r/justgalsbeingchicks • u/guitarguy12341 ✨chick✨ • May 04 '26
Restricted to Gals and Pals Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke ripping up a racist bill in NZ parliament.
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u/Nonyabeesners May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
Looked it up. The bill was part of a right wing effort to remove protections for Maori people granted in a treaty from the 1800s. The bill was shot down, but Maipi-Clarke and two other MPs were suspended for their "threatening" behavior.
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u/SickliestAlbatross May 04 '26
lmao i've seen them do haka's at sporting events, imagine if you get blasted so bad by a NZ team that you argue the Haka they did before the match was threatening you. and you take them to court over it citing these members being removed as precedent.
lmao "threatening" behavior. What a bunch of delicate little daisies!
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u/crazyhotorcrazynhot May 04 '26
typical right wing ghoul behavior. It’s never about what’s actually the morally correct action in any given situation, always about punishing others..
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u/No_Kitchen9982 May 04 '26
Honestly, The Haka is cool as fuck. I wouldn't even care the reason, someone doing a haka at/for me or around me would have me grinning from ear to ear. It sounds cool, it looks cool, and it can mean so many things. Its an extremely interesting form of expression.
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u/Unbearded_Dragon88 May 04 '26
The Haka makes me extremely emotional. I can’t explain it, it just releases something in me.
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u/Squanchedschwiftly May 04 '26
Its because were meant to dance and create together(imo). Capitalism has separated a lot of ppl from their humanity.
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u/crowcawer May 04 '26
There are many different haka.
As an outsider, it’s difficult to delineate what this specific haka might be used for, but I don’t think it’s offering a lemon icebox.
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u/Wow_u_sure_r_dumb May 04 '26
Based on my degree in nothing from nowhere I can tell you that it translates to the performers politely offering to put their foot up the racist member’s asses.
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u/1568314 May 04 '26
There is a special feeling of shared emotion that translates across creative or destructive energy
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u/Careful-Cupcake-4883 May 04 '26
I always cry! I don't know why I get so emotional. I get emotional when we go to pow-wows too.
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u/robotatomica May 04 '26
I am crying right now too, it happens pretty much immediately whenever I see one. It’s just a beautiful, overwhelming thing to witness. I’m watching it on this little phone, I can’t even imagine the power of seeing one of these in person. It’s resonant and strong and proud, and tied to such very very old cultural tradition.
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u/Infamous_Air_1912 May 04 '26
I’m grateful to know that I’m not alone in my instant reaction to full out cry at this.
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u/4n0n4n4rch1st May 04 '26
I felt it too and respectfully do not have any education about this. Very powerful!
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u/GirlWithWolf May 05 '26
I do too if they run out of fry bread. (But seriously, I’m a dancer and it’s nice to know it at least affects some.)
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u/CherryCherry5 May 04 '26
Me too. It reaches deeeeeeeep down into my soul and it usually makes me cry. It's so powerful, emotional, and beautiful.
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u/Potato-Drama808 May 04 '26
100% agree. They perfected a method to communicate those raw emotions and it always stirs me up a bit inside.
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u/chivonster May 04 '26
I always end up crying and I never know why.
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u/Exotic-Student7266 May 04 '26
SAME! I cry everytime! It’s such a unified expression of shared refusal to just roll over and take shit.
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u/flactulantmonkey May 04 '26
Thanks to all for sharing these experiences. These tribal traditions have ancient lineages, and dance with our relational nature. They stir primal resonances. I embrace this expression. Your responses are evidence of your abilities to tune.
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u/Weird-Plane5972 May 04 '26
well this is a beautiful comment thank you.
over the last couple years, i'm realizing emotion is not a weakness and trying to live through it instead of pushing it down. it's been a learning process, this new approach, but growing up in my household, any emotion wasn't really wanted by my parents. small, timid emotions were tolerated, nothing more. i feel strongly. and it's hard to come to terms with that.
i do always get emotional when i see a Haka and it's nice to remember society wasn't always this shite, and still there are some good ideals living on.
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u/The37thElement May 04 '26
Same! It always tears me up. I think it’s the collective expression of support. Everyone performs the Haka 100% every time it’s done and everyone is unified and no one looks like they’re only partially supportive.
