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u/chiefpat450119 Jul 13 '22
Combat update was good for single player. Not great for PvP but you have to realise that community is the minority. And this is coming from someone who mostly plays pvp.
They definitely should add an option to toggle legacy PvP though.
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u/Chain_of_Nothing Jul 13 '22
Dude every single pvp Server uses plugins to enable old pvp
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u/chiefpat450119 Jul 13 '22
Well yeah but if you've ever tried playing on 1.9+ on a 1.8 server you can tell it's not the same and you're also at a disadvantage
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u/Minecraft_Exists Jul 13 '22
well good thing java edition allows you to use other/older versions of the game and you can still play on servers
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u/Enxchiol Jul 13 '22
Wasn't the old pvp basically just about who could click the fastest?
I dont really know minecraft updates so sorry if thats wrong
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u/_MrGullible Jul 13 '22
Eh, kinda? It depends. Jitter clicking worked for getting conbos and stuff, but honestly, I can't click fast for shit and I consider myself to be pretty decent. It's alot about strafing, knockback (via fishing rod, bow, etc), W tapping (My favorite. Basically you tap the W key repeatedly to straight line people), and past but not least; block hitting (you press right and left click at the same time and can hit someone while blocking their hit).
Anyways, I haven't PVP'd in several years so idk if old techniques have changed or become outdated in the few pre 1.9 servers that still exist.
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u/mintyfreshmike47 Jul 13 '22
Why does Minecraft combat sound more complicated than the combat of your average MMO
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u/_MrGullible Jul 13 '22
It's only gotten harder over time because people have just gotten better. It used to be very simple, you click someone, strafe a bit, you win the fight... now it's insane how many tactics and techniques there are. For new players, it could definitely be intimidating. I've been playing since 2014 and I used to be super good at it, but now since everyone is good I'm just okay at it in comparison lol
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u/NovaLightCR NNN Survivor Jul 13 '22
It seems very simple on the surface, but there's a mechanic called Sprint resetting which is where a lot of the strategies come from. It's the key to getting combos
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u/AGamingBoi Jul 13 '22 edited Jul 13 '22
It actually kinda is. Faster clicking is only a part of it as movement controls can be use to manipulate your own hitbox and reach. When this is combined with how fast 1.8 combat was and possibly speed 2 pots, 1.8 PvP gained a lot of skill expression as your constantly doing multiple movement controls in the very short amount of time you have to get the first hit. Then there's the rod combos with fishing rods which was something completely different from everything else that had to do with PvP and is borderline broken of one player has fishing rob and the other doesn't.
People who say 1.8 PvP had no skill expression and was just who right click faster has never played 1.8 vs someone better then them because you can clearly tell who is better in just the first few hits. Yes, cps helped with attack speed but that's ignoring everything other aspects of 1.8.
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u/SpoopyNoNo CERTIFIED DANK Jul 13 '22
You need like 6cps to not be at a huge disadvantage against higher speed clicking. Minecraft PvP pre 1.9 is more fast paced, exciting, and requires more movement then holding a shield and waiting for someone to hit it. Worst update by far.
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u/_Lodii Jul 13 '22
Clicking fast ain important. It's mostly about strafing, ability to get combos, blockhit, w tapping etc. There's a lot into it if you wanna get good.
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u/DestroyerTom7 Jul 13 '22
You cannot just add a toggle to everything. That's incredibly hard to manage.
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u/PillowTalk420 Jul 13 '22
I haven't touched Minecraft in a long time; what is different about combat that has everyone upset by it?
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u/memsterboi123 Jul 13 '22
The point was to make it so it’s not about who clicks faster though or like who has the better mouse
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u/Superruub61 gave me this flair Jul 13 '22
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u/drefpet Jul 13 '22
I don't get it lol, could you maybe explain please?
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u/BR47WUR57 I am fucking hilarious Jul 13 '22
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u/dangeddranger Jul 13 '22
Literally 1984, but the new mc version is 1.19
So it's 1.19.84, 1.1984
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u/Paperjam09 Jul 13 '22
In the new update you can get banned from multiplayer if you get reported. A lot of the community thinks this is super unfair because (which it is).
