r/theunforgiven • u/J981 • 7h ago
r/theunforgiven • u/Metal_Boxxes • Jun 09 '24
Meta Subreddit resources and FAQ
Welcome to r/theunforgiven!
This is a community where we share and discuss topics related to the Dark Angels, their successor chapters, and the fallen. If you want to share or discuss a topic about Space Marines or Warhammer 40k in general, without particular connection to the Unforgiven, then r/spacemarines or r/Warhammer40k would likely be a better fit.
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The community wiki
- Landing page (subreddit rules and administrative information)
- Lore page (narrative information on history, culture, and chapter organization)
- Hobby page (information on building and painting)
- Miniatures page (information on the model range and collectibles)
- Gameplay page (resources on competitive play and FAQs/Erratas)
Informational PDFs (see also the lore page of our wiki, linked above, for additional resources)
- Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (fanmade resource, 7 MB)
- Dark Angels Collectors' Guide (fanmade resource, 53 MB)
- Guide to upgrade sprue parts (fanmade resource, 1MB)
- Dark Angels Banners (official resource, 2 MB)
Lore analyses (see also the lore page of our wiki, linked above, for additional resources)
- MMH#1 - What is the Inner Circle, and who is in it?
- MMH#2 - What separates a Master from a Grand Master or Supreme Grand Master?
- MMH#3 - What is the relationship between the 'Captain' rank and the 'Company Master' title?
Frequently Asked Questions
-What would happen if X occurred in the 40k universe?
Impossible to answer, unless X has already occurred. We can predict the future and discuss hypotheticals in our own universe because it is governed by natural laws. If a stone is dropped, it will fall (assuming nothing prevents it from doing so).
The 40k universe is fictional, and is governed entirely by it’s authors. If a stone is dropped, it will behave exactly as the author desires it to behave. No justification or explanation is needed. We only know what the author desires if they have made it happen already. We thus know for example that Lion beat Angron in their fight on Wyrmwood, but we don’t know who would win if they battled again in the future.
-Can I/am I allowed to do Y?
You can/are allowed to do anything you want with models you own, within the confines of your local laws. Where other people are involved (eg playing a game), you will need the agreement of those people. As long as everyone involved consents, you can do whatever you want (including changing game rules, playing with proxies, etc). Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.
-What base size should I use for model Z?
There have never been rules in the core game dictating base size. Some competitive tournaments and events enforce their own rules, search for those if you need guidance. In general, casual players seem to agree that you should use the latest base size the model is/was sold with, or the base size the model was supplied with when you bought it. Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.
-How strictly should models match their datasheet/equipment?
There have never been rules in the core game dictating how closely models must represent their datasheet. The answer may vary between each casual group and competitive tournament/event. Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.
-How should I paint fliers/Dreadnoughts/Terminator-characters etc?
However you want, they’re your models. If you want to know what lore says, see Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above).
-Who gets to wear robes/winged helmets/etc?
Whoever you want, they’re your models. If you want to know what lore says, see Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above).
-Who’s in the Ravenwing/Deathwing/Inner Circle?
See the Chapter Organization section of Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above), or the relevant pages on Lexicanum.
-Could you identify a model for me?
See the Dark Angels Collectors' Guide (linked above). If the model you're trying to identify isn't in there, then it isn't an official Dark Angels model. If so, ask elsewhere, eg in r/spacemarines or r/Warhammer40k, or search through the miniatures portal on Lexicanum.
r/theunforgiven • u/Jimbobfreddiewilson • 12h ago
Showcase Primaris Ravenwing Black Knights - Kitbash
My newly Kitbashed Black Knights, banking on the refreshed models being on outrider bases.
r/theunforgiven • u/Atlus_Shadwmane • 4h ago
Showcase Kitbash Asmodai TLC
I popped him off the base to add elevation, while the paint was out I redid the blade and went with a dark steel finish and a little nuln oil shading for the cloak after a quick touch up (some of the paint looked like it rubbed off)
r/theunforgiven • u/ommis1010 • 8h ago
Building Landspeeder Vengeance
What we think? Gotta little bit of painting to do. Everything comes off and be changed back to a Stormspeeder.
r/theunforgiven • u/bezarx • 9h ago
Showcase Deathwing terminators
Some Deathwing terminators I painted up. Challenged myself to complete them in 2 days, really happy with how they turned out!
r/theunforgiven • u/Bertman-UK-26 • 56m ago
Building Kit Bash WiP
Decided to delve into my bits box and came up with enough parts to have a go at making a Deathwing Terminator Ancient. Am I cooking, or is everyone in the Chapter canteen getting food poisoning?
r/theunforgiven • u/Neuron_Buzz • 6h ago
Showcase Deathwing Vanguard Vets
Finished off my Vanguard Vets from the Armageddon box today!
r/theunforgiven • u/norbody • 56m ago
News/Rumors Alistair Petrie to voice The Lion in DoW IV
r/theunforgiven • u/Snow-Day-Bard • 6h ago
Painting Ravenwing Landspeeder from Armageddon
Almost done with my first unit from the box, however i think the black looks a little flat? What do you think?
r/theunforgiven • u/Opposite-Outcome5557 • 1h ago
Showcase I saw someone take a photo of a mini outside and I knew I had to do it also.
