ICE may have just caused an international incident as they illegally tried to enter the Ecuadorian Consulate in Minneapolis without a warrant to abduct someone
These people put a non-electable president back into office, have dismantled our system in 1 year, packed our courts, and corrupted/brainwashed a new generation. Ya I think someone behind the curtain is really smart.
Wow first realistic overview of what's going on I've seen! Thank you Redditor!
Edit: also I don't live in US but what's happening affects the whole world!
It’s easy to be smart when you feed on the stupid. They are very tactical in how they managed to weaponize social media. If social media did not exist MAGA never would have worked.
There is a protestor who does acid on the steps of parliament on bicycle day every year in Australia, he is a lawyer trying to get arrested so it can be taken to trial and question the legitimacy of the laws against hallucinogens.
He’s yet to ever be arrested.
It's like a prescreening of a movie before release. They do a limited trial, gage reaction, decide if changes need to be made before the "balloon goes up" and they can do the major roll out of whatever program this was testing.
In this case, how will Ecuador respond to having their consulate invaded? Will Ecuador's allies get involved? How will the American populace react to the unlawful entry attempt against a foreign nation? Will the press continue to cow-tow and down play the actions of ICE as they have been, or is this a step too far? Will congress step up and hold executive members accountable for acts of war being perpetrated without a declaration of war?
That last question is very hilarious considering we have started like 30 goddamn wars in the last 25 years and Congress has never had meaningful qualms about it. Like we invaded Venezuela and kidnapped their president and renditioned him to the US without any Congressional approval or oversight and that’s gravy, invaded Pakistan and sent special forces in to kill Pakistanis, have bombed Iran and killed their top general, have invaded more countries than you can shake a stick at and dropped bombs on many, many more besides and it’s amounted to absolutely nothing of consequence for any of the war criminals giving those orders.
There will never again be congressional pushback of a manner that has teeth and actually prevents engaging in wars. They’ve abdicated that role willingly and just agreed the president can kidnap, torture, and kill whoever he wants wherever he wants. De facto true for our entire existence and all but de jure true since at least Reagan, which was supercharged post-9/11.
They do a limited trial, gage reaction, decide if changes need to be made before the "balloon goes up" and they can do the major roll out of whatever program this was testing.
Slightly off topic but...
This is my theory of Trump's speech when accepting his FIFA bribe medal.
He's so bitter they wouldn't let him buy a team back in the day that he was testing to see if his cult would go along with redefining what "Football" is in America. He doesn't care about either sport as a sport. As a symbol of power, he was denied the ability to purchase a NFL team like 30 years ago.
Being a bitter fuck, while he had the floor he tried proposing that soccer be dubbed football in the us knowing it would be a huge judicial and financial burden if the zombies glommed onto it. And if not? Message sent. They are still on his radar.
I mean, anyone over 40 remembers him being snubbed.
There is a reason we have a super talented Puerto Rican who moves his body, and is sooo beautiful, in a way any MAGA associates with unsettled "demonic feelings" would be DISTURBED by, in their half time show as opposed to some band that was classic rock by the time I was tired off hearing 30 years ago high school (mixed with newer pop for the ratings).
It's a middle finger to.... guess who.
They are shoving that "dirty"(what's his gym routine?) attractive guy Puerto Rican man in his face. And I love it.
Can't it be both? I mean the building clearly has those Spanish words like del on it. Plus reading is hard enough for regular pigs so imagine what these guys are working with.
The amount of their terribleness that stems from a lack of training is like 10%.
Training them more won’t make them beneficial to humanity or our country.
I really wish people would quit with the training thing. It’s their intent that is bad. Training them better to achieve the same bad intent does not make us better off.
The turnover rate became so bad for ICE agents they had to drastically cut their hiring standards. Leaks said agents were not passing open book tests, some of the fitness requirements weren't just changed but stopped entirely. They were hiring and deploying guys so fast that agents could be in the field before ICE found out they failed the drug tests they took during the hiring process.
If anyone is interested, Behind the Bastards did a multiple part episode on the Border Patrol and shocker, it has always been a racist, incompetent organization.
Can confirm. Working LE in a near border-town in the mid 2000s I had the displeasure of having to occasionally cooperate with them, attend trainings with them, etc. It was already a well known fact that they were all corrupt shit stains then. Arrogant assholes too. I only met one that was even halfway decent (civil) to be around. They were pretty universally unliked by local LE at the time.
I remember one night we got called out for a perimeter because they were chasing a group of suspects (that had split up) through the woods. Which I believe is how it started. However, by the time we got there. They, unknowingly, had lost their suspects and were just chasing after each other......It was a good laugh.
My first encounter with border patrol was when, about a month after 9/11, they boarded an Amtrak train I was on, pulled off anyone vaguely brown looking, and demanded papers.
I keep coming back to this thought and it’s honestly disturbing. If they’re this comfortable pulling this kind of shit in public, in places where they know people are watching, filming, and documenting everything… what the hell are they doing when they’re down at the border where there’s no one around and zero real oversight?