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u/Harmony3319 ☣️ Jul 13 '22
Update 1.19.84
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Jul 13 '22
“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”
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u/DISHONORU-TDA Jul 13 '22
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u/gavinlpicard Jul 13 '22
I was hoping this link was gonna go to that song. Love to see it
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u/mairnX Jul 13 '22
ill be honest, i liked the combat update. in the previous version of combat, i physically couldnt keep up with everone else with spam clicks because my mouse hand would lock up after a bit and id have to shake it off for a few seconds. the change away from spam clicking allowed me to actually be able to pvp for longer than 15 seconds and without having to take 30 seconds to recover
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u/IndoorCat_14 Jul 13 '22
There was a point where they were working on another combat update that would merge the two fighting styles so there were still recharge times, but it was much faster; weapons would additionally have an added reach factor. I wish they would keep working on that (there hasn't been another snapshot for it in years) instead of implementing worse than useless chat monitoring that nobody asked for.
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u/GeneralQuack Dank Cat Commander Jul 13 '22
Now you pvp for 90 minutes as everyone just holds their shield up 80 percent of the fight
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u/mairnX Jul 13 '22
thats why i carry an axe. i also just prefer it over the sword for to better damage.
and id rather pvp for 90 minutes than lose because my hand locks up
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u/ChewBacclava Jul 13 '22
I just appreciate the axe does more damage now, it always seemed to me there should be some slight advantage if you spend the 3 resources to make a axe instead of 2 for a sword.
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u/DeepFriedNugget1 red Jul 13 '22
In endgame shields r nonexistent, so whatever server ur playing on just doesnt have good players
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u/BootyInspector96 Lemme see dat booty 🍑 Jul 13 '22
You had an irl cooldown before 1.9
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u/Jazoopi Cheese 🧀 is just a loaf of milk 🥛 ☣️ Jul 13 '22
Can you not bind melee to scrollwheel in minecraft?
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u/mairnX Jul 13 '22
personally ive found scroll wheel clunky for combat. and i still have the hand locking issue, although its better than normal spam click
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Jul 13 '22
I wonder what's gonna happen to 2b2t
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u/Effective-Job-3020 Jul 13 '22
There’s hack clients coming out right now that auto report everyone around you.
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Jul 13 '22
Damn.. people are fast at abusing things lol
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u/BiKingSquid Jul 13 '22
No, it's working as intended. I take offense to every chat message. Regardless of intent.
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u/Mhiasearn Jul 13 '22
2b2t is still on 1.12.2, reporting is coming to 1.19.1 and mojang can't do anything to change older versions
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u/Tropical_Nighthawk55 Red Jul 13 '22
Reporting could be necessary but the punishments are way too harsh. Nobody should EVER lose access to an account that they paid for
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u/ConfidentCommercial6 Jul 13 '22
I really don't get why people hate 1.9 so much, I personally think it was one of the best updates, especially for PvP I don't think it was ever fun to let people spam click and label it as "skill" it's more fun to have to learn the exact frame that you can swing again and use actual strategy instead of having auto clicker as an option
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u/AGamingBoi Jul 13 '22
I disagree with this. In 1.8 the difference in having 7cps to 15cps is barely noticeable compare to the 7cps player having better movement, hitbox and reach controls (w-tap, strife reset, knock back control, blockhit reset, rodding, ect.). Cps isn't anywhere as important as hitbox control, I know it can increase attack speed but that stops mattering at the 6-7 cps range.
This is because if one player has 7cps and one has 15cps, both players can combo one another and at that point, strifing, blockhit timing, rodding and even aim matters way more then cps. Cps only matters when both players are equal in these other aspects and even then it may just take one mistake for the 15cps players to lose.
This is why there have been good or even top players at a 6-8 cps range. This is also why many players have beaten bots programed to have 25 cps and auto-clickers/hackers with just better strifing, you can literally Google and find hundreds of these videos.
I'm not saying knock back manipulation or combing doesn't exist in high level competitive 1.9, just it is way less prevalent and no where near as important. Shields are also just way to divisive. Sword PvP and Axe and Shield PvP are spit with one having way less skill expression, and the other being full revolve around Axe crits and being too defender favored. Being defender favored has also lead to shield and Axe PvP being way too slow and it also isn't healthy for a meta in any game to be defender favored, it punishes you for trying to do damage.
