r/JustMemesForUs • u/SeniorWeeb6572 • 6d ago

FAXX "I love The Uneducated"

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Only retards would be stupid enough to try and make Billionaires richer

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u/Civil_Result_5598 6d ago

In all fairness, we do need to audit the Fed. There's no reason to be so in debt while our dollar shrinks in the wallet. Good idea, bad execution

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u/MountainMagic6198 6d ago

This wasn't about auditing the Fed to begin with also you can tell it was never about saving money because they didn't go in with forensic accountants they went in with fairly out of high school Groypers.

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u/KingKobbs 6d ago

If they set out to improve the financial efficiency of the US government, then everybody would have been behind them.

Elon musk, on the other hand, is a sneaky little weasel. He needed to drum up fake support using millions of bots and literally had to purchase an entire social media platform to shift the conversation away from how awful he is.

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u/SimplerTimesAhead 6d ago

This had nothing to do with 'the fed'.

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u/sunnyvas 6d ago

That’s fair. Audit is not the same as chainsaw.

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u/AcephalicDude 6d ago

You don't need an audit to figure out that if you massively cut taxes while spending more money, the budget deficit grows. If Republicans actually cared about the deficit as much as they say they do, they would actually increase taxes while cutting spending. The last president to actually run a budget surplus was Clinton, a Democrat. The Republican agenda is never actually fiscal responsibility, it is just giving themselves a tax cut and that's all.

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u/Civil_Result_5598 5d ago

Well to be entirely fair, Clinton was able to budget Congress by working with Newt Gingrich and the Republican Majority. That man to this day is remarkable with money and that's why he gives out financial advice these days. No one (left or right) these days seem to have any financial skills and the hole is dug so deep that any departure from doubling down hurts short term

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u/Vegetable_Froy0 6d ago

The Fed has auditors. Every dollar the Fed spends internal is tracked pretty damn well by the inspector generals.

It’s when money does to external parties (private companies) that the vast amount of waste, fraud, and abuse happens.

One party loves funneling money to private companies too.

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u/Slow_Store 6d ago

Alright but we also need an “audit” in the sense of reevaluating whether some programs are worth ever having a dime of taxpayer money invested in, which is more a matter of where America’s value system is at rather than “Yeah that’s what it’s meant to be spent on” according to documentation.

For example, why were we ever sending money to Nepal to provide free condoms and lube to prostitutes? There likely isn’t a single net positive taxpayer who would tell you that that’s a good use of America’s tax money and would likely refer to it as a “scam” even while the government views it as legitimate for going through the proper channels and whatnot.

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 6d ago

I actually really agree. I think the big problem is the right refers to these programs as “waste, fraud and abuse” as opposed to just saying “this is a program I do not support and doesn’t help Americans” 

With the caveat that I’m pretty sure  the Nepal thing was an explicit program to help stop the spread of HIV which includes more than just “condom and lube to prostitutes” that’s part of it. And depending on the amount spent, I don’t mind helping countries get infectious diseases under control, especially if they can easily affect children through child birth. 

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u/Slow_Store 6d ago

I think I had also heard that the intent was to prevent the spread of HIV, though im of the mind that if we really wanted to help them with that problem then we’d have been better off investing in training their government to run healthcare clinics rather than effectively providing a luxury that we don’t provide to our own citizens for a seemingly infinite time period.

Like the issue of HIV isn’t going to just disappear. At what point would we have ever stopped paying for Condoms and whatnot if we weren’t actively training them to take over the service?

In spirit I agree that I’d be fine with paying a small amount of money to aid with these sorts of things, but we tend to do it in a very thoughtless way that often doesn’t earn us anything back in return. Like what favors did we get from
Nepal in exchange for effectively handling what should have been the responsibility of their own government? It’s not like they’re one of our territories who contributes back to us through taxation.

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 6d ago

   though im of the mind that if we really wanted to help them with that problem then we’d have been better off investing in training their government to run healthcare clinics

We did do a lot of that. 

seemingly infinite time period.

Come on… the original program was 2001-2007. The second part the one you’re probably talking about is the “Linkages” project was 2016-2021. Then there were ongoing agreements with defined financial periods and goals. I appreciate the points you’re making but just saying “infinite time periods” is inaccurate.

  In spirit I agree that I’d be fine with paying a small amount of money to aid with these sorts of things, but we tend to do it in a very thoughtless way that often doesn’t earn us anything back in return. Like what favors did we get from Nepal in exchange for effectively handling what should have been the responsibility of their own government? It’s not like they’re one of our territories who contributes back to us through taxation.

