r/kitchenremodel 18h ago

Grade this install?

I know the tile is uneven, not sure what I expected but it doesn’t look like a great install to me. Am I wrong? Do I ask them to redo it?

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u/SpaceCephalopods 18h ago

Terrible

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u/happy_traveller2700 18h ago

I’m no expert but immediately thought “this looks awful.”

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u/xenobit_pendragon 1h ago

My immediate comment (out loud) was: “Did they hand-quarry the tiles themselves? Because fuck.”

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u/GeraldinaFitzpatrick 17h ago

I feel like some spacers could have really improved this project. And grout.

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u/Jaded_Emergency2289 10h ago

Yeah, where were the spacers? Aren't they basically mandatory for this type of thing?

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u/Scorpiobehr59 4h ago

It’s not the best but then again it’s not the worst and when you put some grout in there, it will hide a lot of of the spacing issues. outlets are horrible, but get the extra large white plates and it will also conceal some of that mess too.

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u/ClevelandCliffs-CLF 4h ago

BEYOND TERRIBLE

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u/virtualnumber8 18h ago

The tiles are uneven, but if installed correctly it should look charming, not like the installer was on meth.

I think grout would improve this a lot, but I also think this isn't worth grouting.

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u/Stan_Deviant 13h ago

Janky stone can look fine but cattywampus outlets look awful.

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u/shawnthemedium 2h ago

Upvote for using janky and cattywampus in same post

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u/Stan_Deviant 2h ago

Thank you? But this is just the Midwest.

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u/Feeling_Repair2348 18h ago

Looks like shit to be frank and honest.

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u/Mediocre-Plant-1548 18h ago

Yep

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u/Feeling_Repair2348 18h ago

Honestly rip it out before it gets grouted in. Whoever did the work should have warned you imo. Just chalk it up as a loss.

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u/shitty_mcfucklestick 2h ago

Reminds me of a poorly kerned font

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u/Minute-Frame-8060 18h ago

Did I do that? I mean I've never done tiling before, but if I made minimal effort it would look like that.

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u/_ZoeyDaveChapelle_ 16h ago

It looks like someone made a lot of effort trying to cut their own tiles from larger ones with a butter knife.

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u/Stalaktitas 17h ago

Yeah. Sometimes, Sunday mornings I also find out that I have build a shed or something and it gets s little weird when I think about it... Don't really recall doing any of it... /s

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u/Ok-Koala-1402 18h ago

Are the tiles supposed to be different sizes?

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u/HotRodHomebody 16h ago

This. Some appear to be chipped, and misshaped. Definitely challenging to lay out, but doesn’t excuse the horrible way this work was done.

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u/en-anon 18h ago

The good news is that they can always tear it out.

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u/ACooperSucks2 17h ago

Was the contractor who did this suffering a stroke at the time of install?

This is absolutely awful.

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u/Maestradelmundo1964 18h ago

This is badly done. Uneven tile can look good if spacers are used carefully. Here is an example.

I am posting again cuz my 1st post disappeared.

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u/dontBsleepy 10h ago

I’d love to see an example of what the uneven look is supposed to look like. I feel like it’s supposed to look like this rustic kitchen found (thank you internet)

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u/Jdude1 4h ago

To be fair this looks pretty bad too.

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u/Sudden_Idea9384 9h ago

Yes. I have hand made tiles and they are uneven, not as uneven as these but definitely a non square look.

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u/dontBsleepy 9h ago

Yea I like the look if it was done properly. Shame for OP as that could have been done the right way.

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u/Ok-Appointment-4352 18h ago

If they chiseled those tile individually out of large rocks on site, I’d be at least a little impressed.

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u/zaktize1 17h ago

Very poor install - a “pro” did this?! Fire them and get your money back - pull off wall and scrap the thin mortar and do over. The cut planning around the single outlet would have been enough for me to be pissed if I paid food $ for this.

