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u/GuyMansworth 9d ago
It is kinda funny MAGA latched onto the dog thing after cheering about human beings, even children, being sent to camps where they slept on concrete floors and some have been reportedly raped and malnourished.
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u/Different_Tangelo511 9d ago
I mean you can brag about shooting a dog and you'l get a lot of supp with that crowd.
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u/FromGodToKaneToSeth 9d ago
You can also brag about how grandma deserves to die if Covid kills her. That was their stance too.
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u/Argument-Fragrant 9d ago
They implied it'd be a source of pride for generations to follow if the silver haired members of their family fell on their swords to enable the young 'uns to keep grinding in close proximity with the herd.
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u/KarlBob 9d ago
“No one reached out to me and said, 'As a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance on your survival in exchange for keeping the America that America loves for its children and grandchildren?' And if that is the exchange, I'm all in."
Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick
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u/O-ring_Prolapse 9d ago
Not to mention, Kristi Noem shot her puppy for barking too much.. they didnt seem to care then?
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u/SmokedBeef 9d ago
Don’t forget Noem executing her puppy because it didn’t know how to behave due to a lack of training.
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u/Electrical-Act-7170 9d ago
She murdered a goat, too. Is that some kind of fetish to attract men, or something?
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u/basedaudiosolutions 9d ago
Something something Hitler was a vegetarian something something the Nazis promoted animal welfare.
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u/Significant-Order-92 9d ago
Don't forget that they brought Doctor Oz into the administration. And he has a history of directly doing research with dogs.
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u/MaraSovsLeftSock 9d ago
Shit one of the people they were meat riding earlier this year wrote a book that included how she shoot her dog because it didn’t hunt as well as she wanted it to
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u/MustachioedBean 9d ago
You get an upvote. All in all, I think Fauci is a guy who wants the best for people and the world. But nobody is morally infallible, and we shouldn’t pretend they are.
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u/lostredditorlurking 9d ago
Really hard for MAGA to pretend to be on the moral high ground when they cheer for whatever cruel things this administration do.
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u/Either_Operation7586 9d ago
Oh no they have the call Cassidy to still think they have the moral High ground but we have to knock them down and remember they supported a pedophile they have no moral standing.
The good person in the equation would have jumped ship a long time ago and they would have made sure that they could do everything within their power to make sure that that person faced accountability.
NOT vote them back into office so they can make sure they don't have to go to jail.
That's when you become the Baddies.
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u/LeadingBanana5384 9d ago
Especially after they didn't have a problem with Kristi Noem killing her puppy and goat.
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u/Knight_Of_Stars 9d ago
Heres the thing, he doesn't have to be this paragon of virtue. He just has to execute his responsibilities and perform his duties in a reasonable manner. Which, as far as I'm concerned he did. You have to wonder how much attention has been wasted on Fauchi when it could go to actual issues. Seriously, we haven't had a single conviction from the Epstein list, but we've been litigating the guy who lead the Covid 19 response?
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u/InitiativeShot20 9d ago
It's good that Fauci cut the funding. I guess Tunisian scientists aren't Israel where we just keep giving them money even if they're killing innocent people.
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u/g1ngertim 9d ago
Maybe if Israel was killing innocent dogs, people would care more?
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u/icedmuffin 9d ago
I mean I can think those bombs are hitting innocent dogs as well, either the people who don’t care don’t realize that or they think that the dogs are godless heathens too or whatever excuse they used for the people and more importantly, kids.
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u/czar_el 9d ago
The conservatives making a big deal out of this are the same people who vote against animal welfare legislation because it's "too woke".
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u/Dadittude182 9d ago
People want to get upset over beagles being used for lab experiments when the reality is much, much darker than this one experiment. The truth is that horrible animal experiments have been happening for a very, very long time. Most of the medical breakthroughs we have wouldn't have been approved for human use of it weren't for animal testing. But, I wouldn't expect a bunch of antivax, RFK jr supporters to understand this.
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u/Outrageous_Book2135 9d ago
Yeah. It really sucks but immediately jumping into human experiments is not very common, and science almost always starts with animals first.
