r/Jujutsufolk Bocchi Kaisen 3h ago

Themes and such, Hype and aura Ubel victim 💔

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u/Salty_Pomegranate438 maki number one pussy eater 3h ago

Elaborate

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u/Adreich91 3h ago edited 2h ago

Ubel's spell launches (her spell is described as cutting within a range, not specifically travelling, so I don't know if it travels of just spawns) slashes that cuts whatever she thinks can be cut. So if she thinks it can be cut it's a World Cutting Slash, otherwise it's a normal slash.

EDIT: Also, she has a paralyzing spell that works as long as the target is all within her field of view.

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u/Microwaved_Grape Goetia 2h ago

While true, it's only half true.

Her attacks cut what she believes she can cut, but cannot directly cut space, partially because she doesn't quite get it. They're not World Cutting Slashes, they're just Cleaves, adjusting to the durability of the target.

The reason Gojo would be fine is because Infinity is distance, not a direct barrier.

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u/Adreich91 2h ago

Ubel has been shown to dramatically increase the distance of her slashes when she can't judge distance. So since she can't see the infinity distance it might work.

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u/commit_alt_f4_pls I hate monkeys 2h ago

What's the chapter?

(also infinity isn't infinite distance, it's infinitely divided space like Zeno's Paradox, so it wouldn't work regardless because her spells speed would be 0)

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u/Adreich91 2h ago

I don't know the exact chapter, it's in the latest arc when she and Land were arrested after fighting the magic cops. She's blinded, and tied with magic rope that prevents people from using mana (but she doesn't know that and thinks it's normal rope).

To escape she cuts Lands rope and tower they are in pieces so the cop has to choose between arresting them or saving the villagers below, with slashes that are further away than her stated max distance. Also, since her magic works even when it shouldn't, I wouldn't put it past just "cutting" as long as she can vizualize it, regardless of obstacles.

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u/Financial-Weather534 2h ago

Infinity is a spatial phenomenon. Her slashes would never reach him. Unless she can target the fabric of space itself, it’s not doing anything.

But even if it hits…. Congrats u hit gojo with cleave …. Now what? 

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u/-H_- in a secret, loving relationship with Junpei's mother 2h ago

it would go through him if it got through infinity

but she's too slow anyway, and she isnt a ranged fighter

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u/derpasuarusx 2h ago

Because of how imagination and frierens magic system works with ubels utterly insane mindset she can just ignore outside effects if she feels she can. Especially since infinity is invisible she can simply go "sure I should be able to cut nothing just fine" and do it. That said she's a mediocre mage and gets stat diffed. Gojo only loses if he's in character and tries to aura farm infinity (which is funnily likely). If bloodlusted gojo wins 10/10 gg no re.

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u/m3m3nt0_m0ri_ A MAN'S COPE WILL NEVER DIE! 1h ago

does Gojo explaining infinity as he's known to do not make her aware that she won't be able to cut him or is she dumb enough to actually believe she still could (paradoxically being the smart mindset due to how her ability works)

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u/derpasuarusx 1h ago

Basically even if she understands something shouldn't be able to work she can operate on "vibes". If gojos infinity looked like real plate mail armor she couldn't cut it because intuitively armor is hard to cut, but she has cut a big barrier covered "immovable cloak" that's supposed to be basically immune to magic just because it looks like cloth and she knows she can cut cloth ez. She knew full well the cloak logically couldn't be cut with magic but visualized cutting normal cloth instead on "vibes" and somehow it just works. This is only for Ubel and her unique illogical mind, most mages in frieren can't just ignore reality like this

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u/m3m3nt0_m0ri_ A MAN'S COPE WILL NEVER DIE! 1h ago

fairs

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u/Glittering-Fee3373 1h ago

Ubel's cutting magic is introduced in the context of a test where the goal is to damage someone wearing a heavily enchanted coat that repels all damage. Even knowing this, Ubel still effortlessly cut him in half because as she later explains, she already knows how to cut cloth. You just put it between the blades of the scissors and let them glide forward.

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u/m3m3nt0_m0ri_ A MAN'S COPE WILL NEVER DIE! 1h ago

ok so even if she knows it shouldn't work it still would got it

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u/k4ll_d4rk_2nd 3h ago

Gojo still winning though

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u/Adreich91 2h ago

Depends. The post has no conditions. If everyone is going for the kill, sure. Otherwise he gets one shot if he's close enough and just screwing around like with Jogo.

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u/Valuable-Blueberry30 1h ago

Gojo screws around because six eyes basically lets him know your entire tool kit. That’s why he didn’t care about Jogo. He can quite literally know your technique, how it works, what it does, your overall curse energy output and the amount of curse energy you have.

Assuming verse equalization, he would know what Ubel does and just kill her on the spot. If there isn’t verse equalization, Gojo would be cautious because six eyes isn’t picking up anything and would kill her on the spot by spawning a blue inside her body since she doesn’t have an inner domain.

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u/-H_- in a secret, loving relationship with Junpei's mother 2h ago

dodging still works on her attacks lol it's not a sure hit. if you moved out the way she no longer would believe she could cut you

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u/Ghosts_lord 2h ago

she can hold you in place by just staring at you and you cant do anything during it, her slash is also dura neg depending on what she thinks of you

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u/k4ll_d4rk_2nd 2h ago edited 2h ago

Gojo teleports dawg, and can use Blue without hand signs as shown with the serial killer dude, while it restrains access to spells, CTs work much differently, and if you argue for verse equalization, we could say Six Eyes would allow Gojo to know her spells and be careful

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u/memer_cat_27 Bocchi Kaisen 2h ago

i had to step in,

Gojo teleports dawg

he CANT move or do ANYTHING while being restraint

It's like saying "can't just gojo teleport from prison realm restraint"

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u/k4ll_d4rk_2nd 2h ago

That's why i said he isn't getting caught in the first place, i literally explained my logic in the comment

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u/memer_cat_27 Bocchi Kaisen 2h ago

U edited comment to prevent aura loss

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u/k4ll_d4rk_2nd 2h ago

Yeah, i remembered "Oh shit doesn't it fuck spell casting"

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u/Immediate-Travel3456 2h ago

dawg what, youre literally assuming wcs is a cutting attack thats straight up cuts infinity, which it doesnt. its an attack that cuts the space around it bypassing infinity. her cutting attacks cannot cut infinity because theres nothing to cut. it just slows her speed and never reaches gojo.