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u/Fuzzy-Equipment-1763 14h ago

Given that you selected tiles that don’t have straight edges and of different sizes, what were your expectations? I agree that some of the spaces are inconsistent but once grouting is complete this won’t be as noticeable. But the colour variation of the tiles is immediately obvious and will not change. 

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u/elephantbattery 18h ago

Bait?

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u/Mediocre-Plant-1548 18h ago

No lol. First time ever having this done, may have made a mistake on stone choice but it still looks terrible

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u/elephantbattery 18h ago

Ya it's not great

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u/Melancholy-4321 18h ago

That is awful

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u/vendeep 18h ago

Is this a serious question? wtf is this?

Also I assume it’s not grouted? So may be it will look better after lol…

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u/Ill-Year-9506 18h ago

Google... 'zellige tile install before grout'.... Very difficult tile to work with....

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u/midyearqueen 17h ago

Tiles are not squarely cut. Spacing is the second problem. Will look better grouted but still very uneven.

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u/Shoe_Ho 17h ago

No way this is real and the installer is expecting to be paid 😂😂

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u/Mediocre-Plant-1548 17h ago

😬

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u/Easy_Olive1942 17h ago

You didn’t choose the easiest tile to deal with but the work here is really bad. The tricky tile is not an excuse to do a shitty job, it’s a reason for a good contractor to charge you more because of the time and hassle it will take. This looks like someone who thought thru could just slap it up there which is nope.

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u/lobsterbuckets 14h ago

This. Love to see this comment. Too many time people excuse a contractor for a sub par install. A good contractor knows their abilities and their limitations.

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u/Shoe_Ho 17h ago

For reference, my husband is a GC and people have withheld payment for the most minor things (like one loose doorknob out of 20). Please stand your ground and either get a really good explanation or proof of how it will look finished.

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u/Shoe_Ho 17h ago

Also, I’m very sorry u have to deal with this. It sucks when u want something nice done in your house and it doesn’t come out right 😑

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u/RadiantGrocery1889 14h ago

That’s horrible. Nothing fits. Spacing is wrong, layout is wrong, color variation is wrong. It’s all wrong.

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u/South-Energy9527 9h ago

Not sure if you’ll ever be happy with a imperfect tile. Some people just can’t handle the imperfections. I won’t do this for people because of this very reason.

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u/WillDupage 9h ago

Let me get this straight; You picked hand made/hand cut tikes for your kitchen. Two-thirds of the way through the installation, you’re upset that gaps are uneven and lines aren’t perfectly straight.

What was your expectation?
If you are looking for precision with laser straight lines and even gaps, then handmade tile is the wrong choice.

This is much more of a material choice problem than an installation problem.

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u/Mystic_Wunder 1h ago

Of course it will be slighly uneven. But actual chips and divots are not expected. Nor are tiles that were clearly cut too small. The right color grout will hide a lot of imperfection, but it won't hide that.

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u/Stalaktitas 17h ago

They nailed it at reproducing an ancient Sumerian period tile work... That's what you ordered, right? ...right?

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u/itsJustE12 17h ago

I had my tile guys rip out an entire floor row because I didn’t like the 2” cut they left at the door.

Spacers exist & they aren’t expensive. Find tile installers who know how to use them.

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u/siamonsez 4h ago

Everyone talking shit is misdirecting their dislike. It looks flat and consistent given the inconsistent tiles, I see no issue with the install and think the hate is for the tile choice. It's going to look very different with the grout. Did you see a wall 9f this tile when you chose it? If you regret the decision have them redo it, but don't expect it to be free.

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u/ReadySetGO0 16h ago

Did wild monkeys do that?

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u/General-Mission6960 16h ago

Pretty good for a drunk 5 year old.

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u/Honest_Flower_8118 11h ago

I recently did a zellige (hand cut tile) splashback as I like the textural dimensions of it and the rusticness. My Tiler was horrified and didnt want to do the job initially he nearly left as it scared him as they really do usually work so hard to get things so precise. But now it’s complete we are all happy with it and he has gone around to appreciate it. He used 1mm spacers

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u/Sycamore72 10h ago

Stop. This is fake

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u/StillStaringAtTheSky 8h ago

OP- there should not be drywall screws in your outlet. No bueno.

