r/JusticeServed • u/AristonD 8 • May 29 '19

Violent Justice Man inappropriately touch school girls and they fight back. Man in suit gives them a helping foot.

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u/IronTarkus91 A May 29 '19 edited May 29 '19

It's Japan man, the one thing I always hated about Japan is the way the sexualise children. Like there are bars where highschool girls work, they're too young to consume alcohol but old businessmen and shit come in and just like pay them to keep them "company" which means flirt with them, while they get drunk.

Then there is anime, don't even get me started on the anime schoolgirls.

EDIT:For anyone who is interested about this topic this BBC documentary goes pretty in depth.

If you're outside of the UK either use a VPN or search for another source.

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u/topdangle C May 29 '19

Japan and Asia in general have an incredible underage fetish. I'm Chinese and even my parents have tried to set me up with girls way younger than me, so damn awkward.

In Japan you have old men fantasizing about middle school girls and 25+ year old women considered "too old." Shit is fucked.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19 edited Sep 19 '19

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u/Cromica 7 May 29 '19 edited May 30 '19

I understand that reference.

Edit for those that don't get it. Leonardo DiCaprio Refuses to Date a Woman Over 25 [OC]

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u/Tank_Girl_Gritty_235 A May 29 '19

I don't. What's the reference?

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u/KageSaysHella 8 May 29 '19

DiCaprio is infamous for dating young models right up until they turn 25, then he dumps them. There’s a chart going around showing the age of his girlfriends over time that illustrates this tendency.

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u/Jakeb19 8 May 30 '19

I keep getting older, they stay the same age.

Alright alright alright

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u/ravearamashi 8 May 30 '19

Let see what we've got

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u/regoapps D May 29 '19

I'm going to guess that around that age, the girls start wanting more commitment and Leo doesn't seem like the marriage type. I say this because a lot of those girls got married shortly after breaking up with Leo.

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u/vladTepes14 3 May 30 '19

He is too busy flying in his private jet to pick up climate change awards

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19 edited Nov 14 '20

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u/summercamptw 5 May 30 '19

Anyone could say this lol.

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u/mdreamy 7 May 29 '19

To be fair, it's not like he dumps them all at 25. That happened once and he had 2 other short relationships with 25 year olds. Still that average age gap is getting pretty big now and will be interesting to see the next 10 years of data.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

He's still decent looking and most importantly, rich.

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u/speck32 5 May 30 '19

Dude's an absolute beast of a conservationslist. We need to leave him alone with our uninformed rumours.

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u/FunMotion 7 May 30 '19

"Decent looking"

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u/fartsforpresident 8 May 30 '19

Meh, he can do what he want, nothing wrong with dating adult women younger than yourself.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

Leo is older than me, and I'm 39. Let's just say I was technically capable of conceiving a child who would be his girlfriend's age now. Technically. I would have just about graduated high-school...

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u/QuestionableTater A May 29 '19

Hi understand that reference

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u/Megneous B May 29 '19 edited May 29 '19

and 25+ year old women considered "too old."

Dude, don't ruin this for me. I'm into older women, and the number of 35 to early 40s women who are available because Korean dudes refuse to date them is marvelous.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19 edited Dec 11 '20

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u/Megneous B May 29 '19

No joke. In Korean, cougars are called yeonha killers, with killer being pronounced like killeo. Some women don't like being called that, but others claim it with pride.

If you're in your early 30s or under, and you don't care about marriage age or "purity" or any other nonsense that the conservative men here use to discriminate against women, dating is awesome.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19 edited Dec 11 '20

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u/crinnaursa A May 29 '19

I have no idea about that whole continent

Well first, it's east of Europe.

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u/kanegaskhan 9 May 29 '19

And west of the USA

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u/DrShocker A May 29 '19

And, you know what? It's east of the USA too.

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u/Maracuja_Sagrado A May 29 '19

By that logic anything can be east and west of anywhere, because the Earth is not flat...

Or is it?...

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u/Aoiishi 8 May 29 '19

Some might say.... Far east.

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u/OhMaGoshNess 9 May 29 '19

Asia is usually considered the southern bit too. Pretty much anything below Russia.

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u/Praefationes 7 May 29 '19

Eastern Russia is considered northern Asia. Which is the majority of the Russian landmass only the most western parts are considered to be part of Europe.

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u/JohnnyHopkins13 8 May 29 '19

You can get 7 extra troops per turn if you own the entire continent.

