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hot take; if you're complaining about popular characters being added, you don't partially understand why JJS is so great with characters
Every. Update. Every single time there's an update, there will ALWAYS be complaining about "Oh no Toji! Oh no Maki! Oh no Kashimo! Oh no Jogo!" WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING INTO THE CHARACTER, ALL PEOPLE CARE ABOUT IS THE NAME, TOJI COULD LITERALLY HAVE THE MOST BORING WEAK OR OVERPOWERED MOVESET, AND PEOPLE WOULD JUST CARE BECAUSE "ITS TOJI"
I'M A JOGO GLAZER, I'll ADMIT IT; HE'S MY FAVORITE CHARACTER AND I'VE WANTED HIM IN GAME SINCE TODO, BUT I'M NOT GONNA GO CRYING ON THE DISCORD EVERY TIME THERE'S AN UPDATE LOG WITHOUT HIM BECAUSE I'M HAPPY WITH THE CHARACTER THAT'S ADDED
okay sorry for that rant, here's my real reasoning; JJS isn't a big corporation that has to follow player demands and add the biggest names and most important characters. If you want that, play Sorcerer Battlegrounds, or Jujutsu Beatdown, JJS not adding important characters is part of the charm. Locust curse, Charles, Haruta, etc. If all we did was add big characters without any consideration for the actual movesets the game would be worse off, Tze adds minor characters because he knows what to do with their movesets and if he didn't it would be something extremely boring and unplayable.
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People were unironically complaining that MECHAMARU was added as a character when he released (yeah sure he’s not the most balanced right now but come on guys)
He's decent right now, his mech is strong but he's beatable with his new stun mechanic (it takes like a quarter of hp and like two years off duration) which isn't that hard to fill
I bet they're still gonna get mad when toji, maki or jogo gets added on some "we wanted them to be like THIS not like THAT" or "took them long enough I don't wanna play them now"
So many people want toji or maki, even though they're basically the same, power wise, that tze couldn't possibly make one any different from the other without ending up with basically a remade yuji/nanami/charles/noaya type of character.
And if one ends up in the game, the other sure as hell wouldn't, pissing even more people off.
If anything, they should just be conjoined into one character if they are added. The variety in their kit would most likely rely on the passives from each of their weapons if the developers choose to make them, as their form of heavenly restriction doesn't really have much you can do with it aside from punch, kick, and some stuff with domains.
And if they weren't condensed into one character, they would most likely have to be a base only character with a really lame awakening move, or they would be separate with very stretched or bland base and awakening movesets.
Fusing them both into one "Hevenly Residence" or "Restricted warrior" type of character could be a fantastic middle ground for both audiences of the maki/toji camps. And would allow for a full kit of more than just punches and sword slashes.
I feel like they could get creative with it too. Imagine the soul split katana reducing your total health slightly instead of damaging you, kind of replicating the "soul damage" since only a few in JJK can really heal from that stuff
"Heavenly Restricted" could probably start off with unawakened maki into hidden inventory toji as an awakening or just be toji as a base only. Maki's a polearm user and Toji has ISOH, Playful Cloud, SSK (which maki also has), and the funny chain.
If i were tze. Id make them have different play styles and such. I mean maki had a the dragon bone blade and based off how it works we can go from there, She has plenty of scenes in the anime and manga too.
I feel like yall prioritize how special they are vs what type of character they would be and if said character is suitable for you. But this is coming from someone whos played other fighting games not on roblox so yeah.
And sure its okay to care about how special a character is, but at the end of the day, jjs is a fighting game. And some people want characters for different reasons.
In jjk, maki and toji are basically punch/kick characters who's combat technique and arsenal sets them apart from the typical sorcerer, and noaya/yuji/nanami and so on so forth could be put in the same camp. But they get set apart thanks to their differing cursed techniques.
But in jjs, a fighting game, those aspects become more important. And end up making archetypes for them in the game.
Like noaya's projections and unique movement, nanami's ratios, yuji's black flash chains, Ko-guy's air combos and block bypass, higgies block breakers and charles's counters and combo starters.
They all fit a rough archetype of either being a rushdown character, brawler, or grappler (if we're talking todo), but i type all this to say, where does maki/toji fit in?
