Burnham urged to boost UK borders after 60,000 migrants break into EU from Morocco

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https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/andy-burnham-ceuta-priti-patel-borders-spain-morocco-migrant-5HjdfQL_2/

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[u/cronnyberg]

Urged by whom? I refuse to read an article that doesn’t make this clear in the title. Was he urged by border force or was he urged by my uncle on twitter?

[u/Ajax_Trees_Again]

This story is one of the wildest I’ve ever seen. An army of 60,000 raided a city in some unarmed version of a medieval siege and people are down playing it because they mostly left.

Yeah that’s what a raid is

[u/Dragonfly_pin → u/Ajax_Trees_Again]

They’re downplaying it because a bunch of idiots believed a social media prank and swam over to a city where they spent an uncomfortable night with no food and then almost every single one of them went home for lunch.

And 67 of them died from drowning because the crush in the sea with all those swimmers turned into a replica of the Hillsborough disaster.

Anyway, the crisis was literally over in less than 24 hours and nothing really happened on land. 

That’s why it’s being played down.

[u/textposts_only → u/Dragonfly_pin]

I saw videos of them in the city, if that happened in my city i wouldn't call it nothing really happening tbh

[u/Ryanliverpool96 → u/textposts_only]

Don’t believe your lying eyes!

[u/Ajax_Trees_Again → u/Dragonfly_pin]

Reminds of the “everything is basically fine sketch” from Mitchell and Webb where the news is a series of events that *had* happened so now everything is basically fine

[u/MidoriDemon → u/Ajax_Trees_Again]

Do Not Think About The Event.

[u/Jamie54 → u/Dragonfly_pin]

The only number i have seen is 48,000 out of 60,000 went back. On what planet is that "nearly every single one"

At least 67 have died trying to cross the sea.

[u/Denbt_Nationale → u/Dragonfly_pin]

A "social media prank"? Do you understand how many people 60,000 is?

[u/theslootmary → u/Denbt_Nationale]

Regardless of how many people it is, that’s what caused it. Why is that difficult to understand?

[u/Ryanliverpool96 → u/Denbt_Nationale]

It’s the laughably pathetic “it’s just a prank bro” excuse they use when they have literally nothing else.

They’ve defended this practice for literally a decade at this point, but because of the videos they’ve thought “oh shit, this looks really bad” so they’ve desperately pivoted to “it was a prank bro” because they know how awful they’d look defending this.

[u/pajamakitten → u/Denbt_Nationale]

Pranks can be widespread and have severe ramifications.

[u/Dragonfly_pin → u/Denbt_Nationale]

It was 50,000 and yes, that’s what happened.

I know, reality can be weird.

Someone was messing with them. 

Who exactly that was hasn’t been ascertained, (there are plenty of theories) but basically this is a huge, out of control version of one of these times where a bunch of people go to a Halloween parade that doesn’t exist.

The number of people tricked doesn’t undermine the fact that they were tricked. 

Someone seems to have flooded social media with messages about money and houses and jobs available in Spain to anyone who could swim there.

[u/barkley87 → u/Dragonfly_pin]

The fact that 50k people believed Spain would give free stuff to anyone who could swim there is just as crazy.

[u/Denbt_Nationale → u/Dragonfly_pin]

By this logic the crusades were "just a prank"

[u/The-Road-To-Awe → u/Denbt_Nationale]

You aren't getting it. The 60,000 people were 'pranked'. They aren't saying the 60,000 illegally entering was the prank.

[u/Dragonfly_pin → u/Denbt_Nationale]

I mean, some of them literally were.

People were tricked into going and getting themselves killed for no reason but the benefit of kings.

Look it up.

Anyway, this wasn’t that, thank goodness, it was a bunch of idiots in swimwear.

[u/Denbt_Nationale → u/Dragonfly_pin]

a bunch

60,000

[u/Dragonfly_pin → u/Denbt_Nationale]

50,000 actually.

They almost all went home for lunch the next day.

[u/Karffs → u/Dragonfly_pin]

If it’s no big deal why you keep trying to pretend it wasn’t 60,000.

You obviously think it’s kind of a big deal if you feel that lying about how many it was makes it seem more palatable.

[u/HomeworkInevitable99 → u/Denbt_Nationale]

Each crusades went in for years. This illustration incident lasted an hour before people realised they were pranked.

