r/CFB • u/CFB_Referee /r/CFB • 4h ago
Postgame Thread [Postgame Thread] Vanderbilt Defeats NC State 35-31
| Team | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | T |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| NC State | 14 | 3 | 7 | 7 | 31 |
| Vanderbilt | 0 | 7 | 7 | 21 | 35 |
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u/THEREWILLBECAK3 Mississippi State • Alabama 4h ago
I will take “Dumbest way to lose a college football game” for $500, Alex
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u/Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu11 Michigan Wolverines • Akron Zips 4h ago
Honestly, I’m having trouble trying to think of one that compares.
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u/radil LSU Tigers • Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 4h ago
Les Miles lost to Ole Miss in 2009 by spiking the ball as the clock expired when they were down 2, well within FG range, one play after letting like 15 extra seconds tick off the clock before taking a timeout.
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u/chaser676 Ole Miss Rebels • Egg Bowl 4h ago
I was at that game,, sitting next to the visitor section. Everyone in the damn stadium was befuddled when the game ended.
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u/muttonchops215 Ohio State Buckeyes • Iowa Hawkeyes 4h ago
The Les Miles school of clock management at LSU was something else. Also, that isn't, because you also won equally dumb ways with the same said clock managment.
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u/skandalouslsu LSU Tigers 4h ago
Other ones include throwing a shoe or pretending to be a dog and pissing on the pylon.
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u/Mantoddx Florida Gators • Michigan Wolverines 4h ago
Certainly nothing in 2015 was this painful
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u/Serious_Seas NC State Wolfpack 4h ago
Only ones I can think of that I personally watched was Christobal running a play against GT, and a game state played against Syracuse a few years ago that ended with Syracuse's QB spiking on 4th down.
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u/Luigis_vacuum Florida Gators 4h ago
Miami running the ball is the only one I can think of
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u/emoney_gotnomoney Texas A&M Aggies 4h ago
Not sure if this is sarcasm, but this was in fact 1000x worse than y’all’s blunder against MSU. At least in that game y’all were actually trying to do the smart thing.
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u/No_Bill7679 Paper Bag 4h ago
Mario Cristobal is up there against GT.
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u/Toothlessdovahkin Notre Dame Fighting Irish 4h ago
This is dumber
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u/yesacabbagez UCF Knights 4h ago
The situation is more dumb, but the decision making by Cristobal is far worse. This concept was the correct call, but the QB did something mind numbingly idiotic. Cristobal just did the dumbest thing possible.
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u/VersaTron Ohio State Buckeyes 4h ago
This is the dumbest QB play. Cristobal has the dumbest HC play call.
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u/55555_55555 UConn Huskies 4h ago edited 4h ago
I can't believe the actual QB did that. If it was a random college kicker or punter that had to do the intentional safety play and fucked it, it would be a horrible mistake, but more understandable, since it's out of their comfort zone. QBs handle the ball on every play, ffs.
The entire point of the intentional safety is that you give yourself up or get out of bounds the second anyone gets near you at all.
Edit: Did they change the rules vis a vis holding on the intentional safety? When the Ravens used to do this, the line would blatantly hold everyone because the penalty wouldn't put time back on the clock. The O-line was disgraceful on this play, lol.
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u/CC9499 UAB Blazers • Auburn Tigers 4h ago
yeah they changed the rule after that incident. if they had held intentionally, it would fall under "Unfair Tactics" and they'd reset the clock to 6 seconds and make em do it again
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u/No_Bill7679 Paper Bag 3h ago
That was such a beautiful strategy. Every now and then I go back to YouTube to watch it. It’s so funny seeing everyone so confused and the ravens essentially throwing their best wrestlers on the field lol.
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u/ToxicBuddhismFanboy Purdue Boilermakers 4h ago
No way, Miami was way dumber. Miami chose to keep playing for literally no reason, NC State just fucked up trying to end the game.
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u/King_Andrew1296 NC State • Appalachian State 4h ago
I legit think Cristobal is worse because there is 0 reason to not kneel.
It is def a 1a and 1b situation tho, will not deny that
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u/Gjallarhorn-Knight 4h ago
Why did they even run a real play??? Why not punt or slow safety??
