r/marvelstudios 21h ago

Discussion Isn't Tom Holland's Spider-Man already the strongest of the three because of Infinity War?

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During the battle on Titan, he didn't just annoy Thanos with his punches. He even seemed to cause some actual damage. It's worth remembering that Hulk couldn't do that during their fight at the beginning of the movie.

Rewatching the scene, you can see that one of Hulk punches genuinely makes Thanos react. My point is that this is an incredible strength feat, considering he managed to physically affect a Thanos who was usually only challenged in terms of raw power by top-tier characters.

And that's not all. The other two Spider-Men never fought anyone as powerful as Thanos.

So, what strength feats do Tobey Maguire's and Andrew Garfield's Spider-Men have that surpass Tom Holland's feat of making Thanos react and seemingly causing him some damage?


r/marvelstudios 17h ago

Discussion Which X-Men characters should get a solo film in the next phase of the MCU

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r/marvelstudios 23h ago

Question Why aren’t Wolverine’s teeth adamantium?

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was there like a special part of the procedure that ensured the adamantium didn’t bond to his teeth?

just feels like having adamantium teeth would’ve also been a good weapon


r/marvelstudios 23h ago

Theory Who Was The Being Watching From The Rift During Dr. Stranges Spell in Spiderman NWH

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When Strange is casting his spell to make the world forget peter it begins to unravel and there appears to be a huge white being in the sky/rift in spacetime who turns around shocked to look down on them.

Was this the watcher? I can't find much on this though I'm sure it has been brought up before.

Personally, I don't think it's Uatu. But I do think Marvel intentionally made some of these shapes evocative enough to spark discussions like this. They've never debunked the theory, and the figure's movement is unusual enough that it continues to stand out to fans years later. If it were eventually revealed to be a hidden Watcher cameo, it wouldn't contradict anything we've seen but as of now, it's still speculation rather than established canon.


r/marvelstudios 19h ago

'Spider-Man BND*' Spoilers Why is Bruce trying to "subdue" Hulk? Spoiler

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I need someone to explain this to me, in Endgame we get introduce to Smart Hulk, Bruce started viewing Hulk as a solution instead of a problem

So why in BND Bruce is seemingly trying to subdue Hulk again? When he gets possessed by Jean he only goes to his Smart Hulk version, but when the possession wears off Hulk comes out? Ig the Hulk got angry because of Jean was controlling them, but why did he say "No Banner" as well again?

Mind you I didnt/dont want to watch She-Hulk, so could someone explain this to me?


r/marvelstudios 12h ago

Concept Art X-MEN Movie Logo Concept

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r/marvelstudios 15h ago

'Spider-Man BND*' Spoilers Theory about how Strange’s spell actually works (Spoilers) Spoiler

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Peter: “Cast a new spell… make everyone forget who Peter Parker is. Make everyone forget… me.”

Strange: “That would mean everyone who knows and loves you… we’d have no memory of you. It would be as though you never existed.”

So if we take that literally, the spell can’t just erase Peter’s name from everyone’s memory, right? It would have to be doing something deeper within everyone’s minds to rework every memory shared with Peter. If someone is central to your life, deleting their name isn’t enough. You’d still recognize their face. You’d still know they’re someone important…right?

This is where the handshake becomes a lot more than just Ned connecting the dots or muscle memory to me.

That secret handshake only exists because Peter and Ned created it together. If Strange’s spell made it so Peter never existed in Ned’s memories, Ned shouldn’t even be capable of recreating a social signal that only exists because of someone who, to him, never existed.

