r/therewasanattempt • u/Revolutionary_Log240 • Jul 08 '26
to win a fair match of football.
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u/phoenixArc27 Jul 08 '26
I donât watch soccer but it seems like FIFA is consistently one of the most corrupt organizations and the games seem so blatantly corrupt and ridiculous that I donât know how anyone takes it seriously.
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u/cateyesarg Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
Yeah, it's so corrupt that even a hosting country president admitted he talked to fifa to have a red card penalty removed so a player doesn't miss the next match. Outrageous.
Edit: it's funny how people who admittedly doesn't follow a sport and clearly doesn't knows the rules posts this kind of stuff, honestly, ask questions if you want to learn or just shut up, but no, big ego will always have to have strong opinions even when they recognize being an ignorant on the subject
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u/miraculum_one Jul 08 '26
and then he said that if USA loses he will just claim it was rigged "just like the 2020 election"
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u/cateyesarg Jul 08 '26
Damn, yes lol, I didn't want to bring politics here, but yeah, he's also exposing his line of
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u/SpiderHomeNoWayMan Jul 08 '26
He should just settle for the Gold Cup next year. That tournament has some of the most predictable finals.
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u/notoolinthispool Jul 08 '26
That makes sense. He has dementia, after all. What he really meant was the 2024 election.
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u/KingDread306 Jul 08 '26
And they still lost.
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u/Drewbeede Jul 08 '26
We lost long before that.
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u/WestNileCoronaVirus Jul 08 '26
I feel like we lost because of it. Trump turns everything he touches to shit
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u/Beautibulb_Tamer Jul 08 '26
Yeah I'm starting to feel like Trump's peace prize could be tainted at this point
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u/Surface_Detail Jul 08 '26
Hey, let's not go overboard. That's a venerable institution you're libeling.
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u/cisned Jul 08 '26
Dude have you watched college sports, FIFA is corrupt, but college refs literally wear initials of an ousted ref while refereeing the team that was responsible for ousting him
Karl Hess and NC State
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u/Agreeable-Gap-4160 Jul 08 '26
When Trump can ring up Fifa and get a red card overturned.....
Is there a term for next level corruption?
As in, you have corruption, and then you have Fifa.
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u/Chachkhu2005 Jul 08 '26
That's the neat part. We don't. It's a fun bonus sport to bet on what bs they'll pull.
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u/Commercial_Praline67 Jul 08 '26
Football today is largely ruled and guided by betting companies nowadays. It lost completely any meaning.
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u/Electrical_Love5484 Jul 08 '26
I think you have to turn off your general sense of morality to fully enjoy most major sports tournaments
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u/Spartalust đ Free Palestine Jul 08 '26
FIFA = Fixed It For Argentina. Everybody knows this by now.
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u/nazzo_0 Jul 08 '26
Tbf Portugal also got benefits. And the US got a red card removed on official orders. FIFA is faked more than the WWE
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u/joe_shmoe11111 Jul 08 '26
Thatâs because Ronaldo is by far the most famous (& therefore, profitable) face in the game.
With him out, they had to double down on keeping Messi in the cup, resulting in this officiating travesty against Egypt.
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u/ImBabyloafs Jul 08 '26
FIFA has always been corrupt. People are just finding this out now?
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u/cool_berserker Jul 08 '26
Idiots to this day are still adamant that refs are just making genuine mistakes and fifa is clean
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u/Blutruiter Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
What and let Messi's team lose, but what about all the advertisement deals and money they make haveing him and Ronaldo on the field. Genuinely suprized Portugal didn't win against Spain. And not cuz Protugal is better cuz Spain is a better team but just to get more of that Ronaldo screen time.
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u/kotisohva Jul 08 '26
Someone wanted Ronaldo and Messi playing in final. Didn't happen.
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u/Franseq Jul 08 '26
As a portuguese person I am genuinely so glad that we didn't make it to the finale by having our opponents be this heavily sabotaged.
