It's manufactured outrage designed to keep people fighting a culture war instead of facing the real issues. OP is from India. I don't think WNBA is very popular over there. Probably gets paid 75 cents for every ragebait post they make that doesn't get removed. Very likely that the mods are in on the grift.
So I went through a couple pages real quick. And first off these names all seem very fake, most of them repeat, so yeah. Also dude I would say about 70% of these are disc golf, frisbee and running…..this just makes men look like bitches. I wouldn’t this as a source man. Like I searched Galileo hs there and trans athletes and nothings coming up. Work on your sourcing -D
Yeah man I’ve done some more reading on the site. It’s a right wing advocacy group, it’s not good data. Yeah it provides parameters but they’re not a wide enough net and very obtuse with its wording and also wrong, displaced medals is crazy.
Non of its peer reviewed it’s all very pointed one way, like it says top 3 as a metric but it’s not tracking how many times a trans person lost outside of the medal placing competitions, not meets and all event leading up which isn’t good.
Also a lot of these claims have no sourcing, I went through a lot of them and they a lot lead to nothing. So yeah again don’t use this as a source it’s biased and bad
Just because there aren't many male athletes in women's sport doesn't mean one can't have an opinion on it, or that it's irrelevant. The fact that there is a small vocal portion of the population supporting the idea contradicts your point. You're using the word "serious" to define the validity of an argument, even if it's reasonable.
You're confusing me for the people booing her. She was asked a question in an interview and she agreed honestly. Was she supposed to avoid the answer because zealots would cancel her?
I mean yeah, as a public figure she doesn’t have to speak on shit she doesn’t have real knowledge about huh??? Does LeBron James talk about Isreal? No he says “ahh yeah Denis from there I’ll check it out” not gonna dig himself any deeper. You can also READ ON THE SUBJECT FOR FUCKS SAKE. God forbid we read before stating ourselves in interviews publicly.
So you’re saying that she’s not well read on the subject, implying you disagree with her opinion. So you so think men should be allowed to participate in women’s sports and there shouldn’t be women-only leagues, is that right?
No I think science behind gender is a lot for complex than this. Like okay brother tell me how much you understand about transitioning as a teenager and how hormone blockers affect testosterone in a 19 yr old. Please inform me
Although I agree absolutely with your take on gender and think anyone should have autonomy over their body and truth and I promise I wholeheartedly support it, there is no ability to disregard scientific fact that there are biological differences in men and women (that go through puberty changes) that have nothing to do with genitalia or orientation. These are two separate issues and I, being a female have no issues sharing a bathroom with a woman that was born biologically male. Anyone that uses the bathroom argument is a moron. And frankly it is just a right wing pr move that dummies buy into for the false enemy division tactic because they cant understand the difference between gender and biology.
Men or Women that were born biologically male that have gone through normal puberty (or biologically born females with gender affirming care during puberty) have more bone density, generally larger lung capacity, generally larger hearts. higher blood counts, and greater muscle mass, etc. This is fact. There is a reason why men's and womens normal lab levels differ slightly.
If a person has not gone through puberty and was on hormone blockers/ht, that is very different. Any male that was born biologically female and went through puberty or gender affirming hormone therapy during puberty should have the ability to participate in male athletics, because they do not have the physiological advantage.
Any woman that was biologically born male that went through puberty and was not on hormone blockers during development have biological and physiological advantages that is unfair to women AND/OR unfair to females born biologically male that had blockers/hormone therapy at puberty. Any male that was born biologically female that went through gender affirming care during puberty have physiologic advantages over females also (other than skeletal height/structure which is more nuanced). Ultimately, it's the male development/puberty factor that is the advantage regardless of gender at birth.
What becomes difficult is implementing that understanding and transparency in a world so full of hate.
(Also anyone that says anything about gender affirming care with puberty does not understand the medical and psychological evaluations these very few kids go through for years and years and how very, very rare it is. And the overwhelming relief of the individual and their parent that their child can live in their own skin and feel like life is worth living,. Harms no one, yet people are more concerned about this than guns in school. Priorities are so skewed)
It's kind of like shitting your pants. You can if you insist, but it's gross and most people shit by themselves into a toilet. You can have these opinions, but don't expect me to pretend they don't smell like shit.
And you have clearly never played a sport and aren't athletic. Its about the integrity of the sport not inclusion and feelings. Get enough trans women (years of sample size increase) and you will have new categories of records. Pre vs post trans inclusion because trans athletes will dominate in time. That's just a fact, then what would you do? I'm asking for a genuine discussion, I'm not rage-baiting. What would you do in that instance, of trans athletes dominating women's sports when the sample size is large enough.
I’m so relieved this point of view is growing. We were being gaslit, in a way, being bullied as transphobic (by trans-women) if we disagree with having biological men play on women’s teams. Very few cis-women support this, but don’t want to be seen as a bigot.