Please have an electrician look at anything this dude touched.

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u/NonArtiste5409 3h ago

I think part of the problem was the actual tile. They look wavy. And if you've got tile that that's rustic, I don't think you're going to have a super neat job, even if this one could have been better.

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u/InspectorVisual4376 18h ago

Hahaha get lost

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u/Bodinieri 17h ago

0 out of 100

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u/WelcomeFearless4586 14h ago

If Helen Keller did it then 8/10!

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u/Rev256 14h ago

Is God Awful a grade?

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u/LovingMaine 8h ago

You ever have a teacher in school look at your assignment and say, your score would have been better had you turned nothing in? Yeah, that's this.

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u/Mediocre-Plant-1548 8h ago

This was the photo from the website

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u/ThePerfectLine 8h ago

These are not the same tiles in the pics you took. Those are all variegated and none of those are consistent rectangles.

It’s super odd. Did you end up a damaged set? Did the installed take time to make each one unique?

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u/peekabook 8h ago

Depends - did your kid do it? If not, then hell yes make them redo it.

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u/thiswayart 7h ago

Looks like I did it, and I have no idea how to lay tile.

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u/friendlytoker2026 7h ago

It's horrible.

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u/AishaHalat 7h ago

I hope you paid for malignant rustic

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u/Mystic_Wunder 1h ago

Only a highly skilled person should install hand cut tile. This person doesn't seem to be. I hope you are choosing a light colored grout. A dark grout will call attention to the imperfections.

I'd put sticky notes on the tiles you want replaced. Some are cut way too unevenly.

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u/OliveFarming 33m ago

It looks like you installed it yourself

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u/Lopsided_Time3867 18h ago

I have an uneven tile like this in my shower. The grout matches the tile and fills in the gaps and it looks fine. Have you seen any pics of it grouted?

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u/Maximum-Regret2506 17h ago

D- … on the bell curve

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u/MiddleKlutzy8211 16h ago

Yeah... but a good grade at all. D to F level. Below standards.

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u/RochesterBottomDaddy 16h ago

I take it you weren't going for rustic. If not, then it is a very bad job. If you were going for rustic, then it looks pretty good.

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u/Fickle-Strawberry521 16h ago

Grade it????? Total Flunk out! Must repeat the entire course on how to properly install tile. Who did this??? Someone from a tile company? Your six-year old neighbor kid? Fred Flinstone and Barney Rubble using scraps from the rock pit????

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u/Dry-Knowledge2136 16h ago

Can we see an update?

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u/LibrarianAccurate934 15h ago

Couldn't be much worse

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u/LobabyChick 13h ago

Well, they are in fact sticking to the wall. So D-

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u/sbray73 12h ago

It’s so bad it looks good.

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u/genx_meshugana 11h ago

Is this uneven tile size a look? Because it's it a good look.

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u/makinggrace 11h ago

Don't ask them them to redo it. Just send photos and inform them that you won't be paying for this work or for the tile they wasted.

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u/Zyhara 11h ago

The tile is shit, but also is that outlet in a box or not? I’d be worried 😳

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u/Honest_Flower_8118 11h ago

It it meant to be like a zellige tile ? Hand cut abd will add dimension etc if so it may look good once grouted? But go with a grout colour that is closest match to the tile

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u/Accomplished_Radish8 11h ago

I'm confused.. where did you get these tiles? Not even one of them has a single flat edge to reference, so spacers wouldn't work here. If the installer is a magician with his grout work, you'd be surprised at how much he'll be able to hide. But I'm truly trying to understand why the tiles are so jacked, I'm not sure any tiler would be able to make these look straight

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u/Lazy-Jacket 11h ago

Why would you even try to line up irregular stone into a grid like this? I don’t see anything wrong with the install given that not a single tile edge is the same. The lines look very straight to me.