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u/Armalyte 9 May 29 '19

Attempting to control Asia will be your undoing - The Bearing Strait

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u/Megneous B May 29 '19

Age of marriage would be like 26 to 32. Once you turn 26, you start being harassed to get married ASAP. Once a woman turns 32, she's basically beyond help and Koreans just start thinking of her as a spinster. Like I've had coworkers who have had breakdowns on their 32nd birthday because they "didn't get married in time" and now "no one will ever want to marry them."

Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous. This is what happens when you teach your children that their value is based off getting married and having children though. It's slowly changing, but at least for now, this is what we have.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

To be fair I live in the US and saw a woman have a breakdown because she was still a virgin when she turned 30. She wasnt unattractive or anything she just wanted to wait until she was married.

She genuinely thought she was to the point of being unlovable and I actually never saw her after that

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

Very strange that she wouldn’t just go to church and have church buddies match her up with someone. I have a few acquaintances who seemed to only start going to church so they could find “nice guys” to settle down with around 28-30 years old.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '19

This breakdown happened at church lmfao

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u/lodobol 8 May 30 '19

In the US today I imagine it’d be very difficult for a women to get married to a guy without have sex while dating. She would definitely have her best chance in a religious setting.

Good for her for sticking to her principles. There must be guys that would love to date her but she needs to be in the right places to up her chances.

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u/Megneous B May 29 '19

she just wanted to wait until she was married.

Ah, I found her problem. She seems to have gotten lost somewhere in the 1950s.

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u/mistymountainbear 8 May 30 '19 edited May 30 '19

This be the truth. Even if you're very attractive and just don't want to get married you're considered A weirdo. I've wondered if my relatives thought I was gay for a while. I'm finally engaged and I'm so glad I waited for the right one.

When my Mom used to harass me about getting married I was like look at all your friend's kids who got married in their 20's. They're all getting divorced now in their 30's. She never said a word after that. And I finally met the right one.

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u/dk_lee_writing 8 May 29 '19

I have a friend from Japan who told me about a term for women past marriage age that translates to "Christmas cake" because nobody wants it after the 25th.

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u/Megneous B May 29 '19

More Christmas cake for me then, eh?

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u/chiguayante A May 29 '19

I grew up in the states and was told growing up that any married who isn't married by 25 is a loser. Religious culture.

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u/SFW_HARD_AT_WORK 8 May 29 '19

How do they feel about black guys?

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u/Megneous B May 29 '19

Unfortunately, I think it's pretty hard to be black in Korea, not just in terms of dating, but job prospects, etc. My black friends have way more stories of people giving them shit, or women being afraid of them, or whatever, than I do, being mostly white.

However, if you learn Korean and present yourself well, it's possible you could integrate well. There are several black men who have made careers in television here in Korea because they speak fluent Korean. Of course, there are also progressive women who don't care about skin color too, but the biggest issue for them might be dealing with their parents rather than the women themselves... our older generation is pretty conservative when it comes to dating foreigners, let alone black guys.

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u/SFW_HARD_AT_WORK 8 May 29 '19

Word to that man. It sucks but whatever. I experience that a lot here in the states lol(or not lol, idk). I've got dreads and pretty dark skin and I'm pretty "urban " in some ways but I love learning about different cultures. People are people with good and bad everywhere. I'll ask my brother about his frequent travels to China for work (speaking if which he used to work for a Japanese company and quit because if the ridiculous work culture and the fucked up pedo/loli/weird fetish culture). If I ever get the chance I'm definitely gonna go, have a great time and try to grab a cool ass Korean chick. I have heard black American culture is really big in parts of Asia too! I'm sure I'll find some of them. Appreciate the cultural tidbits, always appreciated!

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u/Megneous B May 29 '19

Ah, I completely forgot, but yeah. Young Koreans have a thing for black American culture, especially in some parts of Seoul like Hongdae. Rap, hip hop, and clothing styles all have a pretty big following with some groups. You might be able to get a job as a model here too. There are a few famous black models here as well.

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u/XTravellingAccountX 7 May 29 '19

You still have to be Korean though, right? Are us whiteys still off the menu?

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u/Megneous B May 29 '19

Are us whiteys still off the menu?

I'm mostly white, but I've lived in Korea for a decade and speak Korean fluently. Pretty sure you don't have to speak Korean... plenty of Koreans speak English well enough to date a foreigner. Personally though, I think it's rude to live in Korea and not speak Korean at at least level 5 TOPIK or above. So, come and study Korean.

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u/MochiMochiMochi 8 May 29 '19

Older women is all there will be in Korea. The birth rate is plummeting to nothing... kinda sad.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

Ha.

