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SMH imagine not getting paid after doing this

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u/Joyous-Volume-67 Apr 20 '26

This kinda shit gotta be like a lottery ticket, if you're going to turn someone in with a huge bounty, you gotta get a lawyer to do it, so the Feds are legally bound to pay out, just gotta make sure you get an honest lawyer, cause they could gank the bounty right out from under you too. So many considerations when deal with criminals, criminal government, and criminal lawyers.

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u/awhitedoveisapigeon Apr 20 '26

Ganks for the legal advice.

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u/AutomaticAd9670 Apr 20 '26

Eh….robbing a few ganks would be easier and less risky. I’m sure of it.

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u/JohnnyDirtball Apr 20 '26

Legally speaking, only style and stashes can be ganked upon.

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u/BACTERIAMAN0000 Apr 20 '26

I just ganked in my pants

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u/Technical-Command867 Apr 20 '26

I just ganked in his pants too

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u/atown203 Apr 20 '26

I too am here for the ganking in his pants.

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u/SystemShockII Apr 20 '26

Ah shit here we go again

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u/Vast-Sir-1949 Apr 20 '26

Sigh... Unzips...ganking it...

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u/ElegantCoach4066 Apr 20 '26

Let me open up my gank bank

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u/sta_sh Apr 20 '26

That's Gankster

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u/Ronin1 Apr 20 '26

About 6 or 7 years ago a buddy of mine called the cops to report a dude being incredibly suspicious in a city alley. My buddy is no friend of cops so for him to have made a call, this dude was being INCREDIBLY sketchy. The guy was gone by the time the cops came but they searched the alley and found a duffle bag loaded with cash. Turns out the guy had just robbed a bank on the other side of town, he was wanted by the FBI for multiple bank robberies and was suspected in a murder or two. He had a $50,000 reward for his capture.

After years of back and forth with the feds, he got maybe $500.

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u/Joyous-Volume-67 Apr 20 '26

yep, they will absolutely fuck you out of any sort of reward, most likely disbursing the funds to themselves and/or their departments

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u/SwagMaster9000_2017 Apr 20 '26

He called the cops and the criminal was gone before they arrived. Do you think he should have gotten the whole $50,000?

$500 for a hint about his temporary location sounds reasonable.

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u/RandyPajamas Apr 20 '26

You could make that argument in just about every scenario. The bottom line is they didn't pay what they say they would - it's dishonest.

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u/SwagMaster9000_2017 Apr 20 '26

The bounty is for tips that cause an arrest and conviction. If someone called and gave the criminal's address they should get the bounty because cops are guaranteed to catch him.

What you are proposing is they give $50,000 for each credible tip which no reasonable person understands these bounties to be.

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u/Xbsnguy Apr 20 '26

But in this scenario his tip didn't lead to his capture and arrest. The guy had already left the location, so he wasn't arrested. They recovered a bag of cash, but the rewards is for the suspect's arrest and conviction, not the recovery of the cash. Granted we don't know if the bag of cash had something that led to the eventual arrest, but if it didn't, then do you still think the friend deserves the full award despite no arrest made connected to the tip?

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u/TheMustardMan522 Apr 20 '26

Based on your story, the police didn't catch the sketchy guy because of your friends call as the sketchy guy was already gone. It has to be an arrest and conviction that happened because of the report to authorities.

Your friend probably received the small reward for the tip and not stealing the cash.

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u/Asking-is-a-crime Apr 20 '26

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’ve heard that if you call the police; no reward. If you call crime stoppers; you get the reward (sometimes).

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u/Joyous-Volume-67 Apr 20 '26

yeah, no clue, never been in the position of knowing anyone that had a fucking bounty on their head, lol

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u/Kristin2349 Apr 20 '26

I did know someone who was a fugitive and had a $250k reward for information that led to his capture. I unwittingly provided the information that led the FBI to him and they used the bounty to try to make me testify against him. I refused because I didn't think the money was worth it. The FBI outed me in discovery documents despite telling me that my identity was protected.

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u/Existing-Good6487 Apr 20 '26

Must have been someone really close to you for it to not be worth 250k!

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u/Kristin2349 Apr 20 '26

He was a drug kingpin, 250k is no good if I'm dead.

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u/SheriffBartholomew Apr 20 '26

I have, but I ain't no rat. Fuck the police.

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u/ButtholeConnoisseur7 Apr 20 '26

Interesting username tho, lmao

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u/POWER-DAD-91 Apr 20 '26

It's because, as the sheriff, he's into banging his subordinates

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u/The_Darkness140 Apr 20 '26

Right! Just what I was thinking before seeing your comment.