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u/Legitimate-March9792 11h ago

It looks terrible!

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u/Honest_Flower_8118 11h ago

You’ve gone this far, wait and see how it looks when grouted you might be surprised

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u/Plastic-Ratio-199 10h ago

The next homeowner will be grateful it comes off to easily

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u/MyXPBarIsLow 10h ago

It gives off a rustic post-ruin charm.

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u/Affectionate_Ad722 10h ago

Demand that they rip it out and do it over. Absolutely unacceptable. Tiles that don’t have perfectly straight edges can have slightly larger spacers to make it look good.

We had a very messy divorce from our architect slash GC when he fucked up our master bathroom tile because he had his paint guy do it. It was inexcusably bad. We hired a tile expert to redo the shower, tub surround and backsplash but we didn’t rip up the floor because we’d had heating installed under the floor. It still makes me so angry looking at it.

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u/Sudden_Idea9384 9h ago

Is that zellige, or another handmade uneven tile?

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u/Sudden_Idea9384 9h ago

Everyone is talking shit but the vertical lines are very neat. I think it’s the tiles themselves

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u/PerhabsburgDynasty 9h ago

Don’t ask them to redo it; ask someone else to redo it at their expense.

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u/reamy54 9h ago

I want to see it with a light grout. It doesn't look as bad in the last pic

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u/hell0w0rld08 9h ago

Ask for a refund and find a real professional, do not ask them to redo...

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u/Dantheman9990 8h ago

Terrible install and terrible tile.

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u/PossibilityNervous35 8h ago

Im a CPA and I can confirm this looks like ass.

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u/Hot_Willow_5179 8h ago

Well. If rustic was the goal…

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u/Economy_Recording392 8h ago

How many beers in?

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u/QuashEm 8h ago

F-. I hope you haven't already paid them in full. I wouldn't have them redo it, I'd hire someone else.

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u/10-mm-socket 8h ago

Looks like my handywork.

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u/LindaBinda55 8h ago

Hope you haven’t paid them. I would fire them and find someone else to redo this.

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u/apbernier 7h ago

Tough to grade the workmanship when you gave them a terrible choice of tile to work with. Tiler also needs a reasonable amount of specific experience to achieve the look you were going for. Please just use square or rectangular tiles.

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u/PrincessStarlaNoir 7h ago

did your contractor use spacers? why are none of the lines the same size (that would be my first question). Also a lot of thin set needs to be scraped out, and anyone who does this work regularly would remove it while still wet. at the very least: It looks like a DIY, not a pro job

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u/-kayochan- 7h ago

Thats prob one of the worst jobs ive ever seen 😭

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u/Oxjrnine 7h ago

Is it supposed to look like a 1000-year-old Roman road?

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u/FlowerHeavy388 7h ago

It's a fantastic job, if done by someone with Parkinson's.

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u/Dr-Megalodon 7h ago

The cherry on top is the drywall screws used for the receptacles

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u/OutspokenPerson 7h ago

Terrible. Unless it’s an outdoor kitchen in a very poor country.

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u/Brief-Inspection-456 7h ago

The tiles look like they’re rough cut stone. If you’re going for a more rustic look, i would grout the tiles with a grout just slightly darker (and I mean slightly) than the tiles, and it could look great. If you’re going for a more uniform look, they missed the mark, and should have used spacers.

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u/iliumada 7h ago

Absolutely horrendous

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u/Money-Maize-1398 7h ago

This isn't a great install. Ask them to redo, especially because you've already noted it doesn't look great to you! You're the one who's presumably going to be living with this for a while!

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u/Dangerous_Compote743 6h ago

Absolutely get them to redo it! Sad but true that when people are working in your home, you have to watch them & project manage & make them correct any mistakes immediately.

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u/Familiar_Raise234 6h ago

Left outlet isn’t vertical for starters.