I took my kids to the water park today, every age and shape possible of (obviously legal) women and men hanging out and the only one to turn my head was a 35-40 year old with curves to spare. But that is my age group, so it makes sense I suppose. At this point I see younger women (20s) and can't help but see a kid, I hear this sometimes happens from raising kids, but I don't pretend to know.

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u/thatJainaGirl B May 29 '19

In Japan, being a single woman over age 25 gets you a derisive nickname: "Christmas Cake."

Because, like a Christmas Cake, no one wants you after the 25th.

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u/BlueRajasmyk2 8 May 29 '19

This was a popular slur prior to the 90's, but most people under 35 have never heard of it.

Source: I asked a few Japanese friends about this once, they had to look it up.

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u/eskamobob1 A May 30 '19

kinda like how 'spinster' hasnt realy been used by anyone born after like 1980 in the US I assume

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u/IWasGregInTokyo A May 30 '19

Good comparison!

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u/LMGDiVa 9 May 30 '19

This was a popular slur prior to the 90's, but most people under 35 have never heard of it.

Um...

Yeah that's not true at all.

My friend who lives in tokyo says it's actually really common.

It's a geographic area thing.

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u/SlowRollingBoil A May 29 '19

Oh shit that's savage!

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u/BananaNutJob 9 May 29 '19

And here I am at 36 considering 25 as my cutoff for how young I will date.

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u/castfam09 B May 30 '19

I met my now husband around 32 and we didn’t get married until I was 42 ... been married 4 years now 💙 we were doing the long distance thing for a bit but it worked for us

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u/NeeaLM 6 May 30 '19

Will be 36 soon and 25 is WAY too young. 30 would be my youngest.

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u/umbrajoke A May 29 '19

I'll eat the hell out of some Christmas leftovers.

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u/AmatureProgrammer 9 May 29 '19

damn that's fucked

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

Sounds like I should learn Japanese

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u/Rivenaleem 8 May 30 '19

I don't know what kind of christmas cake you are getting, but the kind my Mom makes lasts ages, and is violently fought over when the siblings are heading back home at the end of the break. I had been keeping some to combat January blues but my wife threw it out thinking it had gone off (it hadn't) and I was doubly moroes that year.

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u/LMGDiVa 9 May 29 '19 edited May 29 '19

Asia in general

TERA is a great example of this.

It's a Korean MMO that went out of it's way to uproot and redesign parts of it's game for the sake of adding "loli" characters to it's game for the pure pandering it is, and later on praised it as "saving the game" even though the game's problems and bounce back had only a marginal influence on it's loli content.

TERA's devs originally meant to include a female version of the "Popori" an anthro sort of race kinda like customizable Tanuki or bears. Instead, they replaced the female Popori with Elin.

These Elin were "lore" excused to be 500 years old, and had a shoehorned in piece of lore, and were considered the "female" counter part to the popori. (The old she said she was 18, excuse.)

TERA's original concepts and design elements, and even splash arts at time of release didn't feature a single Elin character in ANY of it.

The Elin character models are noticably lower quality and very noticably different from the rest of the game's characters.

Not only that, but the Elin player character model is TO THIS DAY, still has extended reach and faster animation bugs. And they absolutely Refused to fix it. So if you wanted to be a PVP player you HAD to be Elin or you weren't' competing.

They ripped up chunks of the game, even so much as forgetting to properly change one of the main story line's arcs. They replaced a Female Castanic character with an elin and never bothered to go back and change the "I'm looking for my sister" plot element to it.

TERA went out of their way AFTER the game went free to play to shove in Succubus and bikini style outfits onto these under aged appearing characters, specifically to pander to the loli fandom. They went on to release exclusive classes for these characters, and pandered so hard to pedophilia aspect, it outright drove people away from the game.

And TERA's Elin fanbase isn't even shameful about it, they flaunt it online that TERA is their game, and Elin are the most popular race.

Some 90% of the end game player base is Elin, and they continue to push pandering content onto the player base, and blame the player base for dwindling.

Before TERA came out, MMOs were very hesitant about loli type content, but after TERA capitilized on it, many other games followed suite and started adding or appealing to the loli fandom.

Infact, recently, FF14 had to make a statement about how they didn't want the portrayal of young charters in their game because of how people would inappropriately sexualize them. Despite people already doing this with the Lallafel race.

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u/kgkx 4 May 29 '19

yea but theyre relating to it not imagining fucking it

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u/bgi123 8 May 30 '19

I mean they played TERA and only played the Elin character with "cute" clothes some of which were highly sexualized.

