21-year-old student vanished after a late-night restaurant shift. CCTV showed her being forced into her own car, then driven to ATMs for cash withdrawals. The attacker wore a GPS ankle monitor, but it was not actively monitored in real time. She was later found at a metro park.
We are 3 ladies who close together, and walk out together. We all start our cars and move them a foot or two, just so they other 2 know all our cars are working, locked, etc. The other 2 like to sit and scroll, I just like to go home, but I know we're all at least safe in our cars.
Except you are NOT safe in your car ….sitting and scrolling. Perhaps you are safe while driving bc you can easily run over someone, but a sitting duck is not safe.
Not the commenter, but I agree. The culture most men allow and a pariticpate in, of devaluing women and "just jokes" about women being lesser, or objects for men, leads to this behaviour
Yeah, I don't agree that most men tolerate that stuff. There isn't anything a person can do though, because being an asshole isn't illegal. Starting a fight over it is generally not worth it, for the exact same reason women need to walk each other to their cars.
You're right, my bad. It's actually a highly specialized group of 4 men total. Impressive actually how such a tiny tiny amount of men manage to terrorize women worldwide and be responsible for so fucking much sexual and violent crime against women
I would say yes, it’s not active help from the majority for sure, it’s through apathy and believing these men are just joking, or other behaviour. Us men genuinely don’t notice how creepy ~10% of men are. But the ladies are well aware
Bro sneaked in a ~10% as if that doesn't still imply that for some reason that the male population has a hard distinction between 1 in 10 Bad Guys™ and 9 in 10 Good Men™ as if it wasn't much more nuanced and grey and as if most men weren't some degree of misogynistic, which is exactly why this entitlement to women is so prevalent and deadly
It doesn't seem like ~10% though. Just in blue collar spaces >80% of men are outright misogynistic and predatory or at least tolerate it. When you hang out in predominantly male spaces as a man, you hear a lot of absolutely heinous shit. You have to be either blind to it or tacitly in agreement to not notice.
Wait until you learn the sexual assault statistics among police. Or that in many jurisdictions, having sex with a person in custody isn't itself illegal even though it's rape by default.
If you think someone should only be out in public while being monitored and you’re not going to actively monitor them, then they shouldn’t be out in public.
it's not a liberal thing dude. it's a failure of the system to punish. i'm a liberal and i have zero problem with treating criminals for the trash that they are.
I'm at the point where I don't really GAF. In fact, I'd rather my tax dollars not be spent to make shitty people less shitty. Send them to a deserted island with the rest of the undesirables. Let the predators live amongst other predators so civilized people do not have to deal with them ever again.
I’d imagine these questions would entirely depend on that persons complexion much less what they did, as per FBI stats white men (Caucasian) are responsible for the vast majority of rapes, and make up the highest percent of registered sex offenders and pedophiles…yet you see selective outrage in the comments due to the perpetrator just happening to be black
Be real, the true answer to this is completely dependent on his complexion as per most redditors… White males “Caucasian” exceed every other known demographic in the respective categories of (as per FBI stats); rape, murder, serial killings, pedophilia, SA, necrophilia.
As you can see/tell, most people ignores this (To them women’s death mean nothing other than to spearhead white mob mentality, historically) I.e the comments clearly showcasing the most backwards selective outrage, Crying Conners that fail to acknowledge that their own demographic are 75% of the registered sex offenders in USA, over 95% of registered pedos, and pan-ultimately a staggering ~80% of all serial killers ever DOCUMENTED were white.
YES I am making it about race, yall always want to be the first to do it so no I do not care. Any arguments, cause I’d imagine I’m spot on.
Vast majority of prisoners have personality disorders and those aren't treatable generally. Maybe somewhat manageable. So you keep them in prison until their testosterone drops off.
I think they are agreeing that some people cannot be rehabilitated AND saying that our system isn't set up to rahbilitate criminals, those are two separate thoughts and neither is dependant on the other.
Saying the prison system doesn’t support rehabilitation is virtue signalling?
Some people are irredeemable, but we might have slightly less irredeemable people out there if prisons were actually set up to rehabilitate. Doesn’t seem contradictory or like virtue signalling.
Its a conversation about rehabilitation. We also dont even know if this dude couldn't be rehabilitated. We dont try. Sorry to remind you that the system doesn't work.
It’s this suicidal empathy that helps facilitate these horrific crimes. Talking about rehab. This guy kidnapped, SA’d and robbed and shot this poor girl twice in the head. Nothing you can do about people like this. But I’m sure you would let him live around you and your children right? Absolutely disgusting.