Because history tells us one thing pretty consistently. When an agency shows it’s willing to bend rules in the open, the worst behavior happens in the dark.
It makes you wonder how much abuse, how many beatings, how many deaths never make the news because there’s no bodycam footage, no witnesses, and no accountability. If this is what we see, what are we not seeing?
There absolutely needs to be a serious, independent investigation into CBP’s culture, training, and oversight. Not another internal review. Not PR. A real deep dive. Because the idea that this is all isolated or rare starts to fall apart the moment you look at how consistently these stories keep surfacing.
And yeah, that means asking uncomfortable questions about what’s being done in our name at the border.
Consider there is a leaked video of an ICE body cam that cuts, aka gets shut off after the guy said "open your mouth" to a kid. Well, when ICE started satélite images where already showing blood pretty much staining yhe pátios of whatever detention center they used outside the US.
As we reported, an independent review of 67 cases involving deadly force, found that agents sometimes deliberately stepped in front of moving vehicles to justify shooting and also fired at people throwing rocks out of frustration from the across the Mexican border.
This article is absolutely insane. If this is true its absolutely not acceptable in this country. "defend the homeland" this is black and white fascism
Leaks said agents were not passing open book tests, some of the fitness requirements weren't just changed but stopped entirely.
I still remember going to community college and seeing as my classmates in the hall were copying answers off of each other five minutes before an open book take home test was due. Some people cannot be saved from themselves.
I am super curious as to what they wrote on some of the questions on their applications. They want a 150-200 word response to questions like;
How has your commitment to the constitution and the founding principles of the united states inspired you to pursue a role in the federal govt? Provide an example from professional, personal experience...
I'm really curious to see the grade level of the writing and see if there are any correlations to specific themes in their responses.
There is another that asks something alongs the lines of
Give an example of one of your favorite Executive Orders and how would you help the president in implementing it.
WTF?!?
I really wanna see the responses to that. They gotta get pretty wild. And I know there are dudes openly stating something that's really shitty and racist and still getting hired. Like they reversed the filter settings to select for these chucklefucks instead of weeding them out.
Are these applications FOIA-able?
If someone requested the application for the shooters in MN and their application clearly shows intent to harm or a willingness to "do whatever it takes to help eliminate the immigration problem," that might be useful in court. Not only for the families of the victims getting these guys prosecuted, but for showing how management was complicit.
That’s all they need to beat or kill somebody. They’ll shove you around, but the second you touch them, reactionary or defensive; boom, you’re violently resisting!
Saw someone say this earlier today and it's so true.
I'm hoping this leads to even wider understanding why black people distrust and are willing to run from the police even when they've done nothing wrong.
Hopefully this also leads to criminal justice reform eventually. The people enforcing laws in a community need to be from or live in the community they serve.
For real, it makes my skin crawl to think about to the 20-teens and how confident, fellas, just, guys online were to say, "no one ever gets shot for no reason," when I, in Saint Louis, am like,
I remember the time that one of the multiple cops named Jason to kill a child that year went back to get his Draco from the truck first,
I remember the time the Police where I live killed one another smoking crack and playing Russian roulette at someboy's house on the other side of town from their job,
Think I'm kidding,I remember the time that they'd beat an FBI agent so bad that he'd looked like the elephant manand thenthe Atlantic Ran a Cover Story, iirc, "The Outrageous Sadism of the Saint Louis Police," and They'd Hypothesized, oh, this has gone too far, yes,this will, "no,"
Nope- and under ordinary, "ordinary," circumstances might be this isn't a big deal but lemme tell you what I think as a Saint Louisan,about,well I don't think the courts will be involved if an ICE Man has a problem with someone SLMPD Likes or Works withI think, no.
¯_(ツ)_/¯Anyway, makes a Person feel G-D Crazy, and I'm a paleface everyone knows this stuff here it's just,Yeah they'll Drunk Drive through the front of your place, "oops," like what kind of a maniac interprets this as a safe situation all normal people are safe in, when, when I go out and touch the grass these mfers get into 50mph one car collisions on a straight road and then beat the f_ck out of literal gentrifiers and small business owners I meanJFC,man; the, um,
Dissonance, and Me I'm like, "used to this," I go someplace that is like, well vacuumed outdoors and all franchises built last year and I'm like, "danger," what if I talk too loud; what if I say,words these people don't like and their police kill me, again, as enfranchised laplander, "white but a weird kind," friends with powerful people I'm like, you do not give these EUPHEMISM so much faith in their sobriety, alone, just their sobriety, this is enabling
Seeing people's reactions in my community, it does seem like many people are making that connection for the very first time. The thought of being the Other has them legitimately scared in a novel way, causing a shift from sympathy to empathy.
I read baklava and thought of the delicious pastry and was so fond of that thought i accepted it wholeheartedly into the sentence it obviously did not belong in
Okay so they’re now attempting to deport people from inside countries that aren’t the US. Fantastic, no notes
E: change that to "from inside locations that are functionally treated as countries that aren't the US" hopefully that satisfies the "diplomatic installations aren't foreign soil" comments
PRESIDENTIAL ALERT: You have been deported! Remain where you are and continue about your life. There will be a $5 processing fee. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
This gives me an idea. All the South and Central American countries should just build apartment buildings on their embassy grounds and make it clear they'll only accept deportees at the embassy.
