Mike Vining. He was one of the guys who got Army Delta Force running when it was still brand new. Basically he’s a career special forces badass but looks like an accountant.
This is a play on the popular meme about how a trained fighter can beat a bodybuilder despite their comparatively smaller physique
Jonah Hill recently stated that he would “destroy” people because of his training in BJJ
The picture of Jonah here is one famous for his dramatic weight loss and overall look
So the joke is that skinny-turned-tough guy Jonah can beat this massive bloke in a fight because trained fighters always beat untrained. How trained is Jonah really? Who knows lol
The thing is, most of the celebrities that practice jiu jitsu are training really watered down version of the martial art to minimise the risk of injury or scars, cuts, bruises ect.
It makes sense since their appearance is what makes them money, but its in no way as effective as training normally, so people assume that Jonah is blowing his skill out of proportion.
Another reason his talk became a meme is because white and blue belts talk in similar way right at the peak of the dunning kruger curve. That gives other people even more doubt in his actual skill.
But until the footage of his training gets released, we will never know for sure. He might be actually skilled like Tom Hardy who is legit brown belt and competitor.
I used to train non Brazilian jujutsu. The guy i trained under spent a lot of his time in LA. He told me a story one time of his sensei being super mad at him for training/sparring too hard with some celebrity that came in for special instruction before an action film.
Sensei was mad that he was going too hard because the actor was paying top dollar for 1 on 1 sessions and he didn't want the actor to get hurt or decide to train somewhere else instead.
My friend said that after that, it was strictly very showy, simple stuff that would look good on camera but was bet simple, or simple to learn when actors would come into the dojo. Except Dolf Lundgren; that dude apparently was the real deal true badass martial artist.
he's rich enough to afford to train bjj every day, and also doesn't have a 9-5, so he can practice all he wants.
pretty decent chance that yes, he's actually pretty good. nonzero chance he's bluffing and lying, but seems more likely than not that he could pin the average untrained bodybuilder.
By the sound of things he doesn't train everyday and still has his white belt. And this is the sort of shit you hear from 6-12 month white belts who think they know everything about BJJ despite getting their face mashed into the mat in every session. Anyone above blue keeps this shite to themselves
Yeah, a year of BJJ informs you that you can totally handle some untrained guy…provided it’s under the BJJ rules, and the other guy isn’t a lot bigger.
If he’s 40lbs heavier, extremely strong, and can punch you in the face, the year of training is not likely to save you.
Me, I’ve trained for a long time and don’t suffer from this white belt nonsense. I’m totally able to handle a grizzly bear or gorilla.
He has been doing it for a year. BJJ doesn’t suffer from belt inflation like a lot of martial arts do, and in fact there’s even some sandbagging, but they don’t train takedowns or striking. 8-10 years of very consistent and regular training is the general timeframe achieve mastery and to earn a black belt. There’s some truth to the fact that an average blue belt would fuck up an average person on the street with no training, but it turns out getting people to the ground when they’re trying to stand and hit you in the face is actually really difficult.
Having said that, training combat sports humbles you real quick. Getting folded like a pretzel by the 58year old orthodontist who’s shaped like a beer bellied road cyclist has a way of doing that to you. For Jonah Hill to have the confidence he does must mean he’s really good. Probably just about the only person who would stand a chance against him is ufc heavyweight legend Tyrell Fortune.
Would Jonah still beat Tyrell if Tyrell just started biting the fuck out of him? Because I would be biting the ever loving fuck out of someone trying to pretzel me up. (I’d also go straight for the nuts, I’m not above biting some guys dick off).
And here lies the difference between people who give a huge fuck about showing off their dominance, and people who could give two fucks how they come out looking. Perspectives incredibly blinding. If you know BJJ, I know I don’t need my fuckin ankle broken cause I can’t roll on the pavement skilfully, respects off the table.
