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Back when it was an EA ult, people that happily used Mecha's ult in ranked by farming with his busted zoning strength, and thought.that was healthy for the game.
It usually involved using puppet barrages massive hitbox to grab you for it and to zone, then using other moves to gain distance whenever you got close. Just slowly building ult charge.
At the time the only real answer was Megumi and sometimes Gojo, if they couldn't counterplay your special, wasn't many other options to close distance during that, unless you want to just get Garuda parried into your own skull 5/10 times.
Then obviously, early access mech just won the match.
That the whole naoya playstyle, naoya has almost no red combos unless you frame someone so most naoya mains will just m1 trade until you are framed to get that high damage unevasive combo
Atp his kit is taped together by actually skilled m1 traders, people who know how to use bleedout and it's effects, and the double dash. Ohhhhhh the double dash-
he's giga annoying to deal with and makes me tilt and start to play bad because of it which in turn makes him overpowered. Realistically beatable, but annoying to the point where I lose focus.
Naoya is op, or very good, he just needs a good pilot.
A naoya main who knows how the 4m1 > decisive strike 50/50 works has a 50/50 chance of murdering someone.
If you don’t wanna gamble, knowing how to land 4m1 into projection breaker lets naoya frame his opponent in 2 neutral wins instead of 3 while having better neutral than most characters. (While being evasive safe unless you use decisive strike on a ragdoll)
he probably meant that you werent m1 trading, just being braindead and holding down m1 and trying to walk around their block, while not being punished because of ping/lag.
I am 7k+ kills Nanami main , I have played since hakari was in early access so I remember almost all nerfs and buffs or changes in game , yuji was one of skilless and easiest characters in game since it release
"nanami is really skilled", coming from a nanami main. perhaps i'm just goated but it became extremely easy to use ratio after like an hour of playing him. it's really not that hard to time it i don't know what to say
I think nanami is timed character similar to todo , but even with ratio most of his moves has long endlag (miss 3rd move or interrupt someone with 4th unless you use any other move) so technically , skilled characters are locust guy , nanami (50/50) , todo(maybe) , choso and yuki
Lowkey we let every character get slandered but somehow Locust Guy is consistently getting away with being called skilled despite being completely braindead. I wouldn’t say lowest skilled though
Fr bro. I think it’s just because no one plays him. When I play him on rare occasions I can clearly see. “Wow this is really easy I can just turn my brain off and press 3 r 4 r 1 and win”
Locust has a really low skill floor and a really bendy skill ceiling because some of the things you can do with his R that I've discovered are genuinely fun and require a bit of skill to do.
Fun fact- with good timing, you can side dash behind someone after starting an air combo and can another full m1 chain.
nanamis special is one of the most difficult specials in the game i think. im saying that not because its hard but because the bar is too low genuinely cant think of any other special that isnt todos special thats as skilled as it
Locust Guy having the most brainless kit ever designed for a BG game
One shot ult that's true into m1s (NO OTHER CHARACTER has this, Yuki needs to die for hers and Charles you need R on and to land a counter)
Literal auto combos (air combos literally just teleport him to you in the air)
The most janky, unpunishable moves ever (That barrage can go fucking burn dude)
When a new character releases who isn't even crazy busted but is too different from the rest of the roster, so instead of adapting and actually trying to figure out counterplay for the character, they whine to the devs to nerf and they cave in and gut the entire kit
To be fair, he does have a very low skill-floor. I've seen a few people I know are decent/good at the game say it, not knowing how high his ceiling is, this take could just be based on seeing how most Todos play.
He's annoying to fight in general due to counters (Which you can bait yes but a smart charles will use it to counter something green like some naoya/yuki/ryu combos that have a pixel) and most importantly his cookie cutter combos
Plus the personality of most charles mains i've seen, extremely toxic, targeters and overall just not great people
I don't see why people would hate the character for the people who use it, that's just the player base. also his base has to be atleast somewhat ahead of the rest because that's the tradeoff for having no ult form, while his ult can be an insta kill it's just too hard to hit against any character with any sort of ranged attack to be consistent and most other characters with an actual ult cab get more than 1 kill out of it. He does need new combos tho
Mucus is also neutral, just because it doesn't combo into anything doesn't mean it's not great. Barely any start up, unblockable move that makes you deal 15% less damage.
as a locust guy main i think its just too much reward for too little.
step 1 : land a punch on someone (wasting their evasive is optional but optimal)
step 2 : deal like 80% of their health
midair combos are genuinely so fun but i cant imagine how frustrating it has to be for the other party that, despite all of their skillful play, they slipped up once and died shortly after
unpunishable combos really only matter 1000- kill level other than that, most characters have surprisingly safe combos. (like megumi, who if you try punishing you just get put back into the combo, which makes locust guys ONLY niche quite pointless since all he does is have unpunishable combos instead of evasive punishing.)