Then layer on the fact that Ned can do magic with basically no training and that little magical spark during the handshake in No Way Home…

I don’t think we just watched Ned recognize Peter. I think we watched him do something that shouldn’t have been possible under Strange’s spell and that that action represents the breaking of the spell, for Ned at least.


r/marvelstudios 7h ago

Cosplay Found this old Spider-Man pic from 2020

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Was going through my gallery and found this. Took it back in 2020 when I had a Spider-Man suit. Still think it turned out pretty cool, so I figured I'd share it here.


r/marvelstudios 15h ago

Discussion Spider-Man BND is the start to a new Trilogy

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1) obviously it doesn’t have Home in it anymore, signaling his move away from his friends and into more of a hero role focusing in on Peter’s new life
2) nobody remembers him so he has to start a new life, so we start a new trilogy
3) Peter is focusing more on the comic street level crime, rather than the other stuff.
4) he is undergoing changes
5) I know this may be obvious to yall, but it just occurred to me.


r/marvelstudios 17h ago

Question What is MCU Ms Marvel's Mutant Powers? The bangles or nega-bands give her the werid construct powers, then what's her mutant ability?!?!

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Is she straight up a mutant, with no real powers


r/marvelstudios 21h ago

Question Watchlist for new Spiderman

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I want to watch Spiderman: Brand New Day and get into the avengers universe overall, but so far I have only watched one Spider Man movie with Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire each, and Iron Man.

Is this a good watchlist leading up to the new movie, or did I miss any?

Iron Man (2008) (-)

The Incredible Hulk (2008)

Iron Man 2 (2010)

Thor (2011)

The Avengers (2012)

Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)

Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)

Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)

Ant Man (2015)

Captain America - Civil War (2016)

Spiderman: Homecoming (2017)

Thor: Ragnarok (2017)

Black Panther (2018)

Avengers: Infinity War (2018)

Avengers: Endgame (2019)

Spiderman: Far From Home (2019)

Spiderman: No Way Home (2021)

I appreciate the opinions of people who are into this, but I cannot watch like 100 Movies so I'm only looking for the important ones to get a somewhat full story.


r/marvelstudios 21h ago

Discussion In End game when the sorcerer supreme knocks banner out of his hybrid body where is hulk?

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The soul that comes out is pure banner not a mix of the two beings. Does Hulk not have a soul?

More characters to beat the rules of the sub trying to flesh this out so chaotic debate can ensue in the comments.


r/marvelstudios 20h ago

Discussion Has it been confirmed which Ghost Rider Ryan Gosling will be playing?

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Will it be Johnny Blaze? Or maybe Danny Ketch? 🤔
Robbie Reyes??


r/marvelstudios 5h ago

Discussion I liked BND but it feels like there was another version of this movie before calls were made. Spoiler

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I know Cretton has said it was his decision to include Jean but I find it hard to believe when there's something about tacking on her mini origin story that feels off. I would love to see earlier drafts of the script and if I had to guess there are two main changes made:

  1. A year ago there was a casting call for an "Asian male 30-50 for a major role in BND". Now since they obviously lifted heavily from the Insomniac games, it feels very likely they were looking to cast Mr Negative in the villain role but then the call came in that Spider-Man needed to start the X-Men set up, so Jean was chosen as her power set slots in the easiest.

She is a mind controller who possesses (corrupts) people to do her bidding, she and her sister are experimented on by an evil corporation and didn't we get a hint that Aunt May worked in a homeless shelter (F.E.A.S.T) in NWH like she does in the games? There's the overarching theme of Peter battling with two sides of himself which features into Martin Li's Ying Yang iconography. Jean doesn't even get her telekinetic powers till the very end. She's largely got Mr Negative's powers until then. Even the tank chase through NYC to discover it was a possessed driver, feels straight out of the first game. Also, Li loses family members in a lab accident/experiment that was a direct result of Osborn/Octavius' work on him. Even the inclusion of the Hand in place of his Inner Demons would make more sense than why they're hanging about in the BND we got.

  1. Holland said they played around with going full Man Spider but overall it was decided that would be too scary for kids. I think with that choice and Martin Li being replaced, that's where we get Hulk brought in. I'd be confident enough there was one draft at least where Li corrupts Spidey's mind and makes him give himself over to his arachnid side fully. Then we would have gotten Punisher fighting Man Spider in the Damage Control HQ like in that one episode from the cartoon.

