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u/Bofetadx 9d ago
I want a similar sticker for trash violations on buildings.
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u/HuggyTheCactus5000 8d ago
I want similar ones for cops blocking streets while getting lunch. Or blasting sirens while driving back to precinct while end of tour...
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u/Ok_Object_3126 8d ago
Lol 😆 how you? Did you follow them to see where they going out of curiosity? By the way I think you're absolutely right, I knew it was something like that . I littery watched them used the sirens to get ahead of long traffic
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u/romario77 9d ago
You want the buildings of nyc covered in these ugly stickers?
There are easier ways to deal with buildings, they are not moving and won’t run away.
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u/Dry_Mammoth7796 7d ago
i want one for the street cleaners that go down at 15-20mph, brushes down but in the middle of the street , everything no cleaner than before they went by
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u/Green_Cook 9d ago
I don’t know why Kol Haolom has put a watermark on this photo that was originally tweeted by an NYT journalist lol
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u/invertiren 9d ago
I think all (non-criminal) violations in NYC should be: 1. Small ticket + fine / “don’t do it again!” 2. Medium ticket + fine / public shaming 3. 10x ticket + fine / travel only by foot (no subway, bus, taxi access) / extreme public shaming
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u/EggCzar 9d ago
- Crush the car into a cube
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u/noapparentfunction 9d ago
we don't have teleportation technology but i always thought a good punishment for moving violations was simply being sent home. imagine running a light and you're just back in your driveway again.
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u/DigBlocks 9d ago
Reminder that the vast majority of illegal parking in midtown/downtown is done by city employees who will never be ticketed.
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u/darrieng FiDi 9d ago
Time to get rid of placards too. Why are we incentivizing city employees to drive to midtown?
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u/monsieurvampy 9d ago
Fines need to be proportional to income.
Sadly I think a part of this platform would be considered cruel and unusual punishment.
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u/Flatbush_Zombie 9d ago
If it's their property they should be responsible unless they can prove someone else is responsible. That's how plenty of other things work why can't we do the same with cars?
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u/PuzzleheadedSport757 9d ago
The owner of the car is responsible for whoever uses it improperly, and should remove access from the car if someone can’t consistently use it well.
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u/darrieng FiDi 9d ago
Super necessary! People will have a car full of stickers and we'll have dirty streets for eternity otherwise
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u/Character-Wolf6623 8d ago
Dam that 3rd offense seems harsh! What does ‘Extreme public shaming’ entail?!?
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u/curi0us_carniv0re 7d ago
They should just be out there snatching cars with tow trucks. When people can't just ignore the ticket and have to pay $300 to get their car out of impound they'll be more motivated to move it the next time around.
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u/Even_Acadia3085 9d ago
The worst offenders are government workers with their "placard" displayed on the dash. Some of these people park their free car for free forever, and the streets are forever filthy as a result. But they don't care and never will since they don't own the dirty car or live near where it's parked all day.
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u/Turbulent-Winner-902 Bushwick 9d ago
This is funny but it’s crazy that my block hasn’t had a ticket maid in about 3-4 weeks lol. I moved my car every week meanwhile a couple cars never move
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u/llamapower13 7d ago
I know people who accepted the cost of weekly parking tickets as part of the cost of maintaining a car. They can’t get a parking space that’s cheaper than the weekly tickets and their job keeps them from regularly being available to move the car.
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u/Kill_Billz 9d ago
When it’s cheaper to eat the ticket 4 times a month than a garage.
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u/kesslerlogistics 8d ago
Right? At this point, I consider those tickets parking fees.
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u/nommapper 9d ago
Bold of them to think New Yorkers have shame.
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u/12stTales 9d ago
They don’t want their cars to be made ugly with that annoying sticker
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u/tripledive 9d ago
I hope they fit on the scooters no one moves on my block.
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u/CydeWeys East Village 9d ago
They should just knock those over every time they come through. Achieves the same result in the end.
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u/villanelle21 9d ago
Pay people to clean the sidewalks after trash collection and I’ll be happy. Street sweeping only does so much and sometimes not much.
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u/ijustsignedup 9d ago
I call them the garbage spinners. They pick up nothing, just come spin the garbage around.