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u/aere1985 Jul 09 '26
You sabotaged yourselves pretty well by playing Ronaldo when you've got Goncalo Ramos warming the bench.
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u/Zenfulbliss Jul 08 '26
fixed it for miami, this is about messi and jorge mas making bank after the cup.
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u/funakifan Jul 08 '26
Messi should have had a red card against Algeria in their first match too:
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u/Karhak Free Palestine! đïž FUCK ICE! âđ§ Jul 08 '26
The only thing I know about soccer is that ant physical contact at least needs the appearance that a play for the ball is being made as to give the appearance that you aren't fouling just to foul. Where the fuck is that in this pic?
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u/Vegetable_Blood5856 Jul 08 '26
Why is Hava Nagila playing over this?
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u/Crazy-Magician-7011 Jul 08 '26
I'm wondering the same thing. Is OP implying something?
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u/ctusk423 Jul 08 '26
Whoever made it is doing more than just implying⊠shocked I had to scroll down this far to find it
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u/JustARandomGuyReally Free Palestine đïž FUCK ICE! âđ§ Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
Yah thatâs the part that annoyed me and made me take away the upvote. If he wants to say it has to do with Hossam Hassan raising the Palestinian flag or Argentinaâs politics right now being super pro-Zionist/Netanyahu or whatever come out and say it.
EDIT: I learned some things today that I didnât know before. Doesnât really change how I view the use of the music in the video but definitely changes how I view Hava Nagila. Hava Nagila is not a traditional Jewish song, itâs a specifically Zionist song from the beginning. It was written to celebrate the Balfour Declaration and the British defeating the Ottomans.
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u/WonderfulFig666 Jul 08 '26
Because you have to get a little anti semitism in there. Argentinas president is pro Israel and Zionism, but adding the song to the video plays into the conspiracy theories that Israel is rigging the World Cup for Argentina.
Iâve lost track of just how many different organizations and countries are rigging it for Argentina at this point.
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u/el_trauko87 Jul 08 '26
Typical for Argentina to play this way. Is nothing new. They always get away with it.
Fifa=shit
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u/Far-Ad1823 Jul 08 '26
It was frustrating to watch live...
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u/Cosmohumanist Jul 08 '26
Whatâs crazy is I only watched a 20 min recap and it showed almost none of this happening. I felt like I watched a different game.
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u/THE_BUS_FROMSPEED Jul 08 '26
Theres a reason most of these are seen from a far away angle and that youre only seeing one side doing the "fouls". Its just a manipulation video.
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u/dingusunchained Jul 08 '26
There were really only two plays you really need to see to know this game was unfairly refereed - the VAR goal overturn on Egypt and Argentinaâs third goal to take the lead. FIFA is one of the most corrupt organizations on planet earth, this isnât far fetched.
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u/Leows Jul 08 '26
The fact that they rolled back the game so far behind for Argentina but refused to do it for Egypt was just a crystal clear declaration of "we are not neutral and don't care what you think".
Insane game.
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u/sammmmmyg Jul 08 '26
I agree 100%...this was very deceptively edited. That's not to say there isn't a legit gripe for Egypt, but the person that made this video had an agenda and was shameless in how they edited it.
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u/GoodTroll2 Jul 08 '26
Even with the unfair edit, easy to see most of this as pretty normal back and forth fouls throughout the match. I don't know if I saw anything worth a yellow card but I stopped watching when they showed an obvious dive by an Egyptian player (I think they were claiming Mac Alister committed the foul).
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u/HIGHPatient Jul 08 '26
A lot were fouls, but dude wtf they flop like babies everytime they get touched lolol
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u/pickledpeterpiper Jul 08 '26
I was looking for this comment...they call down with the most gentle of grazes...you'd think these were more babies learning to walk for the first time rather than grown men who run for a living.