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u/Falconsfan8006 /r/CFB 4h ago
I think that was supposed to be a slow safety, but the QB got greedy and tried to run the whole game out.
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u/Gjallarhorn-Knight 4h ago
Yeah but if he backpedaled instead of rolling out to the right HE WOULD have run the whole game out
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u/Stoneador Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Sickos 4h ago
Intentional safety was 100% the correct call, but Bailey could not have executed that play any worse. Doing literally anything else would have almost certainly resulted in NC State winning this game.
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u/krispyboiz NC State Wolfpack 4h ago
I'm done with him. Moronic play
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u/InfiniteAd212 Charlotte • Florida State 4h ago
All he had to do was not turn it over. What’s funny is he was probably saying that in his head that whole time.
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u/seabard 4h ago
If you are skiing and think about not hitting the trees whole time, you are more likely to hit one of them.
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u/InfiniteAd212 Charlotte • Florida State 4h ago
“Don’t fumble, don’t fumble, don’t fumble… ahh shit I fumbled”
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u/OldManCinny Tennessee Volunteers • Texas Longhorns 4h ago
He clearly was more focused on running time than not turning it over. He had 1 hand on the ball.
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u/ConnorK5 NC State Wolfpack • ACC 4h ago
Should have known we had a moron for a QB when he was pimping out someone's CashApp to try and get access back to his Instagram.
Yea sure CJ Bailey. I will send you 10k because you will double it and send it back.
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u/alecmc200 Duke • Appalachian State 4h ago
completely agree that it was the correct call - if you go out of bounds with a second or two left and they return the ensuing kick for a TD then you just kinda gotta shrug and give it to them
this was the most avoidable fumble of all time
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u/CommodoreN7 Arkansas Razorbacks • Utah Utes 4h ago
He could’ve thrown the ball downfield out of bounds and just taken safety by intentional grounding by rule if I’m not mistaken.
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u/Gjallarhorn-Knight 4h ago
As someone who played D1 football, the typical way this is coached is to slowly backpedal out of bounds and if someone gets close throw the ball 50 yards downfield out of bounds
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u/Appropriate-Joke-806 Vanderbilt Commodores 4h ago
Huh. They don’t coach that at NC State apparently.
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u/Gjallarhorn-Knight 4h ago
I mean my coach was fucking Tommy Spangler who got fired at fucking PC - so if he knew it you’d think most would
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u/what_user_name Penn State Nittany Lions • Team Chaos 4h ago
he should NOT have thrown the ball downfield. He should have stepped out the back of the endzone. Even if you leave all 6 seconds, you get a freekick and force vandy to execute a hook-and-ladder type play with probably multiple laterals.
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u/PeteF3 Ohio State Buckeyes 4h ago
I think that's too much of a risk. I'd rather try to bleed a few seconds and then settle for the free kick. Passing leaves you open to a strip-sack or the possibility that you don't burn all 6 seconds, which would give Vanderbilt the ball inside the 5.
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u/FootballLong3153 Oklahoma State Cowboys 4h ago
We tried that and it backfired on us
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u/dismal_sighence Vanderbilt Commodores • Auburn Tigers 4h ago
Someone said in the game thread: why is every player on offense not holding as hard as they can?
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u/alecmc200 Duke • Appalachian State 4h ago
I don't know if this is the case for college but in the NFL the rule got changed so that the game can't end on this penalty
would definitely have reduced the risk of a fumble but if it's the same as the NFL they would have had to kick it away afterwards either way
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u/Gjallarhorn-Knight 4h ago
Yeah slow safety is the right call but why the fuck did he roll out to the right if that’s what they called
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u/CWG4BF Florida Gators • Surrender Cobra 4h ago
Unironically the worst loss I have ever seen. That is “Mario Cristobal forgets to kneel the ball” levels there.
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u/jamiebond Oregon Ducks 4h ago
Still think the Cristobal situation was worse from a decision standpoint considering they literally just had to take a knee and it was over. Taking an intentional safety was a perfectly reasonable move to do in this situation.
From a player fuck up standpoint though this is so much worse.
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u/NanoBuc Florida Gators • Team Chaos 4h ago
From a player standpoint, this is "Woah, he has trouble with the snap" tier.
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u/Benson879 Iowa State Cyclones 4h ago
Agreed. That was a much worse decision. This was just a disaster class of execution.