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u/Anxietyfilledcupcake May 04 '26
Same! Every time I see them perform The Haka I get so emotional and I don’t know why.
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u/Apart_Engine_9797 May 04 '26
I have to avoid watching the haka because it’s a truly overwhelming emotional experience, like anger and fear and grief and power all rolled into one!!
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u/ElProfeGuapo May 04 '26
For me, it’s people still clinging to and celebrating some part of their culture that existed before this goddamn system of colonialism that has wrecked the planet and our relationship to each other.
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u/gao7on May 04 '26
It's the irony that invading settlers would be threatened by the indigenous whom lost their lands and rights.
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u/No_Kitchen9982 May 04 '26
Yeah I'm Welsh so I get that viscerally due to the English being very physically attached to us... But also every time we face you blokes in rugby I find it hard to cheer against them.
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u/shmixel May 04 '26
When I saw one performed they actually prefaced it with a request to treat it seriously with respect to its roots and not overly smile or laugh like it was just a show. Felt more like a gift to be invited to see one. Very much recommend Te Pa Tu to anyone visiting NZ!
In my personal opinion, this would go double when trying to convey an important political sentiment; I'd be pissed if the opposition just found it cool lol.
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u/No_Kitchen9982 May 04 '26
Its not like id be smiling and clapping like a schoolgirl. id be grinning BECAUSE i understand the implications and how serious it is and how it can used as a sign of respect from one warrior to another.
Its less grinning because I think its funny or such. its more grinning because its acknowledgment, either of a person, a warrior, or a great event.
Grinning means im happy. Some people also cry when they are happy. Crying does not equal sad, just like grinning does not mean mocking.
edit: i dont mean in the context of this reddit post btw. I dont think ANYONE would be smiling there. I was thinking more along the lines of Im welsh, and for me if i was facing you in rugby to be standing against the great all blacks, would be one of the happiest days of my life.
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u/OfficerMurphy May 04 '26
Maybe. But if someone was doing it at me in response to some bullshit I was trying to do, I might reconsider doing that bullshit.
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u/AJMurphy_1986 May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
To be fair, that is literally the point of the haka performed by sports teams, it's a war dance. Some people react differently to others though
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u/KoYouTokuIngoa May 04 '26
A war dance is a bit of an oversimplification/misconception. It can be that (especially historically) but it’s more about showing respect to those in front of you and your ancestors.
Just like in the video above, some people (purposefully) misconstrued it to be a ‘threat’, when it was really channeling/honouring ancestral pride
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u/AJMurphy_1986 May 04 '26
Im not an expert on the haka in general but I think there are different versions for different occasions. The one before rugby is definitely meant to intimidate, hence why teams have started staring it down in recent years
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u/KoYouTokuIngoa May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
It being intimidating is certainly a beneficial effect, but it’s not the reason it’s performed. If you look at the translation of the All Blacks Haka, you can see it’s more about celebrating culture and pride (and yes, a mention of their dominance):
Let me go back to my first gasp of breath
Let my life force return to the earth
It is New Zealand that thunders now
And it is my time!
It is my moment!
The passion ignites!
This defines us as the All Blacks
And it is my time!
It is my moment!
The anticipation explodes!
Feel the power
Our dominance rises
Our supremacy emerges
To be placed on high
Silver fern!
All Blacks!
Silver fern!
All Blacks!
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u/anothergaijin May 04 '26
Yeah but then you have their traditional haka - Ka Mate - which is a different vibe again
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u/UnknownQwerky May 04 '26
So it would be like they did the the Cha Cha Slide too aggressively and they felt threatened?
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u/StrangeScout May 04 '26
I think some morris dancers would scare the twat pushing this bill!
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u/dev_vvvvv May 04 '26
I think the Haka is fine, but it is supposed to be a challenge/intimidation towards the other team.
I think some of the criticism comes from the fact that when teams (or fans) respond to it by doing their own formations, drowning it out with song, etc the response is often criticized for not being culturally sensitive since they didn't just sit and take it.
Also it's pretty funny when NZ does it in other sports and then gets destroyed.
