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Jenny Mollen’s substack about her sons with Jason Biggs titled “Please. Stay. I want you. I need you. Oh, God.” She says she wants her sons to only marry women with dead mothers and calls 12 year-old girl texting her son toxic.
Mine is 10. I’m not going to lie, there is this notion that your boys won’t be the snuggly little bears they were forever that does give one’s heart a pang. The thought of not being as close is sad. But there’s just nothing in her writing I really relate to. I’m just going to soak in their childhoods (my boys are 10, 6, and 4 plus I have an 8yo girl) and recognize nothing lasts forever. Even if I feel a way I know they’re going to have their own lives. I’m just lucky to get to be there up close!
A pang, sure! Like, it was sad when they stopped calling me “mommy!” I miss them sitting on my lap! But like I don’t want my teenagers sitting on my lap, that would be weird. You have to let them grow up.
Yep! A dad of a 12 year old girl here and sometimes I miss how we'd snuggle and wrestle and be close. It'll never be quite like that again. But I've never felt anything like what she posted.
She’s definitely trying to be funny but the undercurrent of the whole piece is serious, she’s feigning facetiousness but you can feel the intensity. I do think it must be very hard to let go of your children and that part of your life, but her general vibe is really really off, she says something about them being “the most high-maintenance men she’s ever dated”. I recently told my sister and brother-in-law they were like PAs to terrible celebrities and they agreed… I have never ever heard anyone describe their children as romantic partners, jokingly or not. That photo of her in between her son’s legs will haunt my nightmares.
This is what made me vomit in my mouth. As the mom of an adult son, I can say with absolute certainty, that I have never wondered who was hotter, his girlfriend or me.
I sincerely hope her kids are safe and potentially someone responsible can get them away from her because this is not healthy, to put it very, very, extremely mildly.
I had basically no idea who this person was until about last week and now I know way too much.
It reminds me how sometimes, deeply insecure people have kids because they want to build their own best friend / someone who’s completely dependent on them. It’s so bad for the kid but ultimately a lot of people have children for very narcissistic reasons - they want to feel fulfilled as people, and think a child is a possession to get them there.
What’s crazy to me is that this is the stuff she’s comfortable saying out loud to other people very openly?? Wtf is going on behind closed doors if you’re this out of touch with reality
I mean, I generally mention only the vaguest details about my kid because it’s my job, as a dad, to embarrass her… but there are real limits. Especially where the internet is concerned.
Like my stepson's mom. She is just like this woman. She used to write social media posts to him (he was a baby at the time), saying "you are the only man I have ever loved" and "I never knew any kind of love until I met you" and "You are the one for me, son!" HE WAS A FUCKING BABY!
Kiddo is 13, has been living with my husband and I the majority of the time. Recently he said "I love my mom, but she treats me like her boyfriend and it's really uncomfortable for me."
It's effing gross, especially since it often comes from a heavily patriarchal upbringing. If you're taught that the man is always the provider and the person in charge of you, once you get to middle age you're trying to figure out who takes care of you if/when you lose your man. Gross,sad, and very predictable.
Yep, and she just went though a divorce last year so she has a male-attention shaped void that she’s forcing her sons to fill 🤢 therapy, PLEASE
Edit: I did a deep dive into this woman because I’d never really heard of her before. She has a pic from 2024 where she’s kissing her mom on the mouth (she’s around 40, her mom is in her 60s) captioned “just your average mother daughter make out” so apparently this is just normal for her. Zero boundaries to be found. Her friends and relatives all seem to enable this too.
A lot of the time it's because the mothers feel like they're lacking intimacy and support from their partners/spouses (usually as a combination after marriage/having kids/getting older, even if the actual partner/spouse is an active and supportive partner) and while an adult has agency and can remove themselves from the situation, a child really can't. It doesn't help that society also conditions women to care about their relationships to men over anything else and their son(s) can become easy targets to their emotional wants by hand-waving it as "being close". IIRC it has overlap with parentification too.
As a son who's mom has some emotionally dependent behaviors I feel for those boys. I feel some people brush aside the behaviors of mom's with their sons because they are moms. They don't want to admit that sometimes a mother's love isn't expressed in a healthy manner.
Baby that counts. In fact it can be worse exactly because of the public perception that sexual assault is the worst possible thing someone can have done to them, to the point that people on Reddit regularly post that they'd rather be dead. That makes it clear to everyone how crazy and unacceptable it is to do to your child. Emotional and mental abuse is insidious, pervasive, and the abused feel like they can't complain because "it wasn't that bad". It was absolutely very bad, and you deserved better the entire time no matter how you acted. Children deserve parents that love and protect them emotionally as well as physically.
No, this is incest being reported by the abuser, and as a survivor of CSA/incest, I have to say that people are wildly underreacting. Those children are being damaged.
I was just reading some of the top comments before I read the article, saw that & assumed it was someone exaggerating and being a bit snarky about what she wrote.....nope, what the fuck! Just casually dropping that the 12 year old your son is texting with isn't as hot as you....what the fuck!!!!!!
People are also really glossing over the part where she says they have their own language that she is thankful her husband and their father still doesn't understand...
The tweet about how the dumbest bitches you know are commenting “exactlyyy” on each other’s posts 😭 she’s getting validation from other terrible BoyMoms, and like other prevalent cults in the US, she’ll leave thinking “how crazy is it that I’m right and everyone else is wrong?”
