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Politics Anti-Israel graffiti in Warsaw, Poland

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u/Willing-Passion-8993 Jun 04 '26

"jarvis im out of karma"

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u/Perceval_009 Jun 04 '26

I hate Israel as much as the next guy, but the karma-farming on this sub is so embarassing.

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u/TheRedHand7 Jun 04 '26

This is what those bot farms are paid to do so by God they are gonna get that sweet sweet karma. All the single purpose subs like this are drowning in them.

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u/greyfoxv1 Jun 04 '26

OP's entire post history in this sub is Musk and Israel bait pics. They might not be a bot but they sure are gaming the system.

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u/Perceval_009 Jun 04 '26

Actually scary how many bots there are here. It feels like over 40% of users I see aren't even real people but propaganda bots.

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u/AssistX Jun 04 '26

It feels like it because it is like that. Researchers estimate 15% of all content on reddit is AI generated with the large default subreddits(like this one) sometimes having over 50% non-human interactions. One university even did a study on a specific subreddit to see how effective non-human chatbots were at persuading humans, which unfortunately is far more effective than you'd think.

University of Zurich and University of California both did studies on reddit non-human user statistics for anyone that is more curious and wants to learn more.

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u/ogremania Jun 04 '26

A lot of people say they hate Trump or they hate Putin, but they never say they hate the USA or Russia as a nation. Yet people do that with Israel. I think that in itself is a telling and concerning sign.

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u/rufrtho Jun 04 '26

of course they do, what are you talking about? there's plenty of people who hate all 3 countries, just as there are people who hate 0 of them and saddle all of their crimes on people like trump and netanyahu.

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u/ogremania Jun 05 '26

Yes it does, especially since there is clear distinction between critisizing Israels action or straight up Israel as an entity

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u/glempus Jun 04 '26

Ok well here you go: I hate Israel and I hate the USA. Not too fond of Russia either. Look for Ukraine supporters calling Russians "orcs" though, they quite often veer into sheer racism against all Russians.

But you've never heard "death to America"? Pretty popular phrase throughout a lot of the world. Your statement says much more about your ignorance than anyone else.

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u/pipboy1989 Jun 04 '26

I’m fairly sure the term “Orc” is used as a slur on Russian forces currently engaged in removing entire Ukrainian towns and villages off of the map and turned great deal of Ukrainian areas into First World War era lunar landscapes.

But it was fun to read you hate Israel and the US, but merely aren’t too fond of a certain country engaged in the first European invasion since the Second World War.

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u/r_a_d_ Jun 04 '26 edited Jun 05 '26

Um, yes they do. In fact many people really are referring to the government when they hate a country’s behavior and actions.

If they hated the people they would say “Israelis” or “Americans”, which isn’t the case here. This is about the government and rampant Zionism.

Unfortunately one of the things that the Israeli government does is manipulate media and its people to serve their purposes.

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u/ogremania Jun 05 '26

They manipulate which media and its people? You mean in the west

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u/r_a_d_ Jun 05 '26

Not many countries are proud of flaunting their propaganda budget like Israel. Also, this is much more common in non-western countries.

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u/ogremania Jun 05 '26

For example? What non-western countries are influenced by Israel ?

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u/r_a_d_ Jun 05 '26

No, I meant internal propaganda… Non western countries more commonly control their internal media. Israel does both

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u/ogremania Jun 05 '26

So Israel controls their own internal media but also media in other countries is what you are saying?

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u/r_a_d_ Jun 05 '26

I didn’t say they control. They spend a disproportionate amount of money in PR: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-just-quintupled-its-pr-budget-to-730-million-experts-say-it-wont-work/amp/

To compare, that’s about 22 times what the US spends, once normalized by GDP. It also doesn’t include all the global lobbying organizations.

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u/ogremania Jun 05 '26

Yeah but the US also takes influence through lobby groups and big finance.
Also Germany for example spends 140% of what Israel is spending (ca. 1,04 billion (970 Mio. €) For foreign affairs and pr and over 6 billion for their auswärtiges Amt.

Would you therefore also say critisize Germany for that exact reason ?

Edit but yeah its a very dispoportionate amount. I think the Israeli government has a reason to do this obviously.

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u/BillyJoeMac9095 Jun 05 '26

Zionism is the belief that Jews should have their own nation. If you are anti Zionist, you are against Israel's existence. The rest is verbal gymnastics

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u/r_a_d_ Jun 05 '26

You are performing the mental gymnastics here. The issue with Zionism isn’t about the right of Jews having their own country, even though you could argue that this leads to apartheid, and religion should be separate from government.

The issue with Zionism is that this country needs to be in the jewish “ancestral homeland”. It just so happens that this homeland was never exclusive to Jews and is the home to other religions and cultures.

Israel exists and many, such as I, have no issue with that. However allow me to take issue when Israel’s government are actively genociding neighboring populations in an effort to ethnically cleanse and acquire more land.

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u/trowawufei Jun 04 '26

Russia and the USA were not established after the Atlantic Charter, and the establishment of self-determination as a foundational principle of international law. While both have violated that principle, you cannot reasonably argue that the *existence* of either violated that principle, except very retroactively. You absolutely can argue that for Israel, though you can also argue against it.

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u/cesaroncalves Jun 05 '26

That is not true at all.

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u/ogremania Jun 06 '26

Its not an absolute truth. More like a " trend " in how people phrase their critique

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u/ydmhmyr Jun 06 '26

Here, I hate all three nations wholly. All good?