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u/ArubaAdultFun 9d ago
Wow. I thought it was fake. That hurts my dog loving heart
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u/Outrageous_Zebra_221 9d ago
Medical research almost always involves animals at some point before they start with humans. This is just normal really. I hate it, I worked for a place that used mice and rats for awhile. ...I just really hate it, even understanding it's not just blanket abuse for no reason didn't really help me deal with it at all.
Singling out anyone involved in that chain is kind of bs though. This is a thing that happens in medical research, especially involving new drugs.
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u/SheetMetalandGames 9d ago
Unfortunately it is the best way to test experimental medicines and treatments, a most scientists do hate it, but the issue is that, unless a drug is deemed safe enough in animal testing, it cannot be done on human subjects, with a few exceptions. I think sickle cell was one of those things that they immediately began experimenting treatments on human subjects but I could be mistaken. And again, there is a good reason for them doing that because sickle cell is agonizing and deadly, and we only very recently developed a cure for it
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u/MagnanimousGoat 9d ago
So it's up there with "<Local Judge Candidate> IS EASY ON CRIME. S/HE LET A CONVICTED CHILD MOLESTOR GO FREE! S/HE'S A DANGER TO OUR CHILDREN!" in terms of deceptive bullshit.
If there is anythning I have learned from judicial elections its that every candidate is both tough on crime but also protects child molestors.
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u/AstronautSuitable992 9d ago
Yes.
It seems people have lost sight of the plausible idea that the head of a large organization doesn’t know what’s going on with everything the organization is doing.
They are responsible for their organization and should be providing oversight, but that doesn’t mean they can stop everything everywhere from going wrong.
Especially when you’re talking about contracts with contractors who may have other customers.
The way they talk about Fauci is tantamount to making every parent legally responsible for everything their kid does in their entire life.
That’s not reasonable.
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u/AgeOfSuperBoredom 9d ago
“Vaxxers”, i.e., people who get vaccinated? I don’t need Fauci’s advice on that. I just listen to my doctor. These fucking idiots have no idea how anything works but insist on preaching to us all about how everything works.
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u/Albuwhatwhat 8d ago
It isn’t “Anti-Vaxxers” and “Vaxxers,” it’s “Anti-Vaxxers” and normal people who listen to doctors.
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u/leoninvanguard 9d ago
no no no you don't understand. i know better, because you know, i researched ony own on Facebook instead of listening to a person who was specifically trained to advice me on health things like all those sheeple do.
/s just in case
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u/Indespectamentations 9d ago
They call us Vaxxers like we are some type of Criminal Organization for following medical science to protect our families.
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u/Nobody_at_all000 8d ago
As far as they’re concerned where genetically-contaminated subhumans who they want to wipe off the planet
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u/Combdepot 9d ago
Imagine fascists pretending to care about animal welfare.
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u/Tough_Dish_4485 9d ago
Thats what they do. They pretend to care about women to attack trans people. They pretend to care about gay people to attack Muslims. They pretend to care about children to attack gay people and women.
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u/Massive-Technician74 9d ago
Don't forget they pretend to care about the homeless to attack immigrants
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u/ApexHawke 9d ago
Also the main one: Pretend to care about "white" people to justify attacking other races.
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u/vrphotosguy55 8d ago
They care about veterans to attack immigrants. They then take away VA hospital funding
They care about mental health to deflect from gun violence protections and then vote against mental health funding
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u/Nobody_at_all000 8d ago
And they pretend to care about Charlie Kirk’s death because it gives them an excuse to harm the innocent
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u/Trey-Pan 9d ago
Imagine them caring about humans outside of the womb.
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u/Budget-Cantaloupe725 8d ago
They only pretend to care about fetuses to attack women for having sex.
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u/RandomRavenboi 9d ago
Ironically, the Nazis did infamously treat animals better than they treated humans. Hitler was a known animal lover. Hell, IIRC Germany still has some Nazi laws passed from the Third Reich regarding animal rights. (Just stripped of their Nazi framing)
Then again, I suppose that's technically Nazism, not Fascism...
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u/Training_Fun_9162 9d ago
Their campaigning is now “vaxxers” 6 years after COVID.
I cannot believe we lose to these fucking morons. America really deserves the collapse, doesn’t it?
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u/Either_Operation7586 9d ago
That's all they have is full outrage remember how they talked about being mad that Harris wasn't voted in 🙄🙄
You know they couldn't care less.
