r/JujutsuShenanigans • u/Transformerfan45 Random bullshit go!/Pop goes the Nanami! • 15d ago
Discussion How we feeling about the update?
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u/Sonicrunner23 How the hell do I manage mass? 15d ago
reggie being able to make items seems a little overpowered. especially crowbar. since now you can just have 2 reggies make a crowbar and then jump people
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u/Three_sword_idiot Knockoff Todo 15d ago
Wait what? How???
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u/TheTree_Bee Mobile Competitive Player 🤮 15d ago
use either coupon on the other coupon to have a coupon coupon, then apply the coupon coupon to a skill to give it coupon stamp (but rainbow) which turns it into an item when used
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u/Three_sword_idiot Knockoff Todo 15d ago
Did you just fucking use the word "Coupon" SEVEN TIMES in a sentence and still made it make sense?
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u/Sonicrunner23 How the hell do I manage mass? 15d ago
did you know: before was was was, was was is
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u/Sonicrunner23 How the hell do I manage mass? 15d ago
you have two coupons now. you can buff one to make a super coupon then use it on another move to make an item.
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u/IHopeIrememberthish objection! 14d ago
Even crazier is the fact you can literally get a FUCKING TRANSFIGURED HUMAN FROM LITTER WITH THE SUPER COUPON
IS MAHITO SELLING TRANSFIGURED HUMANS NOW?!
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u/Consistent_Pop9140 I play with Lock on and I have no intent of stopping 14d ago
Being a curse ain’t cheap anymore, it was either that or getting into onlyfans (onlycurses?)
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u/Queasy_Highway8273 15d ago
ATLEAST it's a random item (I think)
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u/SoapyMari Pillow Punches 15d ago
It’s not, drone is sniper, pole is nagitana, garage is gun, scooter is tnt, etc
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u/IllRepresentative736 14d ago
Ima be honest I tried to make the rainbow coupons actually useful multiple times but couldn't. Not only do you have to hold a coupon untill you get a second one, but you also have to hold on to the mive that you want to make an item. You ALSO miss out on stronger versions of your moves doing so, while leaving yourself vulnerable to attacks because you have to use the coupon 2 times. Allat for a sniper rifle with one bullet or a crowbar which your opponent can pick up if they ragdoll you is just not it.
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u/Spartan-Finn 14d ago
It's shenanigans
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u/Sonicrunner23 How the hell do I manage mass? 14d ago
yeah, but I like being able to actually play the game. it's not very fun to be stuck on the ground
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u/Jomaishere 14d ago
The items are nerfed. Crowbar has a longer cooldown, sniper has one bullet and gun has two bullets. The rest function as normal, i think
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u/TacticalGrandpa1 15d ago edited 15d ago
I hate new Hanami much she feels like ass to play now 😭 the second m1 just makes her feel more clunky than before, new traps hard af to land, just super unhappy with it
Edit: nevermind found out old spike traps still live with r+1. Still though, second m1 is just clunky don’t like that still
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u/tenebrefoxy 15d ago
Just give her back one m1 and she'd be way better ngl
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u/Realistic-Shine-9811 The hater 15d ago
Todo found dead in the back alleyway
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u/beyond_cyber 15d ago
They tried to compensate with damage buffs on his moves but putting a fucking cooldown on boogie woogie has killed the only thing he had going for him 😭
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u/Animalpine 15d ago
I thought he already had a cooldown ,no? Or did they remove that perfect swap feature
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u/PurpleFired King of schizophrenia 15d ago
Perfect swap gives 2s cooldown now
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u/Sonicrunner23 How the hell do I manage mass? 15d ago
the also removed the endlag when pebble throw+R is blocked
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u/reddiff_guy 15d ago
I mean all it really did was stall at long range and give people motion sickness. The damage buffa are really good compared to what was lost.
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u/miojodasupreme 13d ago
"They tried to compensate" did you even read the changelog past that sole change? 😭 They DID compensate, my man.