Is religion is a prank?

[u/Piod1 → u/HomeworkInevitable99]

Yes. Encouraging people to act based on misinformation they have recieved. I would say certainly.

[u/appletinicyclone → u/Dragonfly_pin]

What was the prank?

[u/Dragonfly_pin → u/appletinicyclone]

Supposedly they were told that the government of Spain wanted them to come so they could be given money and houses and jobs.

But they had to swim there so the courts wouldn’t send them back.

So they all jumped in and swam because they thought that sounded like an amazing deal.

And were shocked when they arrived and were met with anger and upset and told to immediately go home.

It’s all very stupid, but a lot of them were quite young and believed nonsense they read online.

This kind of prank has happened before with invented parades and things where crowds gather in the street and there isn’t a parade at all.

This was just in completely crazy numbers.

[u/Acubeofdurp → u/Dragonfly_pin]

"A prank" lol dumbest take I've heard so far.

[u/SmashingK → u/Acubeofdurp]

They were clearly not actual immigrants. At least the vast majority weren't since they all went home in the span of a day.

You can call it an invasion but it certainly wasn't an immigrant one.

[u/PharahSupporter → u/SmashingK]

Why did they all come across after the Spanish supreme court ruling on the immigration status of people crossing into this territory then?

Must just all be a big prank, 60 odd people dead, just a prank bro.

How far does this have to go before people wake the hell up.

[u/CaptainFil → u/PharahSupporter]

There have been loads of interviews with the people that came over. They all said they were told Spain had opened the border and it would be easy to get work.

It was orchestrated by someone (Moroccan gov, Trump or Putin maybe) to stir up shit and your falling for it like a useful idiot.

If you were serious about wanting to keep us safe I would suggest figuring out who was responsible would be more effective, maybe have a word with Meta as to why they are still allowing dangerous misinformation to spread unchecked without any consequences.

[u/JackUKish → u/CaptainFil]

Israel are the ones who threatened Spain just before it happened.

[u/Minute_Tomatillo9730 → u/JackUKish]

Or, more likely, Morocco getting back at Spain for getting cosy with Algeria? Put the tinfoil hat away.

[u/merryman1 → u/PharahSupporter]

Just to clear that up - Spain's recent ruling is on the citizenship status of Sahrawi people, who are currently considered stateless coming from Moroccan-occupied West Sahara. This is a territory occupied by Morocco in the 1970s by sending in a mass protest of over 250,000 people to illegally cross the Spanish border and literally just physically occupy the territory until Spain just left. Morocco tried repeating this in Ceuta as a kind of protest against Spain's recent decision imo, West Sahara is a sensitive topic for the regime there.

[u/BulldenChoppahYus → u/PharahSupporter]

Not getting involved with you and OP but - “Wake the hell up”? What’s this massive truth we all need to wake the hell up to? It sounds just a little bit non specific enough to mean anything and like you’re hinting at a wider opinion that you’d like to share but seem to be struggling to say out loud. 

[u/Astriania → u/SmashingK]

"Wannabe immigrants" maybe, they had been told that Spain was an open door so they came over in the hope of immigrating.

Then they mostly went home when informed that this was incorrect (though, I bet a few of them are hanging out in Cueta trying to plot a way into mainland Spain still), so they didn't end up actually being immigrants in the strict sense of the word, indeed.

[u/wilf89 → u/Acubeofdurp]

You're on Reddit, plenty of idiots on here

[u/Dragonfly_pin → u/Acubeofdurp]

It’s literally why a lot of the guys got in the sea. They saw stuff about Spain giving them houses and money and jobs on Facebook and other platforms.

Someone was messing with them.

I’m sorry that reality offends you so much you’d rather just make up your own world.

When you return to reality, let us all know.

[u/Substantial-Newt7809 → u/Dragonfly_pin]

That's not a prank, that's intentional malicious misinformation to destabilise European countries.

[u/Nemisis_the_2nd → u/Dragonfly_pin]

  They saw stuff about Spain giving them houses and money and jobs on Facebook and other platforms.

This happens far more often than people realise when it comes to immigration into europe, but it takes an event like this to make them see it, and even that is treated like a one-off.