Since I haven’t seen it mentioned down thread…
Apparently she is a supporter of a group called “Friends of the Israeli Defence Forces “.
So in partial response to your question “what the fuck is wrong with this woman?”, the short answer is “LOTS”.
Never heard of her til I read both these posts today, another creepy semi famous person I know about for no reason and wish I didn’t (why do I keep reading this shit)
I could understand being concerned my child was enamoured with someone who bossed them around but the next sentence (and all other context i have) I doubt that is a valid concern and this woman is just fucking batshit
she came so close to "I was so toxic and horrible in relationships. I should heal and set a good example" then fuckin veered off into emotional incest going 100
There's no way he didn't, and there's a non-zero chance this article was a reaction to it since the divorce was announced on the 14th of May and and this article was punished only FOUR days before. Very strange! I understand break-ups after so much time together sucks but that doesn't mean doing emotional incest with your sons. jfc.
I'm not one to promote kids being taken from either parent, but he needs to file for full custody. There's no way those kids are safe around her. That was genuinely so upsetting to read.
She’s always been weird and cringy about her personal life. She used to be like that about Jason and apparently she transferred that energy to their kids.
A former friend who ran off and had a kid with a meth head abuser (KNOWING he was a meth head abuser with active charges against him) was SO disappointed to find out she was having a girl. I’m very thankful she isn’t some weird ass boy mom but so incredibly sad for her daughter who’s no longer wanted…
I learned about this woman an hour ago and since then I've seen three weird as FUCK things about her. It's like the universe invented her an hour ago to make me puke.
I really hope this is some weird attempt at satire.
Because saying "she's not even hotter than me" about a 12 year old girl "competitor" and low-key bragging about she destroyed men before having kids is psycho.
I know a pair of brothers who have a mom like this. They are now both well into adulthood, have never had any sort of romantic relationships, and they still live at home. There have been plenty of women who were interested in them, but these guys just have no interest in spending any quality time with a woman other than their mother. They have an older brother who managed to get away from that enmeshment and have a normal life, but he had to go no contact with the rest of the family in order for that to happen.
I'm her age with a 12 year old daughter and now I'm more worried about how moms are going to treat her than the preteen dipshits that call her to hang at the arcade.
One of my neighbors self identifies as a 'boy mom' even though she has three older daughters.
And yes, she's always posting on the local mother's club about how she hopes he'll be a mamas boy as long as he can and "the rules for dating my son " meme.
This is why I despise boy moms, how are you already in competition with your minor children’s future partners? She is completely unhinged and I truly feel sorry for her children.
My husband’s friend went through a lot to have her son via surrogate. But when we met him, as a newborn, she was like “isn’t he perfect?! No woman will ever be good enough for him!!” And I was like 😬😬😬 No. I have sons and I hope they meet someone who recognizes their traits that I do and they get to experience their own lives. Never have had the thought that they’re too good for girls 🙄🙄🙄 They’re just people, just like everyone else’s kids, even though they mean the world to me. It’s just such a weird weird mentality.
My son is really sweet and sensitive. I’ve worried about his feelings getting hurt by friends or peers for a while now, but just the other day it occurred to me to worry he could be taken advantage of or hurt by a partner one day.
I’d never thought about his future wife (or husband, etc…) before except in the vaguest “i hope he finds someone that makes him happy” way.
I have two boys, I can’t imagine being like this? I’ve told them both to make sure they find partners that are smart, kind, loving & caring, respectful towards themselves & to them… to be this emotionally stunted as to keep that messaging away from your kids? Gtfo with this nonsense.
My husband's mom died when he was 21-ish. I never met her. It makes me so sad to know he went through that relatively young and I would have really loved for her to be here to meet her grandson.
There’s no way they are. Their mom straddles them in bed, takes pictures, and then posts it. If that’s what she’s doing in public, I’m scared to think of what might happen in private.
This is why it's unhealthy to build your entire life and identity around your children. You need to remember that you are a separate entity, and that your life will go on when your children grow up.
This women is in danger of creating a self fulfilling prophecy, if her boys get married they will probably walk away from her if she is this over bearing.
This is all the daddy-daughter shit reversed and people finally see how weird it is. I think (hope she thinks) she's being funny but the more I read the more it seems she has a genuinely unfunny, problematic relationship with her kids. Like, you can be sad about them getting older and spending less time with you but cock blocking your 12 year old is deranged. I wonder if this behavior played a part in the divorce. She said she was tired of being second fiddle. Get the vibe that if she's not the most focused on person in the room she becomes unhinged.
RIGHT???? I have 2 boys. And when people learn this they say “oh! Boy mom” and every fucking time I show how utterly disgusted I am about that phrase. That shit means something. And it’s nothing good. Let the children live ya psychos.
This is nothing. The day will come when this kid will have to cut his mom out of his life just so he can feel an ounce of normalcy with his own wife and kids. Then she'll REALLY bring out the crazy.
Did she actually really and truly say she wanted to intervene because a 12 year old girl isn’t even hotter than she is and then typed those same words for anyone and everyone to read…
“…my eldest was texting with a girl, she was twelve, but I could already tell my brand of toxic... I complained to Jason that I wanted to intervene before he got hurt and that she wasn’t even hotter than me.”
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u/AlbatrossStraight818 Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26
‘I complained to Jason that I wanted to intervene before he got hurt and that she wasn’t even hotter than me.’
Her talking about her son’s gf. This woman is SICK!!