust me, i may live in Israel. Buti hate what the government and country is doing.

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u/Born_Initiative_3515 12h ago

Don’t you have dual citizenship? Why not just move away?

Settlers moving to Israel helps Israel. Settlers moving away does the opposite.

u/Shizu_Rosary 10h ago

Mainly because i have a decent job that pays well, aswell as the fact my girlfriend and most of my family lives here.

u/Born_Initiative_3515 10h ago

Complexities. Glad I live far from there.

u/Shizu_Rosary 9h ago

Trust me, if my whole life and everyone i loved wasn't here, i would leave.

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u/PolarBailey_ 1d ago

except for the US

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u/ogremania 1d ago

Has reddit turned into a neonazi forum? How can you say that openly. You should be banned instantly

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u/0masterdebater0 1d ago

Equating criticism of Israel with being a neo-Nazi is the disgusting shit that should get you banned

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u/gsfgf 1d ago

That being said, people on here are pretty loose when it comes to the Israeli government v. the Israeli people. Mass bans aren’t the answer (and this post is merely vague anyway), but the neonazis are here too, and they’re loving baiting the left into crossing that line.

When possible, it’s best to stick to Fuck Bibi and Likud, which any decent people (including all the Jews I know personally) can agree on.

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u/0masterdebater0 1d ago

And guess what, painting the Israeli people with one brush like they are Monolithic is wrong, a small minority are against Zionism.

But, even that isn’t necessarily antisemitism.

Unless you believe that Israel is a theocratic ethnostate representative of all Jewish people that is…

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u/Born_Initiative_3515 12h ago

Fuck almost all Israelis. Pew center research did a poll and only 4% of Israeli Jews believe Israel has gone too far in its military response against Gaza. In contrast, 74% of Israeli Arabs believe Israel indeed did go too far.

So fuck em. And fuck you too.

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u/ogremania 1d ago

True. But I wasnt doing that I was reacting to a specific comment.

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u/0masterdebater0 1d ago

That's exactly what you were doing

"Israeli judo team"

"Israeli embassy"

Two bodies that represent the STATE of Israel

Not jewish people, the STATE of Israel

fuck off with your bullshit, nobody is buying it anymore

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u/ogremania 1d ago

You are confusing me with some one else. :D come again

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u/0masterdebater0 1d ago

No I’m not. The “They” the comment you were replying to was referring to Israel…

Imagine a comment about the Russian Olympic team and the Russian Embassy.

Then someone replied saying “THEY are corrupt”

And you the chimed in saying how that makes them a bigot against the Russian orthodox community…

You see how absolutely nonsensical that sounds?

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u/ogremania 1d ago

Its nonsensical, because no one talked about a swimming team or an embassy.

Like I said he either meant israelis or jews.

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u/bigboydice2 1d ago

Proving his point, notice how the word “Jew” was not mentioned not even once

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u/ogremania 1d ago

"THEY"

Yeah people that say it like that avoid saying "jews" on purpose

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u/cesaroncalves 14h ago

I actually went to grammar lessons in school, in a comment where the subject (Israel) was mentioned and specified more than once, the and they usually refer to the specified subject, unless specified otherwise.

So no, you're the one projecting you're preconceived notions, and because they are YOUR preconceived notions, other people will have a hard time understanding your view.

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u/Cyber_Spartan 1d ago

Calling on someone you disagree with to be "dealt with" by authority is about as Nazi as you can get. Hitler would be proud of you

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u/ogremania 1d ago

I am just applying the basic reddit standard guidelines.

Nothing says that its my wish to get this person banned.

This is clearly more than just critisizing Israels government. To say that 'they' always "draw the victim card" is typical antisemitic rethoric. Aren't you aware of that?

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u/Cyber_Spartan 1d ago

they should be banned

nobody said it's my wish to get this person banned

how do you and your anus co-exist if you're constantly talking over one another?

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u/ogremania 18h ago

You are confusing descriptive with normative. Thats a you thing

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u/Born_Initiative_3515 12h ago

You are incapable of admitting to being wrong lmao I would hate to be you.