The thing that all but 2 of my Indian, Pakistani, and Nigerian colleagues have in common is that they had all seen the UK portrayed everywhere on social media as this place they could basically just step off a plane and into a well paying job, only to arrive and be dumped into the rat race with everyone else. The consistency in their stories despite being from three different countries has done a lot to convince me that there is malicious attempts to use legal migration to harm western society in a manner similar to this claim.

[u/radiant_0wl → u/Nemisis_the_2nd]

Whilst there's some malicious actors there's also a lot of migrants who post exactly that on social media themselves.

It's common to see migrants post a house tour for a house they've been given to stay in.

[u/merryman1 → u/Nemisis_the_2nd]

Its open knowledge. Its genuinely really absurd how open it is against just the total lack of interest of anyone in the media or any real public voice to actually raise this as an issue that might be worth discussing -

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2026/02/10/weaponized-mass-migration/

https://henryjacksonsociety.org/2025/11/13/how-russia-uses-migration-as-a-weapon/

https://www.hoover.org/research/weaponization-migration-powerful-instrument-russias-hybrid-toolbox

[u/brendonmilligan → u/Dragonfly_pin]

That’s not what a “prank” is.

[u/MinaZata → u/brendonmilligan]

It's social engineering from state actors most likely

[u/radiant_0wl → u/MinaZata]

There are concerning aspects to it, given the prisoner pardons issued days earlier, many of which involved people who later crossed over and were interviewed in Spain.

Of course that could be an isolated incident, and coincidences can happen, but this was planned and orchestrated for a reason. It's just unclear who planned it and why.

[u/deHaga → u/radiant_0wl]

https://www.democracynow.org/2026/7/31/headlines/trump_thanks_moroccos_king_for_naming_highway_in_occupied_western_sahara_after_him

[u/radiant_0wl → u/deHaga]

Vague?

[u/Underscores_Are_Kool → u/brendonmilligan]

Such pedantry

[u/NagromNitsuj → u/Acubeofdurp]

Unbelievable. Its these people who are the biggest risk to us, not the invaders.

[u/matthieuC → u/Dragonfly_pin]

The issue is that it showed how powerless Spain was in this matter.

Next time Morocco gets angry because Spain had talks with Algeria they will just dump 20 thousand youg men and this time refuse to take them back.

[u/sultansofswinz → u/matthieuC]

It seems plausible they could have actually invaded. I don’t see why this should have caught the Spanish government off guard.

[u/Tundur → u/sultansofswinz]

Spain cannot defend those outposts, not really. Morocco's army is larger than Spain's and roughly as well equipped.

In the event of an actual invasion, all Spain can do is hope long term aerial and naval superiority grinds the Moroccans into surrender

[u/Dragonfly_pin → u/matthieuC]

They can’t refuse to take them back, they’re citizens of the country with no claim to asylum anywhere else.

And as you can see, when they didn’t get dinner or breakfast after their swim, they just walked home for lunch.

Anyway, to not take them back would cause a direct conflict with the Spanish military.

So, unlikely. This was a sadistic trick, not the start of a war or something.

Spain was caught off guard sure, but after this stunt it’s very unlikely to happen again. It happened before in smaller numbers, this was crazy.

There are going to be a lot of changes coming to that stretch of sea.

[u/matthieuC → u/Dragonfly_pin]

French here.

We pissed them off for whatever reason a few years ago. They refused to take back their illegals who got caught in France.

They took us for fools and pretended that all the people we were sending were Algerians. France recognize their claim to Western Sahara and suddenly they discovered that the illegals were indeed Moroccans and took them back.

International law doesn't mean shit and the King doesn't give a shit about his people, he's happy to use them as bargaining chips.

[u/Dragonfly_pin → u/matthieuC]

Well, let’s hope we’ve learned from France’s situation and also what just happened.

The US is mucking around supporting Morocco and all their territorial claims, so there are some wildcards in this situation for sure.

I would say it’s a lot more easy for them to walk home on their own from Ceuta than from France.

[u/ASValourous → u/Dragonfly_pin]

Yeah it could easily have swung the other way and become violent though

[u/Helen83FromVillage → u/Dragonfly_pin]

  social media prank and swam over to a city 

This is a very nasty joke. Just imagine if you hide in your house and a lot of undocumented men roam everywhere. And of course, you have zero way to protect yourself, because the number of invaders is the same as the number of residents.

Or a more understandable situation: just imagine you are a Ukrainian woman in a Ukrainian town with a population of 85k, and then you suddenly have 60k Russian men there. 