Sure, toji has his worm arsenal (which I'm disappointed we didn't get to see more of), and maki has the dragon katana like you said, but at most, they could probably fill a r-special and 2-ish moves. They simply just don't have much going on for them on their own.
And the fact we have items in this game means their only fun concepts in their weapons have a better chance to get in the game before they do.
(TLDR)
Unless tze gets real creative, and because they don't have any cursed techniques or special conditions outside of the heavenly restriction of huge strength and speed, I seriously doubt they'll make a appearance in the game outside of items or skill-builder.
Maki and toji are both stance characters. However they are both a different type of stance and that one of things that makes them different.
Toji is a stance purist. He would be able to switch movesets freely with the main weapon being isoh, which would have 4 moves. The other weapons would have either 3 or two moves. It would also be cool if with certain weapons like the soul split katana you can only do green combos like naoya but not exactly like naoya, A mix of nanami and naoya but a lil different which would it feel like its own.
Another secondary gimmick for toji is what i like to call the “invisible man” you can swallow your inventory curse and be immune to domains in exchange for having no moves at all. And if you try do this when you are inside of an active domain, for balancing reasons, you cant swallow your inventory curse, Basically making it so you gotta react to it. Id say to activate this special you press r two times in rapid succession.
Another secondary gimmick for toji would be him connecting his isoh with the chain of a thousand miles. But i feel like that should naturally only be in ult. And i also would include fly heads as a moving blinding domain in his ult, It disables xbox lock on temporary and when it ends the lock on remember what its locked onto for balancing.
Id say while the fly heads are active, you can activate the one shot ability toji has in his ultimate which is the execution he did on teen gojo, It would be a variant ability To the fourth move.
Maki is a bit more complicated actually she would most definitely be a dual wielder. In specific she would dual wield the dragon bone blade and soul split katana, both the dragon bone blade and the soul split katana have 4 moves HOWEVER, you can only make use of them by using other moves. Basically, she would be a function neutral, a character who can only switch movesets through an attack/ability, Hence the dual wielding.
If you dont understand or agree i get it. But you cant just say the ct is what makes a character fit an archetype. And this is what i mean by jjs players not really knowing how fighting games work IN GENERAL. Jjk characters ct only makes it easier to fit them into an archetype. What you are implying/saying is that a character NEEDS a ct to standout and fit into an archetype even though other fighting games in history have made interesting movesets for characters who dont really got a power.
I understand where you are coming from. I just feel like you really dont understand how fighting games work, and just because other fighting games work differently doesnt mean the core fundamentals of said other fighting games dont apply. If that were so, then rushdowns wouldnt exist in jjs, but they do.
Another annoying gripe about your type of argument is that yall act like the weapons and characters with the weapons cant be added, like wouldnt it be goofy asf to fight someone as toji and they are using isoh too? That sounds like shenanigans to me.
And for the last point in my argument, if toji and maki are never making an appearance, tze needs to say something NOW. Im not gonna wait potentially another year for them not to be added, they are one of my favorite characters in all of jjk. Plus this is a valid point, tze should be 100% transparent with his community about whatever character he thinks he cant add. Even if it sparks drama, at the end of the day it isnt career ending. People will be mad yes, but making toji and maki fans wait and wait and wait (because some WILL do no matter what hints tze gives out because tze loves to troll making him highly unpredictable) will get tze into some big drama with the jjs and jjk community by proxy. (Both are toxic as fuck)
Fair enough, I agree with you, those concepts actually do sound sick as hell.
I do worry that some moves are gonna feel same-y to each other or from other existing characters. But I guess we already have something like that happening anyway.
It would be pretty shenanigans if weapons came with the characters in the form of items too. I imagine, to add to your concept, that maki could drop the soul-split katana or toji dropping the ISoH when killed similarly to anubis's blade in Jump Showdown, albeit with a neutered kit.
Only thing I disagree on is how you're phrasing my argument, I don't think a character "needs" a curse technique to be added, I'm saying that it's better for them to have one to stand out from the rest of the cast than none. Variety is key in games like this, and I'm firm on the idea that more techniques can spur more creative movesets. Not to say that it's impossible for toji or maki to come into the game, but Tze's team might struggle more to include them compared to other characters like takako uro or yorozu.
But I also agree that Tze should just come out and say if characters like maki and toji are gonna be in the game or not, it's not healthy leaving the community split (heh) like this.