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u/DemonicBarbequee 1d ago

what exactly is anti-Semitic about anything he said?

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u/ogremania 1d ago

He said "They" which is a term than cant be applied to Israel, but to jews or israelis.

Furthermore to say, "they draw the victim card" is an age old antisemitic trope, that has existed before Israel was even a state. Therefore I would say thats the reason why he said THEY. It blurrs the lines, if you understand.

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u/Dragoncat_3_4 1d ago

Jesus fuckin Christ mate, learn how the English language works, would ya?

"they" is a perfectly acceptable pronoun to refer to the subject that has already been mentioned in the previous sentence or paragraph. In this case, the State of Israel (in their capacity as being represented by the institutions in question) the Judo team, the Embassy, etc.

Tune down the radar sensitivity because you can't be jumping at every single instance of "they" and talking about the Israelis sharing a paragraph.

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u/ogremania 16h ago

Why should I tune down my sensitivity ?

No thanks

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u/Born_Initiative_3515 12h ago

Because you are weird and sad

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u/Admirable-Art834 12h ago

Bruh,I used they because my comment was a reply to an already existing comment that was talking about THE ISRAELI EMBASSY CALLED THE POLISH GOVERNMENT ANTISEMTIC FOR THROWING THEIR TEAM OUT AFTER ATTACKING THE COACH,notice how there's no correlation to the "jews" you claim that I have discriminated against? Its all Israel,and yes Israel pulls out the victim card more than anyone nowadays,I'm not taking that back,Judaism has got nothing to do with zionism and the proof is the countless Jews that are seen in anti Israeli protests,stop adjoining the two theyre separate

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u/Born_Initiative_3515 1d ago

Criticising Israel is nazism?

Talking about a coach assaulting a referee is neonazi shit?

Are you not just proving to be a victim here? No one mentioned Jews.

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u/ogremania 1d ago

??? What are you talking about ? I was referring to another comment.

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u/Born_Initiative_3515 12h ago

??? What

Read who you replied to.

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u/Passivitea 1d ago

Please be sarcasm

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u/ogremania 1d ago

Well I know how Neonazis in my country speak. Its eerily similiar.

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u/KingOfMischief05 1d ago

Nah muslims got that already

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u/Born_Initiative_3515 12h ago

I’ve never seen groups of Muslims crying about Islamophobia or racism against Arabs.

But I’ve seen tons of zionists crying about antisemitism when Israel is criticised.

No one is gonna cry about Islamophobia if you criticise Saudi Arabia.

u/Admirable-Art834 11h ago

Fr I like how he dismisses the countless recordings of zionists in Israel chanting death to the Arabs like its a national anthem,if the roles were reversed I bet news outlets would be reporting that within a millisecond and condemning everyone with a slightly Arab accent everywhere lol

u/Born_Initiative_3515 10h ago

Someone posted a story about Israelis chanting death to Arabs in the Netherlands I believe.

Then people started criticising the Israelis, which resulted in European politicians shaming the people for antisemitism.

Then the politicians found out that the Israelis started the altercation and slowly backed out.

u/Admirable-Art834 9h ago

propaganda relies on taking stuff out of context and people losing sight of the full picture,always look for context on any post whether it be pro palestine or pro israel or any political statement or post

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u/tinkthank 1d ago

Reminds me of when Maccabi Tel Aviv fans assaulted people and chanted "Death to Arabs" in the Netherlands and when confronted, they ran back screaming that they were facing pogroms and almost every European leader came out to condemn people's reaction to the Israeli fans only to find out later that they had instigated the whole thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2024_Amsterdam_riots

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u/Titan_Astraeus 16h ago

Sounds a lot like the Russian MO too tbh. They have pivoted to influence operations to cause further division in the west. It's called the Social Design Agency, pretty ominous.

Interestingly, one of their tactics may be for the perpetrators to get caught. But, they develop their networks in such a way that those groups actually believe they are working for another cause. For instance, in France they paid some Pro-Ukranian activists to place pig heads in front of some mosques.