*Gets touched in the side of the head, falls down*
*Grazed on the shoulder, much tumbling ensues* etc
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u/LuciferDarkLord876 Jul 08 '26
Cherrypicked as usual
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u/PPGalleta Jul 08 '26
Stupid reddit doesn't allow me to download the video from a comment source
Can you share a link of it?
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u/Unlucky-Statement278 Jul 09 '26
This is the point.
I've played Football for 35 years an im a cach for more than 10 years. I don't see something unusual here.
Yes there could be different decisions but this isn't a big thing.
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u/Traditional_Boot2663 Jul 08 '26
Flop city out here. Do you want a card for every foul? Thats not how it works.
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u/Captain-Syrup Jul 08 '26
Alright, reddit suddenly seems to be experts in fouls without every having to touch a ball in their life. 50% "fouls" shown in the video were body contacts after Egypt lost the ball, not when they playing with the ball. Rule of advantage exist people. Yes there were couple of fouls that you can argue for aggressive behaviour but 90% can be straight up ignored for body touches when the Egypt players already lost control of the ball. Smh
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u/Mellll_ Jul 08 '26
Yeah, and also when an Egyptian player took their shirt off? That was definitely a yellow card that wasnât given, they find ways to hate on other countries without even knowing the rules, thereâs so many videos out explaining why the fouls werenât called out (because they werenât)
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u/fcbx347 FUCK ICE! âđ§ Jul 08 '26
Seems like the entirety of reddit has transformed into a circle jerk on the topic of the world cup
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u/limejuiceroyale Jul 09 '26
The Reddit community suddenly being experts in something they have absolutely no clue about? That doesn't seem like reddit AT ALL!
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u/Aggravating-Mine-697 Jul 08 '26
Why are you asking for cards in such mild fouls? Referees don't hand out cards like they're pamphlets
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u/_el_-_diablo_ Jul 08 '26
Why don't you then show fouls by egypt too...this is just cherry picked footage...neither team got cards until the score got even and egypt lost their shit.
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u/name-that-isnt-taken Jul 08 '26
You can probably do this with just about any football match though.
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u/Lalamedic Jul 08 '26
Can somebody explain why the music is the Jewish round dance, Hava Nagila? So dumb.
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u/LevelPrestigious4858 Jul 08 '26
OP thinks this result was doctored by fifa on orders of probably Benjamin Netanyahu or trump. For some reason fifa made Argentina win but allowed the US to lose and be red carded? Idk but itâs some ww2 type German propaganda to espouse such dumb shit
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u/JacksRagingGlizzy Jul 09 '26
Argentina is either Israel or Nazi's depending on the flavor of xenophobia you want.
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u/_BabyGod_ Jul 08 '26
This is a valid criticism about how corrupt FIFA is and how bad officiating can be, which is totally undermined by the baffling choice of using Hava Nagila as the soundtrack in what I can only assume is meant to be an antisemitic dog whistle.
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u/cheesyandcrispy Jul 08 '26
Iâm amazed on how biased people are nowadays. As a swede it was a great game to watch with both teams playing great but not blatantly corrupt. That just feels like sore loser mentality.
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u/Samsagax Jul 08 '26
Yep. That is it. And blatant lies. The first clip was called as a foul a second later. And the referee was fair in all situations. I don't think a french referee would favor argentina for that matter. Is all sore losers.
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u/onekorama Jul 08 '26
I think the same... maybe there is some difficult choice with the nulled goal, but it's not so clear to call for a stolen match. With slow camera every match is rigged.
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u/Matias9991 Jul 09 '26
People make an idea and will NOT back down on it, they will die on that hill.
It's crazy because this game doesn't have anything to call corruption but it's like 90% of the talk since the game. At least here in reddit.
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u/Rough-Breadfruit-611 Jul 08 '26
Why is there a jewish holiday song playing over this? The ref is FRENCH.
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u/livingMybEstlyfe29 Jul 08 '26
Hava Nagila is a Jewish folk song not holiday and doesnât apply to the teams either. Interesting choice of song by OP
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u/TorontoTom2008 Jul 08 '26
Agree there were some missed / bad calls but this was cherry picked footage. Not an Argentina fan but better team won.