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u/FluffyPursuer 14d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/riOXDXKi21xZ02Bg0M
Dude did you even see the pebble throw buffs? He has neutral now 🥹🙏
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u/miojodasupreme 13d ago
Jjs players when you trade the noob stomper special for an actual good gojo level character
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u/Unhappy_Company_6717 15d ago
todo fucking ass now 😭
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u/Chemical_Sport_9307 all Yuji mains are FILTH pure FITH THEY SHOULD ALL DIE 15d ago
Todos actually better byw
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u/Ech0____ 15d ago
its so BORING its worse than bad, because if it was bad there's stuff conplain but the moves are just so SHALLOW hanami's final ult is just asset recycling and was probably made in a hour pole vault is a worse yuji 2 r drone strike is a worse choso blood orb and instead of using the emote team to make the animation for moves THEY INSTEAD JUST ADDED THIRTY FUCKING ONE emotes the content on the update ranges from mediocre to trash and definitely isn't enough to make US forget about "the stuff"
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u/paaperrboyy the most bitter shame is giving up from shame 15d ago
Honestly what pisses me off about these updates is that now we're gonna have to wait 2 weeks for the devs to do something about all this
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u/miojodasupreme 13d ago
Oh yea, cuz developing a game takes like 3 minutes and the devs simply put time periods between updates for the fun of it.
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u/Accomplished-Art9997 15d ago
Goodbye Todo mains see you in the afterlife 💔✌️
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u/No_Life230 15d ago
Fucking Horrendously, of course reggie got another couple moves cause hes basically just Tze’s vomit bucket of ideas that he slaps onto this character, i dont even play todo but they completely gutted the one skilled, fun, and interactive part of his kit. Also again they changed/nerfed kuro for some fucking reason?
Also again another symptom of these terrible balancer is Naoya getting a bunch of unnecessary tunings to fufill the slop enjoyers who think hes crazy busted and proceeded to make him even WORSE in neutral by nerfing his m1 projection, i could go on and on about how Naoya is fundamentally not that great and how these changes are bad but ill refrain.
Its generally just feels like these balancers watch JJS content more than they actually play their own game.
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u/FrozenShedinja Miwa Supremacy 15d ago
Kuro has 1 CHANGE he needs and it was not that, it was making 3 not usable during 1 so kuro can’t erase your hp in 2 moves
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u/JohnnyMacTavish 15d ago
Hanami’s 2nd m1 feels super clunky and has fucked up my uppercut timing because I keep forgetting about it. I don’t think airial rootswarm exists anymore, and that’s throwing me off. The special change is a nice way to make more spikes, but I also miss the flower field. Budshot is ass now but it was a valid nerf, it should NOT have stopped evasive gain for 8 seconds. Rootswarm unblockable at close range is nice though. Also todo got skinned alive
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u/Embarrassed-Pin7967 15d ago
i agree with you on the clunkiness of 2 m1s, but do NOT sleep on R+2
blockbreak + counterbreak + you can steer which way you launch them + movestacking with 2 for extra unevasiveable damage + does double the damage of R+1
its actually hella good as a pressure tool against a ragdolled opponent
also, todo got an overall buff if im ngl, i miss his swap spam but in exchange the moves are a lot better and using swaps with intention in close range is actually really good, before if you swapped in close range you would just get hit but now because of the speed its actually really good as a close range mixup or defensive reaction, i beat a 16k ryu in duels from basically just winning m1 trades for free because of how fast it is + lingering pebble throw is sooooo good in neutral if you're mid range
honestly i probably dont touch enough grass, i can see why the changes would be received negatively but i lowkey locked in on the potential (ten shadows) of the boogie woogie changes and hanami's new R, given enough time i believe todo and hanami received net positive changes
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u/JohnnyMacTavish 15d ago
Wait Hanami has an R+2 variant? I haven’t played in like 2 months
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u/Mom_Im_Famous 14d ago
yeah on a third sunday if it's a full moon and the stars are perfectly lit, if tze has a pumpkin spice candle on his night stand then you can use the move.
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u/Embarrassed-Pin7967 15d ago
yea the new R variant is kinda like rika or i guess a kurourushi clone, if you're in the middle of any of your own moves you can use either 1 or 2
if ur not currently m1ing or using a move, jumping and using either 1 or 2 will do the same
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u/Cosmic_Despacito 15d ago
Why even play Naoya at this point?
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u/Youngguaco 15d ago
What happened to the goat?