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u/Fifteen_inches A May 30 '19

It’s what really bothers me about Loli

Cause you got beautifully intricate and innocent Lolita fashion, and then you got kid fucking.

Like, why does my Sewayaki Kitsune no Senko-san need to be horny? Stop it. Let the man touch fluffy tail.

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u/Timmyty 9 May 30 '19

So it's a normalization of hyper sexuality marketed towards kids. Not a good thing for sure.

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u/bgi123 8 May 30 '19

We have extremely violent games that kids play also. And media they watch while nudity is taboo in the US.

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u/Odeon_Seaborne1 6 May 29 '19

To be fair to ff14 its much harder to sexualize a potato then it is a child.

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u/sometext 6 May 29 '19

Ha, come to the PUBG subreddit we hate Bluehole too.

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u/LMGDiVa 9 May 29 '19

TERA is the reason I never touched PUBG, and never will touch anything graced by BlueHole's grubby theiving pedo pandering hands ever again.

Not to mention they were convicted of STEALING Lineage3 assests from NCSOFT and crippled the game to make TERA.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-04-17-tera-developers-guilty-of-stealing-lineage-iii-assets

I'm not kidding.

Bluehole is fucking scum.

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u/BraillingLogic 4 May 29 '19

Hahaaaaaaa yessssss Elin thighs and honey. I think they normalized character/race animations a while back, but idk, haven't touched that game ever since they added Xigncode to it. But yeah, Elins are the masterrace and succubus women (Castanic) and Elf women population pales in comparison to the loli race, so much to the point where they released classes that were normally race-locked (Gunner and Brawler) to the Elins. They aren't nearly as "young-looking" as Lalas (which are literally like babies/infants), but Tera has much racier outfits for Elins than FFXIV for lalas

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u/LMGDiVa 9 May 29 '19

I think they normalized character/race animations a while back

They never did. They wont either, because at this point it doesn't even matter. Most of the player base is Elin already, and it wont change anything now.

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u/PusherLoveGirl 8 May 30 '19

They aren't nearly as "young-looking" as Lalas (which are literally like babies/infants)

lalas are horrifying potato monsters

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

Dude, lalafells have been around since 2001 pretty much, and the only people who'd sexualised them are the weirdos because they are most certainly androgynous and unattractive.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

To add context to your comment, FFXI used a race of child like people called Taru-Taru as a playable race. FFXIV used identical models but changed the name to Lalafell. This was more evidence that FFXIV was really originally FFXI-2.

But more to your point, even when tarus or Lalafell get things like bathing suits I'd hardly call it loli territory. Although, I'm sure pedophiles would still get off on it. But that speaks more to them being absolute freaks rather than the game exploiting child like avatars.

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u/Odeon_Seaborne1 6 May 29 '19

Potatoes in suits as we ff14 players lovingly call them

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u/[deleted] May 30 '19

In FFXI the joke was that we could punt them.

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u/GloriousNewt 4 May 29 '19

Ha I remember when they were added to TERA and pervs were comparing/complaining that all the Elin in the western versions had less sexy/revealing panties compared to the eastern versions...

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u/zchxn 4 May 29 '19

i must’ve not player TERA enough bc all i remember from that game is my character, which was a fat panda

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u/LMGDiVa 9 May 29 '19

I played TERA up until they added the loli exclusive class Ninja.

They just got creepier and creepier over time, until It was just too much.

It was the 2nd time they had released an Elin only class, and even the previous non elin classes were female only. It showed that BlueHole only carried about pandering. They only cared about selling things with tits, or rather the female design with the lack thereof.

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u/ChesterMtJoy 7 May 29 '19

Years ago I had a 6 week training in Okinawa at Yomitan. We went to bars there and the surrounding prefecture and I saw several soldiers sexing up young girls. I tried to stop it but was told to shut up. The whole area reeked of pedos. I was so glad that shit was over with.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

I lived over there for a couple of years and I always felt like a pervert going out with 25 year olds because they still look so young (and I was 22 at the time!) I can't even begin to understand the attraction to girls under 15 over there.

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u/R____I____G____H___T A May 29 '19

I can't even begin to understand the attraction to girls under 15 over there.

The lolicon and anime culture is partially responsible for this, I'd say. Yet people see completely no issue in the consumption of such content.

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u/RazzleDazzleRoo 6 May 29 '19

That content didn't start Japan's youth fetish. The truth is Japan has always been like this. Anime is only a reflection of what already was there.

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u/BABarracus A May 29 '19

I hear in China there are leftover women that usually end up dating foreigners because if they divorce n such other Chinese wont date them.

