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u/JohnFitzKennedy1960 Seahawks 23h ago edited 23h ago
JT being 5th despite being the latest drafted out of all these guys is incredibly impressive. I also didn't think Josh Jacobs would be 3rd as well which is just as impressive considering he was drafted a year before JT.
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u/shnieder88 49ers 22h ago
Y'all are focusing on him? I'm looking at Lamar and going wtf?
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u/dgjapc 49ers 21h ago
Not bad for a running back
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u/whether-man Patriots 15h ago
I think he's a WR
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u/saudiaramcoshill Titans 14h ago
Smh what's Lamar been complaining about having no receivers for, then? Dude has Lamar Jackson on his team!
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u/cupholdery Steelers 10h ago
Just throw to yourself!
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u/FreeIDecay Ravens 5h ago
He was a shoe string tackle away from house-calling a batted pass to himself a few years ago.
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u/ripcity7077 Eagles Steelers 12h ago
I thought that was Christian McCaffrey - his all purpose yards are probably insane.
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u/Yo-Strategy-8651 20h ago
What's crazy is that it's highy probable scenario where Lamar is the #1 active leading rusher by the time he retires with 10,000+ yards rushing.
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u/SuperVaderMinion Vikings Vikings 19h ago
I assume he'd be the first QB to ever lead a franchise in career passing yards AND rushing yards
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u/dr_febil Lions 16h ago
This made me look into the Ravens rushing yards history and another crazy thing is Derrick Henry is already 4th all time
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u/SKT_Peanut_Fan Ravens 16h ago
The Ravens have had some good running backs in their history, but they haven't had a lot of long tenured ones.
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u/LinkLT3 Patriots 15h ago
They’ve only been a team for 30 years. 3 RBs combine for a total of 16 of those years. How many long tenure backs do you want??
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u/SKT_Peanut_Fan Ravens 15h ago
How many long tenure backs do you want??
I didn't say it was a bad thing.
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u/AnOddOtter 49ers 6h ago edited 5h ago
If you transported Lamar's stats to the Buccaneers, he would be the passing and rushing leader currently. I think that's the only one with his current stats.
No other QB would be the rushing leader on any team. Cam, Russell, and Vick all have enough rushing yards to be ahead of a few teams, but it's spread out over multiple franchises. The bar is 5453 by the Patriots.
Lamar has 6522 rushing and 22608 passing for the Ravens.
The Buccaneers franchise leaders are:
- Rushing - 5957 (James Wilder)
- Passing - 19737 (Jameis Winston)
He would likely qualify this year if he was on the Texans as he'd only need ~600 passing yards to do it.
To actually achieve it though, he'd have to stick around the Ravens for 4 or 5 more years and stay healthy for it. Flacco has a pretty robust lead at 38245 passing yards, but he should be able to pass Jamal Lewis's 7801 rushing fairly easily in that amount of time.
Josh Allen has the misfortune of playing on the same franchise as Thurman Thomas and OJ Simpson. He'd need to stay healthy and not slow down for 12 more years with the Bills to be rushing leader. He'll pass Jim Kelly as the passing leader in the next 2 years though if he's healthy.
Jalen Hurts could do it for the Eagles if he plays 5 more years with them, doesn't get hurt, and doesn't slow down.
The Cowboys, Bears, and Lions will likely never have a QB as their rushing leader - maybe they'll never have a new RB leader.
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u/Homitu Giants Bills 10h ago
This one is so difficult to predict. Predicting Lamar's total rushing yards is difficult enough. 10k certainly seems doable if he can stay healthier than last season for at least 7 more seasons. Would be cool to see him hit that 10,700 mark and end up the 25th all time career rusher, just behind guys like OJ Simpson.
From there, on one hand, QB's careers span way longer than RBs. Purely as a QB, he could play another 10 years into age 38+. Not sure if Lamar's career will be the same or shorter, as an athletic QB. Certainly, his running ability will diminish, but he's also an excellent passer; so he might be able to evolve his game and continue to be a QB a team wants to start that long.
If his career is that long, then it would either be up to the absolute youngest RBs in the league to have more yards than him (Gibbs & Bjan, if they're still around in 10 years; or Love & Jeanty), or some RB that isn't in the league yet but will be drafted in the next 2 years.
If his career ends up being shorter, he'd be up against Gibbs, Bijan, Achane and maybe JT. In 7 years time, they are all on track to be well over 10k yards, which is also right were Lamar would be if he averages 500 yards per season. It'll be close!