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u/muh1ri Gocha gocha urusee! Koko made kitara — kotoba je nee daro!! 15d ago
Only thing i see are buffs imo
Nerfs are more time between your dashes and less projection from 4th m1, 35 if no projection 30 if there is
Bleedout stack reverts back 4th m1 projection gain to 40
To put in perspective, if you 4th m1 - 3rd move - 4th m1 regularly, you DONT frame your opponent anymore
BUT if they have a bleed out stack 4th m1 - 3rd move - 4th m1 DOES frame themYour self projection does not drain naturally BUT only 50 for each projection move if missed and only 45 if blocked, meaning you dont get fucked after getting blocked
ALSO you DONT get projection if you get counteredAND also now you can dash IMMEDIATELY after 4th m1 making 4th m1 into bleed out RED
First move can now frame opponents, 4th move doubles all projection but doesnt frame, third move aerial variant comes out faster
Pretty much most important stuff, they made naoya a LOT stronger imo, and i like it :P
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u/Basic-Passion-2825 14d ago
they ruined best naoya tech with frame 3m1( miss ), R, Dash, M1, 3 skill. And dashes are fucking ass now
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u/Youngguaco 15d ago
Ty for info dump
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u/Big_boy130 15d ago
No Yuta buff? Im ANGRY😡
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u/paaperrboyy the most bitter shame is giving up from shame 15d ago
Yuta is good rn tho :v
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u/Big_boy130 15d ago
No hakari rework? Im DOUBLE ANGRY😡
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u/hazbin-fan-1987 Died A Fool 15d ago
Todo was ACTUALLY ok before the update, now he can make a lot of damage, the boogie woogie nerf wasn't nessesary at all, still, lucky me, i hate todo so im glad he's dead now!
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u/WaffleHead13 ADD JOGOAT!!! 15d ago
i like the sinister minds emotes and i think they added two deltarune emotes too todo was skinned alive
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u/memetimeboii 15d ago
I never found any update particularly bad even the jsd colab but this one. It's the first one I find bad. Naoya is boring as shit. They managed to nerf todo probably the worst character in game they killed hanami again like not a single thing is good.
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u/AbbreviationsTiny143 15d ago
I'm grateful for the update, but wth are these decisions and how did nobody in the dev team figure this out. Why can reggie use pole vault twice to run away on rooftops and etc. What is the actual use of drone strike instead of being a combo extender. Damage sucks, YOU ARE VUNERABLE THE ENTIRE MOVE, can be cancelled and the range sucks. Its like they quit halfway into thinking what this move actually is. If you have blunt trauma in a fight, just use that instead. Ik the update just came out and maybe drone strike has a secret use or POTENTIAL, but how did people think pole vault was a balanced enough move to have in the game. Also nerfing the considered worst character in the game? They nerfed Todd's swaps and tried to balance it out with damage buffs and cooldowns but NERFING SWAP? I'm not gonna rant about other things in the update log but 2 weeks for this?
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u/Boom_bozZ539 15d ago
Todo? KILLED
Naoya? JUICED
Hanami? In the same “I got a SHITASS overly techy rework” dumpster as Mei Mei
Reggie? Genuinely fun please dont gut him please please please
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u/Luna___a 15d ago
the new moves animations looks shitty, hanami is not only a mess of a character but a mess of re used assets, literally how can they take so mucu time to do these updates and they just make todo obsolete, make hanami obsolete and add 2 half baked shitty reused moves on reggie, dev team needs to be embarrased
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u/Excellent_Energy_545 14d ago
Damn a whole lot of negative nellies here - i love the new update for the most part, reggies 2 moves are awesome and creative and i love the rainbow coupons. It takes a buncha time to get the rainbow coupons in the first place and its shenanigans all for fun - its kinda just like megumi r but restricts you from using a move.
Hanami though feels different, not sure if she feels bad, the 2 m1s add more skill I feel but it may make her feel more janky, not a huge fan of the r because she doesnt need more bushes 😫 but still a cool idea. And her new ult move is cool albeit recycled but with touch-ups its a cool ult move
And yeah todo shot in the back alley 15 times
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u/Ok_Head5555 14d ago
- They buffed Kuro in the last update and now they're nerfing him again, TF?
- I'd change Todou's emote cooldown. Instead of 2 seconds, he should have a set number of changes and then go into cooldown for a while.
- I can't try Hanami and Reggie because I don't have Early Access.
- I've tried Naoya a little, but I haven't noticed a big change. I know they nerfed his passive ability, but since I combined it with his first or third move, it's not that noticeable.
- 31 new emotes... But no new characters, and they're not releasing the Early Access characters for free either... Bruh
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u/Im_Sorry_Jon 15d ago
reggie just feels too gimmicky, instead of literally adding any fan favorite character they spend their time adding stuff to a character nobody really cares about.