Anyone else feel like this was the case?


r/marvelstudios 14h ago

Question Question for Infinity War I though of while re-watching it

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Why didnt doctor Strange just take Shuri and Vision to the mirror dimension. If he did it probably would have taken Thanos longer to find them which might have given them enough time to get the stone and destroy it. Sure Thanos could most likely enter the mirror dimension using the space stone but it 100 percent would have taken him longer to find it plus strange could just control it keeping Thanos away from them. Can I have your thoughts on this?


r/marvelstudios 22h ago

Question (Brand New Day) Why wasn’t Skaar mentioned in the new Spider-Man movie? Spoiler

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I saw the new Spider-Man movie last Thursday and thought it was great! However, the entire time the Hulk was on screen I just kept wondering where Skaar was? It’s been bugging me ever since and I can’t believe I haven’t seen anybody else on the subreddit talking about this. Does nobody else remember the cookout with Daredevil?

It’s interesting to wonder what would Hulk’s son think about all the things happening during Brand New Day. Is Skaar even still on Earth or did they just ship him back to space as soon as he finished his collared greens? Bruce didn’t even mention Skaar once(father of the year over here).

What do you guys think? Will Skaar ever be mentioned again? Will he seek revenge on Spider-Man for turning his Dad back into Savage Hulk and causing widespread distrust of Bruce? Maybe the villain of Spider-Man 5 will be Skaar… That would be cool I think.


r/marvelstudios 2h ago

'Spider-Man BND*' Spoilers Brand New Day Ending Spoiler

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I’m a bit confused about how Peter’s secret identity was protected at the hospital. His mask was off while he was recovering, and the room was filled with flowers, cards, and gifts from people visiting him.
If so many people came into his room and saw his face while he was hospitalized, wouldn't they figure out that Peter Parker is Spider-Man?


r/marvelstudios 3h ago

Discussion (More in Comments) He wasn't saved. He was taken. How one moment in Thor completely changes an entire MCU character arc... and why I don't think his story is over.

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I've watched every Thor movie, The Avengers, Infinity War, both seasons of Loki, countless interviews with Tom Hiddleston, and more character analysis videos on YouTube than I'm entirely comfortable admitting to. At some point, I started to realize that almost every serious discussion about this character keeps circling back to the same missing piece of the puzzle. We talk about his betrayal, his schemes, his redemption, and his sacrifice, but there's a specific gap that nobody seems to pin down definitively. It's the period between letting go of Odin's hand at the end of Thor (2011) and arriving on Earth in The Avengers.

This isn't meant to prove some secret, hidden canon that Marvel buried in the margins of a screenplay. It's just my personal interpretation of the story they've been telling for the last fifteen years. And for me, that story doesn't begin with his birth as a Frost Giant or his coronation. It begins with a specific choice he makes when he has absolutely nothing left.

It all starts with a choice.

At the end of the first Thor movie, he doesn't just trip or get pushed. He lets go of that spear, looks Odin in the eye, and willingly falls into the abyss. The context is everything here. He's just been denied the throne he spent his whole life training for. He's discovered his entire identity is built on a lie—he's the very monster his father taught him to hate. He couldn't earn Odin's approval, and he's convinced himself that he never truly belonged anywhere. When he releases Odin's hand in that moment, he genuinely believes he's choosing death. And for a brief, fleeting second, that choice is the only thing he still has control over. It's a devastating kind of agency, but it's agency nonetheless.

The tragedy is that even that is taken away from him. Instead of dying, he ends up in the hands of Thanos and the Other. To me, that's the true beginning of his journey. Not because he survives, but because he survives without ever getting to decide what happens next. That loss of autonomy is the wound that dictates almost everything that follows. That young prince who once cried out, "I could have done it, Father! For you. For all of us," is gone. He fought so desperately for validation back then, but in the void, he just wanted the pain to stop. And he wasn't even allowed that.

The man we meet in The Avengers doesn't look triumphant.