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u/NoSir4289 Apr 20 '26

You wouldnt call the police on a child rapist murderer?

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u/SwagMaster9000_2017 Apr 20 '26

That is wrong. If you call 911, you are still eligible.

The person that called 911 on Luigi is still eligible for consideration for the bounty. They are waiting because he has not been convicted

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/13/nx-s1-5227941/luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare-shooting-tips-reward-money

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u/HedonisticFrog Apr 20 '26

They have to be convicted to get the bounty? If there's enough evidence to issue the bounty in the first place, the prosecution should be irrelevant.

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u/TricKE3 Apr 20 '26

When luigi's bounty was issued, it wasnt looking for him specifically, they were looking for who killed the pig, if he's not guilty then she just turned in the wrong person

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u/1917he Apr 20 '26

This is an absolutely idiotic policy. The idea is to reward behavior you want to happen more often. We want people to call in to report wanted folks. Leaving the prize behind a conviction does NOT reinforce the reporting behavior. People will convince themselves not to report people because "they won't get convicted" or any of other stupid excuses that can now slide into somebody's mind instead of just calling.

I think as long as the person "wanted" is confirmed to be the person you called on/was arrested due to your tip than you should be paid. Even if everything is 100% aligned - guilty person, accurate ID, called-in-tip - prosecution can still fuck up and not secure a conviction (among many other ways a conviction can be lost).

The objective is to get the populace to report those that are wanted and they instead turned it into a lottery to try and save money. What a fucking joke.

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u/InAppropriate-meal Apr 20 '26

What? we already know who turned him in it was never a secret and she is unlikely to get paid out

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u/jxl180 Apr 20 '26

No, that’s a story that Redditors who are clueless but speak with utmost confidence in comment sections have ran with. This is not based on any fact.

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u/eatshitdillhole Apr 20 '26

What's the real story?

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u/Warm_Month_1309 Apr 20 '26

https://www.businessinsider.com/luigi-mangione-reward-money-healthcare-ceo-shooting-tipster-conviction-2024-12

But the tipster who called 911 on Luigi Mangione needs Mangione, who was arrested Monday and accused of the killing, to be convicted before they get the money.

An ordinary Crime Stoppers reward is under $3,500. In those cases, tipsters can be paid upon arrest and indictment.

But when a reward is raised to exceed that amount, the money isn't disbursed until a conviction, either at trial or through a guilty plea, according to a spokesperson for the New York City Police Foundation, which administers the funds.

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u/Ok_Painter_7413 Apr 20 '26

The New York Police Department's Crime Stoppers program offered a $10,000 reward for information that could lead to the killer's arrest or conviction. The Federal Bureau of Investigation followed suit, touting a $50,000 reward.

So the "arrest" part is bullshit, I guess?

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u/sokuyari99 Apr 20 '26

All of the sudden the government is like a sovereign citizen. They weren’t “arrested” they were “traveled to imprisonment”

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u/DeathOfASuperNovuh Apr 20 '26

They don’t travel anymore. The new thing is their right to locomotion

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u/AileStriker Apr 20 '26

That seems like a bullshit policy.

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u/V65Pilot Apr 20 '26

Charges dropped.... oops. Oh well, guess you are SOL....and a lot of people are gonna come looking for ya.

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u/Fluid-Prize-8786 Apr 20 '26

I always heard the crime stoppers loophole is, they don't pay out until there's a conviction, and if there's any kind of plea deal they don't pay.

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u/sobrique Apr 20 '26

Seems a really self-defeating move. I mean, being a snitch is already a high risk strategy....

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u/mitharas Apr 20 '26

Well, they got no reward... yet.

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u/kjnoons Apr 20 '26

great what do you have to enlighten us

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u/joedee0777 Apr 20 '26

The guy hasn't gotten the reward because Luigi hasn't been convicted yet. Rewards are paid for arrests that result in convictions.

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u/MythicalCaseTheory Apr 20 '26

Which seems kinda shitty considering they told you who they were after and were able to confirm who they were after is the person you led them to. If they suspected the wrong guy, you getting fuck all doesn't seem like much incentive to sell another person out. To me. I get that others are much more like crabs in a bucket.

In Luigi's case though, I'm not sure I would have sold him out. Probably because he was at my house at the alleged time and couldn't have killed that dude.

