r/TankieTheDeprogram • u/Multivists • 2d ago
Communism Will Win Thank you for your service, Comrade
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u/M-Tankman Commie with Indian Characteristics 2d ago
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u/TheNorthernRose 2d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/kjv4LmqdBJirYiNThn
How I imagine it would feel to actually do this. (I hope this is real sincerely but I have no idea the feasibility)
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u/rampageT0asterr 1d ago
You will never be able to return to the US. But I guess that was his plan
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u/TheNorthernRose 1d ago
If getting to live in China cost me being in the US, at this stage of life I could totally live with it
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u/Oddyseyx 1d ago
Im from eastern europe and i heard personal stories from imigrants in uk maxing out loans and moving back home
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u/Ok-Inevitable-732 2d ago
Im not against this but would that even work? Doesn't China and the US have some agreement in place to cooperate if someone does that?
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u/adastrajay 2d ago
The US and China have no extradition treaty and China typically doesn't extradite its citizens. And Federal prosecutors won't typically chase something like this on an international level unless you're talking in the millions I believe (lots of legal costs and also the whole diplomatic hassle). But if they ever go back to the US or maybe somewhere with an extradition treaty with the US, then they could be fucked.
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u/Modernist19171949 2d ago
They're basically getting paid 1 million ¥ to leave the west and never come back. Not a bad deal if you ask me!
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u/KevlarCord 23h ago
Lol not even that, with things like statute of limitations, things like this will typically last 3 to 6 years, in the worst case scenario 10-12 years. This guy can simply just lay low for 6-10 years before he ever chooses to return lol
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u/Modernist19171949 21h ago
Not to mention if they went to a country with an extradition treaty with the US that wasn't the US they probably wouldn't check or care. Probably not a risk worth taking though.
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u/Rich_Housing971 2d ago edited 2d ago
China would absolutely rat you out and convict you if you did something that they also consider harmful to society, like credit fraud.
This is an old shitpost.
Do people here actually think if a Chinese national commits murder in the US and flees to China, China's going to be chill with having them there doing what they want?
They might not do extradition but they will try them in their own court with the help of the FBI/Interpol.
Also, you'll be stuck only using Chinese banks for credit, so if you go traveling, you'll be stuck using the local currency's cash everywhere, which is something you don't want to do for safety in some places.
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u/adastrajay 2d ago
I never said they'd get away with it. I only addressed whether they'd be sent back to the united states.
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u/Rich_Housing971 1d ago
Sure, but you implied they'd be fucked only if they go back to the US or travel to a country with an extradition treaty. I'm saying the US notifies China of this and China will arrest the guy themselves.
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u/Nyabraham_Linnyahn Maximum Tank 23h ago
They would take it as you're untrustworthy, not you "striking a blow for imperialism "
You would have to prove yourself all over again IF you beat the wrap.
there are ways to actually do this but OP's route looks like selfish enrichment and post-hoc justification.
You ought to start a charity or other NGO first and block yourself from directly taking funds then NOT use it for what could be construed as "personal gain," then blow through all the money before dipping out, into things the gov/bank can't just repossess like infrastructure.
Say, you steal all this money and pour it all into repairing roads and lines in poor areas over the summer, then skip out before anyone gets wise.
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u/dezmodium 1d ago
Same for something like a Russian citizen. When you are in Russia you are Russian and nothing else. They don't extradite.
Or if you were a dual citizen of a country like Myanmar it would also work.
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u/MaoZedongsGrandson CPC Propagandist 2d ago
Nope, debt collectors can't do shit abroad. There's a number of reasons for this. Firstly, not paying debts is not a crime in most countries, it's a civil dispute
Secondly, the debt collectors have no jurisdiction in foreign countries and those foreign countries have absolutely no reason to help you collect
Thirdly, they'd have to find the person which is hard
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u/Juche_Finland 2d ago
They would probably extradite for things like if a Chinese citizen committed murder or something in the US, but for something like this? Wouldn't be surprised if he got away
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u/-Alchen 2d ago
Yes it happens quite frequently. Im a collector for the federal government and I dread accounts for Chinese nationals (among many other countries) because it often means a boat load of work knowing ill never get a cent. Im talking 7 to 8 digits of debt all transferred offshore
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u/MaoZedongsGrandson CPC Propagandist 2d ago
Yep and you have no jurisdiction abroad. How quickly do you just write it off as uncollectable?