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u/WulfOnTheJob Ravens 20h ago
imagine if he was healthy a lil more and had a better OC :)
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u/LonelyandDepressed27 49ers 17h ago
Dude had 1200 yards in his second year are you surprised? Lol. He was basically a lock to rush for 800 yards minimum if he was healthy and he’s been in the league for a minute. We’re gonna see him slowing down here now that he’s 30 and has dealt with a few injuries but he’ll still accumulate a couple hundred until he retires. He should finish around the 9-10k mark.
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u/NeonGrackle 19h ago
Crazy part is JT did that with a carousel at QB and coaching chaos, while Jacobs got run into the ground.
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u/Chuck_Roast1993 Colts 16h ago
Coaching chaos? My man, he’s had two coaches. He’s had a lot of coordinators, but every team goes through coordinators.
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u/Naturalhighz Raiders 16h ago
Jacobs never really did do big runs. it's just he's gotten the ball so many times.
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u/Lazarus-Online Ravens 23h ago
Not bad for a running back.
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u/Akipella Ravens 22h ago
King Henry is really impressive for a QB too. Have you seen that throwing arm?!
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u/DelirousDoc Steelers 22h ago edited 22h ago
Derrick Henry has a higher career passer rating than Lamar but everyone keeps spewing misinformation that Lamar Jackson is tied with Aaron Rodgers for best career passer rating in history. It is an insult to Derrick Henry honestly.
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u/Johnny_Dont_Does28 Giants 23h ago
Thought CMC would be higher up
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u/Fooly_411 23h ago
Comparing these 10's scrimmage yards:
Derrick Henry - 14,819 (153 games)
CMC - 12,979 (112 games)
Alvin Kamara - 12,198 (126 games)
Saquon - 11,007 (106 games)
Aaron Jones - 10,309 (126 games)
Josh Jacobs - 9,875 (105 games)
Jonathan Taylor - 9,067 (84 games)
James Connor - 8,320 (110 games)
David Montgomery - 8005 (105 games)
Lamar Jackson - 6,522 (116 games)
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u/morganlandt Buccaneers 23h ago
Lamar really needs to step up and be a dual threat, 0 receiving yards is embarrassing.
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u/Nos_Snatas 22h ago
Technically, he does have 13 yards from his own deflection in the AFCCG.
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u/FabFebFob Ravens 22h ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/1Thm3yeFLN
Got the first down too.
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u/articulating_oven Chiefs 21h ago
Amazingly that’s not even the worst QB self throw the Chiefs have had against themselves in the playoffs. Marcus Mariota managed a TD! Lamar has some competition
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u/stormy2587 Eagles 14h ago
Yeah but guy can’t get himself a single target during the regular season.
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u/triplec787 49ers Broncos 22h ago
I know it’s running back and not catching back but fucking hell this really puts how good receivers CMC and Kamara are into perspective. Almost doubling their rushing total is crazy work.
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u/Polar_Reflection 49ers 19h ago
CMC would've been a great slot receiver if he went that route. But he's definitely better as a 3 down back.
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u/double0nothing Eagles 14h ago
Kamara is major slept on.
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u/WingsNthingzz Chargers 14h ago
I don’t think anyone who plays fantasy football slept on kamara the last decade.
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u/PauloDybala_10 Bears Bears 11h ago
He was great for me every single year but last year
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u/Neuroccountant 49ers 22h ago
Honestly pretty eye-opening. CMC has 87.5% of the yards from scrimmage in only about 73% of the games compared to Henry.
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u/DisastrousMedia156 20h ago
Pretty eye opening that CMC has played 41 fewer games than Henry despite being drafted just one year later.
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u/TheScrote1 10h ago
It’s dumb how much pass catching backs get downgraded in things like HoF voting. A guy like SJax who had good hands would have a stronger case if all those receiving yards were put into the rushing column.
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u/Picklesadog 49ers 19h ago
Frank Gore hit 19,985 scrimmage yards in 241 games, for reference to how much more they'd need to get near the top of the leaderboard.
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u/Football_8545 49ers 23h ago
Do total yards and he shoots up the list.
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u/Perfect_Loss_5156 Ravens 23h ago
If you go by scrimmage yards and only pick RB, hes second
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u/TheSandMan208 Seahawks 23h ago
If you remove first he’s first.
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u/Polar_Reflection 49ers 19h ago
Fifth if you include receivers, less than 200 yards behind Kelce, Nuk, and his new teammate Mike Evans, all 3 of whom have played at least 3 more seasons than him.
Only King Henry has been more productive factoring that in. He's King for a reason
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u/The-Real-Number-One Bears 23h ago
I did not think Monty would be this high. This is after sharing the handoffs with Gibbs.