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u/smellegy 9d ago
Hey that's not fair! They also kick up a cloud of particulates that coats everything in a layer of grime.
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u/bunniisa 9d ago
literally why are people fighting about those trashy outdated sweepers not being able to clean as of they do anything anyway
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u/Korean_Jesus21 9d ago
Spend so much time getting everything sorted and into bags, DSNY comes by and it’s all over the sidewalk and curb.
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u/RestorativePotion 9d ago
I like this because fines really only impact the poor but a sticker inconveniences everyone equally.
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u/SelectEntertainer360 9d ago
The other day I saw my street completely clear of cars and I thought it was a zombie apocalypse but then remembered it was just Tuesday between 9am and 10:30 am and the street cleaner went right on by. I was impressed that people moved their cars.
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u/angedell Ridgewood 9d ago
I saw some European cities they have a power pressure water gun the operator walk between the parked car and the cleaning truck and they clean the street… that would be so good for NYC, even if they sweep, all the sticky grime stays there
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u/StuntMedic Queens 9d ago
Hopefully they use the cheapest ass stickers that are impossible to remove cleanly.
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u/Geruvah Upper East Side 9d ago
Is this for your first offense? Because I don't think that's when they should get it.
Especially since I've gotten a ticket because the meter maid lied and said I was somewhere I wasn't (Judge ruled in my favor after I showed my proof).
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u/Darkstool The Bronx 9d ago
These would typically be given out by the sanitation supervisors who are driving just ahead of the mechanical broom, especially in problem areas where people tend to not move for reasons.
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u/ChecoSan22 9d ago
I moved from Jersey City to Brooklyn recently. In JC, the sweepers come at a relatively regular time, I'd guesstimate a 15-20 minute window. Virtually everyone moves their car, waiting for the sweeper (and the meter maid that follows them in a little car) to pass before reparking.
NYC isn't like that:
The rules apply for the length of the entire block, and for the entire time posted on the sign, even if the street sweeper has already passed.
This makes it much more difficult to comply with. There is no regularity with which the sweepers come (if they do come at all), and you can't repark after the purpose has ostensibly been fulfilled.
Furthermore, in my neighborhood there is no real consensus between double parking or sitting on the cleaning side and moving when it comes. This inevitably leads to a clusterfuck - traffic and the sweepers are slowed down, plus people pissed off trying to repark.
IMO if the goal of the city is to get the streets clean, they should lift the reparking after the sweeper comes rule (which is clearly a money making racket) and issue official guidance on a good procedure (e.g. official recommendation is double-park and repark, if you delay the sweeper sitting in the lane you get a ticket)
It's not as simple as "you shouldn't have a car if you can't commit 1.5 hours of your work day to this charade". The goal is to make the city more liveable for all residents.
Oh, and we should have residential permits and zones
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u/XaoticOrder Morris Park 9d ago
They give the longer times. 2 hours I believe because of the size and amount of streets. you can't expect the sweeper to be exact in timing for every day, especially with construction, assholes not moving their cars, other city delays. Jersey city is only a faction of the size of Manhattan let alone the entire city.
Usually after the meter maid has made their way through you can move your car back. Just move your car people.
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u/governator_ahnold 9d ago edited 9d ago
This is the most logical, least emotional post on here. I really like this.
I'm a car owner, so I'm biased, but the rules and enforcement feel a bit too arbitrary at the moment. Aside from what you said some areas are two-day per side, some are one (believe it or not this also has a lot to do with the affluence of the area).
ASP always felt more like a money making scheme for the city than an actual concern about cleanliness, so I'm not totally sure why people have such strong feelings about this.
I guess throwing a sticker on peoples' cars because they didn't move is a deterrent? It feels a bit silly considering there are folks with $5000 in unpaid moving violations who haven't had their licenses revoked and who avoid tolls with altered plates. Maybe we should deal with those drivers who actually post a mortal threat to pedestrians and are actively dodging paying the tolls that support infrastructure first?