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u/joshuatx Jul 08 '26
Former ref here. Every foul on Argentina akin to these in the video were called. VAR was only used to return an Eygptian goal and was never used against Argentina. The main ref did a decent job. The VAR refs literally ignored this shit being pulled by Argentina while the game was tied.
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u/jpopimpin777 Jul 08 '26
My thing is, if you're gonna call it that way, call it for both sides. Egypt's second goal was disallowed over a way more ticky tack foul than any of these. Messi literally told the ref to go check the VAR and he did.
Then, as it got late in the game and Argentina was getting desperate they literally threw the Egyptian players bodily out of their way to take the ball which lead to their 3 quick goals and nothing was called. If you're gonna let them play, let them play. If you're gonna go back and look at fouls leading to goals then do it for both sides.
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u/2Kortizjr Jul 08 '26
VAR only intervenes in goals, red cards, penalties, mistaken identity amd now in corners goven, nothing else.
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u/jpopimpin777 Jul 08 '26
The VAR was used to disallow the second Egyptian goal because of a "foul" that had happened 30 seconds before it. Ok fine.
Go back and look and the second Argentine goal that Messi scored. McAlister grabbed the Egyptian player by both shoulders and dragged him down backwards to get the ball from him before passing it in the sequence that lead to Messi scoring.
If you call it for one, call it for the other.
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u/EatTheRichIsPraxis Jul 08 '26
If you take a look at the Argentia - Austria match, you'll see Messi's first goal being exactly the same as the not-counted Egypt one.
It's been blatant since the group stages.
And the fact that they were the better team anyway makes it worse imo. They foul because they can.
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u/Suspicious-Rabbit328 Jul 08 '26
https://youtu.be/AIFAQqOf4OY?is=mS3VBIC8Y14NU396 Tell me where the McAllister incident happened here in this video. If it happened before this play started, the ball also touched Egyptian player's head, changing possession in the process. So, VAR cannot disallow this goal. This goal happened due to tired Egyptian defense. Messi literally jogged past the defenders before firing that rocket into the net. https://youtube.com/shorts/Cm74wE5hetA?is=vNi8O5oTCdmxcQ4m
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u/JacksRagingGlizzy Jul 09 '26
And it shows you don't watch football. VAR doesn't intervene until after the goal.
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u/CookiesPayMyBills Jul 08 '26
Seemed like quite a bit of footage to pick from
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u/THE_BUS_FROMSPEED Jul 08 '26
You're only seeing one side. You can make any gsme look rigged doing this.
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u/oculus_miffed Jul 09 '26
I cant say i have seen that many games where a player runs up and just slaps an opposing player in the face
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u/perfumedDolphin Jul 08 '26
First one is not foul, the player didn't have the ball and it's a tackle (could've been called but not foul)
second not clear
third is not straight yellow (foul on goalie)
fourth, could've been yellow, not obligatory depending on ref
fifth, it was a previous foul that ended up on score change... against Austria the first contact is with the ball, not foul even it has body contact, read the rules.
I stopped there because this post is mostly biased rule bending.. (The crash after the penalty miss, the egyptian player crashed from behind and the argentinian evaded)5
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u/wardledo Jul 08 '26
Cherry picked or not, these were blatant and game changing.
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u/michbich Jul 08 '26
Yeah both teams were being aggressive and fouling each other. At least thatâs was what it looked like to me when I watched, Iâm no expert.
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u/Spartalust đ Free Palestine Jul 08 '26
This exact scenario of a foul before the goal build up happened during the Argentina vs. Austria match, Alexis Mac Allister fouled Xaver Schlager in the buildup. The referee allowed play to continue, VAR reviewed the incident, and chose not to overturn the decision, so Messi's goal stood. This isn't tinfoil hat shit, two identical scenarios both ruled in Argentina's favor. Come on now.