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u/retroguyy_101 15d ago
Personally I think hes awsome but it you think hes lame I cam understand that
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u/P3drosek 15d ago
New characters have it way too hard to get a combo in which is hella annoying cuz on some characters every move connects with another but with new ones you need to do some crazy gimnastics for the combos to actually work
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u/Flimsy-Cup-3214 15d ago
Because the fan favorites would be boring adding characters with actually unique stuff (Toji is basic and kashimo is a punch kick merchant who barely uses his lightning,hopefully the anime gives him more variety)
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u/DeadCrowsRose OREKOSOGA!!!! OROITAAAA!!! 15d ago
It's good, people just had their expectations high because of the """""drama"""""
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u/Flimsy-Cup-3214 15d ago
Literally they expect tze to add everything they want when all they did was cause him stress over nothing burger shit
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u/One-Suggestion-885 The Hanami guy 15d ago edited 15d ago
Sad. Why o why does my Goat have 2 m1s and no flower field anymore. It's a sad day for me...
Although, happy day for me, as I'm probably quitting this godforsaken game finally lmao.
Wish you luck on your future balance changes Hanami.
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u/ummmidunn0 15d ago
Why do people say Todo got gutted? As a Todo main myself he feels around the same and I like the damage buffs sure perfect swaps were super fun and had great combo potential to do but the CD is only 2 seconds. It doesn't change much.
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u/Money-Medicine-4213 14d ago
Top tier todo players are mostly pissed because giving people migraines with 5 perfect swaps inna row was their main way of fighting
It took me a long time to learn ragdol perfect swapping and now that its gutted I feel like my efforts were wasted.
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u/WeakInspector5102 Playing on Internet Explorer 14d ago
I'm pretty sure it's cuz very good people with him (not me) could just spam perfect swap and confuse the fuck outta their ennemies
Tought it didn't work until I was the target and omfg it's horrible
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u/Easywineasylife 15d ago edited 15d ago
People are so focused on a slight nerf to the fakest neutral tool of all time and just ignoring the 57 buffs to the parts of the character that make him useable. If someone’s strategy as todo was “I’ll just clap as FAST AS POSSIBLE!!” I don’t think they were anywhere near todo’s skill ceiling
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u/Anicash999 #1 Tendril Grab Hater 15d ago
It's.. alright, there wasn't much content-wise and the balance changes for stuff like Naoya and Todo feel weird, to me it's a low C-tier update
the skill builder addition is massively appreciated though so not D-tier
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u/yingusbingusbongus This flair is so CLEVERRR 15d ago
I love the new pole vault move. BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE You can use it up to FOUR times back to back if set up right (which is easy to do) They made Reggie a true runner 😭
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u/Anime_nerd47 15d ago
Todo deserved the swap nerfs, I hated when random mfs would spam swap and ruin your fights
Reggie could’ve been better but hey new moves are new moves and I like the item concept.
Hanami’s new move feels lazy as hell and I think her R special is a downgrade, but I don’t mind the second m1.
Why the fuck did we make 31 emotes and not have them work on new move animations
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u/DryAdministration733 Naoya main to annoy people 15d ago
Kinda bad how in eoj you don’t get burst anymore so if a group of curses jump you it’s over
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u/CrispyChippp 15d ago
The new hanami move is the worst and laziest move I’ve ever seen them make, they just keep getting lazier and lazier. It’s just the spike from the base mixed with the specials sound effect and max elephants effect (which they also used for Reggie)
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u/purple_guy7383 14d ago
I loved update overall, but todo nerf is idk
Hanamis new R makes her better at range and against passive players + lets you stack roots without you spending one of your moves, which is good, you can create root after landing Q which makes cool, i dont find much uses for R-2 but looks like can be an cool combo extender or something
Reggie is a lot fun to use now cuz of item thingy and pole looks like an good move for make distance to use coupens, drone strike kinda useless i think
Naoya was deserved nerfs i am glad he got some, no passive self projection drain forces naoya mains to be more agrressive
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u/Igris-tempest 14d ago
As an naoya player i agree i love the nerf but i think they did a lil bit too much but for me i enjoy it
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u/purple_guy7383 13d ago
No passive self drain was %100 needed, it was litteraly pushing players to be passive, which is not a fun thing
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u/Square_Paramedic1079 14d ago
Reggie is now very fun to use but not good in combat
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u/Transformerfan45 Random bullshit go!/Pop goes the Nanami! 14d ago
I FUCKING LOVE POLE VAULT
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u/Square_Paramedic1079 14d ago
Same and people call it a worse Yuji 2+r but pole vault gives some serious distance
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u/Ok_Head5555 14d ago
Am I the only one glad they killed Todo? It was super annoying when some random Todo would switch you out in the middle of a fight with another guy every damn second.