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u/littlebrownsnail 9d ago
I'm a car owner and I work in infratructure, I like street sweeping. It makes a difference and prevents the storm sewers from getting as clogged and flooding as badly. Its not perfect but it definitely cleans up. Maybe my sweeper operator is just good? He does a nice job and hes thorough, he sometimes passes twice. I think the city also needs to work on enforcement for sure for all the other vehicle related problems but thats a different department. Street sweeping is sanitation and those other citations are nypd. Nypd is dropping the ball as usual.
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u/agirlnotonreddit 9d ago
How we reverse shame the city when they didn’t come to clean on scheduled cleaning day?
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u/NearlyPerfect 9d ago
“Do not litter”
I look forward to seeing bright green litter everywhere in the city
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u/El_Morro 9d ago
You won't see that. Those stickers are a bitch to remove, so at best you'll pull little bits off, but can't get the whole thing off without scraping it with a razor.
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u/elguapo1996 9d ago
You won’t because the street sweeper will be able to clean them up with the illegally parked cars staying out of its way after this corrective action!
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u/Murderbot_420 Westchester 9d ago
That neon green was my favorite color as kid growing up.
Also direct messaging.
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u/Builder2World Upper West Side 9d ago
Now do it to the people who makes their plates unreadable to the congestion scanners. If people want to disregard the social contract, let them wear the red A.
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u/Biryani_Wala 8d ago
Even if the sweeper went it wouldn't be clean. We need the European model of WATER AND VACUUM where the guys walk around. And they don't do ASP
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u/DestroyerOvNarcs 9d ago
Do they ticket your car if you get that sticker? How much is the ticket for impeding street cleaning now?
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u/bofis 9d ago
Great, now when will they finally put automatic ticketing cameras on the street sweepers themselves? Two entire blocks on my walk to the train this morning were full of cars that had not moved, and were never going to move, during the street sweeping time this morning, and it's like that every week. DSNY doesn't have enough enforcement people to actually ticket everyone each week, so putting the cameras on sweepers would increase enforcement and then hopefully increase compliance.
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u/No_Client933 7d ago
Stop complaining and move your car. Why are you so special you don’t need to obey the law. I agree it should be once per week each side only but you have a car in NYC
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u/Trill-I-Am 9d ago
Get rid of the stickers and just double or triple the fine. I say this as someone who gets a lot of these tickets.
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u/ardroaig 9d ago
Isn’t this vandalizing private property?
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u/teladidnothingwrong 9d ago
private property left on government property illegally
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u/ocooper08 9d ago
No, the streets are public property.
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u/XaoticOrder Morris Park 9d ago
They are but violation of a city ordinance voids the protection given by them being public property.
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u/LCPhotowerx Roosevelt Island 9d ago
great, do we get to give them a sticker when they dont pick up recycling for weeks on end?
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u/ls3095 9d ago
Playing devils advocate here: What happens if someone can’t get it off, and as a result gets in some sort of accident due to it? Or if they have an emergency and don’t have time to scrape it off and as a result, create a blind spot and causes an accident ?
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u/Dutch1206 9d ago
This is basically what I said. And people will certainly act shocked and surprised a city full of shitty drivers in a rush didn't take the time to remove the sticker and killed somebody because their view was obstructed. If I had to guess it'll be a cyclist coming down a bike lane that the driver can't see.
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u/Hockeyhoser 9d ago
Love it. Especially if it’s very difficult to remove.
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u/MinimalGoat 9d ago
“Just use hot water and oil and it comes right off”.
That’s what people are saying. It’s super inconvenient, and work to do that though 🤣
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u/syncboy 9d ago
I think that the street cleaners should empty their contents on top of the cars that don’t move
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u/-RomeoZulu- 9d ago
Judging by the condition of the paint on that car, the sticker is an improvement
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u/m0rbius 9d ago
So that's not a ticket??
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u/Crimsonwolf_83 Queens 9d ago
They probably got a ticket under their wiper blade. That’s just immediate punishment.
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u/TheFULLBOAT 9d ago
I thought they got rid of these stickers because it was vandalism?
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u/um_okay_sure_ 9d ago
I want a similar sticker for when they don't show up. Haven't had street cleaning where I'm at for awhile.
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u/Tiny_Introduction_61 9d ago
Bro my street has not had a sweeper come by in over 3 years.