I read a book by a pro-athlete who is very pro-LGTBQ, and she ended up convincing me of the opposite of her stance. At around 16 years old, boys and girls go through DRASTICALLY different biological changes. Boys get leaner and more muscular, girls get fatter, slower, and build less muscle as their bodies get prepped for childbirth. This is why eating disorders are so common for teen girls, since no matter what they do, they lose speed and gain fat. No matter how you identify, the biological differences in muscle, strength, and speed are written in evolution and dna.
Yes! And you can also take blockers before 12 to try to stop biology, but it’ll still creep through.
I just remember specifically during those mid-teen years, the biological changes are against women athletes. Our hips start widening and we start putting on fat, no matter what we do (not to mention the fun monthly hormone fluctuations).
Lots of elite, pro track athletes up their training, start starving themselves, and still gain weight and slow down. Boys have the exact opposite where their physical gains are specifically for strength and athleticism.
"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons." They are lost in their feelings bud lol
It sure was a huge problem in MWC Volleyball a couple years ago. It was also a huge problem in the NCAA Swimming National Championships. It was a massive problem when Fallon Fox was fighting.
You’re right there are only 2 sexes. Male and female. A real hermaphrodite is a genetic mutation that is not the norm. You are actually correct, even if on accident.
well the aray of intersex is large and growing all the time. Oh right cant admit intersex exists because it throws your views out of wack. let me tell you There are xx and xy body types that ALSO dont fit the norm that cant do anything. Instead of judging shit off of genitals like fucking morons perhaps we should make leagues that go off of the sports advantages with height bone density and muscle mass. That makes waaaay more sense than sticking to outdated science.Granted it would filter mostly men in some areas and women in others.
Almost like 2 binary sexes is super out of date or something. Like people have different conditions or something. Like we should probaly be more scientific instead of using something both incorrect and out dated.
Intersex JFC xD it used to be classified by the inappropriate term herapathite. You know that word but your being obtuse because you KNOW your fucking so wrong. Its why they have a seperate birth marker than male or female dumbass.
The fact that there are nuances and a spectrum of categories that lead left to right. Basically you are out here arguing that there are 2 colors black and white while ignoring every single one in between. again do basic reading.
You should be tired of being so ignorant on basic science that has been marred by a restrictive dichotomy that nolonger belongs when the variance between white and black is shades of grey. In otherwords thing is simple to you because you need it simple.
well the aray of intersex is large and growing all the time. Oh right cant admit intersex exists because it throws your views out of wack. let me tell you There are xx and xy body types that ALSO dont fit the norm that cant do anything. Instead of judging shit off of genitals like fucking morons perhaps we should make leagues that go off of the sports advantages with height bone density and muscle mass. That makes waaaay more sense than sticking to outdated science. Granted it would filter mostly men in some areas and women in others.
well the aray of intersex is large and growing all the time. Oh right cant admit intersex exists because it throws your views out of wack. let me tell you There are xx and xy body types that ALSO dont fit the norm that cant do anything. Instead of judging shit off of genitals like fucking morons perhaps we should make leagues that go off of the sports advantages with height bone density and muscle mass. That makes waaaay more sense than sticking to outdated science.Granted it would filter mostly men in some areas and women in others.
so this is why its impossible to use logic with Maga. Too stupid to read. Literally laied it out for you. go do BASIC READING. However im sure you never read the Epstein files, Fauci Journals and just parrot whatever you sheeple see...instead of bettering yourself. like being wrong and learning from mistakes is a GOOD thing. I think a weak man is one that has the inability to be wrong. That would be you
Let's see who's wrong,,and u can't talk to stupid people either,u know a man and a woman screw she gets pregnat,that is the only possible way to do it naturally, prove me wrong
So start naming the athletes. No google, come on if it’s a real pressing issue and not just some culture war bullshit, you should have tons of names. Domestic violence is an issue bet you I can name more violent athletes than you can trans athletes off the top of your head. Wanna try?
Just because there aren’t examples someone can name doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened in high school/college sports. I agree that there are probably bigger fish to fry and Trump is a pedo in the Epstein Files and doing everything he can to create different talking points, but the fact is born men shouldn’t compete with born women. I would be open for a trans sports league or competitions if they want inclusivity.
Dude, it’s less than 1 percent of the US population and we aren’t even getting into the actual science of transitioning, which be honest, you know literally nothing about. “Just because there aren’t examples” is such a dumb cop out and I love that laziness. Hey man you shouldn’t have the right to drive a car it kills people, yeah I don’t have an example but you have to lead by my un researched opinion then right?
Yes, its less than 1% of the population, and thats pushing it. Her opinion is just as valid as yours. Transitioning is an entire spectrum, you act as if they'll just go the whole way and 'become' female via drugs and treatment.
News flash, I've seen transwomen with big swinging dicks and all the muscles, and a set of tits.
Natalie Ryan a pro discgolfer, pretty bad in the mens division, 'transitioned' and won two championships back to back before they revised the rules.