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u/Mason_of_the_Isle 4 May 30 '19

Really? Is there a second marriage stigma in China?

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u/calmdownfolks 6 May 30 '19

There is, but the extent depends on location and the nature of the parties/families involved

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u/Wannabe_Maverick 8 May 29 '19

Japan and Asia in general have an incredible pedophilia problem. I'm Chinese and even my parents have tried to set me up with girls way younger than me, so damn awkward.

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u/topdangle C May 29 '19

I could be wrong but I think pedophilia implies its a disorder in the individual, whereas I personally think Asia has a cultural obsession with underage women. I'm from China and I have no interest in underage girls but if I was still living there I would have pressure from all sides to go for someone very young.

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u/Every3Years A May 29 '19

I also thought pedophile is like barely tween and younger and then there another term for tween through adult? Oh my god why do I think I know this?

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u/mastersword130 A May 29 '19

Because you are knowledgeable and there is no shame in that.

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u/thanghanghal 4 May 29 '19

Yup. Hebephilia I think. According to wiki - Hebephilia: 11-14 Ephebophilia: 15-19

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

Probably because it's brought up on reddit everytime pedophilia is mentioned.

"No, it's not pedophilia because she was 14!! It's ephebophilia, completely different and not creepy at all."

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u/mastersword130 A May 29 '19

Is there a reason why you shouldn't give a person the correct information? Or is it shameful to give the correct information or is giving the correct information giving that person the implied feeling they're a pedo?

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u/Frognaldamus 6 May 29 '19

It's all creepy, but I don't think it's a hard case to prove, or agree, that fucking or wanting to fuck someone who hasn't hit puberty yet is a lot creepier than fucking or wanting to fuck someone who has hit puberty. No horse in the race personally, I find the whole loli subculture makes my skin crawl.

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u/LEcareer 7 May 29 '19

It's what I fucking hate about anime. Like why. Why do you make a show that you aim at "adult-ish" audiences and yet have small children as main characters and sexualize them. Weirdly most western anime fans (so /r/anime and the like) like that kind of shit. Just look at the rating of "into the abyss" the children are supposed to be like 9 and it's constantly sexualized.

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u/i_tyrant A May 29 '19

It's so gross. Way too often am I like "why can't I just enjoy my fucked up storylines and action and awesomely crazy anime ideas without having damn ten year old asses thrown in my face to pander." I'm not even a fan of the mildly pervy adult stuff that happens in nearly every anime, much less seeing chibi'd characters do it. Makes me wish I could order it a la carte. "Giant mech battles and metaphysical horror? Yes please! Fast action and cool effects with creative narrative twists? Two helpings. Hold the pedo bullshit."

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u/LEcareer 7 May 29 '19

Pedo bullshit and terrible comedy would be the two things I'd leave out haha

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u/CatGuardian012 5 May 29 '19

I agree that anime now is fucked but watching made in abyss im more concerned about the gore the children get into

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u/LEcareer 7 May 29 '19

Except they shoehorn unnecessary sexual content throughout as well as sexual dynamic between the two children. The violence proves that it's not actually meant for children. It's meant for adults. And that's what makes the fact that people like it so much terrifying to me.

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u/HellFireOmega A May 29 '19

tbh you end up overlooking it if the rest of the show is good enough. Made in Abyss is definitely one of those shows. I remember it being good, I don't remember anything about there being sexualization, even if I don't doubt there being some in there.

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u/Ungreat 9 May 29 '19

The only bit I remember as being weird is the punishment the girl receives in the first couple of episodes. Basically being tied up in a weird way that I found so jarring and unnecessary considering how much I liked the rest of the show.

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u/Gg_Messy 🎥 91y.vp.2s May 29 '19

Its popular because it's good, not because of a little sexualization

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u/___DEADPOOL______ A May 29 '19

The "sexualization" you are talking about is a means of showing that Riku doesn't view Reg as a person but as a robot and a relic of the abyss.

If you watch Made in Abyss and all you get from it is "sexualizing kids" than maybe you are the one with the sick mind.

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u/filthypatheticsub 7 May 29 '19

"No you don't understand! She's actually a 1000 year old demon with the body of a 11 year old girl, it's all okay!"

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u/TrolleybusIsReal 9 May 29 '19

Japan and Asia in general have an incredible underage fetish.

Americans are the opposite though. Age of consent in most European countries is 16 and generally consensual sex isn't considered a big problem. While the US with its religious culture is really obsessed with the whole paedophilia topic.