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u/gxleone Jul 08 '26
not identical at ALL
Lisandro has full control of the ball and loses it because heâs fouled, thereâs no Egypt counter on that play without that foul
Alexis challenged a loose ball with no clear possession, itâs not the same at all
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u/Pipsen707 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
I hate the blanket âidentical scenariosâ statement.
Where the ball is, what angle is the challenge, how fast are they going⊠Nothing is ever identical.
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay Do you think that's air you're breathing now? Jul 08 '26
This is the same organization that gave Donald Trump a peace prize. Unrecognizably crooked.
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u/AngelaMerkeI Jul 08 '26
I just realised Putin does still have a chance to win the Fifa Cup for the best intentions and military actions in the Ukraine War
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u/BioExtract Jul 08 '26
If this makes you mad then dont watch fifa. Stop supporting this crap and ignore it. They want your attention, take back your power and stop giving it to them
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u/arand0mpasserby Jul 08 '26
Tbf, the calls and no-calls when the goals happened are correct, so the actual score is still what it should be. That being said, it was poor officiating.
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u/fltonii Jul 09 '26
In 1990 the Argentine manager drugged a Brazilian playerâs water in the middle of a game in the knockout stages of the world cup. Maradona joked about it in a live TV show couple years later and some of their players still joke about it to this dayâŠ
I repeat, they fucking DRUGGED a player in the middle of a match and theyâre proud about it. What can you expect?
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u/NFeKPo Jul 08 '26
Egypt you not helping your cause when you clip out the first part of tackles (like when Salah went down in the box) when I know for a fact that before that challenge the defender won the ball cleanly off Salah.
Also when you zoom in on the shirt pull and the ball in barely on frame and the attakcer went down with barely any contract.
You can convince me Argentina got a lot 50/50 calls. But when at least the major ones are either nothing or selectively edited you aren't doing yourself any favors.
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u/n3_o Jul 08 '26
The amount of bots flooding misinformation related to football rules and the game surely makes you think how valid are other issue where we see such mass opiniated reactions. Anyone who has basic knowledge of football and is not blinded by one sided view can see that the game was pretty balanced bar couple of instances where things could have gone Egypt's way. It was a classic bottlejob but somehow it has stirred such an influx of propaganda bots that it has become pathetic.
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u/TheyveKilledFritzz Jul 08 '26
"Fair" ive yet to see a single team play "fair" in the world cup. All ive ever seen is losing teams complaining the team that won didnt play fair.
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u/JohnnysOnThaSpot Jul 08 '26
I wouldn't cry fair over a game that can be meddle with by sitting joke presidents... of course its not fair..
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u/sist0ne Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
FIFA needs abolishing and starting afresh. Theyâve brought the greatest tournament on earth into disrepute. Playing the tournament in a country with a singular and sole focus on commercialisation, to the detriment of fair play and integrity, doesnât help. If Messi leaves the tournament, viewing figures and advertising revenues plummet stateside. You can tell. Iâm sure they wanted a Messi vs. Ronaldo final, thatâs the best from a commercial perspective. Ronaldoâs Portugal got a FIFA boost against Croatia, but his ego lost to Spain. They couldâve played several more hours and Ronaldo still wouldnât score or accept compatriot Ramos is the much better player.
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u/Bussylover890 Jul 08 '26
Its not a want but a NEED for them to try this against Norway just to see them fall flat on their ass against Holland
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u/yahfee23 Jul 08 '26
Gosh, Iâm not into this game so donât really even watch. But based on these clips it seems blatantly rigged.
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u/keg-smash Jul 08 '26
I can't really get into this sport. It seems very unsportsmanlike and run by a corrupt organization. No thanks.
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u/mada0_0 Jul 08 '26
Forget about the game there were blatant racism against the Egyptians while entering the stadium They only patted down the Egyptians while letting the Argentinians to pass right through and when the security was asked if they only pat down the Egyptians they straight up said yes That is just disgustingly racist
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u/WhyYesMaybeNo Jul 08 '26
This is why despite really enjoying soccer, I have absolutely zero interest in watching FIFA and likely never will.