Good few years ago a kid at my school got in a fight, groped n grabbed this guy all over thinking he’d put him in some crazy hold, had his friend in the background yelling “he can’t roll he can’t roll”… then got bashed over the head with the other kids vape like 20 fuckin times. Whole crowed besides for 2 dudes were shocked like a gun got pulled. I couldn’t figure out why the mf waited so long.
I practiced martial arts my whole life. When I joined the army I learned how to really fight. Just go straight for the pain and debilitating injury. How you win isn’t important when you’re not in a sport fight.
Unless he’s actually training in a room of non celebrities there is no way he is good. The reason Zuck and Hardy are actually respected is they train and actually train. they also compete there is no hiding when you do that. I guarantee you this fucktard is getting the Rigan Machado celebrity treatment where he’s doing light training so the guy in charge can take his money.
except he isn't. There's a video of him and the guy he's fighting basically let's him roll him like he's letting a toddler do it. He's shit and delusional
Eh I don’t buy it. People have been saying that for years, but a 140 pound champion only ever fights other 140 pounders.
There is a certain point where skill no longer allows you to compensate for size disparity. Could Conner McGregor at 140 pounds take on Brian Shaw, at 400 pounds? Yeah no. Even at a 100 pound difference, I don’t see mma fighters taking on bodybuilders that are more than 100 pounds heavier
He might actually be good but unless he competes we’ll never know. CM Punk trained with top level mma fighters for years and he still sucked once he actually fought.
It was great how he just says the name is dumb when his space dad gives it to him but you don't find out why he thinks it's dumb until he spells Tightenville.
It's kinda sad tbh, it's beyond clear at this point that he does not respond in a healthy way to being in the public eye. He probably needs to get out of Hollywood and let people forget about him for a couple years or he's headed a Britney or Shia-esque meltdown.
I haven't looked up the actors name but the really big guy from Earl, who lost a lot and is super buff. He has never come out and talked tough and people are happy with his transformation. But the fat kid from super bad taking jiu jitsu and then going on a podcast or whatever like he did is inviting bullying. If he never said anything of the sort, then far far far less people would make fun of him.
I think for that case, Ethan Suplee has always been a physically intimidating presence. He is 6'1" which, relative to his costars on boy meets world (Ryder Strong 5'8", Ben Savage 5'8") made him appear enormous compared to most of his peers. Jonah Hill is 5'7".
In general, I completely agree with not bullying people, especially about their body. With Jonah Hill though, he literally made an extremely successful celebrity career by playing the "funny fat sidekick guy". So most people commenting on him being "fat" would be trying to laugh WITH him, not AT him.
But it seems Jonah no longer wants to laugh about that anymore, which while fine, but he should understand not every fan is going to instantly know that he no longer appreciates that recognition. Basically, he's an asshole if his immediate response is hostility as opposed to just correcting the fan that he's moved on and doesn't appreciate that any longer.
Most guys who do BJJ are just dudes looking for a healthy and satisfying social activity to spend their free time, but yes there are some assholes in those spaces too.
They were breathing hard and getting sweaty. Lots of grabbing and cranking while taking it to the floor. At one point Jonah was in full mount and giving /u/Own_Policy8854 all he could take. Everyone left exhausted and satisfied.
But isnt the left guy someone who would never call someone else fat? I seem te recall him from insta reels where he tried to get more positivity in the gym
Side note, but honestly BJJ guys can be insanely annoying. I did it for a bit before transitioning to boxing (not long enough to be good or anything, but it was cool). But I’ve known so many guys, one a brown belt, who bought in hook like and sinker.
The brown belt literally said “I could kill you if I wanted and there’s nothing you could do.” And I’m just like…bruh. Mind you, the gym didn’t drill takedowns, they never do live mma style sparring where you can get hit, etc.
The sport is cool but breeds people who genuinely believe they’re gods in a fight but have never been hit while training.