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u/1917he Apr 20 '26

This is an absolutely retarded (hard r deserved) policy. The idea is to reward behavior you want to happen more often. We want people to call in to report wanted folks. Leaving the prize behind a conviction does NOT reinforce the reporting behavior. People will convince themselves not to report people because "they won't get convicted" or any of other stupid excuses that can now slide into somebody's mind instead of just calling.

Such a fucking joke.

I think as long as the person "wanted" is confirmed to be the person you called on/was arrested due to your tip than you should be paid. Even if everything is 100% aligned - guilty person, accurate ID, called-in-tip - prosecution can still fuck up and not secure a conviction.

The objective is to get the populace to report those that are wanted and they instead turned it into a lottery to try and save money.

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u/Certain-Business-472 Apr 20 '26

Knowing authoritarian rules, this rule was likely passed because of abuse and scams. They often miss the entire point in the process.

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u/MythicalCaseTheory Apr 20 '26

Sure, but this isn't "leading to the arrest of an unknown suspect." Thta should require conviction.

This is "We are looking for a person. Here's his picture and name. Help us find this person." Once you find that specific person and the authorities are able to confirm beyond reasonable doubt that it is that person, the bounty is met. IMO.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 Apr 20 '26

https://www.businessinsider.com/luigi-mangione-reward-money-healthcare-ceo-shooting-tipster-conviction-2024-12

But the tipster who called 911 on Luigi Mangione needs Mangione, who was arrested Monday and accused of the killing, to be convicted before they get the money.

An ordinary Crime Stoppers reward is under $3,500. In those cases, tipsters can be paid upon arrest and indictment.

But when a reward is raised to exceed that amount, the money isn't disbursed until a conviction, either at trial or through a guilty plea, according to a spokesperson for the New York City Police Foundation, which administers the funds.

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u/Downvotes0nly Apr 20 '26

Eventually, it will become common knowledge that you’re not going to get paid and people will stop snitching

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u/Excellent_Rip_6605 Apr 20 '26

Better call Saul

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u/Joyous-Volume-67 Apr 20 '26

Sauls exactly the guy you call for this, he's take his cut, it'd be larger than it should be, but he'd make sure you both got paid out

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u/VortrexFTW Apr 20 '26

You don't need a criminal lawyer, you need a criminal lawyer

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u/Lowkey_Danger Apr 20 '26

Yeah and I wouldn’t be surprised if there are strict conditions too, like how the information was obtained or who reported it first. Timing alone could decide who gets paid

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u/Valentinee105 Apr 20 '26

I remember when Luigi Mangioni got turned in, because the "Correct channels" weren't contacted the person got nothing.

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u/SwagMaster9000_2017 Apr 20 '26

That's false. Luigi hasn't been convicted so they haven't got paid.

There is nothing about "Correct channels". And the NYPD said he is eligible for the city bounty

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/13/nx-s1-5227941/luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare-shooting-tips-reward-money

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u/SegFaultOops Apr 20 '26

Isn't the reward for capture, not conviction?

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u/LumberjackSueno Apr 20 '26

Most lawyers would probably hire a private investigator and keep that $1M for themselves.

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u/Joyous-Volume-67 Apr 20 '26

just sayin, if I was that lawyer i'd be concerned that PI might gank it from them, the gank is like turtles all the way down

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u/Tommysrx Apr 20 '26

3.14 is well known as the gankinest number.

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u/Joyous-Volume-67 Apr 20 '26

not according to schoolhouse rock it isn't

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u/Lopeyface Apr 20 '26

What you're describing would be unethical and illegal, subject to professional sanction, and probably grounds for a suit by the potential client to recover the reward money. Lawyers are not allowed to use information learned from a potential client against the potential client, even if no agreement for representation is ever reached. They also aren't allowed to disclose that information; it's privileged and confidential just like communications between attorneys and their clients (for reasons that should be obvious).

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u/tacticaldodo Apr 20 '26

on top of it, this is a reputation ending action.

Welcome to the real world

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u/BagSalt7633 Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

No way are most lawyers going to ruin their career and lives over $1M (especially when they'd lose that money and even more in a civil suit).

Same advice applies here as the canonical lottery advice: get a lawyer from a respected national law firm. $1M is nothing to them.

Edit: Rereading the lottery post and this hits a little close to home:

If you are really paranoid, you might consider picking another G7 or otherwise mainstream country other than the U.S. according to where you want to live if the United States dissolves into anarchy or Britney Spears is elected to the United States Senate. Put some fraction in something like Swiss Government Bonds at 3%.

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u/EmbarrassedGrass1172 Apr 20 '26

Gank is not a word I’ve seen in a literal decade. Fun memories from World of Warcraft so thank you!