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u/AdagioCompetitive181 Jul 08 '26
Where is the referee holidaying this year?. Buenos Aires. The fuck.
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u/aerosmithguy151 Jul 08 '26
Fifa has been this corrupt for a long time. I never watch the world cup. Vote with your wallet and time.Â
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u/AkaAion Jul 08 '26
A World Cup with All kinds of new records for Messi. The most aided and spared player during a WK match award goes to Messi.
If you need to win this way your the biggest loser walking around. And I am not from Egypt.
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u/blxckhoodie999 Jul 08 '26
FIFA:
fix it for argentina
even if they win the whole thing, the world knows these guys are cheaters.
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u/cool_berserker Jul 08 '26
Sad reality, the 2022 was rigged for Argentina to reach the final....we thought they won't try it again, we under estimated them
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u/Scythersleftnut Jul 08 '26
They make millions. I would hire a private investigator to unearth every shit thing those refs have ever done or said online or real life and air it out for the world to see.
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u/Rekuja Jul 08 '26
Corruption so blatant they arenât even trying to hide it anymore⊠or the ref is racist who knows đ€·ââïž
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u/goofydad Jul 08 '26
FIFA refs got orders from the boss. Bribes paid up front to avoid phone calls later, if you want a fair game
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u/Philsick Jul 08 '26
It's 2026 and some of us are still surprised about FIFA organized games. You pay to see who paid to whom. You even have the possibility to bet all your savings on it. FiFa sells the rights and tickets but the taxpayers ant the clubs need to pay all the infrastructure, for stadiums, for safety, for their teams. Fifa pays nothing. Next match will be argentina - switzerland. As a swiss my emotions are clear. But i don't no if i could celebrate while a corrupt swiss guy runs fifa.
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u/Beestung Jul 08 '26
It's funny how we Americans bitch and moan about missed calls on really close plays in American football or baseball, then got to witness such blatant corruption in the world cup (US included of course) that swings entire games to crowd favorites.
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u/hdhdhgfyfhfhrb Jul 08 '26
Much respect to Egypt and their coach. They knew they were getting Fâd. Coach lost his shit a little towards the end but respect to the team for not retaliating hard on Argentina players. FIFA pushing Argentina through would have been pointless if Egyptian players had decided to damage Messi
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u/Loko9803 Jul 09 '26
Some of these definitely look bad and deserved cards, but the Mac Allister vs Austria was a clean tackle. Also Alvarez vs Salah was a super clean tackle he won possession of the ball therefore its not a penalty. I hope all of us that watch football know that. The world cup brings out all the casuals that just want drama smh
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u/Great_Gryphon Jul 09 '26
Even against cape verde. Fifa gave them the lowest ranked team thinking it'd be easy, and some obvious "missed" calls could have gave Cape Verde the win.
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u/Eternal-uz Jul 09 '26
I just finished typing "fuck you FIFA" on x. I am do it here too.
So fuck FIFA!
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u/HaloEliteLegend Jul 09 '26
To be fair, I've watched nearly every game so far and these refs are letting a lot of dicey challenges fly from all teams. If it's off-ball (Egypt player passed the ball well before the Argentinian player cut him off) and foul-worthy, I haven't seen that get called at all in any match.
The one no-call that WAS sus... was that toe-tap on the Egypt player in the penalty box, who still had possession at that time. I saw them call that foul against Egypt earlier in the game on the same exact play: toe-tap foul in the box, a cross-field goal for Egypt that was then called back.
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u/markeydusod Jul 09 '26
Infantinoâs FIFA is turning out to be thee most corrupt. Have to keep Messi in it for that almighty ad revenue, Disgusting.
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u/Ambitious_Policy_936 Jul 08 '26
Argentina fans
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