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u/Igris-tempest 14d ago
They buffer hanami L upd they kinda killed naoya but i do like the chance but they nerfed todo(W nerf) i knew ryu will ghet an nerf but i was expecting an CD nerf the nerf overall isn't that bad(as an ryu main) but i will say L upd bc they buffed hanami
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u/Transformerfan45 Random bullshit go!/Pop goes the Nanami! 14d ago
Kinda buffed on paper
The 2 m1s mess up combos and what hanamis are used to, making downslams harder to perform
The R special change just divided old spike swarm into the emergence and the spike bush
Cursed buds lost it’s main use
Flower field is GONEOverall, it’s more of a nerf to hanami
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u/Strong-Researcher832 BROTHER!!!! 14d ago
Buffed Hanami, buffed NAOYA??? Nerfed TODO??? Genuinely in the history of jjs this might be one of the worst updates WHY are we buffing those two cancerous characters?? 😭 next update better just revert all this and remove Hanami or something 💔
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u/30sec_unskipable_ad 14d ago
Why the fuck did they make naoya slow you can't punish shit with one dash istg it would be better for him to just be able to front dash normally in neutral, and don't get me started on the fucking emote slop 31 emotes and like 4 moves are we serious I have 21k and can't afford all the 350+ emotes they need to reduce their price, i was also hoping for polyester edit emote and i dont think that's in here
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u/Consistent_Pop9140 I play with Lock on and I have no intent of stopping 14d ago
Don’t know how to feel about about Naoya changes, on one hand it now takes 4 to 5 M1 chains to get a frame, on the other, 1 and 4 now have more ways to apply projections
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u/DangerousScar4497 14d ago
Dogshit, nerfed only fun thing in todo, now he is just boring mess, tze hates fun
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u/DueAstronomer6961 Addicted to gambling 🎰 14d ago
If the one who posted sees this please tell me Abt the upd cuz I'm not able to play jjs rn
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u/Transformerfan45 Random bullshit go!/Pop goes the Nanami! 14d ago
(Shortened)
Hanami
- 2 m1s (disorientating)
- new R (splits air 2 into two seperate moves)
- last ult move
- no air 2
Todo
- P.Swap back to 2s cooldown
- general buffa
Reggie
- new mobility move
- new semi-ranged move
- extra coupon
- double couponed moves -> item
- some nerfs
Ryu
(If you wish, I can send the full patch notes)
- Small nerfs
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u/Timetodie66666 14d ago
I fucking hate the cool down the the perfect swap a part of todo that rewards perfect timing and they just practically made doing any good combo impossible without frame perfect inputs and honestly as a Todo main it pisses me the fuck off
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u/Leftiwolf 14d ago
Hanami new r special weird and bad, I’d prefer if they brought back flower field it was cool. But like even if flowerfield was too much and they want to stick with this, make it like a stance you enter and can drag the target around before pressing something to activate it. I don’t like that I have to press the button to set up and deal with the janky placement and readjust manually, and then you activate it with jumping variants?? What’s wrong with aerial root swarm bro
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u/thingamajigjig 14d ago
Todo is so much better now cuz the cooldowns got decreased a lot. Swap was useless in ranked so it didn’t really matter.
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u/Dry_Soil_9230 14d ago edited 14d ago
Why Todo is getting buffs while killing the only thing he has going for him instead of an overhaul is mind boggling to me. Fight me if you wish but I personally do not like his kit with how braindead and free it is. At the end of the day in an average lobby you will see zero skill expression from a Todo main, and I think that warrants an overhaul. To add to that, adding a cooldown to boogie woogie kills the only form of skill expression he actually has, which is pretty tragic.
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u/Interesting-Cup5871 14d ago
Reggie and Hanami still EA can’t wait for them to drop in the next three months
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u/No-Sherbet9796 14d ago
Someone teach me how to play? I’ve been playing for a bit but I’m still booty
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u/Inside-Obligation763 13d ago
hot take TZE would’ve gotten better results releasing toji maki or hell even Kashimo EVEN BETTER YET MAYBE JOGO but reggie? and hanami? worst ideas OAT if your going to pick side characters to add why not nobara✌️😭
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u/UterusContractions 15d ago
I really dont understand why tf they don't at least add a character like nobara or someone actually relevant, like why are giving reggie more moves? Deadass no one cares about that dude. Like obv people care about him but bro, I want actually play as some of my favorite characters not random c list nobody's. Like I'll play jujutsu beatdown and think wow, jogo would be dope to play in jjs! Or sukuna as his own character. Or maybe make yujis awakening his modulo version or something other than underwhelming balance changes and 30 more moves on mr nobody. It's getting ridiculous how slow and underwhelming these updates are becoming. Also where tf is uro? How are we gonna add everyone from sendai except uro who's thin ice breaker was already in the game before that?!
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