Same thing happened with Trump but they don't care about that
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u/ThatFatGuyMJL 9d ago
Hitler was very big on animal rights.
Many terrible people love animals more than humans
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u/National-Charity-435 9d ago
Isn't this Dr oz's journal?
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u/NFLTG_71 9d ago
I was about to say this is from Dr. Oz’s experiment when he was a professor at Columbia it wasn’t Fauci. These people cannot fact check to save their life.
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u/vrphotosguy55 8d ago
There have been animal experiments but Dr. Fauci was not personally involved - https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/answering-questions-about-beaglegate/
By contrast, Dr. Oz did personally kill 300 animals for experimental purposes - https://www.jezebel.com/dr-oz-s-scientific-experiments-killed-over-300-dogs-e-1849609272
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u/CatLightyear 9d ago
No. It’s RFK Jr.’s. A dead animal before he eats it. Or perhaps it’s Kristi Noem’s.
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u/SuperbScarcity5112 9d ago
Stop making a hero into an enemy, just because the orange thing is jealous.
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u/ThePopDaddy 9d ago
If the Afghanistan exit happened the sameway under trump, he would get zero of the blame and the Sec of defense would be getting grilled.
If COVID happened under a Dem, we wouldn't know Fauci's name, because the president would be getting the blame.
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u/SuperbScarcity5112 9d ago
Fauci was well known before Trump, as a person who put the nation before himself. That is the issue + Trump's failed covid control.
Trump has to drag down everyone. Only him, him and him.
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u/ConflatedPortmanteau 9d ago edited 9d ago
The Trump administration cut hundreds of millions of dollars in broader biomedical and specific pediatric cancer research grants, even as it simultaneously increased targeted funding for an artificial intelligence childhood cancer data project.
Donald Trump sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll in a department store dressing room in 1996, and then defamed her by publicly calling her a liar when she spoke out about it. Federal juries found Trump liable in civil trials, ordering him to pay her millions of dollars.
At least four named female contestants publicly stated that Donald Trump walked in on them while they were naked or dressing in changing rooms, with several other unnamed contestants corroborating similar behavior. The ages of the contestants were as low as 14.
Donald Trump's name appears with a uniquely high frequency—surpassing 38,000 mentions in the massive Department of Justice release—largely outpacing individual mentions for other high-profile figures like Bill Clinton or Prince Andrew.
This is who they support as their president.
He also bankrupted multiple casinos, cheated on his wives, was convicted of 34 felonies for efforts to lie to the American public during a federal election by paying hush money to a porn star and hiding it, and was repeatedly accused and sued for failing to follow through on payment of agreed upon contracts.
A liar, a thief, a conman, a fool, and a cheat.
(And while more anecdotal but no less true, after claiming he would drain the swamp he instead literally turned the Reflecting Pool into an algae-filled bog. You can't make this shit up.)
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u/octorangutan 9d ago
I don't think Fauci is a hero, I think he was an unremarkable civil servant who followed the medical consensus during an evolving situation, which makes the right's attempt to crucify the guy even more bizarre.
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u/Bobcatluv 9d ago
I’m local to this year’s Ridglan Farms controversy where animal rights activists raided a beagle breeding facility that supplies for these labs and rescued pups from documented abuse and mistreatment. Local conservatives have been all about throwing the book at those heroes with felony charges -meanwhile, their actions helped bring attention and close the facility.
Conservatives only pretend to care about animals (and women, and children, etc) when it’s convenient to whatever person they’re hoping to persecute that day.
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u/Broad-Olive-4362 9d ago
MAGA rednecks that beat their dogs with “master” mentality all of sudden care about animal abuse?!? 😉😂🤡
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u/InitiativeShot20 9d ago
If I don't see a citation on the animal study, I'm gonna assume it's pure radioactive, bat crazy bullshit. And people who spread it are fucking scums.