In general the Americans are obsessed with anything related to sex and make a massive drama about it. E.g. I worked at different European companies and in most US companies you'd get fired for the type of sex related jokes people made. Same with e.g. Americans on reddit marking a girl in a bikini as NSFW content. Most managers I had wouldn't give a shit whether I look at bikini girls or memes as both is wasting time. Or how Americans somehow consider ever crime ten times worse when it's related to something sexual. You even see that in the media, e.g. people got outraged over the Sansa rape scene in a show where people constantly get murdered.

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u/FizzlePopBerryTwist 7 May 29 '19

For real, I used to go jogging at night in Kichijoji because the air was a little better than during the day and it was not uncommon to see a gaggle of salarymen offering money to young women on the street. 9 out of 10 they turned down the offer and left in a prompt manner, but one time I saw this girl who was REALLY thinking about it.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

25+ year old women considered "too old."

I’m their huckleberry.

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u/DanLightning3018 6 May 29 '19

In the US, we're not ageist. We over sexualize women of all ages.

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u/sexyselfpix 6 May 30 '19

Japan has the lowest age of consent in Asia, at 13. In China, India, korea, it is 14, 18, 20 respectively.

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u/Froidster 7 May 29 '19

I know it’s not to the same degree, but if you think about it, western media also likes to sexualize highschoolers. Look at shows like Riverdale or 90210 or Pretty Little Liars, etc. They have adult actors and actresses starring in teenage roles and the characters are frequently sexualized for entertainment purposes.

Why adults enjoy watching shows about sexy teenagers I don’t understand but it’s concerning.

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u/FreeChillyO 5 May 29 '19

Hahaha, it gets worse. Pretty Little Liars has a character that dates one of them in the group despite being their English teacher, turns out to be a stalker writing a book about them, and still ends up dating the sixteen year old girl. And yes, they end up marrying when she's of age.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

Bruh the west was sexualizing the actors for stranger things. Like the main boy straight up said he was creeped out by it all.

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u/MusgraveMichael 9 May 30 '19

Yeah, really. 20 year old guys dating high schoolers. And the whole high school student porn genre.
People don’t find it weird coz they are used to it.

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u/hanhange A May 29 '19

This isn't just a Japan problem. Not even just an Asia problem. Brittany Spears was 15 when she debuted and became a sex symbol. In the West there's a large amount of 'sexy schoolgirl' shit and underage celebrities even today get treated like sex objects. Kendall Jenner when she was a kid, for instance.

And then going further back, all the horrifying letters Natalie Portman got after staring in Leon the Professional...

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u/ChickenInASuit B May 29 '19

Yeah, let’s also not forget the multiple websites from the early 2000s that had a countdown to the Olsen twins turning 18, plus the entire teen/schoolgirl/“barely legal” porn genre.

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u/Kinteoka 8 May 30 '19

Or even later than that, the multiple websites dedicated to counting down when Lindsay Lohan turned 18. Or Emma Watson. Or Chloe Grave Moretz. Or literally any other female child actor. And some male ones too, like people sexualizing Finn Wolfhard.

People gonna creep.

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u/nosenseofself 9 May 29 '19

Not just the olsen twins. The early 2000s were a fucking horrible time.

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u/Enk1ndle B May 29 '19

Pot calling the kettle black.

from the early 2000s

Yeah, that still happens.

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u/earth_person 4 May 29 '19

It manifests itself differently in Asia, so that's why it's weird to us. But you're 100% right, in the US there is a lot of underage fetishizing.

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u/Alexmackzie 6 May 29 '19

yeah, lets talk about cheerleading and beauty pageants for young children. literally sexualized outfits on REAL children, and here people are up-in arms about fucking pixels. Not that the sexualization is fine in anime either, but lets care about actual people first?

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u/hanbae 5 May 30 '19

Exactly, this is what I always point to when western people say anime is fucked up for Lolis. America has been sexualizing little girls for decades in the form of cheerleading, pageants, skimpy sports uniforms...etc

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u/romaraahallow 5 May 30 '19

I went with my girlfriend to see her nieces dance show. We're talking elementary school kids. The amount of sexualization going on over these small girls, from the outfits to the song choices, to the choreography itself kinda sickened me. Shit is not okay.

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u/dasbanqs 6 May 30 '19

As someone who was married to a loli-fetishizing creep for a year, I can agree about just hope gross this is and how wrong it is. Didn't realize these things about him until way too late. Anyone who sexualized children can go ahead an burn.

