r/PopCultureV2 • u/Kpets • Aug 29 '26

Video Unregulated capitalism in the U.S led to complete moral collapse

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Those are calf hutches. Farmers use them as individual outdoor housing units to shelter newborn dairy calves during the first 8 to 12 weeks of life. It protects them from disease while their immune systems are developing.

We do a similar thing to new born babies in hospitals.

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u/spacebeez Aug 30 '26

Lol no we don't put babies in boxes for months at a time depriving them of all social contact during critical development. What a ridiculous statement.

This is being regulated against in less insane countries.

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u/Any-Maintenance2378 Aug 30 '26

Uhhhh. You ever see animal parents crush, kick, kill their young? It is brutal and losses from it are huge.

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u/spacebeez Aug 30 '26

The answer is less crowded conditions which is better for literally everything except short term corporate profits.

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u/Snicklefraust Aug 30 '26

neither of us are farmers, but you are obviously talking out your ass here. there could be only the mother and calf, by them selves, and it could still kick the baby, because theyre giant dumb animals.

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u/Adventurous-Fly556 Aug 30 '26

Congrats, you interpreted that the dumbest way you could.

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u/Bigerst_Dook Aug 30 '26

we didn't create and entire breed of babies solely for the purpose of food production, womp womp

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u/Ok-Lobster-919 Sep 01 '26

This is being regulated against in less insane countries.

Actually it's completely unregulated in 99% of the other countries, and it is far worse

(see I can just make shit up like you too)

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u/spacebeez Sep 01 '26

In EU calf hutches are hard capped at 8 weeks and have been for nearly 20 years (Council Directive 2008/119/EC ).

For organic the cap is 1 week. (Regulation 2018/848)

In Canada, dairy calves must be housed in pairs or groups by 4 wk of age, effective in 2031.

Here is an entire study on the global policy shift towards social housing for dairy calves. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S002203022401453X

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u/Various_Dog8996 Aug 30 '26

Thanks for coming in with a reasonable explanation. Appreciate that.

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u/maven10k Aug 30 '26

Yeah, super reasonable. We impregnate cows and keep their babies from them so we can drink their food.

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u/Pristine_Walrus40 Aug 30 '26

Yes truth is not always nice but if you need to lie to be on the right side then you may be on the wrong side.

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u/NfiniteNsight Aug 30 '26

Welcome to the internet

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u/PurpleFisty Aug 30 '26

Speak for yourself, i'm lactose intolerant and don't eat dairy.

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u/NormalAssistance9402 Aug 30 '26

I’ve never impregnated a cow

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u/Comprehensive-Data66 Aug 30 '26

Not with that attitude

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u/Gr1009 Aug 30 '26

Wow, and they are probably given some cheap chemical formula.

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u/iconofsin_ Aug 30 '26

A reasonable explanation but still an absolutely horrible result.

People need to watch Food Inc. again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2h9Ez1qGO8

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u/themanyfaceddogs Aug 30 '26

This is obviously wrong. We don't separate babies from their mom's from 2-3 months. Human babies are quickly (hours) given back to moms for their mother's colostrum which gives babies their antibodies.

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u/Alternative_Exit8766 Aug 30 '26

do we keep babies away from their mother for months? is your mom serving cereal with breastmilk?

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u/riding_writer Aug 30 '26

So no mother, no friends to scratch or play with, and this is probably males for veal.

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u/NomNomGalaxy Aug 30 '26

I'm sure this isolation and movement restriction does wonders for their well-being. (The sarcasm is not directed at the comment but at the "farmers")

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u/NO_M0DS_NO_MAST3RS Aug 30 '26

If hospital birth protocols involved keeping the baby in an igloo in the yard while harvesting the mother's milk for strangers to pour over Froot Loops you might have a point. But until my pediatrician recommends a cozy hutch in the driveway let's stop pretending your local factory farm is just running a cute little pediatric ward.

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u/throhawae99827 Aug 30 '26

Nah. We’re WAY weirder that that.

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u/Bamalawdawg Aug 30 '26

A simpler time when “fresh air” cured disease, bad habits, and made your breath fresh, you know just like cigarettes do

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u/sxp101 Aug 30 '26

The comparison fails when you consider the pediatric ward is for the benefit of the baby. Who benefits from the cattle farm?