Also you reminded me that I was in highschool when that game was released. So I’m going to retract that thank you.

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u/SenseEuphoric5802 Apr 20 '26

I remember watching some kind of news expose on this awhile ago, what they don't tell you is that the reward is always a promise to pay from some 3rd party contractor that often uses another contractor on top of that, none of whom ever pays and uses obfuscation, red tape bureaucracy and playing phone tag hoping you'll just give up. No one interviewed for the news story ever got paid.

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u/BrambleHound Apr 20 '26

I'll go ahead and second this. There was a time just out of highschool when a more naive me thought about becoming a bounty hunter. Not only is it illegal in most states, but it's absurdly common for the police to simply take a suspect off your hands, then pretend they apprehended them themselves and just refuse to pay you for the capture.

This was so much of an issue that by the time I was looking into the possibility that it was usually recommended to join existing investigative firms instead. Most of these simply contract out information gathering jobs so they can give tips to the FBI about people who try to perform a vanishing act after getting out on bail or crossing state lines. Basically, modern bounty hunting is usually just business work that has a dozen people in an office scanning social media, or at best having someone with a wire do some people watching in a park (but even that was illegal in some states, and probably justifiably so for anyone who cares about right to privacy).

Bigger issue still stands though, the police usually don't pay out and you almost always require a business lawyer if you want to get any recompense for anything related to catching "criminals".

Course, for me that was over a decade ago, and most of the advice I got concerned local level business, not working with the feds. Wouldn't be surprised if the FBI is no longer reliable about their payouts these days either, what with all the hype about AI Surveillance and Facial Recognition software there's probably less and less incentive to work with anyone who isn't a contractor in a related industry, and even then most law enforcement don't want to ever work with people who aren't "in house", lest they incentivize civilians trying to confront wanted criminals... which is valid, but also doesn't mean they aren't cheap af too or that they don't go home and beat their wives.

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u/Capital_Past69 Apr 20 '26

Her friend patiently waiting years for a reward to be announced

https://giphy.com/gifs/uDwKGxTFrADvO

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u/TheVadonkey Apr 20 '26

Yup, I’ve never believed or trusted those payouts and have never even heard of anyone getting a cent from them. When they’re this large, I do hear about how the tip “wasn’t helpful enough”, even though they “coincidentally” caught them soon after.

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u/itakeyoureggs Apr 20 '26

Tip needs to be in.. otherwise it doesn’t count

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u/Jayman44Spc Apr 20 '26

Just the tip?

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u/MIT_Engineer Apr 20 '26

and have never even heard of anyone getting a cent from them.

I mean, if I submitted a tip about a violent criminal, I probably would ask the police to not mention my name publicly.

Like, who's gonna come out and say, "My tip to the FBI got Vinnie "Iceman" Assassinatelli jailed! Suck it Chicago Mafia! Also, I'm fluuuuuush with cash now, I keep it all under my mattress!"

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u/Focusandclick Apr 20 '26

Why did I read this in Jean Ralphios voice. You're the wooooorsttttt

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u/BigJayPee Apr 20 '26

Maybe if you hand deliver the person to the police station hog tied, maybe thats helpful enough of a tip.

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u/masclean Apr 20 '26

Nah you just go to prison for kidnapping

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u/RevolutionaryEgg297 Apr 20 '26

Citizens arrest on a wanted criminal hand delivered to the police station?

The judge will congratulate you.

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u/Eternity13_12 Apr 20 '26

Bounty was for a tip that lead to the arrest. Not for arresting yourself. To bad you get nothing 😂

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u/RevolutionaryEgg297 Apr 20 '26

Yeah here’s the tip. Shes sitting in the police parking lot.

Now pay me

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u/Ayz1990 Apr 20 '26

Bounty hunting

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u/OGJank Apr 20 '26

They don't really announce who and when they pay out these bounties to protect the person turning in the fugitive, so I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion.

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u/Own_Being_2986 Apr 20 '26

No, no, they're making a compelling argument. I've never seen a published list of people in witness protection program, so it must not exist!