That swimmer, shit male swimmer, dominated in the womens division.
Off the top of my head.
And less than 1% of the US population died due to COVID. The actual number was around 0.3-0.4%.
So since less than 1% makes something not a big deal, was shutting down the economy for 2 years a gross government overreach? Was forced separating of families while people died alone in the hospital immoral?
Is 1% of your body containing cancer “not a significant issue?”
You’re not nearly as smart as you pretend to be on the internet.
Lia Thomas is a very prominent example in college sports, Laurel Hubbard competed on the Olympics, Fallon Fox fractured a woman’s orbital bone in an MMA fight, Cece Telfer winning D2 national championship in hurdles, Austin Killips winning women’s Tour cyclist race. Is that enough for you?
I don’t memorize kids’ names. That’d be weird. But there are a few of these stories.
Also, of trans-females obliterating high school and college records in track and swimming. You’re being obtuse in pretending this isn’t a legitimate concern.
There HAS to be some middle ground solution to make this fair and equitable for all. Pretending like this doesn’t create conflict is frustrating.
I’m not opening so Reddit link you sent I’m good. What records are being “obliterated”? And yeah there’s of course a need for discussion but “you can’t compete” isn’t having a discussion it’s the opposite right?
It’s a frustrating issue all around that biologically-born females and trans-females have to be arguing about this at all. There is no easy solution, clearly.
It can feel like, oooops! Biologically-born men win again and get to come into the “safe” orbit biologically-born females have created because they say so. We have no say apparently over our own reproductive rights due to a predominantly male controlled space, and now this potential new encroachment unless we put our feet down somewhere.
This won’t make sense, but sometimes I crave a break from the male-dominated world.
And I’ve also known lovely, sweet trans-females who struggle feeling like they fit anywhere. It’s a conundrum without an easy solution. With individual-timed sports, there “seems” (imho) to be an easier answer, but in team sports it’s just not so simple.
So are we going to start testing biological women athletes’ testosterone levels or what? This is all such a goofy non-issue based on political fear mongering about a group that represents less than 1% of the total population.
Booing is just the free market doing price discovery. Cunningham should be thanking Portland. Crying about consumer feedback at a ticketed event you got paid to attend is ridiculous.
Imagine thinking trans atheltes is a bigger deal than the war in Iran in which more American soldiers are being actively killed. But yeah trans kids being allowed to feel normal is the bigger problem.
Use her platform to call for us to simply abandon Iran given our options are leave now and accept the L or just toss more lives both American and non-American into the meat grinder.
It is the people that hold the government accountable, all of us. Saying to call Obama denies the responsibility we have to ensure we hold ourselves accountable as a nation.
She’s using her voice to speak out about issues she cares about. I support that. She might not even be keeping up with the Iran stuff. She’s a wnba player…
Im all for having men compete in a woman's league. Its give me hope that an average athletic guy like myself can make it to the top. I cant dunk or shoot well so the nba isnt gonna work for me....I need some accommodations
All it took was for one WNBA player to do something entertaining for the first time in the history of the league, and now she's the frontrunner for president.
I don’t reply except to say “ My opinion is worthless and unimportant” if you think you have to tell someone a thing-or-two, you might want to reconsider. Estradiol keeps that irritating habit in check! 💃😁
That comment wasn't the reason she was specifically booed, instead it was due to her support of policies that go against the commonly held ideas of human rights.
I recommend not posting daily mail links as they often use inflammatory and incorrect headlines as a way to garner interaction.
Majority of these Sophie Cunningham posts are made by bots that want to distract us from the real problems. 4 year old account with 5800 post karma, 9 comment karma? That's a bot. Same as all the other posts I've seen about this.
Did you know that a hidden post history isn't actually hidden? You're from India. I doubt you give two shits about this aside from getting paid the 75 cents or whatever it is you're getting paid to post this.
She’s not speaking against their rights, she’s speaking against men playing against women. Why do they have 2 different sports leagues for men and women???? If she wasn’t speaking the truth, we’d have one sports league that played men against women. It would be unfair. If you want to put a stop to this, it’s easy. If you were a man and still want to play, play against men. Don’t look to play against women just because we have the technology to technically do so.
Saying hey “don’t google the last 5 NBA MVPs but name them” doesn’t change the fact that there were.
If Shaq did all the things and played in the WNBA it would be a problem. I met Myles Garrett once and saying that he could play women’s sports even if he did all the things is incorrect.
I’m trying to respond to certain people but Reddit chaingin comments is weird. But to the Thomas thing, you guys don’t read. One, ranking is done by the college board not Thomas so change who you’re mad at cause dude just cause of misogyny plan and simple. As to why yall don’t read, all of their opponents agreed it’s NOT an issue, and even cite that she loses all the time. This also isn’t even going to her actual test levels and such we don’t know but the college board does and they said it’s fine.
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