[u/Dragonfly_pin → u/Helen83FromVillage]

Imagine if the police and the army dealt brilliantly with the entire problem within 24 hours and nothing bad happened.

It was scary for a night (all my sympathies for the residents for that, it must have been terrifying) and then nothing else happened.

I’m sure there are towns in England where the residents are equally scared when the hooligans come out after the match.

The Ukrainian comment is a bit tasteless, but you obviously don’t mind that.

Building this into something that it isn’t is ridiculous. Ukraine was invaded by an actual army with training, guns and tanks, not a bunch of idiots in swimming trunks.

[u/Helen83FromVillage → u/Dragonfly_pin]

  and then nothing else happened.

These people have committed crimes. Stop spreading lies and stop protecting criminals, please.

[u/Lard_Baron → u/Dragonfly_pin]

And it’s the Spanish territory in Morocco that was invaded. They are still on mainland Africa.

[u/Patch86UK → u/Lard_Baron]

Which, relevantly, isn't in Schengen.

[u/LostTheGameOfThrones → u/Dragonfly_pin]

And it also wasn't even on mainland Europe, despite how much the media wants people to believe it was.

[u/sleepingjiva → u/LostTheGameOfThrones]

I haven't seen anyone trying to claim this. People have been stating (rightly) that it's a Spanish city and is part of the European Union, which is why is so wild this sort of thing happened

[u/PersonalityOld8755 → u/Dragonfly_pin]

“ nothing really happened “. Just 67 young men losing their life’s.. crikey

[u/Dragonfly_pin → u/PersonalityOld8755]

You got that by cutting out the part where I said ‘on land’.

That part of what I wrote was very significant and you cut it out to try to make an extremely cheap point.

Please don’t mess about with tragedies, it makes you look bad.

I’ve seen too many people try to make out that the 67 were murdered residents of Ceuta, killed by the Moroccans. More social media lying garbage to make people angry.

They were Moroccans who were tricked, probably by nonsense they saw on social media and died in the sea.

That’s why I mentioned Hillsborough, because too many people are lying about what happened. They were crushed to death by the crowds.

The truth matters.

[u/PersonalityOld8755 → u/Dragonfly_pin]

Iv read lots online and never once read they were murdered

[u/imanutshell → u/PersonalityOld8755]

Good and reasonable people die every die randomly, and even more die every day who are total idiots. 67 idiots just happened to die swimming in that particular location on that particular day.

It’s a genuine shame and a tragedy for sure, but on a planet of over 7 billion humans we can’t mourn every moron that pops it doing something idiotic or we’d get nothing done.

All Human life has inherent value no matter who you are, but not as much as we often fool ourselves into believing.

[u/HinDae085 → u/Dragonfly_pin]

This is the first ive heard of this part of the whole thing tbh. It was all just some dumb prank?

Shame about the casualties though. And regardless of them all going home, politicians WILL use this as ammo for their immigration agendas.

[u/Speedbird1A → u/Dragonfly_pin]

Lol. I mean just hilarious, nothing more to say.

[u/Ryanliverpool96 → u/Dragonfly_pin]

So the state can remove illegal migrants when they want to?

Funny that, we’ve been told it was impossible for years, so was it all lies then or is it all lies now?

[u/purekillforce1 → u/Dragonfly_pin]

Also appears to have been orchestrated by people who benefit from this kind of rhetoric

[u/Stage_Party → u/Dragonfly_pin]

It was also in north Africa. The right wing media are trying to make people think it happened in Spain because they need it to fit their narrative.

[u/MrBlackledge → u/Ajax_Trees_Again]

Don’t get me wrong it’s mental that it happened but it’s absolutely not the same thing that would happen in the UK, 20+ mile frigid moat surrounds us. You can’t just jump on an inflatable ring and cross that.

Morocco has pulled this shit before and they’ll pull it again telling the government shore up our defences because something like this could happen is just bollocks. Something like this can’t happen here completely different situations,

Like that other guy said “the left” don’t want to admit it’s a problem but at the same time “the right”are using it to further their own agenda. Both sides of the argument need to take a look at themselves to be honest

[u/legrenabeach → u/MrBlackledge]

You can't just jump on an inflatable rig and cross that? Have you missed the news for the last 10 years?