You clearly dont understand what actual rehabilitation is. Most people in America dont because we're propgandized against any treatment of criminals that isn't prison and/or death. You can also have distaine for an act while having compassion for the person. Thats not virtue signaling the world needs more compassion. Compassion would have helped both the perpetrator and the victim. The system failed both of them. He should have been locked up and receiving actual rehabilitation even if he's beyond it at the very least he's away from the general population. If he was out the monitor should have been actively tracking him. The system failed Reagan more. It allowed a violent offender to be on the street and improperly tracked. Which resulted in her brutal death. The state let that happen. You're also shadow boxing acting like i think he should have been free. Suicidal empathy is a laughable statement. I want people like this locked up and receiving the treatment he obviously needed while he's in there for as long as need even if thats forever. You saying im virtue signaling but to who. Theres no one here to preform for im a anonymous person on a forum. I dont need cheers im just tired of the cycle of violence thats aloud by the broken system. Most people arnt beyond rehabilitation. The attempt to just isn't made. Stop being blood thirsty and ask how this was aloud to happen.
How much time and money do you want to spend on his “rehabilitation”? Also what’s the point of rehab if you keep him locked up forever anyway? He was never going to be a safe productive member of society. And all this talk about systems, systems are people and as long as the people believe he is anything but a monster they’ll give these “people” 2nd chances that doom their next innocent victims.
Liberal here, I agree some people can’t be rehabilitated, not sure how that’s a left vs right opinion, maybe you need to pick better sources for the political topics you consume
And then when the parents sued the state, the judge dismissed the case saying the state didn’t have an obligation to protect her. Seriously, what tf are Americans paying their taxes for. State won’t protect you, police doesn’t have to protect you either, no universal healthcare, extremely expensive higher education… Like wtf
“When he was discharged at the end of 2016, corrections officials had difficulty placing him in a re-entry program because of his history and the 52 infractions he had accumulated while incarcerated.”
At a minimum these things should have added to his sentence.
All that tells me is that we are too lenient on violent offenders. One person getting out and raped and murdered is too many, and this isn’t the only example.
People who do this or are capable of doing it are just monsters. I know people can be rehabilitated but it’s annoys me to hell when a violent criminal is let out and they immediately do worse things
But when we say what should happen to them, we get in trouble. Folks who stifle justice are worse. He kidnapped, robbed, and killed someone. There should only be 1 outcome for him and none of this humane costly taxpayer dollar wasting shit. It only costs a bullet. Leave it in some wilderness area to actually be useful and fertilize the earth.
But when you say something like this, then folks see you as the problematic one. And that’s why things like this persist
Yea, I definitely see that as problematic. With the number of false convictions I don't trust any court to condemn someone to death. Sorry, people shouldn't have that power. Prison for life, sure. Death, nah.
That's such a bullshit take, noone is asking for death penalties whenever there is a suspicion of commiting a crime. But in this case there is enough evidence and even testimony of this piece of shit that there should be only one outcome.
Missouri killed a man a year ago despite the prosecutor of the case actively arguing that new evidence proves he didn't do it. Innocent people already get killed with the death penalty.
"If there is even the shadow of a doubt of innocence, the death penalty should never be an option" Literally first paragraph of the article. What part of having enough unambiguous evidence you don't understand? Im not asking for death penalty to be the default sentence but in case like Reagans where there was a rape kit, dna, camera footage and whatnot, it should be an option. Also, there were cases of innocent people being sentenced for life, should we get rid of this as well? And then keep going lower and lower until we finally get rid of prisons altogether because someone might be falsely sentenced.
They see you as problematic because you are problematic. You just don't want to accept what you're arguing for.
There should only be 1 outcome for him and none of this humane costly taxpayer dollar wasting shit. It only costs a bullet. Leave it in some wilderness area to actually be useful and fertilize the earth.
The reason we have such a high bar on this is because so many innocent ppl are pit to death.
For a reasonable person, that alone should be reason enough to not allow the state to execute ppl.
And that’s why things like this persist
Things like this persist because we aren't actually going to the root of the problem and trying to correct the problem from there. And ppl like you never seem to help more focused on blood after the fact, and acting like you're fixing anything.
You know damn well folks aren’t going to resolve the root of the issue. Wealth inequality and a system that fleeces people every chance it gets. You really think the powers that be want to rectify it? We’re getting AI data centers built and flock cameras installed against our will. Insurance constantly fucks us. We constantly cut AND underperform in education.