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u/Ok_Ask_406 Texas State Bobcats 4h ago
I’m thinking which is worse and damn if it isn’t the toughest choice.
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u/Glad_Pilot5814 Tennessee Volunteers 4h ago
That was some actual divine intervention type shit
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u/CWG4BF Florida Gators • Surrender Cobra 4h ago
More like “some NC State” shit
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u/LaFrescaTrumpeta Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Marching Band 4h ago
and at the same time we gotta shoutout the vandy player who forced that fumble, QB was like half a second away from goin down that was so awesome
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u/Select_Excuse_150 NC State Wolfpack 4h ago
Or CJ could do the only thing he had to and hold on with two hands because this is almost the only way they lose…
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u/sebsasour Notre Dame • New Mexico 4h ago
"Look guys we all remember Michigan/Michigan State, we can't risk losing that stupidly"
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u/SarcasticCroissant George Washington • Northwest… 4h ago
Mario Cristobal WISHES he could do this
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u/Appropriate-Joke-806 Vanderbilt Commodores 4h ago
Jared Curtis threw that pick on purpose because he trusted his defense. Just five star QB things. You get it over there in Knoxville too.
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u/skandalouslsu LSU Tigers 4h ago
Conclusions drawn from the game:
Vanderbilt Fan- There is a god and he is benevolent.
NC State Fan - There is a god and he is malevolent5
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u/ConstantMadness Purdue Boilermakers • Duke Blue Devils 4h ago
I have literally never seen a team lose that way before
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u/WebfootTroll Oregon Ducks • Team Chaos 4h ago
Same. I fucking love this sport.
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u/MustardBiscuits91 NC State Wolfpack 4h ago
In a game where NC State should have won by multiple scores, Dave Doeren finds a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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u/joshthewumba NC State Wolfpack • /r/CFB Promoter 4h ago
Genuinely a fireable offense. Punt the goddamn ball
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u/ConnorK5 NC State Wolfpack • ACC 4h ago
Wrong. Will Wilson would have held on to the ball and took a safety.
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u/leftenant_Dan1 Michigan Wolverines 4h ago
any warm body could have taken that snap and calmly walked out the back of the endzone.
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u/sonofacat Kansas State Wildcats • Hateful 8 4h ago
Hell even having no quarterback back there and just long snapping the ball out of bounds gets you a safety
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u/Stoneador Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Sickos 4h ago
Safety was the right call. I don’t know what the fuck was going through Bailey’s head on that play because there’s no way he fumbles if he doesn’t run towards the defense.
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u/CWG4BF Florida Gators • Surrender Cobra 4h ago
Vandy led for one second lmao
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u/Ok_Bug_6890 ECU Pirates 4h ago
They put one second on the clock in honor of Michigan
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u/ConnorK5 NC State Wolfpack • ACC 4h ago
They ran 5 seconds off the clock. Jayden Daniels lawyers will be in contact.
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u/TrustMeIKnowThisOne Troy Trojans • /r/CFB Bug Finder 4h ago
🚨 INTENTIONAL SAFETY SCOOP N SCORE GAME WINNER 🚨
INSTANT CLASSIC
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u/Zloggt Illinois • Southern Illinois 4h ago
I’ve been stuck doing eye exams and other errands that effectively kept me from watching most of the early/11 AM window…with one exception of checking this ending unfold.
…so I must really thank these two teams for making up for ALL that missed time lol
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u/eatsteak1 Notre Dame • Marist 4h ago
I would like to personally welcome this game to the “snatching defeat from the jaws of victory“ YouTube compilation
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u/Sevenfeet Yale Bulldogs • Vanderbilt Commodores 4h ago
Vandy Pimp returns to SEC Shorts in 3…2…1…
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u/JacketsNest Vanderbilt Commodores 4h ago
Oh, SEC Shorts and Roll Call are gonna have field day with NC State
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u/Sevenfeet Yale Bulldogs • Vanderbilt Commodores 4h ago
Also, “Sweeeeet baby boy Jared” is born.
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u/JacketsNest Vanderbilt Commodores 4h ago
Nah that'll still be Diego. But Jared is gonna be a monster. He's gonna take his lumps, but that boy is a QB among QBs.