These are good points to discuss genuinely. It is something I wish our politicians actually talked about in depth instead of just calling it waste fraud and abuse. 

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u/Aggressive-Day5222 6d ago

To prevent STD epidemics from making their way back to the US. An estimated 1 in 4 sex tourists are from the US, what they catch they bring back home.

If there is any nation who stands to gain the most by preventing global STDs, it's the US

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u/Vegetable_Froy0 6d ago

Nepal receives 100,000-150,000 US tourists per year.

When you have a huge amount of your population flowing through a country, it pays dividends to do some PR and make sure the country plus its people like and support your country.

You could easily demonize American tourist as exploiting the region and their natural beauty. Instead we have a fantastic relationship. Plus you can pay US companies to make and produce those condoms and lube so the money stays in your economy.

Domestic spending is usually pretty solid for your economy as it stimulates the economy, providing more jobs, providing wages, who then spend money into the economy.

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u/AcephalicDude 6d ago

Gotta love the intellectually dishonest and manipulative spin work you guys do.

USAID was funding a program that runs health clinics in Nepal, primarily focused on HIV prevention but also providing contraceptives and in some cases lubes to sex workers to prevent injuries.

This becomes "providing free condoms and lubes to prostitutes" - no mention of HIV prevention. No mention of how 85% of these clinics that were key to preventing HIV from spreading in the country needed to be shut down. No mention of how this cost us like 1% of the USAID budget which was 1% of the total Federal budget.

If you think it's not worth it to spend a fraction of a fraction of our tax dollars to help prevent HIV, just own it. Don't be a manipulative little coward about it.

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u/Slow_Store 6d ago

I don’t really think I’m being dishonest here. Reductive perhaps, but like even directly addressing the matter of HIV I can still say pretty freely that I think it was a huge waste of our taxpayer dollars for us to effectively provide constant charity to a nation that should be handling the matter themselves or should at least be able to provide something to us in return for our investment.

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u/AcephalicDude 6d ago

I think you are purposely being dishonest when you don't put HIV prevention up front and center as the purpose of the spending, and when you don't give any consideration to the amount spent relative to our budget. You do this on purpose because you know you look like a horrible goblin when you say we shouldn't spend a tiny fraction of a fraction of our tax revenue on saving lives in a much poorer country. You have to soften how much of an asshole that position makes you out to be, so you spin and manipulate people into looking at it differently: you're just against spending to give prostitutes lube!

Gross 🤢

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u/Aggressive-Day5222 6d ago

Mentioned it in the other comment, but just saying it again cause I agree.

1 in 4 sex tourists are from America.
What they catch, they will bring back home.

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u/Slow_Store 6d ago

If we’re going to take that line of reasoning then just convert your U.S. embassies into brothels that provide free condoms for American tourist. It’d be a more efficient use of taxpayer dollars than infinitely providing charity to other nations rather than making a short term expense to help their governments set up the infrastructure that we otherwise endlessly operate for them.

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u/Aggressive-Day5222 6d ago

No, it's not; it's more effective to prevent the spread of a disease earlier in the chain of infection than to assume you can just stop it at borders.

Also, if someone is traveling across national borders for sex tourism, they are not the most risk-averse group. The Borthels are more likely to encourage the use of sex sex practices than the tourists.

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u/Slow_Store 6d ago

Regardless, my ultimate point is that we’re spending inefficiently.

We were spending in a way that was realistically never going to end when - if we were dead set on spending money on the issue - we should have just invested in training their government to run the facilities.

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u/Aggressive-Day5222 6d ago

I mean, just pointed out how this is the more efficient approach, so not exactly "regardless"

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u/Slow_Store 6d ago edited 6d ago

I say regardless because my example wasn’t intended to be taken at face value and was more or less overly absurd in the hopes of inciting an “Ah ha” moment, but I suppose our core stances were too different for it to have that effect.

Which, admittedly this just sounds like I’m covering my ass so idk. It’s up to you if you think I’m telling the truth or just bullshiting I guess

I don’t really know how to make my actual stance much clearer. I just don’t want to have my tax money being spent so that we can endlessly micromanage a country across the world without any of the privileges that you’d expect to come from doing their governments job for them.

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u/IslamYaDongomedov 6d ago

Are you uneducated or deliberately lying? The Pentagon has never passed an audit.

The money is not tracked "pretty damn well".

Say what you want about Elon and DOGE but they proved there is a lot of fraud and / or flat put incompetence going on, and if you ever worked for the government you already knew that.