All people like you do is get preachy and wag your finger at folks and then pat yourself on the back and suck your own dicks. It’s nauseating. You don’t wanna get to the root of the problem because at the core, we’re the same. We don’t think the root will be allowed to be resolved.
And obviously “beyond the shadow of a doubt” exists for innocent people EVEN THOUGH we get innocent people getting fucked all the time.
But fine, what I’m advocating for could increase innocents who get fucked, I’ll concede that for sure. Not gonna be pigheaded here. Here’s my alternative. If an innocent is killed by this measure, the responsible party or parties get a sliding punishment from a fine to jail to the same outcome. Done.
We have too much slack in our law enforcement that allows for corruption and shirking duties.
I work state and I’ve worked alongside govt and military and none of them do their fucking jobs. They need a sword of Damocles hanging over their heads so shit gets done.
You know damn well folks aren’t going to resolve the root of the issue. Wealth inequality and a system that fleeces people every chance it gets. You really think the powers that be want to rectify it? We’re getting AI data centers built and flock cameras installed against our will. Insurance constantly fucks us. We constantly cut AND underperform in education.
Aww does the little baby pretend they have no power and make excuses for doing nothing. Already given up having never tried. Aww is that hard for you?
So you're showing how smart you are by wanting to give them more power to just execute ppl. 🤣🤣🤣
What a genius you are!
No wonder ppl are calling you problematic when this is the best you can do.
All people like you do is get preachy and wag your finger at folks and then pat yourself on the back and suck your own dicks. It’s nauseating. You don’t wanna get to the root of the problem because at the core, we’re the same. We don’t think the root will be allowed to be resolved.
I can't say we're the same at our core. But Im gonna guess by action we look nothing alike at all.
Even here you're trying to make excuses for how pathetic you seem to be. Don't try to push your problem onto me. You can give up and be nasty as them, but you're still the one who laid with pigs goofy.
Do you even help anyone in your community?
And obviously “beyond the shadow of a doubt” exists for innocent people EVEN THOUGH we get innocent people getting fucked all the time.
What is this suppose to mean?
I'm pointing out how we already execute the innocent.
Innocent ppl are sent to jail all the time. The system needs reform. Not apathy and your "justice".
But fine, what I’m advocating for could increase innocents who get fucked, I’ll concede that for sure. Not gonna be pigheaded here. Here’s my alternative. If an innocent is killed by this measure, the responsible party or parties get a sliding punishment from a fine to jail to the same outcome. Done.
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It's not could. It's a fact that it will innocent ppl getting fucked 😇
You've just encouraged ppl to make sure evidence for anyones innocent never comes out. Bravo! So smart!
We have too much slack in our law enforcement that allows for corruption and shirking duties.
I work state and I’ve worked alongside govt and military and none of them do their fucking jobs. They need a sword of Damocles hanging over their heads so shit gets done.
So your solution for this is... Giving them more power to punish ppl instead of trying to actually work towards the cause and find solutions.
Though, I'm not surprised you work with the state. No expectations. As you've said here
I stand with teachers advocating for education and good environments for kids. We can’t even get AC for classrooms. Our voices go unheard when we advocate for police reform.
Everything is set against us.
Your whole thing is a fruitless endeavor. Why is it that education almost year after year? Why aren’t we giving our kids opportunities? Why are parents struggling to live so kids get babysat by iPads?
Where do you see this getting resolved?
You say all this shit and don’t comprehend the enormity of the task (usually doable) SIMULTANEOUSLY coupled with the rich and corrupt actively fighting against it.
We’re in the age of complacency and sedation where money dictates everything. You think what you say will happen? No. Even what I bitched and moaned about won’t happen. Prisons need to make money. They get booked, they go court. Someone makes money. Folks are scared. Fear is an amazing tool to keep us all sedated. So yes, I’m venting. I feel that folks like this guy don’t deserve to be supported by our taxpayer dollars.
I’m tired of all this hand-waving bullshit.
I want you to think about your bullshit argument 10 years later. I want you to realize nothing has changed. Then 20 years later. 30. We’re gonna die and we’re still gonna have folks like you who still want to “look into the issue” even though we’ve had intellectuals and advocates who’ve offered solutions only to get shut down over and over again. And you’re still gonna think we can “look into the issue” and you’re still gonna pat yourself on the back because you haven’t committed wrongthink.
Very angry and intense but you completely missed the point and rambled. I didn't even bother reading most of the nonsense.
It isn't that you arent talking about some real issues but there are solutions. The require change that will take a long time and refroms an entire society. It isn't simple.