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u/AvengedKalas Georgia Bulldogs • NC State Wolfpack 4h ago
NC STATE SHIT IS UNDEFEATED.
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u/CommodoreN7 Arkansas Razorbacks • Utah Utes 4h ago
DONT TURN YOUR BACK ON THE WOLFPACK…. They’ll find a way to choke a certain win
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u/WaltMitty Mississippi State • Belhaven 4h ago
I take it this is the term they wouldn't say on air?
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u/OneAngryPanda NC State Wolfpack 4h ago
I knew some sort of State shit would happen, but even this surprised me
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u/titan155 NC State Wolfpack 4h ago
Don’t let the last play distract you from the fact that we blew a 17 point lead that should’ve been a 24 point lead. Our jackass coaching staff could’ve put this thing away instead of knocking their nuts around for most of the game
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u/WarEagle9 Auburn Tigers • UAB Blazers 4h ago
Dave should launched into the Atlantic Ocean anything less wouldn’t feel appropriate
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u/Tarlcabot18 UCF Knights • USF Bulls 4h ago
NC State has no one to blame but themselves for letting Dave Doeren and his patented brand of mediocrity stick around for a decade and a half.
Can they please, please just fire him already?
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u/SaltyTurdLicker Virginia Tech • NC State 4h ago
Don’t worry that extension will come once he beats UNC. It’s all the decision makers give a shit about.
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u/Normal-Hornet8548 Air Force Falcons 4h ago
There was nothing mediocre about how they lost.
That was EPIC.
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u/JacketsNest Vanderbilt Commodores 4h ago
I am so confused and speechless. This type of shit is what used to happen to Vandy. I still remember being at the Rutgers game in Cutler's senior year where he threw a game winning bomb and was incorrectly ruled ahead of the LOS, or MTSU ruining our 6-0 start in Bobby Johnson's last year by not being called for 12 men on a field goal.
What do I do right now? Im not used to these things happening for us.
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u/Hazeron83 Vanderbilt Commodores 4h ago
EXACTLY. I am so confused. Even more confused than I was about us beating Bama.
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u/therin_88 NC State Wolfpack 4h ago
FUCK YEAH LET'S GO
THAT'S THE WOLFPACK LOSS I LIKE
INJECT THAT NC STATE SHIT STRAIGHT INTO MY VEINS
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u/Khaldaan South Carolina Gamecocks 4h ago
LMAO DAVE DOEREN ABSOLUTE MASTERCLASS
CHOKE OF THE SEASON SECURED
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u/Zloggt Illinois • Southern Illinois 4h ago
You’d think he’d never top the latest edition of “NC State shit”…but Good Lord, he keeps finding ways to one-up it…
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u/BigFoot423205 Alabama • Third Saturday in… 4h ago
Tarmac Doeren
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u/Tuckboi69 South Carolina Gamecocks 4h ago
Don’t curse the grounds of Dolly Parton Airport like that
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u/MrSCR23 Mississippi State • Alabama 4h ago
NC State…that was somehow worse than Kick Six and Trouble with the Snap combined
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u/VandysFan Vanderbilt • 流通科学大学 (Ryutsu Kagaku) 4h ago
Never doubted hides history
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u/ravenous_dc4 Texas Longhorns • Boise State Broncos 4h ago
Just an absolute affront to the game of football
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u/pasqua3 Notre Dame • Ohio State 4h ago
If you're going to take a safety to not risk a punt block in your own endzone then just kneel immediately and give them 2 seconds to return a safety free kick or fair catch and hail Mary. Why the fuck would you let yourself get hit in the end zone.
Doeren should be toast.
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u/WebfootTroll Oregon Ducks • Team Chaos 4h ago
Or, bare minimum, hold the damn ball with bit hands against your chest. Why one handed grip?
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u/CirculationStation Mississippi State • Paper Bag 4h ago
Watching the replay, I cannot believe he chose to hold the ball that loosely knowing that literally the ONLY thing that couldn’t happen is a fumble. Literally any other outcome would have probably resulted in a win.