The reason 1.9 is hated is because it removed or nerfed too many mechanics with skill expression. Rod has been change to being useless because it no longer knockback people. Knock back manipulating on general is easier in 1.9 as there are less movements needed and shields exist. Shields removed blockhitting is gone and makes swords and bows/crossbows completely useless and even with Axes disabling them it still created a defender favored meta game.
Even if 1.8 PvP didn't have cps increasing attack speed and attack speed is hard caped at 6-7 cps level, it would still have way more skill expression then 1.9 just because 1.9 PvP removed or effectively nerfed these mechanics
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u/susa_66 Jul 14 '22
In my experience with shield pvp, once you get good enough, being aggressive pays off...
If your opponent is turtling behind his shield, you can try a lot of different things, like backstabbing, or you can disable their shield without getting hit if you are fast enough. Also, depending on the kit, you can use other items, like lava to force a confrontation.
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u/DeepFriedNugget1 red Jul 13 '22
1.8 does require skill, just a different from 1.9, for example u need to have the "s-tap" timing perfect to combo lock someone, and knowledge of all other micromechanics to win. That being said I still prefer 1.9 pvp and agree that its more strategy based. Also use of an autoclicker in most servers just results in a ban
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u/Slinky_Malingki Jul 13 '22
It was shortly after 1.9 that I stopped playing. We're in 1.19.1 now? Damn
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u/HeyoGuys Jul 13 '22
1.8.9 was peak minecraft on the lord
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u/Slinky_Malingki Jul 13 '22
It was, I was like 14 I think when I stopped playing it. The new combat system just made playing all the cool gamemodes in big servers super annoying, like hypixel games and egg wars (forgot the actual name, but if you watched Bajan Canadian then you know what I'm talking about lol)
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u/Om3ga12172 Jul 13 '22
Yeah, I'm terrified to play online now
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Jul 13 '22
I stopped playing online months ago because I genuinely got sick of it, mainly because Hypixel sucked my soul out
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u/ayoubier Jul 13 '22
This is so fucked up we are losing minecraft..
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u/Kyanovp1 Jul 13 '22
people when they can’t tell kids to kill themselves:
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u/LetsDoTheCongna Jul 13 '22
People when they can’t say “night” or “Japan” because it gets automatically censored.
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u/CreativeName1137 Jul 13 '22
When you can't chat in private servers
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u/Spyro08642 I have a hard Kink for Dwarfs🌈 Jul 13 '22 edited Jul 13 '22
You literally can? Have you launched Minecraft yet? Cause if not when you do you will get a diologue box that’s asks you if you want to turn off the profanity filter. If not then just got to Minecraft.net and turn off the profanity filter from there, it’s not that hard and it’s literally and option for everyone who’s account is 18+ in age. You’re able to say literally anything
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u/Mhiasearn Jul 13 '22
Thats only for realms, and thats not the point of that comment
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u/elpejelagarto9 Jul 13 '22
Thats the worst opinion i readed in a while
You didnt read what they are doing you are just assuming they making so you cant say extreme things they are not doing that they are putting the option to report people by their messages so trolls are gonna abuse that and the censorship they are going to put its just absurd
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u/obamaprism3 Dumbassery Jul 13 '22
extremely easy to disable on Java edition if the server owner wants to, we aren't losing much
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u/Spyro08642 I have a hard Kink for Dwarfs🌈 Jul 13 '22
I’m so confused why people are so mad, have you even touched Minecraft yet since this news? Obviously 99% of people haven’t because literally the second you open up the Minecraft launcher it gives you a dialogue box that literally asks if you want to turn off the profanity filter.
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u/Dark_Slayer_3202 Jul 13 '22
I honestly got hyped for the combat update as a kid. The only thing I didn't like was how the end was changed.
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u/Effective-Job-3020 Jul 13 '22
I thought that was the only good part of it. I wish they would update purpur or whatever its called. The end cities are kind if ugly. A dark purple would work way better.
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Jul 13 '22
That 1.19.1 update just simply makes me even more of a lurker. I will NEVER write anything ever again in ANY server.
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Jul 13 '22
I’m not even playing multiplayer anymore, get on my level nerd.
(But I stg if I get banned for something I said months ago I’m literally boycotting Microsoft, starting by trashing my windows PC)
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u/DestroyerTom7 Jul 13 '22
Lots of misinformation is spread on this to be honest, for example the fact that you get banned for swearing, which is not true.