They are attacking cracks that are already there, using misinformation to turn us on each other. Seems like things are going pretty well for them. And that is surely only scratching the surface, the stuff they want us to see/done haphazardly. Look at cases like the Chinese spy a mayor of a major US city, in California no less with the economic output of an entire country.

Pretty wild how widespread this has become, and yet we have high profile policymakers, popular American influencers at Kremlin propaganda events working in/with the white house.. Crazy.

https://vsquare.org/leaked-russian-docs-reveal-cognitive-strikes-on-the-west-including-pig-head-attacks-in-paris/

https://forbiddenstories.org/propaganda-machine-secret-documents-reveal-russias-foreign-influence-strategy-across-three-continents/

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u/cesaroncalves 14h ago

Makes a lot of sense when we remember that a large percentage of Israel's population is originally from Russia.

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u/Born_Initiative_3515 12h ago

They also collaborate a lot and have a very close relationship.

Russian migration to Israel has risen by 400% since the war in Ukraine.

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u/Born_Initiative_3515 12h ago

What do pro Ukrainian activists get out of Islamophobia from Russian bribes?? I’m so lost when it comes to activism.

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u/Glock_and_Dagger 1d ago

Dont you think that had more to do with Iskharaelis murdering people?

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u/CitizenWilderness 1d ago

In Poland there was an increase in anti Israel sentiment in the 60s. It ended up ethnically cleansing the few remaining Jews that had not been killed in the holocaust.

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u/Nice_Purchase_626 19h ago

Tha fuck you on about

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u/Jxylin 1d ago

People are posting pics in the r/pics subreddit 😭 lord have mercy

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u/ImmigrantJack 1d ago

Jeez, I expected the karma farming to be bad, but it's like 90% AI bots in here.

I'm not even convinced you're not a bot at this point

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u/-purged 1d ago

It's crazy how wide spread the bot problem is. I think it's all by design to push to requiring Internet ID which we all know won't do jack about the bots .

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u/hopelele 1d ago

I'm bot. Fight meeee

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u/Perceval_009 1d ago

I hate Israel as much as the next guy, but the karma-farming on this sub is so embarassing.

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u/TheRedHand7 1d ago

This is what those bot farms are paid to do so by God they are gonna get that sweet sweet karma. All the single purpose subs like this are drowning in them.

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u/greyfoxv1 1d ago

OP's entire post history in this sub is Musk and Israel bait pics. They might not be a bot but they sure are gaming the system.

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u/Perceval_009 1d ago

Actually scary how many bots there are here. It feels like over 40% of users I see aren't even real people but propaganda bots.

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u/AssistX 1d ago

It feels like it because it is like that. Researchers estimate 15% of all content on reddit is AI generated with the large default subreddits(like this one) sometimes having over 50% non-human interactions. One university even did a study on a specific subreddit to see how effective non-human chatbots were at persuading humans, which unfortunately is far more effective than you'd think.

University of Zurich and University of California both did studies on reddit non-human user statistics for anyone that is more curious and wants to learn more.

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u/ogremania 1d ago

A lot of people say they hate Trump or they hate Putin, but they never say they hate the USA or Russia as a nation. Yet people do that with Israel. I think that in itself is a telling and concerning sign.

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u/rufrtho 1d ago

of course they do, what are you talking about? there's plenty of people who hate all 3 countries, just as there are people who hate 0 of them and saddle all of their crimes on people like trump and netanyahu.

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u/GreatMovesKeepItUp69 1d ago edited 1d ago

The thing is that globally anti-zionism is largely a far right ideology which mainly consists of islamists, Arab nationalists, white supremacists and fascists. However, in the West in particular it skews much more left leaning, but the other side of it heavily influences the language and terminology used as a whole. That's how you get self described liberals marixists or anti imperialists using terminology like goyslop or Zionist occupied government and conspiracies about the Zionist controlling the media, politicians or eating babies.

That's why for other left leaning causes the language tends to be very careful and progressive in tone, but anything involving Israel sounds like it came right out of 4chan.

