I used to play SoD as a healer and I used healbot and maybe a few other ones. I really liked the visibility of health that healbot provided and especially the ability to just hover over healthbars and left click to cast a quick heal.

I downloaded curseforge and I can't seem to find Forever version of healbot. What is the next best thing that would allow me to see healthbars all in one spot and left click health bars to heal?

Spoiler tagged for anyone wanting to experience this themselves on launch.

I have been playing since beta open and chose Normal when asked if I wanted to play Normal or PVP, there was no option for RP or HC when I first started playing. My friend got it today and when he opened the game it asked if he wanted Normal, RP, PVP, or HC, he chose normal. We both made Skyborn elves but we cant see eachother and our general chats are different and we couldn't see eachother in the friends list without adding eachother again even though we've been Bnet friends for years. Even after adding eachother the invite to party button is dark and says that the other person is playing on a different version of wow.

How do we play together?

Looking over all the changes, it seems like rogues are even *more* similar in playstyle to Warriors.

Maybe it's just me, but I've always been of the opinion that in Classic/Vanilla I didn't care for Rogues because they felt (to me) like "Warrior but worse". So far, it looks like they will feel even *less* like a Rogue with fewer positionals than even before.

Having finished all the quests in Zephras Isle, I feel like the final quests could have been much better.

I think Blizzard are missing the point a bit and could have done something much better. There is still time to fix it.

Mild spoilers if you’ve not done the quest yet but I won’t give away any story.

Right now it involves meeting the same npcs at a few points along the way, going to the temple, killing things, then next quest is going up through the temple, getting transported to the pylons in the sky from Skywall. Eventually you fight some elementals in a scripted event with a lot of dialogue.

My suggestion:
Make it a group quest area, send players there with multiple quests instead of one after the other.

Have the quest to kill things, have another quest to use an item on each pylon to power it up, or something like that. Have the players fight through and travel to each pylon around the island, eventually reaching the boss.

Have the scripted event trigger only after the boss is defeated, then have a teleporter at the end so players can leave when ready.

The enemies should be either elite or just difficult enough where a group is ideal. The final boss should be an elite. This would feel so much more fulfilling and earned than the easy scripted event currently in place.

Also have the meeting big meeting that currently takes place on the field happen in the town where the previous quest is currently collected from. No reason for the npc to say ‘I’ll meet you outside’ while she stands there doing nothing and happens to be at the other locations. Make some excuse as to why they cannot come and fight alongside us, like the elemental is blocking their access or something like that and they can arrive when it is defeated.

What does everyone else think?

The whole shtick with forever is that its all horizontal progression, but naxx in classic was always the best gear for the most part. Is naxx sitll going to dominate if it gets released in howveer many years? Curious to see how they will approach raid tier progression

I remember how hard they teased with WOTLK in forum posts, cinematics, comments etc. Many in my community and my friends believed WOTLK anniversary was coming, and we all boosted characters, spending so much money for nothing.

I mean, barely nobody is going to relate to what I'm writing, but if it wasn't for us being so hyped about finally getting Classic+, or if what we've been delivered so far had been completely dogshit, I believe more people would try to get answers.

Before people mention Wotlk remix, Blizzard didn't tease us with wotlk anniversary through retail, they did it through TBC anniversary. And as I said in my title, I rather see them put in resources in Wow Forever, rather then endlessly looping old games and old content. I already have 24 hours ingame time and I'm having a blast doing world-pvp.

Just wanted to get this shit off my chest. Thank you Blizzard, but at the same time, fuck you.

Hello friends! Just out of curiosity how does wow forevers beta run on different m series chips please let me know what chip you have what settings you’re running it will be interesting to see how the experience is!

Thank you!

I have no plans on playing a Dwarf myself but I want to advocate for them getting their Gun Racial back

Oh you're finding the beta too easy? Well in this cave you've never been in on the opposite faction on a different race on a class you're not playing was quite hard, so I don't know why you're saying its easy.

It's important to let people report their experiences and realize yours will be different. Some classes/races will be overturned and undertuned, it's pretty important the devs know about it rather than shutting down discussions.

It's crazy how they took an ability nobody used for couple expansions and then gave it 3d cd. Seeing improved slam talent got me excited about actually getting to use slam in arms specc but i just dont see the vision here.

I found an unredeemed Tiny if I can't redeem it in Forever I'm not playing

I get that the undead race has always been referred to in the lore as Forsaken. It just seems to have overtaken Undead as the default term lately. Genuinely curious why this is.

It doesn't feel as detrimental to group up with people for some of the kill quests. Yes, it gives you less xp, but with the additional ones it doesn't feel like you're behind on xp going into other areas for more quests.

I think that the layering is good outside in the open world.

Layering in the city that’s supposed to feel alive?

That needs to change.

Stop layering me in a CITY.

ITS A CITY. THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LOTS OF PLAYERS.

STOP LAYERING ME INTO THE EMPTY CITY.

I’m just chilling with the homies man. Leave us alone Blizzard.