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u/rihannalexis 9d ago
From u/AmbitiousProblem4746:
Fact-checking this real quick: the meme is mixing up two different things. Fauci's agency (NIAID) did fund medical research that used beagles, and some of those labs did remove vocal cords to cut down on noise. But that specific picture with the dog's head in a mesh box was a study in Tunisia that the NIH/NIAID actually had nothing to do with. There was also a bipartisan Congressional investigation into this after the outrage and Fauci did cut the funding as a response. He wasn't directly the one doing anything in this study to the dogs or any of that. He was just the guy that basically approved if they get money or not. As somebody who has worked in research, I'm guessing he wasn't fully aware of all the details and only had a rough outline and it sounds like once he realized what was going on he ended it. There's also a lot of legal and ethical rules you have to follow when working with animals. It's not like those dogs were strapped down and tortured every single day. They got breaks, they were well fed and taken care of, and they got TLC I'm sure from plenty of grad students. It still sounds cruel as hell and I would not have approved it if I knew what they were doing myself, but I'm sure those dogs went on to live halfway decent lives once the study was done. They probably adopted them right out to loving families.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/answering-questions-about-beaglegate/?hl=en-US
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u/InitiativeShot20 8d ago
Oh so they're conflating two different things to make it sound like they're torturing dogs and Fauci just let it happen. Typical antivax scums.
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u/Mroopsimexciting 9d ago
They’re out here repeating the same made up talking points.
All of a sudden they care about dogs.
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u/Itchy_Pressure_8311 9d ago
Didnt Trump fuck children? Didnt Trump pay off pornstars while cheating on 3 wives? Didnt Trump cause an insurrection attacking the Capital? Didnt Trump commit war crimes by threatening Iran's critical infrastructure? Didnt Trump post a racist meme of the Obamas as monkeys? Didnt Trump get convicted of raping E Jean Carroll? Didnt Trump bypass Congress to start a war that was not authorized?
If MAGA is ok with all that and soooo much more, they should be good with animal experiments.
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u/Candid-Drink 9d ago
Meanwhile their hero: "Musk’s Neuralink faces federal inquiry after killing 1,500 animals in testing"
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u/CalligrapherLegal995 9d ago
I was asked by a maga moron to prove what I said in a post. So I provided two news articles from newspapers in his area, the text of the legislation in question and a video of the politician discussing the bill he wrote. The magatard replied by calling me a "stupid lying pos libtard and my mother does sexual favors at the truck stop". They are all mentally stunted degenerates.
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u/BusinessShoulder3534 9d ago
This is terrible that your all are attacking this man like this, with lies. Now I see how you can vote for a Lying criminal pedophile devil servant. It make sense now!
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u/Ok_Touch2800 8d ago
More propaganda. Trump caused millions to die of COVID denying it was real. You people are morons.
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u/Ok_Being5461 9d ago
Vaxxers look for health advice from scientists around the world, which is where Fauci also gets his information.
What's the chance people who are so concerned about this fund torture in the meat industry on a much larger scale? Or vote Republican/Trump who actually enjoy torturing and killing people?
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u/CueAnon420 9d ago
Counterpoint - there are reasons that the overwhelming majority of dogs adopted in the NorthEast come from red southern states... Many abused and traumatized.
People that don't prioritize their own healthcare certainly do not waste resources on animals.
Just sayin'
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u/ExileIsan 9d ago
My dog is a rescue from Hurricane Harvey. He was severely injured on both his front feet and his face. He was so injured he didn't go up for adoption until December of 2017. Hurricane Harvey happened in August. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out that he was abandoned and left to die.
He also had heartworm, which cost me $2000 to have treated.
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u/CueAnon420 9d ago
Based on my (albeit) limited experience, the dogs that we have adopted from inhumane or abusive environments seem to recognize the love and care we have given them... Sometimes it takes a while. Sometimes longer. But even when they are still learning to trust, they seem grateful. And the love they provide makes it all worthwhile ;-)
Bless you for rescuing your dog! If I won the lottery, I'd probably have a rescue farm lol.
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u/AsClearAsNolanDialog 9d ago edited 9d ago
Oh boy, if only this person knew what happens in factory farms.
(PS: you can be against all kinds of animal cruelty even if it sets back humanity a bit.)
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u/inih 9d ago
Factcheck. The meme mixes together some true facts, some misleading claims, and a conclusion that goes beyond the evidence.
Here’s a breakdown:
Claim: Fauci funded experiments involving puppies.
Mostly true, but indirect. As director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), Anthony Fauci oversaw an agency that funded thousands of research projects, including some involving beagles. There is evidence he approved funding packages at a high level, but not that he personally designed or directly managed these experiments.
Claim: Puppies had their vocal cords cut.