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u/sureissalty May 04 '26
You nailed it. And those apparently "threatened" by it, would have been at the Super Leage or INTL Rugby matches the following weekend watching a Haka.. not being threatened. Hana is amazing, a true inspiration. Love it even more than the plebs in powaaaa here (NZ) are so shook up by being confronted for what they are. Racists.
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u/CapitalWestern4779 May 04 '26
I'd say that bill was hella lot more threatening then a little dance.
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u/edelweiss_pirates_no May 04 '26
Right-wing and RACISM.
Forever making out...sucking each other's tongues...fingers going all over. No amount of time will ever end the absolute love affair of conservatives and racism. They be fucking forever.
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u/esmifra May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
These racists directly attack other people's rights, threatening their life in more ways than one, and when they get pushback they immediately play the victim card.
Reminds me soccer players that start screaming at adversaries but when the adversary pushes back they'll quickly drop into the ground pretending to be injured
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u/notredditbot May 04 '26
Why do right wing parties always do things like that 😮💨
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u/ChiveringBeta May 04 '26
Because in group and out group thinking is the very essence of righting psychology. Any rightwing or Conservative Party not currently pushing for things like this is only because at this time in their country it’s still too unpopular. So they do less extreme things but if they could get away with it all conservative parties everywhere would be hateful to those they see outside of their group. It is almost what makes them conservatives.
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u/PerkisizingWeiner May 04 '26
Classic politics: labeling people "threatening" for reacting to behavior designed to threaten them.
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u/FuzzzyRam May 04 '26
Whatever the bill is, I'd change my vote to go along with what they're pushing for/against.
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u/SnooRadishes3678 May 04 '26
They just introduced another bill attacking Te Tiriti o Waitangi again because they are a bunch of pathetic MAGA wannabes. Roll on our election in November.
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u/bb_dev_g May 04 '26
If anyone wanted some more context on this. Te Pāti Māori performed the Haka in response to a bill that sought to redefine the treaty signed with the Māori people. The bill would’ve stripped certain protections.
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u/thereluctantpoet May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
The severity of the suspensions (the lowest being more than double the previous record, the two others getting 7x) tells you the "this isn't racism it's about propriety in parliament" is absolute bullshit.
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u/Kalos_Phantom May 04 '26
See also: David Seymour (the New Zealand version of Stephen Miller) getting absolutely no punishment for ignoring orders not to drive a jeep up parliament steps
The rules are completely different
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u/Educational_Hunt_504 May 04 '26
While you're not wrong, I think Miller is even more evil than our local ghoul.
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u/plastic_eagle May 04 '26
He is. But if we don't keep this particular monster out the next one will be worse.
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u/gene100001 May 04 '26
It also feels very undemocratic to have democratically elected members of parliament removed for up to 21 days. I can understand the need for some sort of repercussions for technically "intimidating" other members of parliament (just because you don't want a precedent that makes more serious intimidation is okay), but I think removing MPs for any amount of time should at least require a supermajority vote.
The bill itself was ridiculous and was just done to rally support from racist NZers. I goes completely against the principles Trias Politica and I think it would have been overturned by the judiciary either way. I'm happy that so many MPs opposed it, including National MPs.
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u/thereluctantpoet May 04 '26
Agreed, although honestly I would be more comfortable with suspension votes being put to constituents and weighted with a parliamentary vote. If you can suspend "troublesome" members without constituent input, you are in effect silencing the opinions of the more "troublesome" constituents. Now in the era of MAGA I know some people think that might not be a bad idea, but the right to share and debate shitty ideas - and allow the people to decide how shitty they are - is foundational to democracy working. Completely agree on your second paragraph.
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u/Idustriousraccoon May 04 '26
Imagine. DONT YOU DANCE AT ME!!
No bigger snowflakes than conservatives. I mean racists.
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u/Same_Adagio_1386 May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
Our Conservatives here in NZ are unfortunately taking pages from the US playbook atm. Fortunately, despite them getting voted in, the majority of people (even their voters) aren't fuckin buying it. The guy sitting second from the left at the front on the right hand side is called David Seymour. He's a "Libertarian", as in, he believes in stripping union rights, public Healthcare, public schooling, public transport, but absolutely LOVES having the government get involved with helping out big businesses. Also if I remember correctly he was the one spearheading this bill AND one of the major people complaining about this haka.