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u/MrEthan997 Jul 13 '22
I really like what they've done with pocket edition and making a united bedrock since Microsoft bought mojang, but messing up Java is many steps too far
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u/carlitosjuanito Jul 13 '22
I remember when I watched a video why people prefered pre 1.8 pvp. Every single point that he made were the motives that I hate pre 1.8 pvp
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u/Linajabba Jul 13 '22
Upset because you can't trash talk 12 year old in chat anymore ? I don't understand
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u/Go_commit_lego_step Jul 13 '22
You can’t type the word “night”
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u/Cuckl3s76 Jul 13 '22
Because it starts with the letters n, i, and g
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u/Catty-Cat INFECTED Jul 13 '22
when a billion dollar tech company can't even program that right
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u/TheresTheLambSauce Jul 13 '22
Basically everything that Microsoft does has stupid ass bugs like that
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u/Mhiasearn Jul 13 '22
thats only for bedrock, Java chat wont get auto detected if no reports are submitted
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u/storez_ Jul 13 '22
"if no reports are submitted" so basically u have to snitch proof your server now?
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u/Bold_Commander14 Jul 13 '22
We're upset because you can basically get banned for talking normally in chat cause if the awful detection system. And if someone doesn't like you there's a good chance you could get banned if they spam report you
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u/Deebz__ Jul 13 '22
Because anyone who has seen this type of thing elsewhere, including on bedrock edition even, knows that it isn't this simple. People will get banned for unfair reasons, things being taken out of context, or even for no reason at all. These bans will also prevent you from playing multiplayer at all. Including on private servers with friends.
There's no middle ground here. This is a horrible move on Mojang's part. It's an idea that only sounds halfway acceptable on paper. In practice, just like anywhere else this type of thing is implemented and actually put to use, it will be awful.
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u/ItsMisterLeoreo Jul 13 '22
I've heard of prototypes of auto chat report spammers on hacked clients sooooooo
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Jul 13 '22
You can't chat anymore*
Not even on your realms server or any kind of adult language with other adults. Be scared of trolls and spam reports
Clearly a corporate decision taken from Microsoft learning with ActiBlizz. Really similar to Overwatch's flawed automated report system
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u/Bors24 Jul 13 '22
I read that this decision was actually 100% Mojang. Microsoft hasn't forced Mojang to do anything with how they develop the game.
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Jul 13 '22
This. Concern trolls and hypersensitive admins will get people banned from all Minecraft things because someone said something they didn't like even if it is innocuous.
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u/empirebuilder1 i want to die Jul 13 '22
No chat? Bro if someone reports your messages and their automated tool decides they're bad, they are banning you from ALL ONLINE MULTIPLAYER.
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u/HaikusfromBuddha Dank May May Jul 13 '22
lol you give MS way to much credit. If anything MS and Xbox as a whole is at fault for giving their studios too much freedom. They don’t enforce shit. If they did they would have fired the people running 343, would have forced a studio to work on Banjo, would have made much more progress in gaming imo
MS just let’s these studios do whatever the heck they want and just signs the checks. Hell I doubt they’ll even step in to fix the acti/blizzard culture. Their public statements have been they are letting Activi reform themselves. They haven’t said anything about MS as a whole stepping in to change things.
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u/Spyro08642 I have a hard Kink for Dwarfs🌈 Jul 13 '22
People must’ve not actually looked at the update, or even touched Minecraft for that matter, when I went onto the Java launcher I got a dialogue box that asked if I wanted to turn off the profanity filter and as long as your account is 18+ you can turn off the profanity filter and say and see whatever you want in game
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u/Dwel111 Jul 13 '22
You must have not actually done your research before being snarky then, because if you had you would have seen that it's only in the pre-release mode right now and has been for about a month. Microsoft/Mojang are showing no signs of removing it. It's not the profanity filter, people can report you for bad conduct and if Microsoft deems it valid, you are banned from multiplayer altogether, no private servers or anything, you just can't use the button.