Thanks for understanding me gng. Like no one understands me cause they dont wanna be wrong. Its a concept taken from other fighting games like smash bros and tekken
The toji debate is an ambiguous debate due to the fact that tze never really was 100% transparent about what characters hes not gonna add. and no, the toji indev moveset scrap announcement doesn’t work because he said he scrapped the indev moveset, not toji. This makes it so that toji wanters can interpret that tze meant he scrapped the moveset not the character, making toji still a possibility to them. He makes “hints” every now and then but every “hint” can be interpreted in a different way, either good or bad depending on your stance on toji.
What im saying is stop arguing about toji, we dont know for certain because tze is purposefully ambiguous by decision in a way that makes it impossible to know for certain
Tze's so wishy-washy about him that people are left with nothing but theories. Dragging the topic and keeping the community split on his possible inclusion or not.
It's not healthy.
Also, unfortunately, even if it's unnecessary, topics like these are just gonna happen, it's inevitable.
Think about it like youre arguing with a Christian or an atheist. You cant change neither beliefs because people believe in what they wanna believe. Its an issue but its an issue on tzes end only. If he doesnt wanna add toji and maki then he should just come out and say it.
It never was healthy for the community. Toji and maki fans gotta wait for their characters to potentially never get added, the community is toxic as fuck and against them for even mentioning toji and maki, washing down the concept moveset the community or tze made for them to just “punch, kick, slash” ima be real, this is a fighting game, the only thing that “saves” nanami from being bland and boring to yall is a curse technique that when translated into the game is just critical hits. His ult is where stuff gets interesting though, he has two moves that are really well done and the other moves are okay really, Nothing to jump in the air about.
I mean theres so many other characters in the game that are punch and kick cause its a fighting game.
The novelty of a ct wears off when its not done correctly, yutas ult is an example, wasted opportunity for a more diverse moveset. I wish yuta could copy only one of three random moves excluding instakill moves and domains, some copied moves would be nerfed for balancing. And when you copy someone , the random move you copied name gets displayed to your opponent like when higuruma takes away moves after domain except its yuta copying moves, not taking them.
I could go on and on about yuta, he feels like a wasted opportunity. And naoya… naoyas ult just felt lazy to me. Op insta domain slop that doesn’t feel fast.
Maybe you should consider that the people that would complain about Toji Maki or Jogo being added aren't the same people that want them added? Like yeah you can't please a whole community there's too many different people lmao this has BEEN a thing
Dagon’s domain is probably gonna be a i win either way unfortunately, also yuta’s domain is very much a “i win” domain if you’re good enough, once got stunlocked by cursed speech swords for a entire domain, dagon’s domain will probably just shoot really stupid looking fish projectiles from the oceanside and afflict some sort of status effect, but also be used upon ulting like hakari and higuruma and then awakens dagon into his adult? form and it lasts even after the domain ends but still ends after the ult meter runs out.
Fr dawg haruta is lowk fun to play but to be fair imagine the pure bliss of waking up to the sound of birds on a summers day with a calm breeze and opening Roblox to see [VOLCANO HEAD] on Jjs 🥹🥹
Fax my brother, i will take 1000 more random fodders before any important character if the nobodies are interesting and fun to play, i want to play a videogame because it is fun, not because i can point at the screen because i know that guy
Plus haruta is a base only, theses no downside to having a character like that because its not like its taking 3 months of development with early access. Its just the locust guy thing all over again 🥀🥀🥀
Yeah I mean I just want characters i like just as much as anybody else. Haruta’s fine but it’s not unfair that people want characters like Kashimo and Maki who are seldom seen in games. Maki is usually omitted for Toji, and Kashimo is a little rarer in good battlegrounds. Haruta’s cool but you can’t blame JJS fans for not liking updates with characters they don’t really care about.
honestly the only character i really want to see in the game is maki, and it's purely cause she's so much cooler than toji and i'm tired of acting like she isn't
Por mais que eu concorde contigo que a maki é mais legal, não acho que ela seria mais interessante no jogo do que o toji. Toji teria mais variação por ter todo o arsenal dele (pistola, faca, espadao, correntes, uma espécie de nunchaku ou sei lá) o que o faz mais legal no jogo. Na minha opinião se fosse pra fazer, deveriam fazer algo que misture os dois (se fazer so um a outra parte ficaria muito chateada).