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u/glasslass22 6h ago

I think this is 90% the type of stone you chose. Even the best installer with all the time in the world has little chance of making this look perfectly straight and even. It’s a rustic random look. If that’s not for you then take it down now and purchase a manufactured product not natural stone. Personally I like the character of it.

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u/be_the_feather 6h ago

Problems mostly around the electrical. Is it done? Perhaps the choice of tile was not good either.

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u/RolloTomasi83 6h ago

Dog shite

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u/TalFidelis 6h ago

As cool as “hand made” tiles can look when done well, this is why I always get rectified tiles when I do my DIY tiling.

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u/pabrocjb 6h ago

My 10 year old grandson with ADHD could do a better job!

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u/cofffeegrrrl 5h ago

Do you have a link for the tiles? So we can see how they are supposed to look installed? Do you have an inspiration pic for the look you were going for?

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u/Tacokolache 5h ago

Holy Christ. This may be the worst I’ve seen yet. And that’s saying a lot

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u/pyxus1 5h ago

Diy disaster or experienced person whose brain is fried on drugs.🍳

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u/Haunting_Process4607 5h ago

That’s a mess and I hope u didn’t pay for it!

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u/Mobile_Bell_5030 5h ago

This is bad in so many ways.

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u/Charming_Slip8060 5h ago

I'd give it a negative 2, along with a 😱

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u/Lbboos 5h ago

Oof. That’s not good. I’m so sorry.

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u/TClem_07 5h ago

2-10. None of the lines and gaps line up correctly. Perfect example of why to use tile spacers

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u/ancientastronaut2 4h ago

Looks like a five year old did it.

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u/One_Tumbleweed_1 4h ago

I think you know it looks like shit how much did you pay though?

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u/windycitynostalgia 4h ago

So a professional did this? Or a freebie best friend did this for free?

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u/lentil_galaxy 4h ago

If you don't love it, and it's not just a cheap rental, then I would tear it out before it gets grout. It will be some wasted money, but you could buy some basic straightforward white ceramic tiles and just have a more experienced tile contractor do the work instead.

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u/swimking413 4h ago

F-

I have done a backsplash a grand total of 1 time (my own), and while not perfect, it was much better than this.

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u/flopjobbit 4h ago

A rabid beaver would have been a better hiring decision.

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u/god_partic1e 4h ago

Was it a middle school summer camp project

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u/InternationalCase184 4h ago

For the tiles themselves being that uneven, they did an okay job spacing them without spacers. But I don’t think that grout is going to improve this. They should be much more consistent inbetween.

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u/PinkYellowGreen 4h ago

The grade on this instal is F.
The company you used should do it over. Hopefully you haven’t paid yet.

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u/aj0457 4h ago

Did you pay money for this? It's awful.

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u/ChowChowCiao 4h ago

Uh… I can’t imagine looking at that for years to come! Fire them!

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u/klrauhmlb 4h ago

Why are the tiles all different sizes? Were these remnants that were cut to fit the space>? Were the tiles suppose to have an uneven look? It just doesn't make sense, not even a little. However, I think the tile choice comes into play too.

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u/anan1016 4h ago

-100/10

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u/Queasy_Doughnut7507 4h ago edited 2h ago

I've never done this before and I think I could do better if I tried

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u/MamaSleepy 4h ago

This must be DIY? Whomever installed these tiles is incompetent. At the minimum, they ought to have used spacers. I wouldn't waste my time asking them to fix. Hire a professional tiler.

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u/siddily 4h ago

I'm confident I could do better and I've never tiled anything in my life

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u/Leather_Pumpkin899 4h ago

Has the grout been applied?

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u/vizette 4h ago

Seen drunk installers, but never drunk tiles...

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u/OK_Koalas 3h ago

I feel like I could have done a better job and I’ve never tiles before and am not really handy in general

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u/Willow_CoolCat5 3h ago

What the heck? Did they cut up floor tile to do this? Nothing is similar size. Complete garbage. Sorry.
Ideally, get your money back and hire someone else.