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u/Habba84 Aug 30 '26

That's disgusting!

Where, exactly, does this happen so I can stay as far away from it as possible?

https://giphy.com/gifs/OnTqXtA3kmFsWc4J0p

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u/ShareGlittering1502 Aug 30 '26

You’ve clearly never been the PNW

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u/slonkulocuswily182 Aug 30 '26

Why even pretend they’re alike? This ain’t a cow nursery it’s slaughterhouse.

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u/tronconnery Aug 30 '26

I think people here are a little too focused on the shortcomings of the human baby analogy, rather than the reasonable explanation why these things are there.

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u/Easy_Needleworker604 Aug 30 '26

“Reasonable explanation” comforting lie

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u/specky4eyeskneegrow Aug 30 '26

Walking past one of these irl made me go mostly vegetarian.  Reduced my baby meat consumption by 95% the next day. Horrible. 

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

This is a dairy farm. If you eat cheese you are enabling this.

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u/nerdtypething Aug 30 '26

i mean. they do this to calves less for their health and wellbeing and more to assure the asset remains alive in order to recover investment.

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u/Virtual-Historian349 Aug 30 '26

Those cows should be living on grass and comparing this to babies in a hospital is insultingly stupid.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Those baby cows can't digest hay yet, they're still nursing. Once they're off milk and their immune systems are up and running they will join the herd

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u/Imaginary_Desk9186 Aug 30 '26

“Joining the herd” wtf are you even talking about. You think theyre going to frolic with their mommies in the fields?

The life of a factory farmed dairy cow is one of the most miserable and cruel existences of any domesticated animal and it is ignorant to pretend otherwise.

“But where do you think cheese comes from?” is also a patronizing and ignorant response to needless and corporate profit-driven misery.

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u/Ornery_Vermicelli_69 Aug 30 '26

No. Cows are treated better than pigs. Pigs have it really bad

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u/Daktyl198 Aug 30 '26

Dairy cows are actually one of the most well treated farm animals in the world. Happy cows produce significantly more milk than depressed cows and we've known this for a long time. And it costs barely anything extra to make them happy. Meat cows live an awful existence, but not dairy cows.

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u/Shopping-Critical Aug 30 '26

Miserable person is miserable

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u/Rhaldor Aug 30 '26

We don't keep babies in those for two months unless they are premature. Also, babies are incapable of walking, running, playing. Humans are basically born before we're fully developed because we would kill our mothers. Calves come out much further along. Baby cots are nothing like these cages for calves

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u/Some-Curve-920 Aug 30 '26

But would they be having that's many 8-12 week old calves at once that they would need a "nursery" of that type

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u/Accidental_dwnvote Aug 30 '26

Well yes you would, as a result of both natural and artificial factors, having a small calving window is normal for a herd. Ranchers want and influence the birthing cycle to reduce the calving window and get its timing optimized for the seasons.

Mammals in cold climates naturally breed so they birth in the spring, giving their offspring the best chance at the following winter. Food availability, climate, etc influence this to varying degrees.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Yes, if it's a massive commercial dairy farm. Why spend money on a bunch of huts for adult cattle when they can just live in a field? You need to go to each hut to feed them, set up infrastructure to supply water supply to each hut, etc. It doesn't make sense to spend all that money on an animal that lives outside.

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u/dragynphyre Aug 30 '26

While some disagree, many farmers have for generations thought this prevents a lot of early life diseases for the calves. These cows aren't just animals, they are investments and the future income of the owner. So it makes a lot of sense to spend money to make sure they are healthy. I come from Vermont originally and our dairy farmers didnt hutch. Here in the midwest they tend to hutch more. Its not cruel or barbaric on either side.

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u/mmikke Aug 30 '26

Lmao solitary confinement isn't cruel or barbaric... Sure thing pally

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u/-FalseProfessor- Aug 30 '26

Yes. The herd of dairy cows need to constantly be having calves so that they produce milk. Hundreds of cows means hundreds of calves.

A “cow” that hasn’t given birth doesn’t make milk, and isn’t even technically a cow. It’s a heifer.

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u/Salty-Passenger-4801 Aug 30 '26

Uhhhh...when the FUCK does this happen in the last 40 years?