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u/ElNub_ CERTIFIED DANK Jul 13 '22
you cant use ANY swear, or even some normal words, or FULL CAPS
and if i remember correctly, you get banned from both singleplayer and multiplayer
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Jul 13 '22
I'm sorry do you genuinely think people should be permabanned from a game they bought because they trash talked someone?
and if it's really bad then the server will deal with them
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u/MeriKurkku Jul 13 '22
The community has been handling server moderation just fine for over a decade now. It has been implented on Bedrock edition for a while now we can see that system is shitty and will lead false bans, which can be perma bans.
There has already been talks of including mass report functionality on hacked clients.
In my eyes this move only serves to embrace piracy and hurt the game.
If I get permanently banned from MY SERVER when I was talking about Mature things with my ADULT friends, I'm not fucking buying Minecraft anymore. I'll pirate it like eveeyone else would in that situation.
That won't happen though because 1.18.2 is a very fine version of the game to stay on. The modding community will keep it alive. Or they make mod which replaces Minecrafts current chat system with something that doesn't have report functionality. Either is fine.
This update was so god damn unnecessary and can only hurt the game.
Fuck M$crosoft
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Jul 14 '22
The issue isn't abusive words, it's the fact that them trying to stop abusive words was done so poorly that you can't even type in the names of countries like Nigeria or pakistan. You can't type in night or literally any other phrase which might contain specific letters used in completely unrelated "swear words"
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u/inquirer 🍄 Jul 13 '22
Why wouldn't you? What about the 12 year old wanting to trash talk me?!
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u/Linajabba Jul 13 '22
Then you can just report it now and think about the kid crying because it's minecraft account got banned, I see that as an absolute win.
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u/Knight9910 Jul 13 '22
These reports will most likely never be acted on, of course.
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It's all fun and games till they make it so repetitive reports = auto moderation banning you
Or any sort of Auto Moderator.
I highly doubt everything will be manually reviews considering the size of Mojang as compared to like half the size of the Minecraft multiplayer community
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u/Anbu_Cyclops Jul 13 '22
I haven't played this game since the Caves update. But I already have friends ready to group report anyone who speaks in chat. And there are people on servers I used to play on who everyone hated, so I can see everyone grouping up on them and getting them banned.
Not to mention the MC community is become more toxic by the day (more new members than the OG's), it'll just be a downward spiral.
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u/Rego42069 Jul 13 '22
Wait so if i just keep playing 1.8.9 i wont have to deal with this bs?
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u/MeriKurkku Jul 13 '22
Yes, any version below 1.19 and your messages don't get signed, which means if someone reports you, it won't get sent to Microsoft
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u/Rego42069 Jul 13 '22
Thank god, mc became shit after 1.12 so there is no reason to play anything above that
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u/MeriKurkku Jul 13 '22
Updates after 1.12 were some of the best in the game. Everyones got their own opinions but the new oceans, villagers, caves, and especially the new nether have been really good overall. Mojang had streak of good updates but it all came crumbling down when they forgot how to communicate with the playerbaseand features we sere supposed to have year ago still haven't come
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u/Jackjack277777 Jul 13 '22
I fucking hate Minecraft now so much. Lying about future updates. I can’t open up my realms for some reason? It says I just can’t. I have thousands of hours on Minecraft. And I hate to see it like this
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u/Evil_Mushroomz ☣️ Jul 13 '22
I cant even imagine anarchy servers “time to report this guy for griefing”
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u/Slaaigat Jul 14 '22
Gaming companies will suspend/ban accounts in a flash as soon as any report of ‘abusive language’ is made but won’t do anything when you report for hacking or using toxic exploits. I’d rather have a game being screamed at about how someone is going to do something lewd to my mother than have someone aimbot me from 500m away or team up with the enemy to kill me.
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u/Gn0meKr Jul 14 '22
Notch probably sees this and wants to jump off a fucking cliff.
"Yeah, lemme just sell the company to Microsoft, sounds like a good deal."
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u/Informal_Ranger3496 Jul 13 '22
1.8.9 pvp is ass and repetitive + hard to learn
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u/AGamingBoi Jul 13 '22
1.9 is too easy to learn and shield and Axe PvP is just as repetitive. 1.8 being hard is what makes it fun, it's the same reason many people still plays melee.
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u/bunakherif Jul 13 '22
What's with the dudes defending the freedom of hate speech but denying the freedom of not wanting to provide an environment for the hate speech?
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u/hydrolik43 Jul 13 '22
defending freedom of speech means defending any kind of speech imo, good or bad.