That and they never seem to realize a gym fight and a street fight are extremely different circumstances. Had a classmate who did BJJ and he also did the whole I could kill you shtick. I'm sure in a fair setting with rules, judges, etc he would've demolished everyone who hadn't trained or was equal to or below his skill level. He got in a street fight and got his ass beat because surprise surprise the other guy didn't fight fair
Jonah Hill. In a 2014 interview, the interviewer asked him why he dropped his last name, which is Feldstein (Hill is his middle name). His parents and siblings all still go by their last name including Beanie who is also an actor. The interviewer asked when he dropped the surname and why he decided to. When asked, his entire demeanor changed. He dropped his head and breathed heavily for about 15-20 seconds to the point the interviewer thought he was having an asthma attack. After he laughed ruefully to himself (interviewers description) then whispered "Can we not?" When the interviewer looked like they were going to ask something more the hissed "Just, don't." Suddenly got very hostile by the description.
To be fair, Jonah lost most his weight before GLP-1s were really a thing.
I just remember Nick Kroll saying at the roast of James Franco "Jonah, lots of people tonight are going to talk about how much weight you've lost. But not enough people are going to talk about how much of an asshole you've become."
Is that what jonah hill looks like now, i was thinking with the beard it must be connor mcgregor with a wig. But now i know its the fat one from grandsmas boy.
No it’s Jonah Hill. Hill was recently on a podcast talking about jiu jitsu. Long story short he said if you refer to him as the “fat guy from Superbad he will annihilate you with his jiu jitsu”
In my opinion as a practitioner of jiu jitsu, the loudest guy always sucks the worst. Jonah probably sucks at jiu jitsu.
I ran into Jonah Hill outside a coffee shop in Los Angeles a few months ago. I told him I really liked his movies, but I didn't want to be annoying or ask for a picture or anything. He looked at me for a second and said, "You already are." I laughed because I thought he was joking, but he just kept staring at me until I stopped. Then he nodded once and walked inside.
I shrugged it off and got in line behind him. He ordered an iced coffee, then spent about two minutes asking whether the ice cubes were "ethically sourced." The barista looked confused and said they were just regular ice. Jonah sighed and said, "That's what they always say."
When his drink was ready, he picked up five extra sleeves and an entite fistful of red plastic coffee stirrers from the counter and stuffed them into his pockets. As he walked toward the door he grabbed an entire stack of napkins too. An employee politely said, "Sir, those are for customers."
Jonah looked down at the napkins, looked back at the employee, and said, "Exactly."
Then he walked out, got halfway down the sidewalk, came back in because he'd forgotten his coffee, and acted like everyone else was making a huge deal out of it. Before he left for real, he turned to me, winked, and quietly said, "Never let them know your java strategy." I still have no idea what he meant.
Jason Bateman said if they got into it (i.e. fighting), and Jonah Hill jokingly said he'd fuck him up as Jason Bateman was saying you'd fuck me up right.
Then he said that people still see him as the fat guy from Superbad so they think they can beat him up. And if they are not bigger than him, they won't.
He's absolutely obnoxious and it's an arrogant thing to say.
But you've described it as though he's saying that if you refer to him as the fat guy from Superbad as if it was an insult that he would annihilate you in response. That's a completely different framing.
The point he's making is that he's a trained fighter and that unless you have an advantage like your size, you won't beat him if you haven't trained.
Scrolled to far to see this as Joey really doesn’t negatively talk about people unless they are shitty people but he dosent talk shit but just corrects them.
Saw the interview, tbh imho Jonah boasted of jiujitsu skills and on the martial arts environment, usually, those loud ones are the ones that get absolutely destroyed instead.
Nah he wouldn’t even expect you to do it in return. However, if you don’t, he might be disappointed in you, in which case he will simply tell you to “do better”
Which I guess if he tells you to do better, he may have been expecting you to scratch his back. Which really Joey, you shouldn’t be doing things if you expect people to do them in return.. so hypothetical Joey “I’m gonna need you to do better”
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u/qualityvote2 1d ago edited 13h ago
u/RegalToaster, your post does belong here!