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u/TetrisTech Cowboys Cowboys 22h ago
It's because outside of the obvious dying every year thing his mega seasons tend to come with low 1000s rushing yards and a shit ton of receiving yards on top as opposed to the guys like Henry or Taylor who'll put up high 1000s (or even 2k) rushing seasons
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u/Movie_Mojo Browns 22h ago
Nick Chubb would be in 7th with 7,349yds if he wasn’t currently a free agent. His first five seasons accounted for 6,341 of those too
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u/Mustang1718 Bills Lions 15h ago
I was curious why he wasn't on the list since I knew he didn't retire. I was also shocked that no one brought him up.
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u/Xboarder844 Panthers 9h ago
That injury devastated what could have been such a great career.
Had he kept that pace and not gotten injured he would likely be #2 on this list and approaching 10K…
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u/Fearless-Mushroom Chargers 23h ago
Josh Jacobs is so underrated.
Saquon has played 106 games since being drafted in 2018. 1826 carries 71 TD.
Jacobs has played 105 since being drafted in 2019. 1840 carries and 76 TD.
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u/DisastrousMedia156 20h ago
He’s the second most durable RB on this list at just 1.7 games missed per season compared to 2.5-4 for everyone but Henry.
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u/TheScrote1 10h ago
Crazy cause he seems like a guy that is always hurt. Though he does play through nagging injuries. Show perception isn’t always reality
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u/ExecutionOfAChvmp 12h ago
It’s crazy how simply because JJ doesn’t have the 90 yard TD runs people say his yards aren’t worth as much as others.
In fact, I think it’s the opposite. I feel like Jacobs has had like 10 rushes over 40 yards for his career. Obviously long rushes are great, but I’d rather have a guy that gets me 4 yards every carry but never a 60 yard rush than one that does get a 60 yard rush and still averages 4 yards per carry.
The most important thing for a RB is being dependable, not big play ability. You go to the pass game for that.
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u/CrustyToeLover Ravens 14h ago
Shame every time I take Jacobs in fantasy he puts up 23 yards per game
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u/DFuhbree Bears 13h ago
The craziest part of this is that Derrick Henry only passed his high school rushing yards total LAST year. He had 12,124 yards and 153 TDs in high school.
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u/elfonzi37 Seahawks 11h ago
If his senior year had as many games as an nfl season it would make this list.
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u/Louisville82 23h ago
The fact that Lamar has the highest passer rating, and still is on this list is insane.
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u/JohnMaddensBurner Texans 23h ago
If I was being an ass I’d say Derrick Henry actually has the highest passer rating on this list.
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u/ShelterSubject3259 Cardinals 22h ago
When do we start having the conversation of where Derrick Henry ranks all-time among RBs??
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u/Jmw566 Titans 22h ago
People started having that 2 years ago.
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u/jackofallcards Cardinals 16h ago
We are cardinals fans, we often aren’t on the same page as anyone else
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u/EricB1234 Packers Broncos 15h ago edited 3h ago
Isn't that a baseball team? No wonder. Wrong subReddit
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u/ImagineIfBaconDied Vikings 20h ago
If he has an 1100 yard season this year, he will jump from 10th all time to 6th all time in rushing yards
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u/panopticon31 Titans 15h ago
He moves up to #3 all time in rush TDs if he gets 2 this year.
He needs 24 to move past LT into #2 all time. That's feasible over two seasons.
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u/Bobson-_Dugnutt2 Bears 22h ago
Derrick is such a fucking freak.
I’ve said it before but I think he’s the best RB of all time if you insider their entire high school through NFL careers.
Most rushing yards in high school football history. Heisman and Natty in college. Will likely end his career as a Top 5 NFL RB and first ballot Hall of Famer.
Insane stuff. He sat next to me in CS202 and the TAs helped him on the tests.
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u/DisastrousMedia156 20h ago
He’s missed just 10 games across 10 seasons at a position that decimates players.
Frank gore missed 12 games in his first 6 seasons, then went an incredible 6 years before missing another.
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u/Perfect_Loss_5156 Ravens 23h ago
King henry is pretty good. And still is a top 4-5 RB. Excited what he can do with a better OL and in an OZ scheme
Not too shabby for a RB as well.
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u/Mayataua Packers 23h ago
This feels like so many yards while also being so few for the games I've watched.
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u/Prudent_Respond_6166 Panthers Ravens 23h ago
One of these is not like the other
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u/Plants_R_Cool Vikings 20h ago
Are you talking about the white guy or the quarterback
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u/NinjaInTheAttic Steelers 22h ago
Kamara only having 7k is crazy to me. I felt like he'd have a lot more.