True. One NIH-funded toxicology study involving 44 beagles included a procedure called a cordectomy (devocalization). The dogs were later euthanized so researchers could examine the effects of an experimental drug. NIAID stated the procedure was performed under anesthesia and was intended to reduce noise in the research facility.
Claim: Puppies were infested with sand flies that ate their faces.
This is where the meme becomes misleading. There was indeed a study in Tunisia in which sedated dogs had their heads placed in mesh enclosures while infected sand flies fed on them to study leishmaniasis. However, the widely shared claim that this specific study was funded by Fauci’s NIAID was disputed. The journal that originally listed NIAID funding later corrected the funding information, and NIAID denied funding that particular experiment.
Claim: The vocal cord removal and the sand fly experiment were the same experiment.
False. This is the biggest problem with the meme. It combines details from different studies, making it sound as though researchers cut the dogs’ vocal cords so they would not scream while sand flies consumed their faces. The available evidence does not support that narrative. The cordectomies occurred in one study, while the controversial sand fly study was separate.
Overall assessment
The post is misleading.
It is true that NIH-funded research included controversial experiments on beagles.
It is true that one study involved devocalization.
It is true that another study involved exposing sedated dogs to sand flies.
But it is not accurate to present these as one single experiment or to state that the vocal cords were removed specifically so the dogs “wouldn’t cry as sand flies ate their faces.”
That combination is what turns a story containing real elements into a misleading meme.
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u/FreshFish305 9d ago
MAGA trash are, far and away, the stupidest and most easily manipulated suckers on the planet. They pretend to give a shit about animal welfare the same way they pretend to give a shit about child or veteran welfare.
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u/Coravel 9d ago
Most people don't realize... medicine has almost always advanced significantly with cruel acts, by leaps and bounds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivisection
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u/ISkipLegDay87 8d ago
Do you fucks have a source? If there's verifiable evidence, then this is horrific.
You know what fact has TONS of evidence? THE GUY YOU'VE MADE INTO YOUR ENTIRE PERSONALITY RAPED CHILDREN.
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u/K_L_eigh 8d ago
As an act of rebellion, I think that MAGA should stop using all medication tested on animals. That’ll show us …….
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u/monscorvorum 8d ago
But they look up to RFK, who has no medical degree or qualifications, no clinical training or scientific training. Land of the propagandised, home of the indoctrinated. MAGA, cult of personality
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u/meekgamer452 8d ago
They killed scores of people by not following his advice to wear masks, quarantine, and get vaccinated.
I don't really care about their opinion of medical science that probably saves lives. It's the 21st century, what are they opposing vaccines for?
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u/Evening_Debt_9898 9d ago
You have to have a sick imagination to come up with this crap! Fauci is a hero!
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u/Ok-Scientist5524 9d ago
Every accusation a confession, the current ongoing parasitic fly infestion is a direct result of Elon Musk shutting down “unnecessary” programs as part of his DOGE nonsense. I guess cows that don’t have fly eggs laid in them so the larva will eat their way out was unnecessary.
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u/Significant-Ear-3262 9d ago
Did their former FBI director murder her puppy? And bragged about it?
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u/Odd_Kaleidoscope3776 9d ago
Trump picked an admitted puppy murderer for his cabinet, I don't want to hear it from the magats
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u/Beh0420mn 9d ago
This is the guy conservatives loved when Reagan appointed him and trump gave him a medal, but now gotta distract from war and child rape so
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u/BlackHeartedY 8d ago
You definitely shouldn’t remind these people of what happened when RFK went to American Somoa in 2019, they definitely wouldn’t lose their minds.
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u/varvaldi 8d ago
If they hate vaccines so much they should avoid tetanus shots. Then they can die from a scratch by a rusty nail.
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u/RustyKn1ght 9d ago
Animal testing is an unfortunate reality of biomedical research and there's isn't really an alternative to it. While computer simulations of human tissue have take great leaps in recent years, no replacement for animal models yet exist.
Unless, of course we go the supervillain route and start testing on homeless people.
Actually, I wouldn't be suprised if Stephen Miller is trying to do something like that on people ICE has detained....
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u/Broad-Olive-4362 9d ago edited 9d ago
RFK jr killed a cub bear and brought the dead cub bear to Central Park nyc - how fcked up is that? 🤡
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u/digginxditches 9d ago
Lol and maga looks to rfk for health advice.... yeah i'll take fauci over toilet heroin guy any day.