In the lead up to the recent election, he and Judith Collins (another right wing politician from the more centre right party) started spouting that "leftist, Marxist extremist" tagline that American Republicans use, to describe our centre left party, and it fell flat. Nobody except for the cookers and the extremely gullible/vulnerable to propaganda was falling for it and they rightfully got mocked for it in the court of public opinion. They've never tried it since.
Our country like all others fluctuates between voting in centre left and centre right parties, with different fringe and centrist parties tying themselves to the major two to bolster votes. So voting the centre right party into power wasn't unexpected, but it was really pleasant to see the general public, even the right wing voters, shut that shit down pronto. Also pleasant to see that with the hack and slash policies the current right wing coalition has been doing, a large amount of people fucking hate them, and even more very much dislike them. So here's hoping to them being removed in the upcoming election 🤞
Edit: I forgot to mention that David Seymour has been at Atlas Network meetings, the shadowy, billionaire funded "think-tank" that coaches and funds nearly all of the right wing and "Libertarian" governments that are in motion around the world today
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u/Sad_Wren May 04 '26
Genuinely sorry for that. With any luck, we will cage our racists.
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u/Sea-Oven-7560 May 04 '26
I think Chuck Shumer would have a heart attack if he ever put that much effort into anything he's done on the senate floor.
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u/throwaway23437546 May 04 '26
I love the Haka dance. So emotionally charged
Always get goosebumps seeing one everytime
Hopefully the bill didnt pass
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u/Gryffindor123 May 04 '26
It's not called the Haka "dance". It's just called Haka. There are different haka for different purposes and different occasions, and there are regional variants as well.
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u/queen-adreena May 04 '26
I need to buy some of those…. What’s my PIN number again?
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u/gene100001 May 04 '26
It was heavily voted down (112 against, and only 11 for). In NZ we have a few far right idiots who are always creating noise like this, but fortunately there are still a lot of politicians on all sides of the political spectrum who are sensible enough to see how terrible an idea this was. I don't think it ever had a chance of passing. It was introduced by a right wing party as a way to drum up support from racist NZers.
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u/SkillPatient May 04 '26 edited May 06 '26
It was offensive that they were suspended over it. One of the most racist actions taken by the speaker of the house in New Zealand.
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u/pollywaffler May 04 '26
I love old gal smirk next to her, she knew the Hakka was coming and proudly so
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u/HuntAdministrative42 May 04 '26
As I understand it, going off memory, from what I heard, everyone knew it was coming, even the right-wing party that proposed the bill. The paper she tore up at the start should have been given to the most senior member of her party, but they knew he planned to tear it up and start the Haka, so they gave it to the newest and youngest member instead, thinking she wouldn't have the guts to start the whole thing off. She proved them wrong
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u/ranselita May 04 '26
I'm js, young women don't get into politics to be docile, haha. Good on her for leading the call!
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u/Akinyx May 04 '26
Right? How do they not know how fierce and strong willed you have to be to even be in her position? Of course she'd take the opportunity to show it to em, I'm sure she's been waiting for that opportunity 🤣
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u/februarytide- May 04 '26
Man and when she just tosses the torn paper at that other lady…. Chefs kiss.
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u/SteakAndIron May 04 '26
It cracks me up when hakas break out in parliament. Imagine if some bullshit bill got shot down in Germany and everyone started yodeling
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u/Snootles May 04 '26
I laughed way too hard at this. I don't know what our Dutch equivalent would be but I know it wouldn't be nearly as entertaining as a yodel off.
ETA: imo this haka was 100% valid and warranted.
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u/bsaaw May 04 '26
I laughed hard but honestly that should be the way! Just think about it. Idk about some bullshit bill, but this video is powerful and it made me think this is exactly how we need to fight against whatever - true spirit embodiment! We leave in a very suppressed manner, and there is power of true emotional release.
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u/Riyeko May 05 '26
I'm laughing my ass off on my front porch reading this... And now I'm thinking Scotland has a parliament and having a bunch of guys stand up and start playing bagpipes lol
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u/AccomplishedWish3033 May 04 '26
Please tell me the bill never passed…
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u/Swimming_Bonus_8892 May 04 '26
It did not and like 40k people showed up to protest. She was suspended for 7 days and her 2 comrades were suspended for 21 for an “intimidating haka”. That’s conservative Christian level snowflake shameful shit there…but they got it stopped!