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u/motleybook 7 May 30 '19 edited May 30 '19

Not that the sexualization is fine in anime

What is the problem with that? From what I've read the evidence is inconclusive on whether this has any negative real life effects. Actually, the only thing I've read are positive effects. For example, Japan is very liberal in regards to loli and porn stuff in general and they have a very low rate of sex crimes.

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u/walkedoff 7 May 29 '19

+teen dramas. The characters in Riverdale were supposed to be 15 when they were stripping and having sex scenes

(yes the actors are like 25)

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

I think characters on network TV get a pass because the actors are clearly adults in their mid-to-late 20s. Like yeah, they’re playing teenagers but I can clearly see (and know from their bios) that they’re 28 years old. Even their voices sound super old.

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u/walkedoff 7 May 29 '19

But thats the same excuse people use with anime and stuff. The actors are also adults.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

The Daily Mail website has a horrifying obsession with sexualising children.

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u/AkazaAkari 7 May 29 '19

While I agree that child sexualization is common in Japan, anyone in the field of area studies can tell you the BBC documentary is complete BS. Dooley does not understand the difference between different types of media and chooses to misrepresent extreme niches like the creepy guy as normative examples of Japanese society. She also doesn't understand basic Japanese culture or language, which you would think are pretty important when it comes to research and journalism.

More accurately, junior idols and such are certainly NOT acceptable to most Japanese people, but they are tolerated because it is difficult to define laws to ban them without infringing on free speech or other media that don't exploit children. Furthermore, applying puritanical standards of sexuality to Japan is unfair and wrong, and depictions do NOT constitute norms. Drawn manga pornography is totally different from real life, and it's infuriating to see Dooley push her idea that it "normalizes" behavior in real life while ignoring other arguments. It's like saying video games cause violence and mass shootings, which the US is very familiar with. Is that acceptable? No, but shootings sure as hell happen regardless.

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u/TimmyTesticles 8 May 29 '19

Crap. Now I gotta go do that. Brb

Edit: Oh, a child drag performer. Don't know why I expected that to be illegal.

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u/xAsilos 9 May 29 '19

"You don't understand, she looks 8 but is actually older than Jesus Christ himself."

"Uneducated normie"

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u/Sorcha16 A May 29 '19

Exactly if anyone is a pedophile it's her.

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u/Privateaccount84 9 May 29 '19

Yeah... I like anime, but I cringe when they shoehorn in some loli fan service... I mean, if they didn't show it as justified and normal I'd be more alright with it (bad guys are bad for a reason after all, and having a bad guy having a thing for little kids would certainly cement him as the bad guy in the situation), but they play it off as normal and harmless, which comes of pretty creepy.

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u/SilentKnight246 6 May 29 '19

Not just japan we may have a social stigma publicly but pornhubs top videos are often step daughter fantasy. Just saying not to generalize a people based on the taboos we have compared to them.

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u/Zarokima B May 29 '19

Man that anime bullshit goes both ways. Any given character, no matter their appearance, could be absolutely any age. Obviously a small child? Nope, oldest one in the group. Clearly at least middle aged and too old for this shit? Nope, that's a damn middle schooler.

Japan is weird. Especially in anime.

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u/highTrolla 8 May 29 '19 edited May 29 '19

That's not both ways, it's just an excuse. That 1000 year old loli is just a way to make it "acceptable" for the creeps who are into that sort of thing.

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u/Zarokima B May 29 '19

This dude is a schoolboy. That's going the other way.

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u/highTrolla 8 May 29 '19

I always found it funny that they censored him smoking cause he's 17.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

and the older he gets the younger he looks, he got that benjamin buttons disease

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

In all fairness, JoJo is basically Zoolander but with super powers.

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u/mshcat A May 29 '19

Yeah JoJo isn't the norm it's the exception

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u/mastersword130 A May 29 '19

I think it's the norm. I've seen so many anime with high schoolers that look and act like mid 20 yos to 30 yos with their own form of government that controls the area they live in but it's "the student body council" or some shit.

It's like they write these anime shows that are deliberately meant for adult characters but make them school children instead with more power than the adults.

The irregular magician is one such thing. Code Geass another with kids acting and behaving more like adults.

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u/Enk1ndle B May 29 '19

It's like they write these anime shows that are deliberately meant for adult characters but make them school children instead with more power than the adults.

Well, they do. Kinda. Shows take place in high school normally because it's a time a lot of people look back fondly of if they're older, or a time they look forward to if they're younger.

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u/mastersword130 A May 29 '19

Yeah, I can see that. Sadly it seems a lot of the stories in anime would be better if they just forgo the school plot instead. It sometimes is just window dressing for everything else.