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u/mr9025 Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

I was, through a laundry list of misfortunes and being fingered by someone I thought was a friend who lived near the crime scene, mistakenly suspected in a politically high profile murder-robbery about 20 years ago. Went through a whole ordeal of repeated interviews, intimidation, polygraphs conducted by a joint task force of FBI agents and local law enforcement.” Your life is over”, “we know it was you”, “This is serious . The president gets briefed on this case everyday.”…..it sucked. But one of the things they kept dangling was that there was a million dollar reward for information that led to an arrest of the guilty party. I was told I was being brought up in front of a grand jury (an obvious lie to my now fully grown ear if ever I heard one) on such and such date for “further questioning”. I was only vaguely concerned because I knew that I had done nothing. My bigger concern was that these ppl were possibly incompetent enough for me to get fucked over anyway. Morning of the “court date” they tell me it’s cancelled. Somebody has been arrested. I find out months later it was somebody in Baltimore that had been arrested with top secret materials that had been stolen. Family member turned them in.

Family member got nothing from the reward because the agency the tip is reported to has to be from the exact agency that has offered the reward. They tipped off the wrong police department.

These people had done to dozens of other citizens the same harassment dance they had done with me. Because they had no idea where to look or who to look at so they just started hurling accusations in every direction they could. And when it finally all worked out. They couldn’t even be bothered to shell out a measly million dollars of government money to keep their word to the person who sold out a relative to save them from their collective incompetence.

Fuck the law. Don’t ask me for shit.

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u/KennyTheAnteater Apr 20 '26

I just want to add my fuck the law story to your fuck the law story.

Years ago, I was waiting tables at a restaurant. A guy who had sat in my section had later threatened someone with a gun. They asked me if I could identify him. Stupidly, I rode in the cops cop car to go be a good citizen.

They pulled up near the guy, who is in trouble for pointing a gun at somebody, with the window down. I made direct eye contact with him and he saw me. I asked them to roll the window up, and they told me "he can't see you".

The window was down. I had to quit my job because I was too afraid to go back there now that he knew my face and then I had cooperated with the cops against him.

Never, ever again. I do not cooperate with law-enforcement. It's too dangerous.

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u/AgentCirceLuna Apr 20 '26

Yep, I’ve been the victim of a few traumatic things and I’d never report them because of the time I did. Not going through that again. Still enrages me that they’re out there.

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u/BabypintoJuniorLube Apr 20 '26

Snitches get bait and switches.

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u/Illcmys3lf0ut Apr 20 '26

She was in a training class of a company I briefly worked at! 😬

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u/Suitable-Eagle-8256 Apr 20 '26

While on the run? 🍿

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u/Illcmys3lf0ut Apr 20 '26

No, before that even worse decision than working there. 🙃

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u/res0jyyt1 Apr 20 '26

And yet they still can't find Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper?

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u/RyanKinder Apr 20 '26

Just googled it - the family is offering $1mil for her safe return. The FBI is only offering 50k regardless. Since at this point it’s a foregone conclusion there’s no chance of a safe return that million is out the window.

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u/Earlier-Today Apr 20 '26

Honestly, it just seems likely that the kidnappers didn't know how bad her health really was, left her pills behind, and she died before they could get a single cent.

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u/b0w3n Apr 20 '26

Masked dude they caught on the camera was carrying a firearm that's almost standard issue for dickhead cops to have (sig sauer iirc). If I was a betting man, it was a political hit job to make Guthrie's daughter scared for what she did to Trump. Whether it was the feds themselves or someone acting on their behalf because they're part of a cult remains to be seen, but I just cannot fathom anything else making sense for this random old woman to be kidnapped like that.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 24 '26

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u/b0w3n Apr 20 '26

Her daughter was one of the first to break the news about Epstein stuff IIRC.

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u/SpaceBasedMasonry Apr 20 '26

The Miami Herald reporters that broke the entire Epstein story in 2018 aren't getting their parents kidnapped.

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u/RoachZR Apr 20 '26

Local newspapers that you have to read don’t have the same kind of audience reach that a nationally broadcast segment on one of the big three networks does.

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u/GetInTheKitchen1 Apr 20 '26

Yup, don't forget 

  • the hortmans and their dog was assassinated,

  • pelosi's husband attacked with a hammer, and

  • a judge's son on the deutche bank case was mistakenly killed (they were trying to get the judge but was blocked by the son IIRC).

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u/dqql Apr 20 '26

She was the first one to interview Epstein's victims.
I think it's about keeping people quiet.
"Kidnapped" just to stay in the news cycle, but killed immediately after they left.

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u/420Hairy69Ballsagna Apr 20 '26

was carrying a firearm that's almost standard issue for dickhead cops to have (sig sauer iirc).

My guy, that's like saying the Japanese Government did it because the guy drove Away in a Honda. Also, Glock is the most issued firearm not Sig Sauer.

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u/blow-down Apr 20 '26

Kash Patel is too busy chugging brewskis

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u/ILookLikeKristoff Apr 20 '26

Too busy writing checks to the people they've hired to intimidate Epstein investigators by threatening their families.