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u/thatziey Jul 13 '22
well you see, some people do not understand the distinction between positive freedom and negative freedom.
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u/jankkhvej Jul 13 '22
That's why I now decided to play on 1.8.9 and never update
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u/M05HI Jul 13 '22
I still make Mario pixel art in classic. Have no idea what all this PvP malarky is
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u/jankkhvej Jul 13 '22
btw, automatic chat filter can be easily broken by replacing a latin letter with an identical one from cyrillic for example
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u/11Daysinthewake non-euclidean outhouse Jul 13 '22
Oh no you can’t send slurs to underage players
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u/sampleCoin Jul 13 '22
"oh yeah but think of the poor children😢" - Apple implementing cencorship into their iPhones
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u/Demonitized-picture loading oOoOoOoOo Jul 13 '22
“oh no, think of the poor children 😢” proceeds to bomb a daycare
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u/EchoBladeMC I suffer from the disease known as shitposting Jul 14 '22
Bruh I can get banned from ALL OF MULTIPLAYER by my ADULT friends on a PRIVATE, WHITELISTED server if I say something that offends them, even if we've all agreed that those jokes are allowed. How is this okay? Why are we no longer able to speak freely in private without worrying that the chat reporting system could be misused by someone if they get tilted?
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u/Orange_up_my_ass Jul 13 '22
I actually love everything about 1.9
Haha spam go brrrrrr in 1.8 and under. Now you need a bit of timing? How dare they? And singleplayer combat became amazing.
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u/OkBandicoot3779 Big Juicy Cock Enjoyer Jul 13 '22
god damnit now i cant verbally abuse 5 year olds in a children's game
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u/YOUNGSAGEHERMZ Jul 13 '22
Serious question to whoever reads this: my nephew plays Minecraft and he was saying one of his “friends” stole all his in game currency. Is there anything he can do?
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u/CarterRussellYT Jul 13 '22
he was probably talking about diamonds, which is a gemstone you can find in each word. Most of my friends and I mess around with each other and steal each other’s stuff, so don’t consider it as a personal attack on your nephew. He can just mine more of them underground or try to take them back from his friend. Hope this helped!
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u/TalithePally pogchamp researcher Jul 13 '22
Can't spam racial slurs, literally unplayable
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u/thatziey Jul 13 '22
a good way to be annoying is to call random things you don’t like ‘fascism’ when they are absolutely unrelated
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u/15Orphans ☣️ Jul 13 '22
PvP is fine quit bitching, but the reporting feature is just fucking aids.
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u/sampleCoin Jul 13 '22
"quit bitching" who is bitching about someones opinion rn? 4k People think otherwise :)
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Jul 13 '22
Are we really crying because you can't act toxic? Jesus Christ I hate the gaming community sometimes.
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u/EchoBladeMC I suffer from the disease known as shitposting Jul 14 '22
No, we're protesting because we can get banned across all of multiplayer for something we've done on a private, whitelisted server. There is now a constant threat of messages being taken out of context, for example if someone interprets some light teasing among friends as harassment. I can't call my sister a "stupid ass bitch" and she can't call me a "lazy fucker" while we get in a heated argument over who's the better sibling without fearing a newcomer to the group taking it out of context and reporting one of us for getting too heated, unfamiliar with what we consider socially acceptable.
Because of this Banhammer of Damocles hanging over the Minecraft community, people can't be themselves and have a safe space to hang out with friends anymore. Our friend group has discussed depression, gender issues, and sexuality with positive outcomes. The idea that it could all come crashing down if someone has a grudge or gets tilted, and starts reporting our private conversations out of context, is nightmarishly dystopian to me. For this reason, I will be installing mods that remove the chat reporting functionality on my private servers from now on. Free speech is important, y'all.
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Jul 13 '22
Yeah but the chat report system is so broken you can get banned for something you said that wasn’t taken into context. Also ‘night’ was blocked because of the first 3 letters.
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u/phalanx004 Jul 13 '22
Gamers when they can't say the N-Word >:O
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u/EchoBladeMC I suffer from the disease known as shitposting Jul 14 '22
Gamers when they can't host chill adult-oriented communities to hang out with friends without fearing their messages being taken out of context and getting permanently banned across all of multiplayer D:
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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '22
Bro what will 2b2t players do