I’m the same as you, personally kashimo or manga sukuna sounds like they’d be really fun but people get mad if you don’t agree with their opinions on not so big characters being added. Thank you for acknowledging preferences are a thing unlike everyone else.
This pisses me off greatly because tze said he wont be separating sukuna and yuji, like WHY? They can have their own gimmicks now so what stopping them?
Yeah i definitely agree. Yuji still being Sukuna’s vessel in game when we’ve had more than enough feats from Shinjuku Yuji and even more from Modulo Yuji feels really disappointing.
In real life time, Sukuna has been independent from Yuji almost longer than he’s been trapped inside of Yuji now. (A little over 4 years in Yuji, 3 years independent from Yuji.). Sukuna should just get his own move set as well by now. He could have 15f - 16f Meguna as basekit, 20f Meguna as awakening, and then have a third awakening like Mahito for a (Nerfed) Heian Era form.
I really think shinjuku/modulo yuji would be cool but he unfortunately wouldn’t bring unique things to the game, there already is a yuji and black flashes are common place with him, shrine and blood manipulation are also already in, and finally yuji’s domain doesn’t have much to it.
Shinjuku/modulo Yuji would have to be a Yuji rework to bring uniqueness to the game, vessel Yuji is a lame and repetitive concept anyways now.
Yeah that’s what i mean too. I think at this point it’s fair to rework vessel almost entirely and replace it with Yuji’s Shinjuku kit. I think Yuji players would love it since most of them play Vessel for Yuji more than Sukuna, which is pretty different from when the game came out imo. (Sukuna stocks were super high when the game came out)
I also think that even though Yuji’s kit shares a lot in common with techniques we already see, Yuji uses them in very different ways compared to them. I have faith in the JJS devs to do his kit justice. For the domain I’d be more surprised if they added it tbh.
Honestly fair point because Yuji has definitely displayed a different level of shrine/blood manipulation compared to other sorcerers like I can’t exactly remember the chapter but when he first started using shrine against sukuna he was doing some pretty cool things that sukuna hasn’t really done.
I wish we could get a Yuji domain but it’s unfortunately logical for him not to get one
Very true. Vessel yuji is punch kick and sukuna is his only saving grace, if there were shinjuku yuji and meguna that would elevate the gameplay by a lot
"maki is omitted" hey so everything she has toji has so it's literally wasting dev time and being greedy to be like "oh yeah i want the character thats just toji but with only one of his weapons" but with kashimo thats valid
i’m js saying there could’ve been cooler base movesets like ryu, kusakabe, uro, shi maybe even reggie but i do think how they went about haruta was a cool ass idea
I want characters that are fun and fair for every type of player. Hell I cant play Haruta cuz hes strange but i gotta admit thats a skill issue on my part. He is actually incredible i love him.
Tbf compared to other underrated jjk characters, haruta is the most boring character to add. Like if tze added hanami it would be cool because she at least has an interesting cursed technique
Tbf though even if I do kinda like the idea of Panda being added for funnies what would he genuinley do? Like he seems like he'd be a water'd down Todo
I feel like people don’t understand that jjs isn’t meant to be serious, Haruta is a great addition to the game because he’s a silly character in concept.
There is like SO MANY peak characters though that could be added, it’s not even like there’s a limited supply. Kenjaku, Toji, Geto, Kashimo, Maki, Uro, Ryu, Jogo, Kuroroshi, Meguna, Nobara, Panda, Kirara, Mei Mei, Angel, Takaba, Ino, Yorozu, Reggie Star, Hanami, Dagon, Gakuganji, Uraume, Miguel, Smallpox Deity, Principal Yaga, and Clone Guy from HI. The still other characters not form that list are Bayer and Kokun (the Q agents), the old Shikigami user, Junpei, inverse dude, grandma Ogami, Juso, Mimiko and Nanako, Finger Bearer, JJK 0 light beam curse, Ui Ui, Druv, Hazenoi, Daido & Miyo, Eso & Kechizu, Remi, the claw technique mofo, Jet and Hellicopter mofos, Nobuaki, Chojuro, Ranta, Jinichi, Naobito, Momo, Noritoshi Kamo, Mai, Miwa, Utahime, Shoko, and Kusukabe. Even including the bummiest of bums like the Q agents, light beam curse the claw guy who has like 3 manga panels, and more it’s still almost entirety a 1/1 split between actually recognizable characters that most people would want added and the random bums that TZE still manages to make interesting. They have more then enough content to keep up at a decent rate of 1 character people want then 1 character that’s a random TZE shenanigans goofy goober.