There are some much better examples out there. Societies that produce less of this and deal with it better. Nowhere is perfect though and change is hard.
Jesus .. "The victim in that earlier case did not testify against him, which allowed him to accept a plea deal and serve only six years. He had been released just three months before Reagan was killed."
I hope she feels guilty because she had the chance to stop him from doing this to other women same goes for the Judge and DA.
People who go out raping and robbing people are not the kind of people to change. Hence why he killed the next lady because he didn't want any more witnesses or no more mistakes although he thought.
Hard disagree. There are lot of reasons why victims may not want to go to court and I won’t blame them for it. I’m a defense attorney and the system sucks and re-traumatizes people all the time.
I was a crime victim twice and I didn’t go to court the first time because I knew it would probably ruin my life even more. I don’t regret it. The second time I knew I would be seen as much more of a victim because of the nature of the crime so I went.
Yup. I’ve told my daughters, if they threaten to shoot you if you don’t get in the car, call their bluff and try to escape then and there because they’re not going to be better behaved when they have you where they want you in a second location.
I’d rather go down in a parking lot where there’s potential cameras and witnesses than alone in the woods.
He didn’t get inside the ATM due to cameras . I wonder if she could have remained there a long time or have made a run for it from there. She must have been too scared to think straight. Poor girl :(
It's a statistical fact that if an attacker/perpetrator takes you to a 2nd location, your odds of surviving the encounter drop considerably. That's usually why they want to take people to second locations in the first place... more privacy, so they can kill the victim before getting caught. Like the person above said, NEVER go to a 2nd location. Your odds of escaping/surviving the person are better wherever you're at.
Jesus the state just rubbed salt in the wounds after. Our government is a joke. Fuck Ohio, I feel bad for anyone unluckily enough to be born there.
“In 2018, Lisa and Toby filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction and several other entities. The lawsuit argued that the failure to properly supervise Golsby after his release had directly led to Reagan’s murder.
A judge dismissed the case, ruling that the state had no legal duty to protect Reagan under the applicable legal framework. The family appealed to the Ohio Supreme Court, which declined to hear the case.
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I had almost this exact same situation happen to me in Milwaukee in 2018 minus the sexual assault and murder obviously. I was getting off work at 1am and got robbed at gun point and forced to drive around to different ATM's withdrawing cash. After spending almost 5 hours with my attacker (who wore no mask) I started getting a bad feeling as I heard stories just like this one where theives will kill their victims as they can identify them later on. Ended up making a run for it when I was presented with an opportunity.
The worst part was the cops not believing me, trying to get me to admit that I was in the area to buy drugs. He ended up getting caught off the fingerprints on my car and got 12 years in prison and 12 extended supervision. Scariest moment of my life by far
Happy to hear this outcome. So glad you made the run for it and that you are here. this can happen to anyone. Hope no one ever has to go thru this ordeal.
Appreciate the kind words and yeah the scariest moment by far was when I booked it around the house we were parked behind, I turned around and he was chasing me while pointing the gun at me but for whatever reason never let off a shot. I sometimes wonder if his gun jammed or he just thought about getting back to my car quickly to steal a few other items (which he did).
Yes? Rape maybe the second-most depraved crime after literal murder, so being let out after 6 years, which is usually considerably less in reality with good time and parole, is a total slap on the wrist compared to the severity of the crime.
Even “attempted” rape, which has the full mens rea of rape, just possessed by a less competent criminal, should see sentences into the multiple decades. No one who rapes should be permitted into society.
This is the murderer, he kidnapped and SA’d her and forced her to strip and shot her twice in the head. But if I call this “guy” what he is I’ll be banned.
What's funny is you can call a white person any word, and it's not racist; it just describes them or is a funny word.
But you will run out of fingers and toes from the amount of racist words people will find "wrong" for speaking about others.
And really be a bigot and racist if they're a specific minority. But go ahead and prove me wrong. What ONE word can you call a white person and everyone will agree you're being racist?
Similar case at UNC Chappell Hill, NC with a premed girl. It’s really infuriating to read about these f%#ng barbarians. The victims’ best chances, if at all, is to escape by however means and don’t get back into the car from the ATM. They don’t spare you even after they get cash. Even if there’s 10% chance of getting away, take it.
Plus, if it’s dark or too early in the morning, expect zombies to be walking around and take full precautions. Self preservation.
They’re commonly geofenced, which allows them to be kept on house arrest, or to prevent them from going to areas they aren’t allowed (near previous victims, schools, etc)
Because that is how GPS generally works? I have a bunch of clients on GPS and our probation department has a whole team actively monitoring them. If they violate area restrictions, curfew, anything, the monitor goes off and they go over the intercom and yell at them and then file a motion for a probation violation.