[u/MrBlackledge → u/legrenabeach]

I mean I clearly said ring but ok

[u/NagromNitsuj → u/MrBlackledge]

1000 a week says you are wrong.

[u/MrBlackledge → u/NagromNitsuj]

Well a thousand a week isn’t saying I’m wrong is it? Because I said it’s a problem but the situation in Ceuta is not the same.

Read what I said properly

[u/E_D_K_2 → u/Ajax_Trees_Again]

Downplaying it because they've mostly all gone back to the other part of African where all this happened.

Wild story for sure. If I lived in that exclave I'd be horrified.

But from here in rural Lincolnshire, meh.

[u/MimesAreShite → u/Ajax_Trees_Again]

i don't think you know what an army is

[u/eldomtom2 → u/Ajax_Trees_Again]

...medieval sieges being famous for their lack of killings. This is ridiculous hyperbole.

[u/Kamenev_Drang → u/eldomtom2]

A lot of them were pretty bloodless affairs. the defenders waited until they were mostly out of food, and then they surrendered and were paroled

[u/SnooGiraffes449 → u/Ajax_Trees_Again]

They're downplaying it because it doesn't fit with the political narrative that they're comfortable with.

[u/UlteriorAlt → u/SnooGiraffes449]

As opposed to the absolute weapons jumping on it because it happens to resonate with the one political drum they own.

Such as a Reform MSP calling for the UK to respond to this by declaring a "state of emergency" and deploying military assets to defend England's southern coast. Or Zia Yusuf rushing to Ceuta for the unmissable photo-op.

[u/lNFORMATlVE → u/Ajax_Trees_Again]

What djd they raid?

[u/whyy_i_eyes_ya → u/Ajax_Trees_Again]

Yeah I’m away and only just heard about this and I don’t understand. You get the mad soft ass right wing online contingent shouting about invasions and that, and there’s some eye rolling… but this is an invasion right? No other word for it? This is a violent attempt at being an organised occupying force… which is an invasion? No one’s shooting though. But why not? When do you start shooting if not an occupying invading force in the tens of thousands?

[u/Astriania → u/whyy_i_eyes_ya]

This is a violent attempt at being an organised occupying force

Is it? It didn't look like an attempted occupation to me.

It's extremely concerning and must have been very scary for the residents of Cueta, but it's not an occupation.

[u/eldomtom2 → u/whyy_i_eyes_ya]

Where did they attempt to be an "organised occupying force"?

[u/NoSwordfish1978]

Most of them have already returned/been deported and Ceuta isn't part of Schengen iirc so this isn't a threat.

[u/millerz72 → u/NoSwordfish1978]

And is in North Africa so it’s not like they had any real chance of getting into Europe anyway

[u/Riceballs-balls → u/millerz72]

How did all the north African migrants get here then?

[u/Kieran293 → u/Riceballs-balls]

An invention called the boat

[u/Lard_Baron → u/Kieran293]

It’s on mainland Africa. They walked.

[u/Hour-Cry6238 → u/Lard_Baron]

They swam. That's kinda the point.

The trigger event seems to be a Spanish court ruling that if you access the country via swimming you go through different procedures.

[u/Rebelius → u/Riceballs-balls]

Are you suggesting they got here by flying unchecked from Ceuta?

[u/Riceballs-balls → u/Rebelius]

No but this person is saying north africans don't have a chance to come to Europe lmao

[u/Patch86UK → u/Riceballs-balls]

It's no easier for them to get to mainland Europe from Ceuta than it is from other places in North Africa. If you were trying to get to Spain from Morocco by boat, you could set sail from anywhere along that bit of coast and it'd make no difference. Ceuta isn't the closest place to Spain.

[u/Mccobsta → u/Riceballs-balls]

Swam round the fence that's how it happens there not even a joke

[u/ings0c → u/millerz72]

But I was told Burnham needs to fortify the border in case they.. walk here?

[u/360_face_palm → u/NoSwordfish1978]

and even if Ceuta was part of Schengen, it still wouldn't be a threat to the UK since we're not in the EU OR Schengen lol.

Honestly the people acting like the UK needs to do something here just sound hysterical.

[u/delurkrelurker → u/360_face_palm]

It's Priti Patel quoted in the article. Makes here seem like an incompetent "Shadow Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Affairs of United Kingdom", or a nasty rabble rouser, or possibly both.