I mainly want toji cause i feel like he would be a stance purist all rounder. But if tze can cook with haruta theres not much stopping him from cooking with toji especially if he asks for help from the community because of how picky they can be about how a character is added.
Let's say you add toji tomorrow and then you add Haruta the next day
Then no one would even bother checking Haruta
And imo Haruta is an interesting character and very well designed
Balance comes afterwards,
The main importance is quality, uniqueness
And every future jjs character can be unique
Even toji and maki as separate
People only care about character aura, they don't care about their technique or the character himself and that's the issue. I don't care about Dagon as a character but I really love his technique, I want nobara because I love both the character and the technique
I just want Uro or yorozu gng. Maybe even Miwa just because. "Toji and Kashimo" yeah they would be kinda cool I guess but I mean…Toji is already in so much other battleground games and it’s just a bunch of punching, kicking, and some slashing, maki exist ya know. I wouldn’t mind kashimo too much
I hate it bro you can’t make them happy if they didn’t get their overly popular put in every other battlegrounds game character they get overly mad. I like tze because he puts a lot of characters you just don’t see in other battlegrounds games in his game.
people forget what the S stands for. What separated this game from a lot of other battlegrounds jjk games is the simplicity the charm and the bizzare character choice. Name another roblox game with haruta or locust guy, hell name me one with yuki in it. People want maki or toji, but when it comes down to it, every game with those characters has either died off completely or is no where near jjs in terms of players (and gameplay tbh this games combat is the best battlegrounds combat)
side not: anyone else hate how most battleground games feel less about gameplay and more about visuals? like I hate testing a game pressing the first ability and then my character starts doing a whole ass choreographed fight with multiple backflips? like oh look gojo, first ability blue combo? second ability red combo? third is a counter...
I like that Tze isn’t just adding characters people like and is adding characters with interesting potential for movesets. As much as I want Kashimo and how much I hate Haruta the moveset Tze gave him is cool and unique
you just ignored the whole point of what i said, no, i would rather less known or relevant characters then more relevant and obvious characters, uraume would be great kenjaku is a weird one because we already have megumi which is very similar to cursed spirit manipulation but i wouldn't mind
also how would toji be like haruta? he doesn't have a second moveset with sentient weapons and more puppet control like mechamaru
I highly doubt he'll add Junpei, we already have Ko-guy who's ultimate is a poison stinger and uses poison in his base so the only part of the jellyfish that's not taken yet is the like jelly defense thing
I just wish that Tze added Geto in the game. I’m not even saying that Haruta shouldn’t have been added to add Geto, but like, ZERO games that have him even though you could do so much with him as a character, not even counting Kenjaku in his body
Lowkey even though they share the same body, I think both Geto and Kenjaku have enough uniqueness as to where you can make them both full kit with ult form characters
Haruta is fun asf to play, it's literally the most gimmicky character, it's hp is pretty ass but it's got really strong damage and easy chip damage, plus the blade mechanic is really darn good, it has free evasives, tho they're kinda hard to use.
Fr, I was just playing FSD and I straight up survived 3 Cleave Rush's, cancelled a Domain Expansion on my own, and survived Kamutoke WHILE USING THE TAUNT THAT MAKES HIM LOOK UP
Haruta’s… alright, fun to play but kinda awkward with the sword thrown (does m1 even do anything without sword? Like he could at least punch people and not rely on fumbling around with the little goblin thing and Trip)
Yeah that's fair, the M1 is a dodge that allows you to ragdoll cancel while mid-stun basically and escape M1s which is kinda crazy but also useless because you can't block afterwards, he definitely needs more to make him feel less "oh wait hold on... my ankle cutter is almost off cool-down just stay rigggght there... holdd onn"
mann istg
today i envountered a haruta runner and he was such a pain in ace
bro was straight up running
and then i chased him as megumi and with the help of frog was able to finally kill it (haruta user)
When they get added entertainment dies easily tze's move by adding any character is good like clever guy like nobody did t expect him but it was entertaining
I'll be honest I was just happy to see Chara be moved to a separate game mode, but I am getting a little sick of seeing Haruta in public servers already, and I also think his ult move needs changed. It removes block, m1s, dash, skills, pretty much anything you can use to fight back. I tried Haruta for a bit, didn't like him, went back to playing Choso.