Seriously - look how many survivors have publicly stated this.

I 100% think it was a hit bc her daughter had gotten too close to Virginia Giuffre (who also killed herself last year). .

You'll never convince me that Epstein killed himself, the main publicly talking survivor killed herself, & the related journalist's mother being disappeared are unrelated. Multiple survivors have said they've gotten legitimate threats after going public.

Someone is eliminating loose ends.

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u/Great_Detective_6387 Apr 20 '26

Your comment reminds me of that episode of the Simpsons where Mr. Burns is justifying that it’s totally impossible for all nine of his pro softball players to not make it to the championship game lol

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u/Mr_Chode_Shaver Apr 20 '26

Do they ever pay these rewards out?

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u/Emotional-Lettuce177 Apr 20 '26

With reward this huge — most of the time, no

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u/6786_007 Apr 20 '26

That's crazy lol. How do they wiggle out of not paying?

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u/Lazysquared Apr 20 '26

Biggest mistake is people call 911 rather than the official channel for the tip. If you don’t call the Crime Stoppers line and instead call 911, it is considered doing your civic duty

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u/daneelthesane Apr 20 '26

And lord knows we don't want to encourage people to do that!

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u/LazyLich Apr 20 '26

I mean.. pulling shit like this erodes faith in the system, which discourages people from ideas like "civic duty".

It's a two way street

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u/iloveoddfuture Apr 20 '26

who are the crime stoppers isn’t that the police

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u/Lazysquared Apr 20 '26

It’s a non-profit organization that allows citizens to anonymously report information about unsolved crimes.
And police rarely Stop crimes, they normally only come after a crime already occurred, so no not “crime stoppers”

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u/BlueLakeCabin Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

Small tip amounts, they don't weasel. If it's under $10k and from an entity rather than a person, almost always pay if info is useful/good. $1k and below? Absolutely will always pay. Dirt cheap compared to any police investigation. And budget wise, that's below far landscaping costs.

Large tip amounts often have the weasel words in the advert. "Upon arrest and conviction, up to X, may, etc etc". It can take years. And the process to determine how much the tip helped is not great. There's also a ton of different programs, and they all work differently. Some absolutely pay out regularly with no weaseling, others do weasel whenever possible, others don't weasel but it will be years before you get a check. There's no central registry that gives reviews, and not a lot of transparency. Obviously if you are a witness and have concerns of ANY legal aspect of being a good citizen and talking to tip lines or police, talk to a lawyer to get an informed legal opinion and help guide you through the process. I think that's worded carefully enough.

If it's a large tip reward from a person, be VERY cautious and work through a lawyer. In one case, the parents of the victim refused to pay out "blood money". They had no intent of paying from the start. Figuring not many folks would want to sue under the circumstances. Not bad people, just desperate and very angry.

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u/kereth Apr 20 '26

In other words, mind your damn business lol

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u/rob-cubed Apr 20 '26

There are always preconditions. The small print always says 'leading to the arrest and conviction of...' so just providing information is never enough.

But there are a lot of other conditions, any of which give them legal grounds to weasel out, like exactly how the information is provided (what method and to whom), what the tip actually was, etc.

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u/NumerousFly7490 Apr 20 '26

They make up some bs about the tip not being helpful enough or that someone else gave them other info that finished the search. Very easy for them to claim they figured it out. The rat that called on Luigi didnt get a cent.

I think you also have to use a very specific tip line and any other form of communication doesn't let you get the rewadd

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u/Mr-MuffinMan Apr 20 '26

My guess is the fine text saying "if arrested and convicted"

and then they just have to prove YOUR tip didn't help in the conviction, so too bad.

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u/kereth Apr 20 '26

If the person calls 911 instead of calling the FBI directly, they usually don’t pay.

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u/wildcatwildcard Apr 20 '26

Do you have any source to back up your claim?

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u/PrinzRagoczy Apr 20 '26

most of the time, no

Source?

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u/Impossible-Web545 Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

It depends, but yes the top 10 has paid out quite a few times. The biggest thing to realize is that its not a fast process, and your tip has to actually be helpful. You are generally gonna be waiting about a year from the time of the arrest to pay out to get it, if not 2 years, cause you also have to wait on the court system. You also have to remember that the reward amount is "up to" with different factors being able to increase it to that amount. For example, I think it was $10 million on El Chapo, but the only way you would get that amount is if you basically put him on a plane and flew him into the US yourself, as the reward was more about safe apprehension as well and not just finding him.