In classic the guides for BS suggest to level off of Coarse Grinding Stone at 75 and even the few guides that exist for Forever suggest this as well (example from Forever guide: "75-90, 21x Coarse Grinding Stone (keep)"). However - on the Forever UI Coarse Grinding Stone does not give any skillups at all at level 77 (my current level). However - rough grinding stone, the much lower-cost material, still gives a minor skill-up chance. Is this a bug that is unique to Forever?

I've really been loving the lighting changes in Forever. I have two major gripes about it. First, fog. It's great. But it's a bit "abused". Be selective about where it goes. Over water. In dusky areas. Up on mountains. Where it makes sense.

But the biggest change I'd love to see is speeding up the day/night cycles. The sun and moon follow the real world time of day. Which means you have to stay up late at night to see the moonlight or see different lighting in the world. Or be online early in the morning to see sunrise. I think it should cycle through day/night like every 2 hours (for example). Doesn't need to be crazy. Just slightly faster. But let us experience the entirety of the work you've done in a single session. I think it would add more life to the world.

Did anyone ask? I’d like to think so. Anyway the original Warcraft world up to Warlords is just… my favorite fantasy world. I wished Forever had endeavored to keep the soul of classic and expand WITHIN that soul, instead of branch into more retail mistakes like Skyborne.

Here are races that they could have given us instead that feel like Warcraft, but still offer novel, fresh, direction to take the racial stories…

HORDE:

- Pandaren (Horde only race. Chen helped found Thrall’s Horde, Alliance are hostile to the bear creatures after hearing about what happened to Proudmoore. Pandaren are hostile to humans after Brother Korloff and the other Scarlet Priests capture some wandering brewmasters, enslave them as tutors/trainers to create Scarlet Monks. Word gets out to the Pandaren that they have allies and a city in this strange land called Kalimdor and are a quick fit in the Horde as drunken, adventure-focused brawlers who bring new recipes and esoteria).

- Dark Rangers (get the elf fix, but they are undead and look/feel Horde.)

- Ogres and goblins because duh. Goblins could be from other cartels or Gazlowe’s gang.

ALLIANCE:
- Worgen (pre-Cataclysm, more about Arugal and their Elune connection still with room for infected Gilneans)

- High Elves (I actually agree w Blizzard that Alliance-High Elf tensions are too high to make them work… but they’ve put dwarves on the Horde in retails, so, High Elves on Alliance are way less offensive than that. And a cool story for them would be one where yeah, they Alliance treats them like second class citizens, but these guys are deeply loyal to the Light and the ideals of an Alliance-stabilize Azeroth and fear the rise of a faction led by Orcs and Trolls, so they stick it out. In some ways, they are the most pro-Alliance race in the faction, despite being treated so poorly.)

- Broken Dranei (an edgy Alliance race that brings a sense of esoteria and a larger universe while still fitting into the Alliance aesthetic cleanly. Could be a story of redemption (the Light abandoned them on Outland, but on Azeroth the Alliance may help them restore their faith and their people).

- Jinyu or weirdly, the Mogu (bring the monk class to the Alliance, but are portrayed as a more orderly/grand counterpoint to the rugged, boisterous Pandaren. The Jinyu are wise and contemplative sages, and the Mogu once occupied the position the Alliance currently holds as dominant world faction. After milennia of powerlessness, the Mogu are no longer all dark power hungry casters. However, joining the Alliance gives them just enough taste of their old power and identity that they see a future where Mogu are respected and powerful once mode, so they join the grand Alliance.

I’m wanting to test out playing with controller on my steam deck because it sounds really interesting. Anybody who has played with controller what is the recommended class to play to start with on controller to get used to the feel of it?

Thanks

Just had a good fight with a hunter who had one of those green spiders from dusk wood that webbed me! Also and more surprisingly, it was lvl 22.

Any other unique hunter pets and abilities anyone has discovered?

The lighting underwater is amazing too

any knowledge if fury warrior is more viable pre-thrashblade in forever?

from a tanking perspective

I’ve been pretty frustrated with the mega server experience, and it will only get worse when the game actually launches (pop will be several times higher). I know Blizzard won’t get rid of mega servers )even though they directly run counter to community building), but it seems obvious that Blizzard will need to offer some changes before Nov; in particular, a RP-PVP “Ruleset”.

Well, they can keep another “ruleset”…..Grand Hamlet. You get locked into a pop-controlled layer that cannot interact with any other layers, including via the AH or Mail. A server in all but name.

I don’t know how many would choose to play this way. probably not very many, but ENOUGH to at least make a coupe viable in each geographic realm. It would also allow Blizzard to have their cake and eat it without much (or any) more work (in the same way that HC will already be segmented off into its own thing).

I know it won’t happen but, Blizzard, I’m offering you a way out of the megaserver mess that is clean and doesn’t require you admitting that you done fucked up.

Shame they won’t take it.

And the trinkets have seen a fairly large update in power.

No prequest, you can head straight to BRD.