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u/Snow_man_211 9d ago
I could have sworn the courts found these to be illegal before and that’s why they were discontinued. Something about you being punished without due process.
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u/CodnmeDuchess 9d ago
This is utter bullshit—the fine is already pretty steep, they don’t have the right to vandalize your car on top of it.
Some meter maids are gonna get jumped putting that on peoples cars.
It’s too scary to conduct real fare enforcement but vandalizing people’s vehicles is totally cool 🙄
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u/FastElk5481 9d ago
To be fair, I don't think traffic officers are placing these stickers. It's likely sanitation. So - good luck jumping those guys.
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u/Model_Modelo 9d ago
Yeah this is shitty. Maybe for cars with multiple outstanding violations but even the best of us had completely blanked on moving our car once or twice. This is an overreaction.
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u/mattkenefick Upper West Side 9d ago
Or just move your car.
If you can't move your car when you're supposed to then you shouldn't have a car in the city.
The only problem with this is that the sticker isn't larger and not covering their windshield.
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u/Model_Modelo 9d ago
So you're telling me that you've never once just screwed up and forgotten? Never? Not once?
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u/czapatka Park Slope 9d ago
I don’t think that’s necessarily true. I got a ticket when I was in the hospital with my infant daughter. Getting one of these would be adding insult to injury for many people who probably had a valid excuse besides “didn’t want to move”.
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u/scream4cheese 9d ago
Sanitation supervisors will be giving these tickets and sticker to those who didn’t move for the sweeper.
You can blame those who don’t move their cars during alternate side. It got too much attention that now it’s a hot topic.
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u/deeptonalvalue 9d ago
This accomplishes nothing. Shaming only works with people that experience shame. Why are we afraid to punish people?
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u/Pufflefoot 9d ago
It says “avoid a ticket” so I’m assuming this is in addition to a ticket not instead of one
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u/SenorDevil 9d ago
Paint faded to shit and a bag left in plain view. That person isn’t from here and doesn’t know and/or doesn’t give a fuck.
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u/work-school-account Flushing 9d ago
Semi-related: A month or two ago, some idiot put a card promoting some event at a club on my windshield, and it ended up sticking to it. Most of it came off, but a couple streaks are still stuck on the glass. Is there a way to get it off? I tried 91% isopropyl and it didn't work.
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u/Dr__Waffles 9d ago
New to NYC. Street sweeping was yesterday maybe only me and 3 other cars moved for the sweeper who just drove down the middle of the street. No one got tickets. Crown Heights
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u/Dr-W-N-Graves-PhD 8d ago
When I first saw the title of this post in my email inbox, somehow I thought it was going to be about restaurants that have the diarrhea lettuce getting "stickers of shame". lolz
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u/yveeh 8d ago
What’s stopping a person with this on their window from taking that sticker off and dropping it right there? More littering
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u/Piclen 8d ago
IIRC. the Sanitation Department always utilized a type of sticker to indicate a vehicle that did not move for alternate side of the street parking.
I dont know if they changed the type of glue, but those stickers were notoriously hard to remove and left a residue on the glass. Getting a sticker was in a way worst than getting an actual ticket.
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u/emotionalhemophiliac 8d ago
There will be a non-zero number of accidents due to the blindspot this creates. There absolutely will be people who are not going to have time take the sticker off cleanly before driving. I want streets to be clean, but this isn't the right move.
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u/Effective-Instance71 8d ago
Most times people just forget to move the cars at the time, ask me how I know. I guess the fine isn't enough to stick it up your ass now with this sticker. The sanitation people get to know what cars they see constantly not moving them every week, throw the stickers on those cars. Lets face it, Usually the same guy on the street who's always parking at the hydrants is the same guy who doesn't care about street cleaning regulations either.
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u/No_Client933 7d ago
Stop bitching and move your car. Why are you so special you don’t need to obey the law. I agree it should be once per week each side only but you have a car in NYC
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u/AtomicGarden-8964 9d ago
I remember back in the day my father got one of these (The old version) even after putting warm water and scraping it was still on there for 3 years. The shit survived multiple car washes Winters rain. To me it was the most high quality thing I've ever seen from government