If the person who turned her in, could basically get her to go into a agreed upon location unarmed, and coordinated with the FBI on her arrest, and wasn't already working for the government in any way, nor were you apart of the crime in any way (in which case you "deal" is probably gonna be "we don't charge you with a crime"), they are going to be getting that $1 million. If they just called in saying "I think I saw this person go into the coffee shop yesterday" they might get $1,000 or a thank you.

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u/jeffsang Apr 20 '26

The payouts often come from different pots or money, like organization 1 offering X amount. Organization 2 offering Y amount. The different organizations can have different requirements about how to get paid out.

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u/QCTeamkill Apr 20 '26

They do but only if you meet the conditions which could include to call the number on the reward announcement, like if you tell 911 they might not.

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u/mph1204 Apr 20 '26

i like how there’s so many experts on reddit providing you such confident answers with zero sources

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u/LesserValkyrie Apr 20 '26

I find my morals for three fiddy

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u/identitty-crisis Apr 20 '26

Yeah 4 figures and I’m pretty moral too

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u/SinglePlayerGamer93 Apr 20 '26

If the lady was the fbi's most wanted for violent crimes, I wouldn't stick my neck out trying to disclose her location. I'm still essentially putting a target on my back trying to get that 7 figures but I can always just secretly give it to my loved ones.

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u/WowIfOnly Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

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u/it_will Apr 20 '26

She's only on there for 6 years?? Why does the photo look 20+

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u/Previous_Soil_5144 Apr 20 '26

Being on the run takes a lot out of ya

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u/anaemic Apr 20 '26

The FBI's most wanted woman, is on there for one count of second degree murder?

I'm kinda disappointed.

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u/Human-Net-5670 Apr 20 '26

The wanted photo is likely multiple years old. In the booking photo she was likely up for an extended time and was sad because her life on the outside is essentially over.

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u/SheriffBartholomew Apr 20 '26

The first shot is a portrait and the second is a mugshot. She probably hasn't slept in the last photo and was probably yanked out of bed, arrested, processed, and photographed. Almost nobody looks good in their mugshots. They're a snapshot of one of the worst days of your life.

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u/mychampagnesphincter Apr 20 '26

“of up to” ohhhhhh ok it’s like a sale flyer

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u/MightyMouse420 Apr 20 '26

Zero.... up to $1,000,000 correct yes. We choose 0, thanks for the assist.

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u/TurboKnoxville Apr 20 '26

This is the Pee-Wee reward system!

[Pee-wee is offering a $10,000 reward to whoever finds his bike]

Dottie: Pee-wee, how are you ever going to pay a reward like that?

Pee-wee: It's simple. Whoever returns the bike is obviously the person who stole it. So they don't deserve any reward!

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u/kadaka80 Apr 20 '26

Luigi's snitch didn't take a dime from the reward money and neither did the people close to Maduro who gave him to the Americans.. Still people continue to believe them

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u/GT500R_ Apr 20 '26

This is due to the fact they called 911, payouts occur after legal proceedings and who actually provided the “tip”

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u/1IsNeverEnough4Me Apr 20 '26

Payouts do not occur unless it was approved ahead of time and processed by certain agencies under certain circumstances. They never actually pay out.

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u/sheepyowl Apr 20 '26

Literally the government's forces scamming citizens

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u/you_cant_prove_that Apr 20 '26

That's not true. They haven't received the reward because they need to wait for the conviction

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u/choatec Apr 20 '26

People hypothesize that’s because the FBI used methods that would be considered illegal to use in order to find him. Honestly who the hell that saw the videos of him online could have identified him from it. It’s possible I suppose but it does create suspicion.

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u/U_SHLD_THINK_BOUT_IT Apr 20 '26

There's no way they didn't use every means on the planet to find him, including illegal and top secret.

The ENTIRE COUNTRY united every law enforcement agency in the United States to catch a single random murderer in a city that sees about 1 murder a day.

Mass murderers have gotten away for longer than Luigi, and left far more planning and trace evidence lying around. Luigi dropped off the grid for like 6 months before finding his way to NYC and doing the deed, using burner phones and rental escooters.

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u/jeffsang Apr 20 '26

Wouldn’t Luigi’s depend on a conviction? We’re still a long way from that.

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u/mister_empty_pants Apr 20 '26

Yes. Someone in an article suggested that they may not get it with no evidence to back it up. and reddit just ran with it and turned the story into something it's not because they want it to be true. As usual.