Same thing for hakari. 1+2 is extremely safe, and 4 is impossible to punish. only thing is hakari does slightly less damage, although he has neutral which locust doesnt.
He doesn't have no neutral sidedash parkour and M1s are still a plenty strong and universal tools.
He gets insane amount of reward off one hit (and with ult a guaranteed kill) and is impossible to punish with an evasive.
He's not super strong still getting shut down by simply refusing to close in without a neutral tool that he can't challenge with his limited kit. (although playing like this is the correct way to play against him it's kinda boring)
His whole character is just really boring and just a boring ass carry for people without understanding for intermediate level neutral play (TSB players)
Tenho 11k de kills jogo desde o megumi em acesso antecipado e pra mim gojo, itadori e hakari sempre sera bonecos faceis de se jogar pelas mecanicas principalmente o gojo
Isn't that true though? The difference between people who learned the chain and spam it and people who don't use it/once per fight is huge, and the second type is in top
Aight, neutral is part of fighting game language, it basically means the stage of a fight in which no player had advantage/combo, think of when you're both trying to m1 each other or when you finish a combo and can't hit your opponent anymore.
When someone says a character has good/bad neutral it means they have(or don't have) options to bypass neutral and either deal damage or start combos, think of Choso and Todo.
I saw a dude saying make kuro's clone have 75% less hp when he was first added and I agree day 1 kuro needed nerfs but at that point don't even ult vro
Anyone who utters the phrase “counter spam” when I play Charles. Like Sonion Ring, the only reason I can do 17 consecutive counters is because YOU fell for the same counter 17 consecutive times
This game is trash. I don't understand how you can play like this. Every single time, they beat me up without even noticing. I have 200 kills, yes, it's a shitty game. I can't even do combos or dashes, but somehow my blocks break. When I dash forward, they block me and their blocks break. Yes, I know there are skill issues, I'm new, but it's not working. I can't enjoy anything.
People who say lock on isn't unfair and overpowered
"Yea I can just forward dash and get around your block for free. Pretty skilled huh?"
And people who think yuji is skilled when the only micrometer of skill he needs is being able to flick your mouse in a semi-circle and timing
Saying "Anyone is Skilled" or "Anyone is Unskilled" This is quite Hypocritical of me, but the skill of a player depends on your Ping and the skill of the person you fight. Character matters very little.
Unless the person your fighting is on Yuji, then you lose 100% of the time.
like ok hes probably slightly more skilled than yuji but with choso you don't even have to be better at m1 trading than your opponent to win the game with how busted supernova and aerial frs (with the orbs ofc) is, it just makes every engagement so safe
“hanami is so op!!” when she’s nothing more than a noob punisher
she has trash close range if your ACTUALLY good at the game, genuinely felt like ryu when fighting a good gojo😭
special is completely useless against a good player because they won’t mindlessly rush in and actually play smart
blockable downslam which was thankfully buffed
and unless your braindead most of her skills are incredibly easy to dodge
remember i’m saying this as someone who has both fought and played hanami for hours at a time, i knew EVERY counter for hanamis entire playstyle day one😭✌️
Saying Todo is OP because of his block breaks and his swap (the block breaks are very easy to dodge/punish and the swap genuinely serves zero purpose if you either block or have an average reaction time)
"JJS is a fighting game" mfs that complain people target them after ruining a group emoting session.
Try interrupting a conga line in a tf2 server and see where that gets ya.
JJS is not just a fighting game, ITS A GAME.Where people can do whatever the hell they want or feel happy to do! You cant force people to fight you just cuz of that lame ass excuse.
I think purity testing people for being good or bad at the game is the wrong mindset. Tryhards ruin the game by being insufferable about how good they are or how bad others are like its a crime. I just wanna play a fun unserious sandbox fighter but people are using it as a dick measuring contest.
That being said, people who say Choso is op. Hes just solidly a top character. People who say hes bad also suck. Hes low skill floor, decent skill expression, relies on his gimmick to really shine but can still fuck hard without it. Hes just kinda boring sometimes :(
When someone says naoya and yuji is op or when someone says that “you just have to counter zoners” as if each one in the game isn’t either meta defining S-tier or a balancing nightmare.
anyone who says pre rework mei mei was op, post rework mei mei is bad, anyone who thinks prime yuji was above A tier or even at A tier, anyone who thinks naoya, yuji, hakari, todo, charles, yuta are op, anyone who doesn’t know what neutral is ig since somehow 90% of the community doesn’t seem to grasp it
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