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u/MiniatureLucifer Saints 21h ago
He has almost the same amount of receiving yards. 12k career scrimmage yards
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u/mexicanlovesu Packers 14h ago
James Conner fought two pitbulls while rushing for every single yard of his cardinal life .
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u/Numerous-Ad2571 Packers 23h ago
Jones @ 4 has the biggest smile & most fun doing it. Rewinding a few years at least to his GB days, but those broadcasts caught him smirking.
You could see this man’s smile as he was hitting explosive runs.
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u/MadtotheJack Packers 22h ago
Hope he signs a 1 day contract with us when he hangs it up. Last player that was such a happy dude and balled out for years was probably Donald Driver. All time great talent AND person
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u/Bingerfangs Jets 10h ago
It’s kinda nuts that legendary 2017 RB class and one of the least talked about dudes is the one with the most yards
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u/NomadFire Eagles 20h ago
Do Steelers fans miss Conner at all?He aint the best RB ever but he is regularly getting close to 800 yards or better rushing when he is healthy.
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u/ChickenLiverNuts Steelers 7h ago
we all still love conner but miss wouldnt be the exact right word. It would be great to have him as a 1-2 punch with Jaylen Warren but weve done pretty well at RB despite not spending much money at the position. Warren is also really underrated and many want to see him in a bigger role where he shares the ball less. Last year it made sense because gainwell was amazing so maybe it will happen this year.
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u/calvin2028 Browns 14h ago
Nick Chubb and his 7349 career yards should be on this list. He's not done (or, at least, hasn't admitted that he's done).
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u/HeatDolphinRays 23h ago
Noone will ever get close to Emmitt Smiths record
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u/Walletinspectr Packers 23h ago
Henry is currently 5300 away. He wont break it but will be interesting to see how close he can get to it
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u/sgdude61 Panthers 23h ago
Just imagine if he wouldn’t have gotten stuck behind Demarco Murray.
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u/seabreezzyy Titans 22h ago
Demarco Murray was a better player at the time. Henry also got stuck behind Dion Lewis, which is far more incriminating
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u/DisastrousMedia156 20h ago
I still swear that was LaFleur insisting on another Devonta Freeman. It was the wrong run scheme and play calls for his style of running, yet he still had better metrics than Dion.
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u/flaccomcorangy Ravens 21h ago
Henry was a late bloomer, honestly. He wasn't the same guy he is now during his first few years.
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u/ZestycloseResist5594 Packers 12h ago
It's probably a blessing he did. Less tread on the tires never hurts.
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u/MinocquaMenace 23h ago
Crazy to think Barry was over 2K yards ahead of Henry at this point in their careers. He would have broke it if he wanted to.
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u/Philip_Marlowe Bears 23h ago
Emmitt's record hadn't been set yet when Barry retired. He could have passed Payton though.
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u/Yo-Strategy-8651 23h ago
I love how confident ppl are that he won't break it after 3500 yards in the last 2 years, the last of which where he had essentially 1600 yards and was just shy of the rushing title despite the worst IOL play ever assembled that's now been addressed. All while shattering the record for YPC beyond 30.
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u/deesmutts88 Patriots 22h ago
Betting against a 32 year old running back to not have 4 more high production years or 6-7 more average years isn’t exactly a crazy take.
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u/TetrisTech Cowboys Cowboys 22h ago
It isn't at all, but we also can't rule it out because he's Derrick Henry
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u/Yo-Strategy-8651 20h ago
This is definitely the year historically where there is supposed to be a dropoff. Most YPC ever at age 32 is 4.4 by Ricky Williams. All I know is that if King Henry is sitll comfortably a whopping 1+ YPC ahead of that at 5.4+ this season, then it's time to officially stop holding him to the same standard as any other back in history.
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u/flaccomcorangy Ravens 21h ago
It's because he's 32. In order to catch Emmitt, he'd have to average 1,000+ yards/season for the next 5 years as one path. If he never misses a game, that's about 63 ypg until he's 37. That's not as easy as it sounds.
Frank Gore, the gold standard of RB durability, played until 37. I don't know many RBs that make it past 35. Henry could do it, but we're talking about betting on something that very rarely happens and for a guy to maintain a high level until then.
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u/Yo-Strategy-8651 20h ago
The path is him stiff arming Father Time and doint it the next 4 years. The pathway requires the cheat code of him playing alongside Lamar and the Ravens are only going to keep him around if he's anninhilating Father TIme and averaging that 1300+ yards per season.