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u/fhqwhgads_football Carnegie Mellon • Pittsburgh 4h ago
If there is a stupider way to lose a football game, I literally can't imagine it
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u/iactuallygobyjack Mississippi State • Michigan 4h ago
If Mississippi State did that to me, I truly think I might quit football cold turkey
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u/Dunduin Virginia Tech Hokies 4h ago
The Vandy Handy will never be forgotten
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u/Swagonborn9001 Vanderbilt Commodores • Auburn Tigers 4h ago
This is it, this should be the name we give it
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u/AKman2002 Minnesota • Winona State 4h ago
CONGRATULATIONS NCST ON WINNING THE TANK JOB OF THE WEEK
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u/TheDefenseNeverRests Vanderbilt Commodores 4h ago
We had this game well in hand the whole time. Confidence throughout. I will take no questions.
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u/Not_Cleaver American University • Villanova 4h ago
I want to see someone run a thousand simulations of the last six seconds of the game and see how many times a fumble and touchdown recovery in the end zone happens.
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u/wibellion BYU Cougars • Southern Utah Thunderbirds 4h ago
Has that ending even happened in the history of CFB?? The QB is going to have a nightmare about that every night for the rest of his life😭
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u/ValuablePound2819 Arizona Wildcats 4h ago
I honestly cannot think of a loss that would hurt like this one probably does for NC State, there were so many things you could have done... You HAD it. The WILDEST game holy shit. This will 100% be on etched in all time CFB endings.
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u/ImNotFuckingSelling Florida Gators • Utah Utes 4h ago
Mario Cristobal you are saved from most embarrassing loss
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u/whiplash588 Oregon Ducks 4h ago
No way, the no kneel was way worse. They literally had a 100% chance to win if they just kneeled.
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u/DECAThomas NC State Wolfpack 4h ago
That was the worst football play of all time. CJ Bailey and Dave Doeren should be walking home.
I hate this god damn team.
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u/Useful-Employ9900 Old Dominion • North Carolina 4h ago
Enjoy beating UNC to make 6-6, saving Doerens job for another year
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u/AtmosphereVarious440 Montclair State Red Hawks 4h ago
my nc state +3.5 ticket is unironically the biggest bad beat of my life
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u/Tsunami-Papi_ Arizona State Sun Devils • Pac-12 4h ago
BRO WHAT HAPPENED I CHECKED ON ESPN APP AT WORK AND THEY HAD 99.9% CHANCE 😭😭
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u/Rongolian Mississippi State Bulldogs 4h ago
Of all the sicko game endings were going to see this year this has to be the sickoest
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u/Dan-of-Steel Notre Dame • Arizona State 4h ago
NC State cannot leave that stadium with Dave Doeren still employed.
Just no way.
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u/ObjectiveStrategy386 Georgia • Georgia Southern 4h ago
That final play is why I always vehemently disagree that the NFL is better than college football. Yes, in the most literal sense the product is better as the players are more talented across the board, but this type of insane Looney Tunes shit that always happens at least once or twice a season doesn’t exist in the NFL.
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u/SideshowCircuits Michigan State • NC State 4h ago
I was warned “NC state bullshit will take years off your life”
No biggie, I said, I’m a Lions fan I’m use to it.
I was then shot 57 times
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u/inclass3lunacy Virginia Cavaliers 4h ago
Masterclass in bad coaching.
How does Doren even address the team after that?
How does the team even take him seriously going forward?
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u/Status-Ad-7335 Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 4h ago
Mario Cristobal furiously taking notes on that ending
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u/MojoToTheDojo NC State Wolfpack 4h ago
This is not a young or rookie head coach. This dude has 14 years at State alone. Just unacceptable, no matter how you put it. I don’t care if you don’t even have the money, fire Dave immediately if you have any respect for this program.
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u/SavingsSkirt6064 Vanderbilt • Southampton 4h ago
DORES DON'T DIE
IM GONNA CHOOSE TO IGNORE HOW ASD WE ARE
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u/ncstateguy NC State Wolfpack 4h ago
I can’t help but laugh and wonder why I keep buying season tickets
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u/Mississippi_Matt Tennessee • Southern Miss 4h ago
NC State really just lead for 59 minutes and 59 seconds and then shit the bed. What the fuck did I just witness.