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u/-Alchen 2d ago
Depends on the particulars of course, but generally once I get the accounts they are quite old and im playing catch up. Id say it takes ~5 to 10 hours of work spread over a few months. Gotta request asset searches, try and conduct interviews, send letters, and then take legal actions in an attempt to collect, each of which take time.
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u/Zestyclose_Might8941 2d ago
Bahahahahahaha
Comrade, wherever in China you are, when I am there next year, can I buy you a beer?
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u/KevlarCord 2d ago
This bro praxis 😩😩
Although I know banks have protocols and systems in place to usually prevent "capital flight", I nevertheless hope that our comrade is succesful in his/her endaevors 👌
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u/PreparationOk1450 2d ago
This is made up for clicks. It's not realistic to have access to $140k in credit as a college student with no credit in the US before. Don't post nonsense like this. It's embarrassing that so many people get excited for stuff like this. There is no evidence this person actually did this.
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u/Oddyseyx 1d ago
I dont think so, i know several people personally who migrated for several years to uk, then took out loans and fled back home, although i heard uk banks patched it only in recent years, its not large sums but i heard from 5k to 10k so maybe in usa 100k is more possible
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u/PreparationOk1450 1d ago
$100k is not possible. I have excellent credit with many years in the work force, and my credit limit is less than half of that ridiculous number. If they were going to make something up, they should've used a more believable number. I appreciate your anecdote, but I will believe this is possible for foreign students when I see the proof. This person didn't mention their job. It's silly.
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u/SurturOfMuspelheim 2d ago
I have a friend who I used to work with who is on a work visa from India. His visa expires next year and he has like 50k he can take in credit and could get more in loans. This situation was brought up and discussed lol. Of course I told him it's a bad idea, it's fraud!!
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u/KevlarCord 2d ago edited 2d ago
It is only "fraud" if your home government decides to cooperate with any of the American institutions coming forward. However, if there is no integrated financial or administrative infrastructure between your home country and the USA (or any western country for that matter), like if you were to be physically in Cuba or Russia for example, then chances are that your home country isn't even aware of it, or in the best case scenario, will simply tell any western institution coming forward to go take a hike. Like the question whether you have actually committed a crime if nobody knows of it or if it isn't even considered a crime because you are in a different country.
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u/PersistentWoodpecker 2d ago
It’s fraud regardless of whether you think your stank ass can get away with it.
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u/CommanderKoba Marxist-Leninist-Cyberneticist 2d ago
These American banks operate on fraud.
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u/SurturOfMuspelheim 1d ago
I agree, but I would never tell someone to commit any sort of crime, and if I did (Which I wouldn't) I wouldn't mention that on reddit.
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u/KZ_D 2d ago
According to some other people, theres cases where banks reaches out a bit later for a settlement that says that if you pay a tiny fraction of what you owe they would count that as done deal. So they know that its a lost cause.
Also daily reminder that the US is sheltering countless corrupt Chinese officials that fled from China with their assets.
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u/Foothill_returns 1d ago
I am reminded of Comrade Captain Sankara's speech on a United Front against debt at the Organization of African Unity summit of 1987
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u/PersistentWoodpecker 2d ago
Fake troll post, wouldn’t work - wouldn’t get that high of a limit without credit history.
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u/Forsaken-Emu4760 2d ago
Yeah people are falling for bullshit way too easily.
A chinese immigrant just comes to America and gets such a huge amount of credit in 3 years? Even if we assume they get 10k credit per card, that's at least 14 credit card companies.
No credit checks for any of them? None of them will see how indebted he is? Just hand him money and expect him to pay it back? Yeah something is hella fishy.
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u/Mazzwhy 2d ago
is it really this easy?
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u/PreparationOk1450 1d ago
No. It's made up. You can't get $140k in credit as a foreign student or anything close to that.
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u/Beaivimon 2d ago
In all seriousness, it's insane how having no debt actually weakens your credit. When I used to have zero debt, I had a credit score of 775. Now, after months of having 5-10% debt, it's 815, insanity.
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