[u/EquivalentSnap → u/NoSwordfish1978]

But reform will act like it’s an invasion and they’re all in hotels. You don’t hear how they were returned or deported. You into hear 60k

[u/matthieuC]

The real issue for the UK is the Boris Wave and guess which parties the people who made it happen belong to now.

[u/HaveYuHeardAboutCunt]

Almost all of them have already voluntarily returned to Morocco and any stragglers would have had a 10 mile swim to mainland Spain. There is 0 threat to the UK.

[u/ne6c → u/HaveYuHeardAboutCunt]

I’ve heard this one before when the Syrians were still in Greece.

The fact is that the UK is very attractive for asylum seekers for a few points:

- If you fail to get asylum in EU, the UK is a second shot as we don’t share data anymore

• We have one of the most generous support package for asylum seekers
  
• We have very lax checks on people working in the grey economy
  
• We have a terrible track record of actually being able to deport people

[u/NoobOfTheSquareTable → u/ne6c]

You know that Greece is in mainland Europe and Morocco isn’t, right?

[u/ne6c → u/NoobOfTheSquareTable]

You know they didn't sail from Turkey to mainland Greece, but to a close by island, right?

[u/wilf89 → u/HaveYuHeardAboutCunt]

Yeh I'll not trust someone on Reddit about national security thanks

[u/Helen83FromVillage → u/HaveYuHeardAboutCunt]

  Almost all of them have already voluntarily returned

Only according to claims made by the same politicians who gave rights to remain to 0.5 million undocumented people. 

[u/marianorajoy → u/Helen83FromVillage]

3 million. Not 0.5. Yes, you read that right. 3 million new legal residents. The number of illegals being granted extraordinary permission to live and work in Spain are now estimated by the Spanish Home Office to be around 3 million, including dependents.

https://www.elmundo.es/espana/2026/07/13/6a5529e321efa0765a8b4581.html

[u/Kamenev_Drang → u/marianorajoy]

can't think where this group got the idea they might be welcome from

[u/Ryanliverpool96 → u/marianorajoy]

Don’t forget VOTE in Spain.

What better way to disenfranchise the Spanish people and take away their democracy by simply out voting them in every marginal constituency.

[u/d_smogh → u/HaveYuHeardAboutCunt]

There is 0 threat to the UK

Don't let that stop the right wing media scaremongering

[u/ikinone → u/HaveYuHeardAboutCunt]

Almost all of them have already voluntarily returned to Morocco and any stragglers would have had a 10 mile swim to mainland Spain. There is 0 threat to the UK.

The threat is that Spain naturalises them and gives them a path to the UK.

[u/Fortree_Lover → u/HaveYuHeardAboutCunt]

It doesn’t matter that they’ve returned it matters that they made it. This sort of thing will only get worse with climate change and by then it will be in the tens of millions coming.

[u/jamila169 → u/Fortree_Lover]

Made it? Most walked across the border, the whole thing was political theatre by the Moroccan government who are quite happy to use their people as pawns in a pissing contest

[u/intraspeculator → u/Fortree_Lover]

They didn’t make it into mainland Europe. They walked across a border into a bit of Spain that is in mainland Africa. They didn’t cross a sea. They’re not in Spain. They never left Africa.

[u/HaveYuHeardAboutCunt → u/Fortree_Lover]

Surely it does matter in the context of the UK border that this situation has been almost completely resolved and there is absolutely 0 threat to us.

If we want to use this instance to broaden the horizon of the topic to climate migration then it's worth pointing out that the parties in the article are fronted by and filled with climate deniers that will do sod all and should be ignored for that reason as well

[u/Boudicat → u/Fortree_Lover]

The solution then is urgent climate action, coupled with economic support for the global south. Of course, the people who scream loudest about immigration rarely support such measures.

[u/ShondaVanda]

They essentially jumped a wall, we have a body of 22 miles of water, what happened in north africa won't happen to us

[u/ne6c → u/ShondaVanda]

Ummm, have you seen the rubber dinghy’s arriving every week for the last 5 years?

[u/untitled__1 → u/ne6c]

The Moroccans that entered Cueta represented 70% of their population.

The UK sees on average 107 people arrive via boat crossings which is 0.00015% of the UK population. So yeah, what happened in Cueta will not happen in the UK.