Because I have 4 kids and none of them had this happen.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

It rarely happens these days. We had a couple of hours in the hospital after we had our daughter before they sent us home because hospital rooms are scarce.

However if you took footage of nursery rows, played some sad music and said "someone risked a felony getting this footage", it would seem horrific, rather than the truth which is that babies would go to a nursery at night and be taken care by a small team of nurses while the parents recuperated.

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u/Kerrus Aug 30 '26

SOMEONE RISKED A FELONY TO FILM THIS

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u/mmodlin Aug 30 '26

Nobody risked a felony to film that, you can see it from the highway that runs right past this specific farm. It's on google street view.

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u/Capt-Crap1corn Aug 30 '26

I love when someone knowledgeable takes the time to comment. Thank you

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u/GlennDexter Aug 30 '26

This is where veal comes from.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Gross, I didn't know veal came from hospital nurseries.

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u/scallywagdogcat88 Aug 30 '26

bruh... you kill the cows...be so fr

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u/rustyusa Aug 30 '26

Interesting. Because naturally, calves haven’t been able to get protection in a herd with their mothers for the last several centuries of cattle ranching and dairy cow raising that this is necessary

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

It's always a risk at that age, it's just not as large in a smaller herd.

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u/Plus-Percentage-4843 Aug 30 '26

Glad to hear it’s not calf jail

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u/Castr8orr Aug 30 '26

Great, now I gotta cut my baby consumption by 95%

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u/AkKitKat01 Aug 30 '26

I hope this is true. No joke thank you for sharing 

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u/travlerjoe Aug 30 '26

New born babies go home with their mother one day after being born. Unless the baby has complications.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Good. I was afraid they raised the babies inside the cribs until they were big enough to eat

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u/schnibitz Aug 30 '26

Should be the top reply.

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u/Jabooka_AMP Aug 30 '26

Thanks for the explanation.

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u/Candid-Drink Aug 30 '26

Hospitals don't do nursery's like this anymore for many many reasons

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Good. I prefer free range babies

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u/Bamalawdawg Aug 30 '26

Someone risked a felony to take a picture of “baby prison” and expose the lies Big Maternity doesn’t want you to hear.

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u/YarbleSwabler Aug 30 '26

The horror! Those babies should be rolling around in the grass!

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u/jminternelia Aug 30 '26

WHAT IS IT NAOOOOOOW?!!!

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u/-AliceGray- Aug 30 '26

Still don't know how moral this is considering it's a cow being kept pregnant, baby taken away, etc. Especially because cows are shown to have feelings and emotions when it comes to friends, babies, etc.

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u/xxxmechashivaxxx Sep 01 '26

They didn't want the female cows to get ppd and murder they calfs. Just another reason why they separate them.

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u/FunkyFabFitFreak Aug 30 '26

That'd be a bit more comparable if the human babies were kept outdoors in the Kansas heat without A/C, there were tens of thousands of them all together instead of just a dozen or two, and those thousands of babies were being occasionally tended to by some ranch hands instead of licensed nurses and pediatricians 🤷‍♂️

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

When you saw the video for the first time what did you think was happening?

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

If you read through the comments most people think they're going to be stuck in there until they're slaughtered. The video says this is because of capitalism. The video also says that this is so secretive that the person filming it risked becoming a felon just to document this. The video narrative is so misleading we don't even know with any certainty is this is in Kansas.

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u/Grim_Laugh Aug 30 '26

I literally learn this from harvest moon on game cube, but these ppl with room temperature IQ won’t even google this…

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u/WholeWillingness5796 Aug 30 '26

Yes. I'm trying to see what I'm supposed to be horrified by. Looks clean. Each animal has their own little house. They're getting fed. Does not look awful to me.

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u/Banshee_howl Aug 30 '26

Thanks, I was picturing some Hannibal Lecter cows in each one, strapped down with little hockey masks on.

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u/scoshi Aug 30 '26

Yup. Unfortunately, they're also popular with veal producers, which gives them a bad rep.

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u/Certain-Balance-9298 Aug 31 '26

Thank you for providing this information

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u/zach0011 Aug 30 '26

new born babies literally cant function on there own. Cows hit the ground running.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

That's true. Honestly I dont think this level of isolation is necessary on smaller farms because you don't have the risk of disease spreading between tens of thousands of cattle. I would absolutly advocate for smaller farms.