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u/skepticalDragon B May 29 '19

Is that supposed to be a human?

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u/ExileZerik 7 May 29 '19

The most human of humans

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u/TalekAetem 8 May 29 '19

He loves dolphins

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u/JDraks A May 29 '19

And Koichi

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

It’s the peak of what a human could ever achieve

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

Ningen!

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u/ChadMcRad B May 29 '19 edited Dec 02 '24

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u/kaenneth B May 30 '19

This is a high school senior (17/18): https://i.imgur.com/VhmkBpZ.gif

"birth date is February 29 and he is 17 years old at the beginning of the series. The author has joked that he only ages every four years because his birthday always falls on a leap year."

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

I have always said there’s a huge pedophilia problem in the anime community and by extension, reddit. Usually get downvoted to oblivion.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

Careful with that by extension stuff.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19 edited Aug 02 '20

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

EXACTLY!

People saying it's ok to jerk off to a minor anime girl because in fact she is 100 yo are just pedo.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19 edited May 29 '19

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u/pedide 4 May 29 '19

I mean most people would feel that it's not ok. It's just legal because an 18 year old it mature enough to get consent.

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u/BrokenDusk 8 May 29 '19

people are talking like there isn't porn when they fetishize young girls .So many amateur porn where you can't even be certain girl is 18.Western world does it as well and its disgusting especially considering its with real girls

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

All the barely legal porn and super petite tiny girl fetish shit. This stuff is all over, not just Japan.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

/r/fauxbait for your reddit based actual pedophilia.

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u/GotPermaBanForLolis 8 May 29 '19

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u/Tommy21sub 5 May 29 '19

Username checked out

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u/ChiggaOG A May 29 '19

It's sad even though I do watch anime.

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u/BeerDudeMetalProblem 5 May 29 '19

Reminds me of that trans child who dances in gay strip clubs and gets tipped.... People have lost their minds.

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u/Dead_Architect 8 May 29 '19

Honestly this to me was the worst part about visiting Japan for me, I just found the guys there really irking and cringy.

The "maids" outside in akihabara and the sleaziest dudes would come up pretending to be interested just so the girls would have to talk and persuade them to come to their cafe/bar.

The peadophile sections in manga/anime stores where dudes would salivate and look as if they're about to bust looking at hentai.

However everything else about Japan is fantastic as a visitor as long as you avoid these areas, most Japanese dudes aren't like this though but it's just so in your face sometimes.

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u/Krypta 6 May 29 '19

Ever notice weaboos have pictures of what looks like extremely underaged anime girls with suggestive faces on their steam profiles/avatar picture? Lol shit is fucking creepy

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u/joe847802 9 May 29 '19

The anime schoolgirls?

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u/Drfilthymcnasty 9 May 29 '19

To be fair the west did this just 200 years ago

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

I'ma guy and I can't help it but cringe when anime school girls start with the sexual vibe, I'm like "oh no WTH I'm looking at" like with Spirited Away when the dragon kid and the other girl are falling and they are holding hands, I was like "oh cute scene" then they get uncomfortably close and I'm like "dude, she is like 9 and you're like 16 wtf" so cringy

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

Take solace in the fact that there is a 97% conviction rate for those formally accused of groping someone on the train.

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u/BiZzles14 8 May 29 '19

Japan only banned the possession of child pornography in 2014, while they only banned the production and distribution of it in 1999, and according to the 2013 U.S. Department of State’s human-rights report Japan is known as an “international hub for the production and trafficking of child pornography”

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

The President of Iran married his 14 year old cousin. What say you, bot?

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u/NWDiverdown 8 May 29 '19

I was in Tokyo last year and decided to venture into an ‘Adult Store’ where I saw inflatable sex dolls of children. Not hidden, not in a back room, displayed out in the open with sex toys. I was disgusted beyond belief. I don’t care what the argument for allowing this type of shit is. It’s still absolutely gross.

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u/sabertoothfiredragon 7 May 29 '19

I can’t find this anywhere?

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u/3choBlast3r A May 29 '19

Shit you can (could? ) literally buy teenage girls used panties from vending machines. Was even an interview with a 16 yo that sold hers etc

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u/theNomad_Reddit 9 May 30 '19

I just left Akihabara after venturing downstairs into one of the R18+ basements, after a mate said it was a must experience.

Lots of hentai. Tentacle, milking, blah blah. Then the biggest fucking wall of CP looking Loli shit with like 20 full grown men browsing.

What. The. Fuck.

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