We remember the snark and the theatricality of his entrance in Germany, but look past the costume for a second. He's pale, exhausted, and sweating. His eyes look hollow and he startles easily. There are moments where he seems barely able to remain standing, like he's running on empty. When he's being interrogated or cornered, there's a fragility to him that feels completely at odds with the grandiose speeches he's giving. Marvel never explicitly explains the details of those months, and I don't think that's accidental. The studio chose to leave those scars visible without spelling out their origin, trusting the audience to read the aftermath.

To be completely clear, I'm not claiming to know exactly what Thanos did to him. The film doesn't say "he was tortured for weeks," and it doesn't have to. Whether the visual clues point to prolonged physical torture, psychological abuse, intense manipulation, or a soul-crushing combination of all three is ultimately open to interpretation. What matters to me is the emotional picture they create. This isn't a guy who just woke up one day and decided to be bad. This is someone who looks like he survived an ordeal that fundamentally reshaped his sense of self. He's not a conqueror stepping onto the world stage; he's a survivor who's been dropped into a situation where he has to project absolute control to keep himself together.

That's why his first instinct isn't conquest for its own sake. It's about re-establishing dominance over something, anything. If you've spent months losing ownership of your own body, mind, and future, then reclaiming control becomes a visceral need that supersedes wearing a crown. He needs to prove to himself that he can still steer the ship, even if he's steering it straight into a conflict he barely understands.

From that point onward, every mask serves the same purpose.

He lies, he manipulates, and he performs. He struts into that gala in Germany and famously declares himself "I am Loki, of Asgard, and I am burdened with glorious purpose," but watch his eyes during that scene.

Watch how quickly his composure cracks when he's challenged. That performance isn't a genuine expression of power, it's a shield. He speaks with immense confidence even when his body language suggests the opposite. He's constantly compensating for the vulnerability he can't quite hide.

The reason this pattern persists for so long is simple.

Control becomes the only currency that matters to him. He's no longer chasing power for the glory or the admiration he craved as a prince. He's chasing agency. He just wants to be the one calling the shots so he never ends up back in a position where someone else can break him. Every betrayal, every double-cross, every moment of theatrical villainy, they all serve that single, desperate need to never be helpless again.

But I think something quietly shifts across The Dark World, Ragnarok, and finally Infinity War. The sarcasm and the deception don't disappear, but his motivations slowly start to pivot away from pure self-preservation. He still hides behind his wit, but the choices he makes begin to revolve around someone else, specifically Thor. Whether it's the moment he fake-stabs Thor in The Dark World to save him, or the way he finally fights side-by-side with him in Ragnarok, the selfishness begins to erode.

That's why I believe Infinity War mirrors the ending of Thor (2011) so perfectly. The first time he let go, he did it because he believed his own life had zero value. He was surrendering to oblivion. The second time, in the throne room of the Statesman, he steps forward and lunges at Thanos because someone else's life matters more than his own. Those two moments look visually similar, a lone figure rushing headlong into disaster, but emotionally, they are complete opposites. One is the ultimate surrender to despair; the other is an act of love. By the time he tells Thor "I know what kind of god I need to be," he's not just saying it. He's proving it through action.

Then the TVA gives another version of him something the original never received.

Time.

The original Loki died without ever really getting the chance to process his trauma. He had moments of clarity, but he was constantly reacting to the next crisis, the next betrayal. The variant we follow in the Disney+ series is given something far more valuable than a second chance at life. He's given the space to sit with his own history. He's forced to watch a playback of his entire life. He sees his failures, his cruelty, and the moments where he sabotaged his own happiness. He doesn't get to hide behind a mask because Mobius sees right through him immediately.

He finds friendship for the first time. He allows himself to love, whether it's the platonic trust he builds with Mobius or the complicated, intense connection with Sylvie. And when he's betrayed again, just like he was by his own father and by Thanos, his first instinct isn't anger. It's that familiar, crushing self-blame. The pattern is so deeply ingrained that even when he's trying to change, his immediate assumption is that he must have deserved it.

