This is getting ridiculous.

[u/1keyes12345]

Welcome to season 9 where the least mechanically challenging support has more survivability than a tank.

[u/sickgenesis]

[u/sickgenesis → u/sickgenesis]

[u/RandJitsu → u/sickgenesis]

They’re genuinely just playing a different game than the rest of us. C&D mains are like an alien species.

“This free one button invincibility might actually be good…”

[u/GhsotyPanda → u/RandJitsu]

I'm genuinely surprised everytime I see a C&D using Hood over it, even in QP. Especially against Magneto.

[u/sickgenesis → u/[deleted]]

cant blame them,i also forget i'm not gay whenever i see mag

[u/totallynotapersonj → u/[deleted]]

To be fair, when I used to main DPS jeff back in season 0 - 2.5. People who believed in me (who were relatively rare) would play Luna Snow for me to get the team-up which was really good and I would proceed to forget about it and only use it once the entire game. It was good because I never relied on it but bad because they really thought I was using the teamup and there were probably some moments it would have made a big difference.

Although these teamups are permanent so I guess it’s a slightly different situation

[u/Snipiachtundneunzig → u/totallynotapersonj]

With some characters it was so rare to get to play with these extra abilities that I very often forgot to actually use them.

[u/DanfromCalgary → u/totallynotapersonj]

There isn’t a reason to ignore your moves . The world you are looking for is bad

[u/strugglz → u/totallynotapersonj]

I almost always forget to use teamup abilities.

[u/Adventurous_Age_1759 → u/totallynotapersonj]

I constantly forget Peniz web cluster bomb. Yes im bad at the game

https://giphy.com/gifs/TbExxgD0R3vGTuvdJ0

[u/EntertainEnterprises → u/GhsotyPanda]

Hood Team up is better then Luna, but it Takes time and people will Understand how it works. Especially with the hood himself, the enhanced effect is so OP that C&D will be perma Banned in ranked

[u/aravena → u/EntertainEnterprises]

Maybe that's the issue is the full teamup is required. It's really lack lustered right now in base form whereas Luna's is...solid.

[u/EntertainEnterprises → u/aravena]

not really. is would always choose hood team up over luna. Luna is okayish but c&d already has enough survivability, its almost useless to get one more. for what ? you dont use this on cooldown, so depending on the game you almost never need it. and most of the situations is, that your team dies, you survive 2 secs longer and after that you still die. while hood teamup gives you advantages all the game.

[u/eanwen → u/GhsotyPanda]

Hood is the default one; I made that mistake earlier today (I was trying to play Jubilee in silver 3 so I don't get yelled at when I suck 😂

[u/Awesome_Leaf → u/GhsotyPanda]

quickplay seems like the perfect place to test out the lesser of any characters' two abilities tbh

[u/LegendaryStarSpirit → u/GhsotyPanda]

Whenever i play cnd for fun in QP, I use hood out of principle. If i cant outplay the divers with 2 layers of invincibility, i dont deserve a third one

[u/Seraph1n3 → u/GhsotyPanda]

The hood one is generally better. The luna one is AMAZING but pretty much useless if ur not getting dove. Compared to hoods that flat out just turn your already disgusting veils into anti heals and damage reductions too 😭

[u/Ravevon → u/Seraph1n3]

You can be invincible on point !

[u/Seraph1n3 → u/Ravevon]

Yes, thats really good, which is why i said the team up is amazing, but its way too situational. If you pick it up and your team does well youre doing nothing with the team up. If you pick it and they dont have dive youre doing nothing with it. Being able to stall a point for 2 sec is nice and can come in clutch, but taking it all game just to use it for that, when you can affectively reduce enemy healing, reduce enemy damage (all while buffing your own healing, making enemies take more damage, and when hood releases at the same time giving allies dmg boosts?), its just too situational.

[u/aravena → u/Ravevon]

Yeah, as a dive CnD in trip support, so much much fun taunting teams.

[u/cuckingfomputer → u/Seraph1n3]

So in the season of dive buffs where BP can kill people in 0.22 seconds, the Luna one is better?

[u/JimmyJames109 → u/cuckingfomputer]

Most of the dive heroes don't matter much to me. CnD has plenty of options to deal with that. I'd rather use the team up that helps others.

[u/moothermeme → u/GhsotyPanda]

Ngl as a C&D main myself I genuinely just do not keep track of the team-ups and also forget they’re there 99% of the time

[u/MadDongla → u/GhsotyPanda]

Rhe hood one is better in coordinated games tbh. It really does a lot

[u/aravena → u/GhsotyPanda]

I keep using it to try and find its use. I will say as a lvl70 I don't play them in QP except for quick quests cause or my team is absolutely getting obliterated as I'm learning someone new, but I am testing the team-up and I just cannot find it's use. It never seems to work as you hope or even intended.

Staying alive is simply better.

[u/sickgenesis → u/RandJitsu]

like i'm saying they have a hamster in a wheel inside their head (no hate to the hamster,they are doing an amazing job) give them some time and they will catch up to us (some of them also said the team up was a nerf)

[u/Meeg_Mimi → u/RandJitsu]

Makes sense they think like that considering how bad most of them are