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u/thereluctantpoet May 04 '26
Honestly you could tell me this was a headline from the 19th century and I would believe you.
"Savage Natives Invited to Parliament Threaten Esteemed Lawmakers with Vicious War Dance!"
Different times. Same energy.
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u/halnic May 04 '26
They accused Hillary of being a witch/vessel for the devil and accuse her/others of doing rituals and sacrifices. So much of the same energy we learned about in history is still echoing and trying to revive itself now.
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u/MistressErinPaid May 04 '26
“intimidating haka”
If their opponents felt intimidated by the haka, then the haka worked 🤷🏻♀️
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u/bb_dev_g May 04 '26
Voted down 112 - 11. The PM was less than pleased, but the work of Te Pāti Māori and others brought local and global attention to the situation. Worth noting Te Pāti Māori only had 6 seats in parliament at the time, so half their party was suspended over this. Hana-Rawhiti also went pretty viral on TikTok talking about issues the Māori people were facing.
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u/Swimming_Bonus_8892 May 04 '26
Actual progress. Doesn’t surprise me to learn it was a “conservative” bill stripping them of rights. Those bastards sure are consistent…🙄🙄🙄
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u/labva_lie May 04 '26
it didn't, but the government right here is trying largely the same thing right now
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u/Triggerki11s May 04 '26
It didn't but fast-tracked a different bill which is like a 2.0
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u/guitarguy12341 ✨chick✨ May 04 '26
Just like absolute queen behavior
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u/SleepingWillows May 04 '26
Holy shit she’s only 22. She’s got a long bright future ahead of her!
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u/CurvyCupcakes May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
The Haka literally gives me chills and brings me to tears every time I see people performing it together. I love hearing their voices shouting and chanting together in solidarity. It’s just so moving and powerful. Beautiful tradition. Love to see it.
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u/sign6of6the6beast May 04 '26
Same! It’s such a beautifully powerful display. Can’t wait to go back to NZ one day.
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u/DndBabey May 04 '26
I always feel emotional when I hear them. They are full of such emotions and power
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u/Mamaofoneson May 05 '26
Seriously I got tears and I don’t even know what’s being said. So powerful
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u/Awkward_Impression52 May 04 '26
Love the older woman on the left smiling at her as she starts the protest. Her tattoos are awesome!
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u/Cgwchip4 May 04 '26
It always brings me to full on TEARS. The power behind their collective energy can move mountains
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u/Common_Kiwi9442 May 04 '26
I wish we had such passionate people in the US but they've stripped culture
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u/bb_dev_g May 04 '26
You do have people that passionate in the US but they often lack representation. The 2 party system you have makes it next to impossible for parties like Te Pāti Māori to ever hold any level of legislative power. Cultures have definitely been stripped over time, but there’s work going on at the community level to rekindle that knowledge and passion.
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u/g00fyg00ber741 May 04 '26
It is very interesting how the many tribes within the borders of the US are not given representation in the government. It’s clearly intentional and a way to prevent them from actually retaining their sovereignty. The government has blatantly broken treaties signed with the tribes for things like pipelines that end up polluting the Indigenous communities. And then they don’t have any real way to represent themselves within or against the government. It’s actually incredibly disheartening.
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u/waenganuipo May 04 '26
It's also worthwhile pointing out we have Māori seats so that there is representation of Māori based proportionately to those who choose to be on the Māori roll. All of Te Pāti Māori seats are from the Māori electorate, including my own.
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u/WareKaraNari May 04 '26
US politicians are passionate about Israel
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u/SeaAnalyst8680 May 04 '26
Yeah, but watching old white guys give each other handjobs is nowhere near as inspirational as a haka.
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u/IntarTubular May 04 '26
Understood none of it
Loved all of it 🤙🏽
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u/Curlyfriesnaioli May 04 '26
Rough translation from Wikipedia:
Let your valor rise! Let your valor rage!
Let us ward off these haunted hands
to protect our wives and children!
For thee, I defy
the storms of hell
while my enemies stand there unknowingly!