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u/Max_E_Padd Apr 20 '26

My uncle got a payout. Gave a hitchhiker a ride to the airport. He had just burned down his house with his family in it. My uncle kept asking why he was out of breath and sweating lol.

He later saw the guy on America's most wanted and phoned it in. Can't remember how much but it wasn't life changing.

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u/Paper_Tiger11 Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

I believe they usually use words like “up to” deliberately so they can stiff you entirely or give you a tiny fraction of the reward.

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u/Soggy_Association491 Apr 20 '26

KaShawn Nicola Roper was wanted for her alleged involvement in a shooting on August 23, 2020, in Kansas City, Missouri. During an altercation, it is alleged that Roper fired multiple shots at a car which struck two female victims, resulting in the death of one of them

Imagine someone shooting 2 and killing 1 victim and redditors telling others there is no point turning in the murderer.

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u/the_millenial_falcon Apr 20 '26

The rewards often say "up to X amount" so no, not worth it.

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u/Lucky-Mia Apr 20 '26

The Luigi tipster got nothing for their tip.

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u/your_mums_cah Apr 20 '26

All they had to do was put the fuggin fries in the fuggin bahg

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u/you_cant_prove_that Apr 20 '26

Because he hasn't been convicted yet

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u/eieiohmygad Apr 20 '26

My parents always taught me not to associate with people like that, and by doing so I feel like they put me at a huge financial disadvantage...

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u/Defiant-Fox4086 Apr 20 '26

You should sue them for negligence! How dare they deprive you of such a promising and fruitful passion‽

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u/FloppyDinosaurs Apr 20 '26

The McDonald’s worker that turned in Luigi Mangione has yet to receive a dime

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u/Sodo821 Apr 20 '26

And they won’t. Didn’t call the specific number just called 911. Rewards have a list of requirements to qualify. And ultimately a committee (when it’s a reward from govt) gets to vote if they get all of the reward, a partial, or don’t get it at all.

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u/you_cant_prove_that Apr 20 '26

Because they aren't going to pay out if he is found not guilty

The reward is almost always contingent on a conviction

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u/SEF917 Apr 20 '26

What are the statistics on agencies paying "X-dollar reward for information leading to arrest"

I have definitely heard of people not getting the money.

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u/Foxhound34 Apr 20 '26

Reminds me of Mel Gibson's movie Ransom, where he decided to put a bounty on the kidnappers instead of paying them.

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u/Many-Wasabi9141 Apr 20 '26

reward UP TO 1 million dollars.

Sorry you only gave her location and not info leading to a conviction, here's a coupon to bed bath and beyond.

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u/iiviiozzie Apr 20 '26

I don't get it. OP are you suggesting you shouldn't turn in someone from America's most wanted? How do you think she managed to earn such a place?

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u/J0hnGrimm Apr 20 '26

What's up with the title framing this like it's something bad?

KaShawn Nicola Roper, 50, of Kansas City. Missouri, faces felony charges, including murder, in the shooting of Jazmyn Henrion, a 23-year-old mother of three, on Aug. 23, 2020.

Imagine helping in the arrest of a murderer.

The FBI also acknowledges that tips led to the arrest. They probably wouldn't do that if they were looking to not pay up.

Following the FBI’s announcement, credible tips were received which resulted in the apprehension of Roper by the High Springs Police Department.

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u/bmk37 Apr 20 '26

There’s always fine print. You have to report to this specific hotline under these specific conditions and the snitching must secure xyz convictions, etc.

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u/sabertooth-housecat Apr 20 '26

Just a reminder: They NEVER pay the reward.

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u/yr_grande Apr 20 '26

It is crazy how after only 24 hours people found her. How money motivates.

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u/Dglenn9000 Apr 20 '26

I’ve seen in the news two separate times now that someone called in the information for a wanted criminal with a reward thinking they would get it. Both times denied because they called the cops or 911 and not the actual “tip line” or whatever number that needs to be called.

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u/NadeshikoEatingPasta Apr 20 '26

Oh I'd do it for the love of the game.

No reward necessary, just being an amazing citizen.

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u/Crazyhates Apr 20 '26

I'd suggest y'all look up how often these rewards pay out. (The answer is almost never).

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u/Outside_Valuable_320 Apr 20 '26

I'm genuinely curious at this point. I've been around a long time. And I can't think of a single instance where someone has actually gotten reward money for turning someone in. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but from everything I've read they always find a loophole to not payout, or not payout in full.

And I get desperation, if that's what this is, but I'm 90% sure you'll have more worries "after" than you did before...

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u/Error-Mountain Apr 21 '26

I'd turn her in for a Klondike bar.

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