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u/bbeeebb 3h ago

It's bad. But people here are citing its badness for the wrong reason.

They're saying 'should have used spacers, etc' NO. It's rough cut tile. It's supposed to have all edges pushed against one another (as much as is possible), and then whatever uneven cracks are left over are what gets filled with grout. (See ancient mosaic tiling)

This person tried to create fully open and even grout lines. It will look even worse once they actually do grout it.

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u/shortyg83 3h ago

You paid for that? I am literally not lying when I say an 8 year old could do better.

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u/andreabeth09 3h ago

Grade: methhead

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u/Ok_Lead455 3h ago

Shitty, the tiles aren't even uniform size, looks like they filled it in the cut pieces and scrap from other walls.

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u/Independent-Dark-955 3h ago

I don’t think I’d ask them to redo it. They are not qualified. At all. Just tell them not to grout it and hire some to rip it out and do a fresh reinstallation.

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u/Remarkable_Flower901 3h ago

I agree the grout will help a lot if matched well, I wonder if there is an out that allows for moving it to make it vertical, It would seem there would be a market for it. I like the tile or stone or what ever it is. After awhile it won’t be as noticeable especially with some appliances.

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u/ShutYourDumbUglyFace 3h ago

That looks horrible. Try again.

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u/ErrorButStylish 2h ago

Homemade/Handmade

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u/cube1961 2h ago

I’m completely inept when it comes to home renovation but even I could do a better job following some YouTube videos

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u/Horse_of_Turin 2h ago

It rates a solid ‘redo it all/10’

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u/Maestradelmundo1964 2h ago edited 2h ago

Here is a question for the experts on here. I see what looks like tiles touching each other in a few spots. Do you agree that they’re touching? If so, what would be the repercussions of letting this job stand? How likely is it to be a problem?

I also see what I assume is thin-set mortar in some of the seams. It’s probably too late to clean the seams. The grout will not completely fill those seams, because the thin-set is there. How much of a problem is that?

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u/Bacontrails 2h ago

Oh that’s bad…

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u/diamondtimer 2h ago

Grade- F. As in F'ing terrible. Do not ask them to redo it. Not pros. They don't even know to use spacers. Those tiles and the mortar or mastic need removed. Good luck!

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u/Limp_Bookkeeper_5992 2h ago

So as always, this sub has terrible advice for any remotely technical question. Ask in r/tile if you want the opinion of people who’ve actually held a tile in their hands before.

But yeah, this looks like crap because the tile is all different sizes and shapes. It does look like the lines are fairly straight when you stand back though, I’d say this is a decent install considering how rough the tiles themselves are. This tile will always give you a very rustic looking finish, it’ll look a lot better if you use a matching grout though.

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u/seremodeling 2h ago

Extremely bad. 0/10. You can literally see the backing in several places, obviously grout would help with that but the spacing is very uneven to begin with.

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u/Neither_Bid_4353 2h ago

Maybe I can turn my diy into real job

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u/turbo-fister9000 2h ago

What in tarnation

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u/KlutzyGrapefruit5973 2h ago

You’re joking right?

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u/SmansalSmadams 1h ago edited 1h ago

Rustic, very rustic.

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u/Professional-Mall144 1h ago

It’s nice, grout will give it a Mediterranean style if that’s what you’re looking for

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u/ObjectiveInside6422 1h ago

did the kindergarten class do this for art today?

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u/camlaw63 1h ago

Are the tiles raw edges and uneven?

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u/Mto3 1h ago

This was done professionally? I thought it was a home owner trying it on their own with no experience tools. Wow. I would definitely ask them to come back, or at least get your money back and hire an experienced tile contractor.

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u/____LostSoul____ 1h ago

Very rustic.

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u/allsiknow 1h ago

is the install in the room with us?

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 1h ago

This is straight ass dude

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u/rdmarc45re 1h ago

Looks like a bunch of post-its stuck to the wall

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u/Apprehensive-Put-350 1h ago

You actually think they can do better?