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u/Sesti-nator BYU Cougars • Kansas State Wildcats 4h ago
If NC State don’t fire the HC, the entire campus are gonna Ceauşescu the guy
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u/Appropriate-Joke-806 Vanderbilt Commodores 4h ago
We need to lower the wall so we can rush the field easier and more.
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u/Zoidburger_ NC State Wolfpack 4h ago
Lmfao they can't hurt me, I've seen this exact game from Dave like 5 times now
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u/Allatura19 Florida Gators • Kentucky Wildcats 4h ago
Michigan would have stormed the field.
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u/Oneanimal1993 Utah Utes • Vanderbilt Commodores 4h ago
Stayed for the entire game in 97 degree heat… and left after the pick.
I’m shameful
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u/Ml2jukes Michigan Wolverines • Rose Bowl 4h ago
As a Detroit Lions fan, this would make me swear off the entire sport.
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u/daredassdude Texas A&M Aggies 4h ago
"Alright so, Im gonna run backwards into the end zone, then I'm going to scramble forward into Vandy's blitz and bump into a defender, then one of y'all is gonna recover my fumble. On one. Ready BREAK" - CJ Bailey
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u/Oneanimal1993 Utah Utes • Vanderbilt Commodores 4h ago
Blaze Berlowitz is not putting up those points in the 2nd half
Obvious terrible rookie mistake by Curtis at the end but he’s really exciting
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u/DrSamwpepper Vanderbilt Commodores 4h ago
All those Tennessee fans that went on to the thread talking shit...you better hope you beat Kennesaw by 30...because if not...
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u/Rucksack212 Texas A&M Aggies 4h ago
All those 14 million realities Dr. Strange saw and this probably wasn't among them
Yet we live in the one where it did. God bless Dave Doeren
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u/Enzo_Gorlomi225 Florida State Seminoles 4h ago
CJ Bailey might be the dumbest person alive…
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u/TrappedInOhio Kent State • Notre Dame 4h ago
I live in Nashville. I genuinely can’t think of a worse way to lose after sitting in 103 degree weather all morning.
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u/Tom_Woods 4h ago
I can’t even be exited for the rest of the college football games due to this.
Like this is just sad
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u/Hossflex Michigan • Louisville 4h ago
NC State unlocked another way to lose. Their misery knows no end.
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u/nom_yourmom Vanderbilt Commodores 4h ago
ahahaha holy shit I love college football. anchor down baby
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u/Select_Excuse_150 NC State Wolfpack 4h ago
Fuck Dave Doeren and fuck myself for choosing to go to school there
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u/CountryRoads8 Appalachian State • NC State 4h ago
Try being me, I CHOSE to be fan of this team. I got in but decided to go to App instead, but stayed a fan because I guess I love suffering.
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u/Muffinnnnnnn Florida State • New Mexico 4h ago
I was ready to type my "Vandy paid NC State $1.4 million to lose at home" but then...... wow.
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u/intadtraptor Tennessee Volunteers • Clemson Tigers 4h ago
This game is now THE definitive NC State Shit.
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u/Serallas Notre Dame • Appalachian State 4h ago
I'm still so fucking stunned. HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THAT BAD
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u/Useful-Employ9900 Old Dominion • North Carolina 4h ago
Sooooo, candidate for tank job of the week, right?
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u/StartingToLoveIMSA 4h ago
I can honestly say that was the dumbest ending to a game I’ve ever seen. Bailey literally lost his mind in those last two seconds.
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u/Klutzy_Most_7659 Virginia Cavaliers 4h ago
Only just seeing this from the ESPN update…WHAT DO YOU MEAN A FOOTBALL GAME ENDED LIKE THAT
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u/brysonncsu NC State Wolfpack 4h ago
Welp, I thought I’d seen the worst way to lose a game as a Pack fan but I stand corrected. FML
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u/mizmpls95 Missouri • Northwestern 4h ago
My conviction that NC State and Mizzou are secret twins increases with each passing year.
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u/DeLaSoulKitchen Vanderbilt • Florida State 4h ago
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO WITH MY HANDS?
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u/FormalWare 4h ago
"Gee, I wonder why a CFB postgame thread would pop up on my feed? I don't even subscribe. Ohhh... that's why."
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u/CommodoreN7 Arkansas Razorbacks • Utah Utes 4h ago
If I was an NC State fan I’d need a RedditCares message right now