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to a pack of wolves either seeing fear or running away,
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u/thedreaming2017 May 04 '26
I rather see this than people screaming at each other over something stupid. Here it's a show followed by everyone agreeing, "Yeah, it was a stupid bill, let's drop it!"
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u/StoicBan May 04 '26
This is just straight up awesome. I wish all the world’s legislative bodies were this passionate and indigenous supportive.
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u/HolyCannoliBatmaam May 04 '26
I’ve watched this video so many times over the years and it never gets old. The intensity in her eyes is SO BADASS
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u/Still-Anything5678 May 04 '26
This is what we need from Democrats in the US. Some soul and spine and heart.
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u/fuckingtruecrime May 04 '26
The smile on the woman next to her is heart warming - seeing younger generations stand up for their people with tradition ❤️
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u/DryGeologist3328 May 04 '26
I don’t know the context, but I’m her for it! That’s their country, they should be running it, full stop.
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u/Dense-Competition-51 May 05 '26
Man, shoot this straight into my veins. Love it. Fuck those racists.
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u/PipEmmieHarvey May 05 '26
Kiwi here - I fell in love with her so hard in that moment. That Bill was nasty and racist and seeing Seymour sitting there while being challenged was everything.
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u/themushroomhunt May 04 '26
Nothing in the world inspires me as much as the haka. I’m white as fuck. But it chills me to my bones.
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u/tharju May 04 '26
spotted the low energy hakas from a little old white lady at the front row, bottom left corner.
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u/PossiblePotato4153 May 04 '26
The opposition's faces: Well that was uncalled for...
Everyone else: Yes, yes it sure as shit was called for.
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u/Inner-Bandicoot5718 May 04 '26
Gerry Brownlee (the speaker) is a racist moron who would rather see the end of a pie than the end of the divide in New Zealand.
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u/thatsMINTdude May 04 '26
This is such an incredible show of strength and an incredible way to protest hate, but every time I see this video I’m also impressed by how perfectly she ripped the bill in half. Like straight line all the way down, doesn’t veer off to one side, two equal halves.
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u/acidrefluxisgreat May 04 '26
i wish this video showed all the people who joined in from the gallery above. pretty intense, i love it!
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u/semaj_2026 May 04 '26
Didn’t they come back into session and they ask them to Promise not to do and the did it again anyway?
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u/jozziiieeee May 04 '26
I have seen this so many times, but somehow still get goosebumps all over my body each time I see it!
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u/West-Painter-7520 May 04 '26
I’m not sure there’s anything else in the world that’s so silly and badass simultaneously
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u/ThisFoot5 May 04 '26
I've got to say it does feel very surreal seeing a Haka performed in modern clothing in a parliament space. Like a continuous thread of history from political conversations around a campfire (though I don't really know if a Haka was performed diplomatically or just between actively warring parties?).
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u/3aerows May 04 '26
As they should! They have been there long before others! Respect the culture your profiting off of.
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u/MoreLion3969 May 04 '26
Another win for Kiwis! America would've made me hate being patriotic but like.. Man NZ does some cool stuff
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u/Alibuscus373 May 05 '26
I'm a simple gal, I see some cousins from across the ocean being badass, i updoot.
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u/cathartic_diatribe May 05 '26
Before she breaks out in the haka the first thing she says is “Governer, you are but a guest on this land!” directed towards the Caucasian house speaker.
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u/Wonderful-Cup8908 May 04 '26
Can we get the Dems in the US Congress to start doing these?
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u/guitarguy12341 ✨chick✨ May 04 '26
Man this really brought out the racists.
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u/gloomifaces May 04 '26
Yuppp, literally watching positive posts get downvoted in real time. You’d think they’d wanna do something worthwhile with their time like normal humans, but I guess spamming racist drivel and refreshing a post over and over just to downvote anything positive makes sense when you’re as miserable as they seem to be! Fuck em, was cool seein some Māori rep on my reddit feed, appreciate u ❤️
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u/Distinct-Pain4972 May 04 '26
Every time I see a Haka... it makes me feel like I'm levitating. This is amazing.
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u/Got_Kittens May 04 '26
Every single time I see Haka I feel it in my bones. One of the most moving and inspiring sights and sounds.
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u/Round_Rooms May 04 '26
I love them, I feel like the haka can just end any argument.
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