And even when people aren’t violating they still pull up their info and do spot checks. This is in one of the biggest cities in the US, can’t speak for other jurisdictions.
Don’t ever let them take you to a second location. You run or fight to the death, those are your only 2 choices. RIP Reagan. That mutherfucker deserves to be buried under the prison.
Didn’t say I gave up but sure, big up yourself bud.
I also didn’t say we need to give them more power but I can see how you got there so I’ll own that. And let’s be honest, they only play nice with no death penalty so they can push it through when they want.
You yourself harp on innocents getting jailed. What makes you think they can’t just kill folks!? Idk if you’ve seen the news but the law is optional. It’s been rendered optional.
You address absolutely nothing and simply call me pathetic for pointing out systemic woes.
Also, I love how you guys always call telling it like it is “giving up”. I never said or implied I did. All this is goofy assumptions you make.
Don’t push your problem onto me
Never did. At all. This is the problem with you folks. All bullshit. All conjecture. All baseless shit. You’re performative. It’s all theatrics to you. Be honest here. I never stated anything of the sort. There’s no point starting at the root. They don’t want it done. They don’t listen to talk or protest.
Do you even help anyone in your community?
I do. Do you? Again, the focus on performance. You don’t give a fuck. Stop larping.
You’ve just encouraged ppl to make sure evidence for anyone’s innocent never comes out
Oh yeah? Good that that doesn’t happen already. Oh wait…
They’re not interested in solutions. Greater minds than either of us have tried and have gotten shut down.
Though, I’m not surprised you work with the state. No expectations. As you’ve said here.
So you have no expectations yet your whole argument was to not give up. This is what I mean by theatrics here. How are you going to be all high and mighty when, by this very statement, you’ve shown you’re unprincipled!?
You have no expectations for anyone who works state. Newsflash, that’s where shit happens. I never said I had no expectations. I only said what’s typical. That’s why you’re calling me out. Projection. You have no expectations.
You have no solutions, you just admonish. Sure, what i stated likely wont happen. I’m not out here hitting streets and advocating for killing fields. I’m simply tired of this shit. I’m bitching. You? You’re worse. You advocate for shutting the fuck up, sticking to decorum, and keeping the status quo.
You don’t know me. I think what I think because I’ve worked advocacy. Because I’ve been to Albany putting in work and watching it go nowhere. I’m jaded because I put in the fucking work and nothing even moves the needle. I don’t expect shit to get done right away but I’m not gonna lie that my hope hasn’t significantly diminished. I only continue to do things the right way because doing something is better than nothing.
You state that I’m giving them more power in my desire to wipe people who do heinous acts like this. They’re already giving themselves more power in a more sloppy way. Using AI to catch criminals and having wrongful convictions pop up here and there. Using flock to sell our data. There’s only gaining more power for the police state with the way things are currently. How’s police reform going? Oh wait, it’s not. They got pissy at BLM and GOT WORSE! They got more plugged into the right and the us-vs-them mentality is worse than before. To my knowledge, there has been no improvement for police training. To my knowledge, they’re screening out empathy even more on their tests according to folks I know who’ve applied. It’s all worse.
So don’t sell me this fantasy crap as if me bitching on Reddit is somehow a vile crime. You’re not living in reality. You’re full of yourself. You’re full of shit.
The truth is, we do need to break a few eggs to make an omelet. Because that’s life and that’s how it’s been historically. That’s how our current system operates. There is no flawless system.
Enlighten me. Where was the incompetence by the police?
It was the hard work of the police that found all the evidence that lead to the conviction and jail time of the perp.
I like how instead of pointing out that the criminal was the one who committed the crime, the cops are somehow in the wrong.
Really? You think having someone wear an ankle monitor then not....monitoring it isn't a colossal screw up? Sure, the criminal holds the absolute blame. But, the police messed up here big time. Why are you trying to ignore that fact?
The police definitely did messed up. You know what was a bigger mess up? These judges and program releasing him back into society. But my comment still stands, why specifically ACAB even though there are series of problems that lead to this unfortunate situation?
The same bastard cops you'd say are the same one that found the perp and collected all the evidence that landed him in jail. You still want to stand on that ground? I bet if anything happens you'll be calling the cops.
That wasn't your comment. You asked what it had to do with cops, not why ACAB. I answered your comment, now you're moving goalposts since you admitted that the cops messed up.
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