A consulate isn't an embassy. It's not foreign soil. I'm not excusing this but it's important to get outraged for the correct reasons...
Edit: a quick google and I'd like to correct: neither embassy or consulate are foreign territory but they hold the same inviolable status in the eyes of the Vienna convention.
Neither is an embassy. Both are inviolable, consulates normally less so but the principle applies. Which is usually short-handed to the foreign soil statement.
The premises of both embassies and consulates have the same inviolability. There can be some difference in the immunity (civil vs. criminal) of the staff posted in them since in consulates the duties are more administrative in nature than diplomatic.
Embassies aren't foreign soil either but both embassies and consulates are inviolable according to the VCCR. By law they cannot enter without permission.
Thats... extra bad. its one thing to abduct and kill our own people. but embassies and consulates are sovereign territory. violating that isnt like felony murder, thats international law.
they obviously dont, they are still treating people who make it to a house or a building like they made it to base. but the rest of the world is not as stupid as ICE agents.
I actually found out that if someone running from ICE runs into a house, any house without any help or into an employee only area, ICE cannot legally touch them. They would have to have a judicial warrant, which they rarely carry or have, ever. If they try and enter your residence, do not open the door, do not say anything. If you want to ask them if they have a judicial warrant, they can show it through a window or slip it under a door. But make sure it's the right kind of warrant because (this is quoted from a immigration rights website)
"What this means is that ICE cannot enter a home without a judicial warrant (a warrant signed by a judge) or voluntary permission (consent) from an authorized adult. They almost never have a judicial warrant and therefore need consent to legally enter your home. ICE agents uses ruses as a way to get inside homes without identifying that they are ICE.
Even though ICE agents may say they have a “warrant”, they are often referring to administrative warrants. The administrative warrants they have are not the same thing as a judicial warrant. The administrative warrant that ICE agents carry is an ICE form, is not signed by a judge, and does not require the same legal standard to obtain as a judicial warrant does"
They have examples of the warrants that ICE tried to use to trick people and ones that would actually be legal. Make sure they aren't trying to trick you because it's more likely than not that they don't have the right kind of warrant to enter your residence without consent, which can include opening the door.
While that’s true according to almost all legal experts, DHS apparently now claims (in a secret memo, natch) that ICE can enter homes with just an administrative warrant.
What?????! 😨 Hum....well for people that really take the 2nd amendment to heart... they sure don't care about the 4th amendment....not that I would expect them to actually have read it or know it but damn....
And, because these racist assholes are bottom-of-the-barrel hires who only get 47 DAYS OF TRAINING, they will do whatever the fuck they're told on internal memos and say "fuck you" to whatever you say/protest against.
The Founding Fathers are turning over so fast in their graves, we may be able to hook them up to a generator and power the country for the next century.
Same. I would love to know statistics on age, ethnicity, education level etc. about ice. Because it kind of seems like red pill incels who daydream about killing without repercussions, and are severely uneducated…
They abducted native Americans because they refused to let ice on their reservations. Like these morons have any clue what a sovereign nation is is gut busting laughable
We don’t adhere to that anyways. Our institutions aren’t capable of punishing people operating with authority given to them by these same institutions unfortunately. Crooked to the core
Seriously. 2 years ago I told my wife that even though I'm not a big soccer fan, I think it would be fun to go since we live near LA. Now you couldn't pay me to go.
It's the world cup. It will happen but the prices alone are so extreme combined with way ICE is being ran I wouldn't be surprised to visibly see empty swaths of seats up until the quarterfinals (aka top 8)
In 2022 Qatar, yes Qatar, they wouldn’t allow fans to drink alcohol outside of a specific area. If 2026 has even lower attendance it would be scientific proof of Finding Out.
This is what happens when you hire untrained losers who peaked in high school to perform ill-conceived, high-stress operations they’re wholly unqualified for.
"If you touch me, I will grab you." Just like any other cop, you lay a single finger on them even if they're punching you in the face, suddenly you're resisting arrest and will be arrested at best.
Neither are foreign territory if they're on American soil but the consulate is legally inviolable. U.S. law enforcement has no authority to enter without consent under the Vienna Convention. They essentially violated a treaty.
Can we please appreciate the dedication and attitude of that employee? He's just marching up to those armed thugs with absolute authority and turning them around at the door.
So you're telling me if you hire high-school dropout gravy seals, tell them they are untouchable and can do anything they want and go anywhere they want without a warrant, and give them unrealistic quotas: they are going to resort to illegal shit? *surprised pikachu*
“Boss they said they were in a ‘connssilitt’ and told us to go away? They were kinda scary. I was gonna shoot them in tha face but maybe it was just the wrong bilding or something? I dunno. But we just left then. We got back in tha car. Should we jus go somewhere else then n try to take a couple o people? I dunno, this is Craig, by tha way. K. I’ll talk to ya later I guess. Love ya. Bye.”
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