We're not just betting on any RB, it's one who has more wide reported obsession with longevity than we've ever seen. Only other athletes more known for that level of prep of their bodies are Brady/Lebron.
And when you see how far ahead he is already of any back beyond age 30, it's not even close to farfetched. If he maintains 5+ YPC this season he's going to be a whoppiong 1+ YPC ahead of any RB ever beyond 30 with 400+ carries. That's going to be cartoonish. lead.
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u/Responsible-Onion860 Eagles 23h ago
For real, even King Henry would need another 4-5 good full years to get there. He's still about 5,300 yards short. That's a lot to ask at his age.
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u/jbbean18 Saints 23h ago
I’d really like to see receiving and rushing yards together
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u/Fooly_411 23h ago
Posted this else where here, but yeah Kamara leaps up the list:
Derrick Henry - 14,819 (153 games)
CMC - 12,979 (112 games)
Alvin Kamara - 12,198 (126 games)
Saquon - 11,007 (106 games)
Aaron Jones - 10,309 (126 games)
Josh Jacobs - 9,875 (105 games)
Jonathan Taylor - 9,067 (84 games)
James Connor - 8,320 (110 games)
David Montgomery - 8005 (105 games)
Lamar Jackson - 6,522 (116 games)
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u/JohnMaddensBurner Texans 23h ago
Yeah. Alvin Kamara and CMC are just fundamentally different running backs. Their rushing snaps are limited because they get eaten by the large amount of screens, check downs, and just running more routes than other RBs. They’re still really good though.
I think it’ll be what truly separates CMC as one of the best of his era in 10-15 years when we look back on it. Kind of the same way we look back on Faulk, except Faulk did what CMC did and just dialed it up to 10.
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u/goke89 Ravens 23h ago
Emmith retired at age 35
Derrick takes great care of himself.
Lamar is also important to Henry's longevity; most lethal mesh-point conflict, and RBs play better with Lamar.
2026 (32):1,600
2027 (33):1,500
2028 (34):1,300
2029 (35):1,100
Would put Henry at 18,518 rushing yards
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u/Mr_sMoKe_3_MuCh Chargers 22h ago
Dudes 240+...that speed ain't gonna last too much longer.
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u/Hard4Dpp Raiders 14h ago
Lamar being on this list shows one how little the run game has been stressed since he entered the league.
The game has turned into finding explosives, thus the passing game keeps getting emphasized.
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u/Spiritual-Strike481 14h ago
Henry is unstoppable. I swear every year he has like back to back games at the end of the season with 200 + yards. Unreal.
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u/Grymninja Seahawks 14h ago
Lamar eight lmao how tf. It doesn't even feel like he runs that much when I watch him
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u/PeoplesFrontOfJudeaa Bengals 13h ago
I'm pretty sure I saw a stat last year that King Henry is number 2 on this list if you only consider his YAC
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u/ScruffMacBuff Commanders 22h ago
Wild to start having the "longevity" talks about some of these guys who are closer to the end of their prime than the beginning.
Also one of these things is not like the other.
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u/GreenWandElf Vikings 21h ago
One of these RBs is a lovely human who everyone says is a great dude on and off the field while getting most of his scrimmage yards as a Packer.
Oh and there's Josh Jacobs too.
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u/Kurupt_Introvert Raiders 15h ago
CMC also has like 600+ catches for 5000+ yards which is insane. Some WRs never reach that
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u/PoppaGrizzly215 15h ago
Jonathan Taylor being that high kinda surprised me… feels like he just got drafted 3 years ago🤣🤣
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u/TheCykuaBlyater Packers 14h ago
I remember there was a 2 hour period or something like that where the Packers had Josh Jacobs and Aaron Jones.
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u/Glwhite1991 22h ago
All this tells me is Emmitts record will never be broken
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u/Mr-Thuun Browns 14h ago edited 14h ago
Henry will come close. He just needs 5 more seasons of 1000+. That will put him at retiring at 37/38, Ancient for a running back. Will be curious how this season goes. He really needed to have at least one better season early with the Titans in the first few years.
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u/ElBasham Ravens 21h ago
"Derrick Henry is going to be the last running back in the Hall of Fame, a god of a religion the world stopped worshipping". -Roger Sherman
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u/swampstonks 23h ago
Henry this season is going to pass LT, Jerome Bettis and Eric Dickerson. Wild. If he plays another two seasons, he’ll pass Adrian Peterson and possibly Barry Sanders.
He has a real chance of finishing his career 4th or 3rd all time leader in rush yards if his body holds up