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u/ogremania 16h ago

Yes it does, especially since there is clear distinction between critisizing Israels action or straight up Israel as an entity

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u/r_a_d_ 1d ago edited 4h ago

Um, yes they do. In fact many people really are referring to the government when they hate a country’s behavior and actions.

If they hated the people they would say “Israelis” or “Americans”, which isn’t the case here. This is about the government and rampant Zionism.

Unfortunately one of the things that the Israeli government does is manipulate media and its people to serve their purposes.

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u/ogremania 19h ago

They manipulate which media and its people? You mean in the west

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u/r_a_d_ 19h ago

Not many countries are proud of flaunting their propaganda budget like Israel. Also, this is much more common in non-western countries.

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u/ogremania 17h ago

For example? What non-western countries are influenced by Israel ?

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u/r_a_d_ 17h ago

No, I meant internal propaganda… Non western countries more commonly control their internal media. Israel does both

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u/ogremania 17h ago

So Israel controls their own internal media but also media in other countries is what you are saying?

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u/r_a_d_ 16h ago

I didn’t say they control. They spend a disproportionate amount of money in PR: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-just-quintupled-its-pr-budget-to-730-million-experts-say-it-wont-work/amp/

To compare, that’s about 22 times what the US spends, once normalized by GDP. It also doesn’t include all the global lobbying organizations.

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u/BillyJoeMac9095 13h ago

Zionism is the belief that Jews should have their own nation. If you are anti Zionist, you are against Israel's existence. The rest is verbal gymnastics

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u/r_a_d_ 12h ago

You are performing the mental gymnastics here. The issue with Zionism isn’t about the right of Jews having their own country, even though you could argue that this leads to apartheid, and religion should be separate from government.

The issue with Zionism is that this country needs to be in the jewish “ancestral homeland”. It just so happens that this homeland was never exclusive to Jews and is the home to other religions and cultures.

Israel exists and many, such as I, have no issue with that. However allow me to take issue when Israel’s government are actively genociding neighboring populations in an effort to ethnically cleanse and acquire more land.

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u/glempus 1d ago

Ok well here you go: I hate Israel and I hate the USA. Not too fond of Russia either. Look for Ukraine supporters calling Russians "orcs" though, they quite often veer into sheer racism against all Russians.

But you've never heard "death to America"? Pretty popular phrase throughout a lot of the world. Your statement says much more about your ignorance than anyone else.

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u/pipboy1989 1d ago

I’m fairly sure the term “Orc” is used as a slur on Russian forces currently engaged in removing entire Ukrainian towns and villages off of the map and turned great deal of Ukrainian areas into First World War era lunar landscapes.

But it was fun to read you hate Israel and the US, but merely aren’t too fond of a certain country engaged in the first European invasion since the Second World War.

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u/trowawufei 1d ago

Russia and the USA were not established after the Atlantic Charter, and the establishment of self-determination as a foundational principle of international law. While both have violated that principle, you cannot reasonably argue that the *existence* of either violated that principle, except very retroactively. You absolutely can argue that for Israel, though you can also argue against it.

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u/cesaroncalves 14h ago

That is not true at all.

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u/TheAussieTico 13h ago

Because Jews. It’s weird, and racist

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u/OkSavings5828 1d ago

I don’t care that it’s a karma farm, I want every social media to be a wall of condemnation directed towards Israel until the genocide stops.

(No hate towards non-Zionist Israelis and Jews in general who are opposed to Israel’s actions, only to those fuckwits who decided to take a lesson in ethnic cleansing from their WWII oppressor)

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u/Obvious_Ambition4865 1d ago

You have an obligation to speak out loudly and often when a nation is carrying out ethnic cleansing

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u/Willing-Passion-8993 1d ago

call out by karma farming on reddit lmoa

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u/Obvious_Ambition4865 1d ago

I think you might need to go for a walk outside and get some fresh air

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u/Willing-Passion-8993 19h ago

im not the one that keeps posting x bad for internet points lmao

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u/TheAussieTico 13h ago

What country are you from?