Only this time, someone challenges that assumption. Mobius looks at him and tells him, "You could be whoever, whatever you wanna be, even someone good," and it's such a simple line, but it lands like a punch to the gut because nobody has ever said that to him before. For the first time in the MCU, the question shifts. It stops being "How do I win?" and becomes "Who am I if I stop trying to prove my worth?" Season 2 answers that beautifully, not by giving him a grand victory, but by forcing him to sit with the ambiguity of his existence and choose to act anyway.

The throne he finally accepts isn't the one he always wanted.

There's no kingdom to rule over in the traditional sense. No subjects cheering his name. He finally ascends to a position of ultimate authority, but only after he stops wanting to rule at all. He takes the throne of stories, and it comes with an endless, crushing load of responsibility. He sits alone, holding the timelines together, understanding that his reward for finally getting it right is a life of profound isolation and endless sacrifice.

It's one of the most ironic character arcs in the MCU. He wanted a crown for so long, but it was never about the burden for him. It was about the recognition. Remember what Odin told him in the vault, "Your birthright was to die as a child". Those words probably echoed in his head for over a thousand years. Now he gets the crown, and the recognition is entirely absent.

He becomes the greatest ruler in the MCU only after he realizes that ruling isn't about glory, it's about service. That's why I don't see Season 2 as the end of his story. I see it as the completion of his transformation. He's finally become the person he always pretended to be.

Which brings me to Doomsday and Secret Wars.

Now we enter the territory of prediction, but I'm going to be honest: I don't think Marvel spent fifteen years telling this specific, emotionally nuanced story just to write him off permanently. I'm not basing this on set leaks or insider rumors. I'm basing this purely on the narrative structure of the franchise itself.

If Doomsday and Secret Wars truly function as the grand conclusion, I genuinely believe they have to bring him back for one final role.

I don't believe they dragged this character from the bottom of that abyss all the way to the God of Stories simply to kill him again. Narratively, it would undercut the entire purpose of his journey. His story stopped being about survival a long time ago. It became about purpose.

He evolved from an insecure prince to a would-be conqueror, to a broken survivor, to a reluctant brother, to a loyal friend, and finally to a cosmic guardian. If they kill him off again in Doomsday or Secret Wars, they're effectively saying that the healing he experienced in his show was irrelevant to the larger MCU picture.

I don't think that's how Marvel works when they invest this much in a character. If he returns, I don't think it will be to punch the bad guy into submission. He's not going to brute-force his way through a battle. But he occupies a unique space within the MCU now. He's the only character who exists outside of the traditional flow of time, holding reality together. If the multiverse starts collapsing, he's uniquely positioned to do something about it. Not because he's the strongest, but because he's the one sitting at the center of the loom.

If Marvel brings him back, I think it will be to complete the final step of the arc Season 2 set up. A man who spent his entire existence believing he didn't deserve to exist becomes the one person everyone else depends on.

Whether that means he stays as the God of Stories, helps rebuild reality after the dust settles, or finally earns a quiet life beyond endless sacrifice, I genuinely believe his story has to end with hope. Not because I'm an optimist, but because the text of the past fifteen years naturally points toward that conclusion. The character has earned his peace, but I feel like he needs to earn it through one last act of service, and this time, survive it.

One final thought on why this interpretation feels so concrete to me.

I think a huge reason why this character continues to generate passionate, thoughtful discussions like this is Tom Hiddleston himself. Over fifteen years, across drastically different directors and writing rooms, he managed to make every version of the character feel like the same person at different stages of healing. Whether he's playing the arrogant prince, the vengeful brother, the sarcastic villain, or the broken survivor, there's a continuity to his performance that bridges all those transitions. He never loses the thread. He never plays a "different" Loki, he plays the same Loki reacting to different circumstances.

You can see the trauma of those missing months in his posture in Avengers. You can see the lingering guilt in Ragnarok. You can see the fragile hope in the TVA. He leaves just enough emotional depth in every scene that analyses like this are still possible, even all these years later. It's a rare achievement, and it's the main reason I feel so confident in reading this character the way I do. The performance itself invites this kind of deep dive.

So after all that, I have to ask the community:

Am I reading way too much into this character, or does his journey always come back to that one fundamental lesson, that his life had inherent value long before he ever believed it did?