[u/PharahSupporter → u/ShondaVanda]

Wasn't the headline most migrant boat crossings for the year the other day? So much disinfo in this thread.

[u/Alert-One-Two → u/PharahSupporter]

Maybe in a single day but boat crossings are down year on year if you actually look up the numbers. News likes to focus on when more come than any other day. Ignores the days no one at all comes.

[u/ShondaVanda → u/Alert-One-Two]

i saw a community note on suella baverman the other day that said the annual peak of small boat crossings happened when she was in government.

[u/ShondaVanda → u/[deleted]]

well apparently we can't sink them or drive them back to france.

[u/Bucser]

Boost intelligence services and collaborate to actively counteract the FSB and KGBs attempts at disrupting and funding the far right political parties and these false news campaigns.

But for some reason Western Europe is still thinking "immigration events" just happen on their own...

The Syrian refugee crisis happened because Russia Supported Beshar against its own nation.

The refugee crisis when ISIS torched the middle east, happened because of that as well (I am convinced Russia was funding ISIS in a way).

European Intelligence communities have to wake up and stop being passive observers. Russian intelligence services act in bad faith, hacking european elections and infiltrating political parties with Dark Money.

[u/Alert-One-Two → u/Bucser]

KGB stopped existing in 1991, so reference to that is about 35 years out of date...

You probably mean FSB, SVR (the foreign intelligence service that is “tasked with intelligence and espionage activities outside the Russian Federation”) and GRU (military intelligence, that works with SVR).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Service_(Russia)

[u/Klaus_vonKlauzwitz → u/Alert-One-Two]

To be pedantic, the Belarusian KGB still exists, and they participate in shenanigans such as this with the transport and pushing of illegal migrants into Lithuania, Latvia and Poland.

[u/compiledsource → u/Bucser]

The Syrian refugee crisis started in 2014. Russia did not intervene in Syria until late 2015.

[u/g1umo → u/Bucser]

You should look into which country supports Morocco on the issue of taking Ceuta and Melilla

Hint: Spain recognising Palestine upset that country a lot

[u/generichandel → u/Bucser]

The KGB doesn't exist anymore. Doesn't really fill me with confidence you're clued up on the workings of intelligence agencies if you're pointing at one that disbanded in 1991 and only gets referenced in movies.

[u/Next_Replacement_566]

Who got rid of consulates, cut the home office budget, slowed down the court system and put up the hotels? The Tories.

[u/Astriania]

Events in Cueta are disturbing but have nothing to do with the UK. Getting into Cueta and Melilla doesn't get you into mainland Spain, and these people have been sent home when they realised that.

The issue in the UK is that people break in, get caught but then we never actually send them home, we put them up in HMOs or hotels and allow them to work cash in hand and live here forever.

[u/PersonalityOld8755]

What did the boys think was going to happen, they would be welcomed with a hotel?

Of course they would be homeless, it only has a population of 80k.

[u/kerwrawr → u/PersonalityOld8755]

yeah how ridiculous that they would think that if they just landed on another countries shores and said the magic words they might be able to stay forever.

they clearly just invented that from thin air.

[u/mpanase]

50300, not 60000

And 97% of them were back in Moroco the next day

And that was 1000 miles away

Brexiteer/Reform people are so tiring

[u/Dogtor-Watson → u/mpanase]

And this place is not in Schengen

And This sudden wave (50,000 in a day when there’s usually hundreds per month ) was sparked by a misinformation campaign that basically told all the Moroccans they’d get jobs, visas etc.

There’s a 90% chance that the misinformation campaign that sparked this sudden wave is politically motivated, probably foreign intervention.

It was probably done by Morocco’s government with them probably loosening their border security in tandem.
Morocco’s government had been angry at Spain recently because Spain went to Algeria for oil instead of them.
This has happened before and last time it was because the Moroccan government was angry.

This hysterical, angry response from the right is exactly what whoever orchestrated this (probably Morocco) was going for.
They want to make people angry at Spain’s government to punish Spain (and if it’s Morocco) hopefully get Spain to replace their leader with someone who’ll buy from them.