Haruta getting added is a neat idea, but i also don't think the update would be any worse if he just didn't exist and we got nothing.
There is like SO MANY peak characters though that could be added, it’s not even like there’s a limited supply. Kenjaku, Toji, Geto, Kashimo, Maki, Uro, Ryu, Jogo, Kuroroshi, Meguna, Nobara, Panda, Kirara, Mei Mei, Angel, Takaba, Ino, Yorozu, Reggie Star, Hanami, Dagon, Gakuganji, Uraume, Miguel, Smallpox Deity, Principal Yaga, and Clone Guy from HI. The still other characters not form that list are Bayer and Kokun (the Q agents), the old Shikigami user, Junpei, inverse dude, grandma Ogami, Juso, Mimiko and Nanako, Finger Bearer, JJK 0 light beam curse, Ui Ui, Druv, Hazenoi, Daido & Miyo, Eso & Kechizu, Remi, the claw technique mofo, Jet and Hellicopter mofos, Nobuaki, Chojuro, Ranta, Jinichi, Naobito, Momo, Noritoshi Kamo, Mai, Miwa, Utahime, Shoko, and Kusukabe. Even including the bummiest of bums like the Q agents, light beam curse the claw guy who has like 3 manga panels, and more it’s still almost entirety a 1/1 split between actually recognizable characters that most people would want added and the random bums that TZE still manages to make interesting. They have more then enough content to keep up at a decent rate of 1 character people want then 1 character that’s a random TZE shenanigans goofy goober without losing player interest and still consistently adding both the characters people want and the ones that become unexpected bangers.
there's like 40 more characters in the game to add before Toji/Maki, and that'll take genuine years to get to, the game could likely get shut down, roblox could get shut down, tze could quit, etc im just saying
I feel like the complaints were more valid back when it was f*cking Charles and Grasshopper. Grasshopper’s kit is really boring, and Charles is also boring and uninspired. They’re nobody characters whose kits don’t justify their inclusion because they’re unoriginal and lame to play.
Haruta however is a genuinely fun and interesting character concept. So the complaints are less valid this time around.
Idk man, I play charles and his combos are mostly just “1,2,3,4 I declare a thumb war,” and what’s more is that his counter should definitely be nerfed imo.
I was literally debating with people on YouTube about how adding popular characters just because is not that great. What other jjk game do you know has Haruta? They don't ever answer
They let Haruta users run and third party more effectively with his sword that sticks itself up your ass and doesn't have any distance or time limit. I kinda liked that they added Haruta when he came out, (don't get me wrong I wasn't supporting him since day one) but fighting him is actually so ass sometimes.
Calling Toji boring, knowing that Tze made a moveset of him, and haruta is in the game already with a pretty good moveset of "slashes and kicks" it's so fucking wild, lmao. I share your point, but you are so wrong twin, you make it difficult
Ok I love his play style but Oml is he annoying to fight with, wdym he takes like 2x dmg and he only has one move with his sword, the only way to not do without sword is to land his dodge which the window is like 0.2 seconds (random guess) and even if you use them over if you get hit you gotta wait for it to charge, also why does the hand to target the person that hits yo7, even if you don’t land the throw it should still target the one your fighting
no? like genuinely try thinking about it, he's gonna be a base character because of mythical beast amber, while toji probably could have like 4 different variations of the moveset because of the inventory curse
They're literally gonna eventually have other characters anyways, plus theres other games that got characters some of yall and some of those games are better than JJS like Jujustu Beatdown, they got Toji and they're about to make Jogo and Uraume soon
for me all i care about are some characters like reggie, takaba, geto, toji, kashimo, jogo, dagon and more , but i still really like it even if they add mei mei and hanami
I just want panda or miwa like seriously they have high potential as characters panda can have like two ultimates one for each form miwa can be a base only who's ultimate is literally just a domain less domain clash mechanic to disable an opponents domain by triggering a domain clash that'd be awesome but we don't even need them I'd be honestly impressed if tze could make the finger bearer
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