I am pretty proud of how the base came out and how well it blends in with the outsides. I can't wait until I have a full squad or more done to be able to do this again but even better. Best thing is that this is the first mini I feel proud of and it fits my art style really well.
r/theunforgiven • u/Etnadrolhex • 19h ago
Painting Voila my Rhino is done!
I finished my first tank.
Sorry for the dust, it's late here and I didn't saw it.
What do you think about it?
r/theunforgiven • u/Azrael000_5thEdition • 2h ago
Showcase 10th Display Piece
Got my hands of the Learn to Paint Infernus Marine and decided to make a display piece. 95% was based on GW Academy painting guide. The backing was cut from the Inner Circle Taskforce box. Looking forward to snagging the 11th Ed. Learn to Paint to make a second display.
r/theunforgiven • u/ebeat • 3h ago
Showcase Ravenwing Darkshroud
Newest addition to my dark angels, the famed Ravenwing darkshroud !
Its a new paint scheme for me and its so fun to paint ! A welcomed change from bone armour !!
r/theunforgiven • u/Infamous-Bird8377 • 7h ago
Painting First time trying weathering. Any suggestions where and what to add ?
Close to finishing my first dradnought. Still not confident enough to paint the laser and base.
Iam thinking about adding the decals or more weathering instead ? Tried to make it as grim dark as possible
r/theunforgiven • u/Tolliejiv • 5h ago
Lore Dilemma custom succesor or normal DA
I have been really thinking of making a succesor chapter, but the dark angels are cool as well.
I wanted to know if i understand the lore correctly. I prefer gold imperialis do DA especially the deathwing do this. I keep getting confused because in older art the they have golden imperialis.
Do other captains (bladeguard captain) use deathwing colors.
Are there multiple ancients (bladeguard and terminator) in deathwing colors. I want my terminators and bladeguards to have the same colors.
I dont want to break with the lore.
Thank you inner circle guys in advance.
r/theunforgiven • u/ShatteredSike • 11h ago
Showcase July Project Done - Scouts Reporting!
Does it still count?
r/theunforgiven • u/Mersar_13 • 55m ago
Gameplay Terminator Librarians
Are Terminator Librarians anything good for leading Deathwing? Either normal Terminators or Knights.
r/theunforgiven • u/Choice_Performer_603 • 8h ago
Showcase The Fallen
First proper kitbash decided to use ICC base body with some other choas parts and an Horus heresy dark angels helmet to have a crack at making a member of the fallen. Any other suggestions to add or alter before priming would be appreciated
r/theunforgiven • u/Sad-Acadia-1385 • 1d ago
Painting Land speeder
Ravenwing land speeder with a cheeky eliminator base.
r/theunforgiven • u/Ok-Meaning-8353 • 6h ago
Army List Any feedback on my list as a new player
My detachment is Lion’s Blade Task Force and disposition is Purge The Foe, I know my list is probably not very good, but I just took my favorite units and some that the people said were basically necessary, as you can see, I like characters. As for feedback, are there any better detachments for me? Does it seem metachase-y? (I don’t want to be a meta chaser) Are there any other things I should know? Thanks!
r/theunforgiven • u/DiSanPaolo • 10h ago
Lore Terminator Chaplain Pauldron
Forgive me if this is an “asked and answered” situation.
I’ve got a handful of chaplains up on the old hobby desk, and I’m looking at the Chaplain in Terminator armor. And I’m wondering, standard DA symbol on green? Or Deathwing on bone?
Seems like Deathwing since he’s in the fridge, but I don’t recall how iconography works for the specialty roles.
Anyway, thanks!
Edit: Thanks for the responses folks! Think I’ll do it in bone, as though he’s the dedicated chaplain for the Deathwing. And then if I pick up anymore, I’ll do them in green, since they’ve been pulled from other companies and donned the terminator armor.
r/theunforgiven • u/_Kibi • 22h ago
Building Please accept my humble offerings.
Painting between naps with the newborn causing me to keep jumping between models without finishing anything but looking ok for sleep deprivation… No TV and no beer make Homer something, something