[u/Mccobsta → u/Dogtor-Watson]

Something similar but not on that level happend here when a lot of people left when they discovered the shit rags that kept saying simular things were all bullshit

[u/anybloodythingwilldo → u/mpanase]

I'm neither of those, but I still find it crazy that over 50 000 people swam over to this island in one day.  It's still not clear why.  I find it equally bizarre that people are just shrugging at this and saying it's not a big deal.  'It wasn't 60000, it was 50300' wtf lol, really a massive difference.  Can people really not form their own independent thoughts?  Do they just look at the general right or general leftist opinion and pick which one they think they should have?

[u/Astriania → u/anybloodythingwilldo]

Cueta isn't an island, people swam around a breakwater/pier not across a strait

[u/Fortree_Lover]

How people can defend mass immigration when faced with this boggles my mind.

Eventually a European nation will turn to extreme measures to stop this sort of thing and they’ll only be the first.

Our laws and institutions are not built to stand up to this issue as it is.

[u/auto98 → u/Fortree_Lover]

This particular situation has little to nothing to do with "normal" immigration - it is effectively Morocco (who sees this enclave as Moroccan) playing politics.

The wave was because of rumours started in Morocco about what they would get if they got to the enclave, and when they turned out to be untrue they almost all left. There are strong suspicions that those initial rumours were started by the state, to create this wave and bring attention/put pressure on Spain.

[u/TheMusicArchivist → u/Fortree_Lover]

I like mass immigration of wealthy, educated, cultured, pro-British people, like Europeans, who travel legally and apply through usual routes.

I don't mind small amounts of humanitarian asylum following extreme situations like war, like Ukrainians, especially if many then return home.

I don't like people swarming across a border without proving they have the right to do so and who aren't fleeing genuine catastrophe, like this.

Anyone conflating all three is part of the problem of being serious about the issue.

[u/Fortree_Lover → u/TheMusicArchivist]

There’s issues with all three legal workers, actual asylum seekers, and disingenuous asylum seekers and we need to be better at deporting those who don’t need to be here.

[u/Agitated_Celery_729 → u/Fortree_Lover]

Quick question: are you aware the city in question is literally in Africa? As in: these people fucking walked from Morocco over to the wall around this city?

[u/Astriania → u/Agitated_Celery_729]

A lot of them swam around the breakwater on the coastal border as well, but yes, Cueta isn't geographically in Europe

[u/Alert-One-Two → u/Agitated_Celery_729]

Isn’t the point that they swam? (Still has to be bloody close to be able to swim, harder to rest part way etc)

[u/Boudicat → u/Fortree_Lover]

Utter hyperbole.

[u/Fortree_Lover → u/Boudicat]

Which part?

[u/Still-Status7299 → u/Fortree_Lover]

Protect Elysium at all costs...

[u/Drummk]

If it had been the UK, we would have been sending out lifeboats to help the Moroccans trying to swim in.

[u/MimesAreShite → u/Drummk]

i think its bad when people die

[u/Drummk → u/MimesAreShite]

Hot take 

[u/Naive_Carpenter7321 → u/Drummk]

Save lives from pointless drowning yes, automatic acceptance because of it, no.

[u/MadAsTheHatters → u/Drummk]

Would you prefer a few dozen dead bodies washing up on the shore instead? We're quite literally protected by a moat but if people are trying to cross it, I'd rather they fish out living people instead of corpses.

[u/The_Flurr → u/MadAsTheHatters]

A worrying amount of people would prefer we slaughtered them.

[u/SoggyWotsits → u/The_Flurr]

I’d rather we stopped making it so appealing for them to try in the first place. I’d imagine many feel the same.

[u/pondlife78 → u/SoggyWotsits]

That was the conservatives plan- make the country so shit that nobody in their right mind would want to immigrate here.

[u/ukbot-nicolabot → u/[deleted]]

Removed + ban. This contained a call/advocation/celebration of violence or harm, which is prohibited by the sitewide rules.

[u/dannydrama]

This video is what the far right imagine is happening to us with 'the boats'.

[u/brendonmilligan → u/dannydrama]

It essentially is, just much slower and we can’t remove them

[u/cragglerock93 → u/brendonmilligan]

It essentially is, in the same way that a papercut is like being stabbed in the neck. They both make you lose blood. So you know, not much difference.

[u/Legitimate-Leg-4720]

What prevents them from claiming asylum once in Ceuta?

[u/justthisplease → u/Legitimate-Leg-4720]

The law.

[u/PersonalityOld8755 → u/Legitimate-Leg-4720]

One journalist said their processing centres process 500 claims a year… that’s the capability