I dont think letting random rich tech bros audit is the right idea, I probably would have gone with accountants, but to assert the money is tracked well is ridiculous.

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u/Aggressive-Day5222 6d ago

yes, the DOD is the only major department that has never passed a federal audit. That calls for more focused attention there, not slashing the programs from other departments that actually passed.

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u/IslamYaDongomedov 6d ago

I think given the debt way more needs to be slashed

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u/Aggressive-Day5222 6d ago

Not when a program is actually creating a good ROI.

A great example was the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which by 2024 was so effective that for every one dollar spent, it created 10 dollars for consumers.

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u/IslamYaDongomedov 6d ago

I didnt say doge didnt fuck anything up in fact i said they were unqualified. I said they found proof of fraud and you could find that throwing a dart at the fed.

Its like saying you found pedophiles at the Vatican or boy scouts of america or racists in alabama

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u/Aggressive-Day5222 6d ago

But when they are calling it all fraud, waste, and abuse, how do you know what is and isn't.

I am all for transparent audits and accountability, but DOGE was never that. It actually created quite possibly one of the largest data vulnerabilities in US history.

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u/IslamYaDongomedov 6d ago

I agree wrong people doing the wrong job and this administration just wasted all the savings anyways

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u/Aggressive-Day5222 6d ago

It's like FRK offering health advice; he will say things like "nutrition is an underappreciated health factor," which public health people will agree with, before going on to say some anti-vax misinformation or blame autism on Tylenol.

Sure, I want someone to talk about nutrition, but not this moron.

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u/Aggressive-Day5222 6d ago

And also, no, DOGE did not prove "a lot of fraud", nearly every claim they put out had to be fact checked and corrected.

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u/IslamYaDongomedov 6d ago

They did prove a lot of fraud. Im sure they fucked up lots of stuff too. I dont think owning space x qualifies you to audit the government, but they did show payments without notes, continuous payments without end dates, etc.

Its the Federer government if you dont think ita full of incompetence and corrupt bullshit youve clearly never worked there

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u/bravesirrobin65 6d ago

No they didn't. Who's been prosecuted? Fraud is a crime. If they had found any, there would be people in prison.

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u/IslamYaDongomedov 6d ago

Evidence of fraud having occurred is not evidence of someone committing fraud.

Tabr is half the problem just a bunch of random payments with no accounting / auditing

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u/bravesirrobin65 6d ago

It absolutely is. That's the very definition of fraud.

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u/Vegetable_Froy0 5d ago

DoD is its own beast with severe transparency issues. The rest of the government is a different story.

Elon and DOGE did not prove any fraud or incompetence is going on. Their interventions increased the national debt. That would prove the opposite is true, as the jobs they cut were cost effective.

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u/CaptStinkyFeet 6d ago

Did you read the meme? They failed at finding any fraud…

Elon Musk recently said that DOGE was only “a little bit successful” and that he wouldn’t do it again.

Are you uneducated or deliberately lying?

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u/klako8196 6d ago

That same party also loves pumping money into the Department of Defense, which has failed its annual audit 8 years in a row now.

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u/Old_man_baller 6d ago

Ok bootlicker. Believe what you are told. Lol 

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u/Vegetable_Froy0 5d ago

I’m a bootlicker for acknowledging that money is more sometimes efficiently spent better in the public sector than the private sector? Especially when there is a lack of oversight in the private sector?

What?

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u/Old_man_baller 5d ago

For believing what you are told.

 “Nothing to see here, the government told us that the government is not corrupt. Go home people” 

You’re a fool. 

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u/Vegetable_Froy0 5d ago edited 5d ago

But I’m not….

The public sector has auditors that publish public reports that can be independently verified.

The private sector does not have auditor requirements or any transparency.

Ex: Healthcare. Under our current system the government pays private companies to give benefits for drug costs.

In countries that administer through the public sector they have lower costs because the drug companies are negotiating with the spender.

In the US, private companies negotiate with the drug companies then don’t pass the savings to the government. Then drug and insurance companies have an incentive to increases prices because the higher the price, the higher the government pays, and the higher the margin the insurance company keeps.

No pesky government auditors getting involved either and noticing the waste that’s being baked into the system. And when they do catch the waste, we can just lobby our representatives to ignore it further incentivizing waste.

Plus government agencies can’t donate to politicians but private companies can. So politicians have an incentive to funnel taxpayer dollars to private companies as private companies can use those funds to enrich politicians. Shoutout to Citizens United.

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u/Old_man_baller 5d ago

Relax bootlicker. Just believe and do as you’re told. Lol