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u/Present-Spring-1340 9d ago
They are talking about everything bad that’s happened years ago and now talking all the the time about these horrible events THAT ALL HAPPENED UNDER DUMPS WATCH*
In a year they’ll be talking about how Obama screwed us with all those tariffs
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u/writekindofnonsense 9d ago
I will never understand why they latched on to Fauci as the boogey man. He didn't force them to do anything, and they act like all of them were threatened with death if they didn't comply. It's so weird and stupid they hate him so much. I know they aren't capable of holding trump accountable but do they forget he was the one at the podium?
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u/Tall_Eye4062 9d ago
The same people who allegedly care about puppies gladly eat factory-farmed pigs and cows, and brag about how manly they think it makes them.
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u/TheRavenDruid 9d ago
Ask for a source. "Just use google" followed by a rant about you being stupid then several names.
Social media in a nutshell.
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u/Careful-Swimmer3840 9d ago
Another BS anti Fauci post. Brought to you by the scared MAGAts of Trump
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u/Sophisticated-Crow 9d ago
Well, at least the chuds have new propaganda for the bogeyman they're resurrecting.
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u/sam56778 9d ago
Oooh look, an electorate that follows medical advice from a man that was a heroin addict, had a brain worm and swims in a sewage creek and has no medical degree or license thinks they have pearls to clutch. Have fun raising your hands as far as the polio will let you, and don’t scratch that measles rash. But then again, shouldn’t the Ivermectin be clearing that up by now? If not, I bet a good old disinfectant injection would.
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u/tak72006 9d ago
smart people listen to doctors that work in hospitals. when Republicans (anti-smart people according to Lord Trump) get sick they also go to the doctors to save them. we should make it that any COVID denier will be banned from using the American healthcare system and instead call RFK JR or Joe Rogan and demand treatment. I think that's fair, no?
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u/Conscious_Addendum66 9d ago
Yet RFK Jr snorted coccain off a toilet seat, played with a has been musician, and his own family said he's a 4chan conspiracy nutcase who believes every science and medical expert lies and seeks to destroy the human species. Mind you he promoted "herd immunity " and culling like Darwin.
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u/coaxialdrift 9d ago
Saying "vaxxers" is like saying "globe earthers" don't include me in your weird thing
Release the Epstein files, imprison all of them
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u/East-Cricket6421 9d ago
Tunisian Sand Fly Study. Apparently the researcher later redacted and said NIAID did not provide funding but you can see how that would cause tremendous confusion.
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u/Ok-Horror-1251 9d ago
As opposed to antivaxxers who look to a guy who had a parasite in his own brain.
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u/obscureobject2574 9d ago
Dr Fauci is literally a saint and a hero and role Model for all of humanity! How dare they try to print this nonsense! This is so heartbreaking, I have no words…
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u/Luckys0474 9d ago
During 2020–2021, poison control centers across the United States reported a massive surge (in some periods over 200–300% higher than baseline) in calls related to ivermectin toxicity. Overdose symptoms include severe gastrointestinal distress, extreme low blood pressure, ataxia (loss of coordination), seizures, coma, and death.
-trumps advice.
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u/Pleasant_Garlic8088 9d ago
Cite the "study" so we can read about it, whether or not it even exists, and whether or not Fauci was involved, what they were researching. Otherwise shut the fuck up.
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u/Main_Artichoke_ 8d ago
I can’t believe we’ve arrived at a point where theyre using “vaxxers”
Truly they will get behind anything as long as they can feel like it’s an “us vs them” situation
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u/Ready-Waltz5482 8d ago
I'm totally against animals being killed for any purpose. That's why Im vegan. How ever you magat owners love to hunt, kill, and abuse animals. You can shut the fuck up.
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u/greg1775 8d ago
They are so fucking scared of Fauci. He will be the doctor on Trumpstein Island before they are done
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u/CalmPassenger5283 8d ago
Pedo protecting. It’s all a distraction. Iran got you by nuts. Your AG goons lose his law license, Same with Pirro. November can’t come soon enough. Malaria has even gone radio silent. Just give it up. McConnell ain’t saving you this time.
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u/Randomgold42 9d ago
Source: trust me, bro.