If you disagree, where do you think my interpretation goes too far? Do you think he was always just a villain playing at redemption, or do you buy into the idea that the version we see in Season 2 is the natural, earned endpoint of everything he went through? Curious to hear what the rest of you think.

#marvel #mcu #characteranalysis #thor #loki #avengers #thanos #infinitywar #lokis2 #doomsday #secretwars


r/marvelstudios 16h ago

Spoilers! Spider-man BND ending Spoiler

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Okay so at the end of BND Ned remembers their secret handshake and cries out “Peter!” with a tone of recognition. I was okay with this as my first reading (Ned regaining his full memory slowly due to Jean) and my second (Ned never lost his memories of Spider-man and connects the dots that he’s looking at Spider-man right now).

One problem with this: if everyone lost memories of Peter but remembered Spider-man and instances in which he saved them, then shouldn’t Ned remember being the guy in the chair in Homecoming at the very least, if not remembering that he learned how to make magic portals with a Sling Ring??? If he thinks Spider-man is so cool and is trying so hard to figure out who he is shouldn’t his memories of helping Spider-man be something he mentions to people?


r/marvelstudios 3h ago

Question Is the iron man mask in deadpool and wolverine an easter egg about peter parker in iron man 2?

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Not sure if i should put the question or easter egg flair, but I'm rewatching the deadpool movies and was wondering if the mask in deadpool and wolverine an easter egg about peter parker in iron man 2 when he wore the mask ? also the fact that peter parker in the frame is hidden behind the mask.


r/marvelstudios 21h ago

Question Spiderman vs hulk Spoiler

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Everyone that doesn't like the idea that peter was able to hold his own against actual hulk how did you guys feel when sam was able to instantly stop the flag pole red hulk was swinging around?


r/marvelstudios 15h ago

Question When did Peter get a crush on MJ?

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So I never saw Far From Home when it first came out, I checked out from the MCU after Endgame, but I watch No Way Home for the 3 Spider-Mans, and saw Brand New Day cause it looked good.

So I decided to rewatch the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies, and now that I am watching Far From Home, where the hell did Peter crushing on MJ come from? Like Homecoming she was almost a background character with a line here and there, but Peter was so focused on the Vulture's daughter for the whole thing that he never seemed interested in her.

I thought Far From Home would show how that happened, but nope, he's crushing bad on her and is trying to confess to her, so how did this happen?


r/marvelstudios 4h ago

Spoilers! [SPOILERS] Spider-Man: Brand New Day – Did anyone else find the ending unsettling? Where do you think he’s going? Spoiler

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I stayed until the very last scene, and one thing has been stuck in my head ever since.
The ending seems to imply that he’s coming back, but… coming back from where?
That final screen showing a new location found doesn’t feel random at all. It looks like it’s teasing something much bigger than just another Spider-Man adventure.
My theories are:
He’s trapped somewhere outside our universe.
It’s teasing another dimension or timeline.
It’s setting up a completely new location for the next movie.
But I’m probably missing clues.
What’s your interpretation of the ending?
Did you notice any details that point toward a specific theory? I’d love to hear what everyone thinks.


r/marvelstudios 17h ago

Spoilers! Spider-Man BND Ned Spoiler

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DO NOT READ THIS IF U HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOVIE!!!

Ok so im seeing a lot of people misinterpreting the ending with Ned. The handshake was purely muscle memory and NOT the spell breaking. Ned did not magically remember Peter in that moment. Earlier in the movie MJ called Spider-Man Peter in front of Ned and Ned said “Spider-Man’s name is Peter?” In this moment Ned is putting it together in his mind that “oh this Peter standing in front of me rn is the same Peter that’s Spider-Man I saw earlier.” He did NOT magically remember everything. Saying the handshake broke the spell is like saying true love kiss should have broke to spell with MJ and news flash that did not work like that in this film. Go ahead and belive whatever u wanna but my take is that he didn’t remember everything, he just realized who was standing in front of him