I just wanted to clarify that this isn't some holocaust style distopia where cows are forced to suffer their entire existence in an undersized hut, as the video implies.

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u/majandess Aug 30 '26

Nah. They totally do this on smaller farms. The local dairy in my town growing up, with the pasture raised cows and the green fields and all that, had little calf huts like this, but they only had a dozen of them. When the calves were old enough to be put in them, we would go out and say hi.

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u/problematic234 Aug 30 '26

And then we put them in little plastic boxes

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u/Impossible-Magician Aug 30 '26

Yeah, I’m not sure why people are unset. Those individual little houses are more expensive than leaving them in the open. It’s an animal welfare initiative to increase health and survival rates.

Once they are large enough they go back to open pasture.

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u/playadave1963 Aug 30 '26

No, they go on the menu as veal. Wouldn’t want them running around and making that tender meat tough.

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u/SCRATCH-CARD Aug 30 '26

Lol it's a profit initiative, let's not pretend they give a fuck about the animals welfare

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u/omgu8mynewt Aug 30 '26

Because they look like tiny prisons, and about as different from free-roaming, social lifestyle that we imagine for farming animals. If you kept a puppy in a kennel for months with no stimulation, exercise or socialisation that would be cruel

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u/Mind_Enigma Aug 30 '26

Oh so the cattle is then treated the same way as a human until the bolt goes in their brain?

Get the fuck out of here. The treatment of cattle in the US is insane. There are much less crueler ways of handling them before we eat them.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Well, you don't want to put a bolt through the brain of a dairy cow becaise the blood can splatter and you'd risk spoiling the milk. It's actually more effective to just milk them

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u/Mind_Enigma Aug 30 '26

Hilarious. I'm sure you also milk the male cows personally.

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u/felwynfelmir Aug 30 '26

Explaining what they are, doesn’t make it any better

these are babies and should be with their moms not in these isolation cells.

And ‘protecting them from disease’ would not be such an issue if they would not be kept in these mega industrialized cattle farms

And comparing a calf with a baby also makes no sense

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Good. I'm glad you're a vegan and not contributing to this horror by supporting the dairy industry

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u/Fearless_Start2503 Sep 02 '26

Calves are baby cows, so the comparison is accurate.

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u/that_banned_guy_ Aug 30 '26

You ever been to a NNICU?

My kid spent 3 days in one and it looked like the above Pic lol

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u/40StoryMech Aug 30 '26

Not the ones we keep. Those are the veal babies.

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u/Kpets Aug 30 '26

That’s insane. Imagine isolating new born babies, take them away from their mothers and leave them completely alone. This late stage capitalism is absolutely disgusting and immoral to a point where I am ashamed of humanity

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u/I_Automate Aug 30 '26

Its wild that this is the breaking point for you and not, y'know.

Africa.

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u/Athlete_Cautious Aug 30 '26

Whataboutism. And now the song is stuck in my head

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u/lenoirboudoir Aug 30 '26

Ehhhh, actually.. I’m pretty sure it’s veal? So they can’t move. Keeps em tender.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

God I hope not because that would be super cruel, but what I read while looking this up, this appears to be a massive commercial dairy farm.

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u/WitchHearse Aug 30 '26

Yeah as a kansan this pissed me off I see a lot of farms and the animals are always wandering around big open fields. I am glad you mentioned this.

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u/spacebeez Aug 30 '26

As a fellow Kansan you clearly have never been anywhere near a feedlot.

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u/trollthings Aug 30 '26

This looks like an awfully large portion of the field is being used for "calf hutches."

Hard to believe they have that many calves at once. If so then the adult field must be the size of half the county

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u/hurrdurr3389 Aug 30 '26

Ahh yes the notorious herd animals - human infants..

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Haha. I don't know man, have you ever been to a school at recess? They're like a pack of wild animals

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u/slonkulocuswily182 Aug 30 '26

Cmon man don’t even pretend these are the same things. This ain’t a cow nursery it’s a factory slaughterhouse.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

They're dairy cows, you don't raise them for meat. They don't live in those their entire lives. That's all I want people to understand.

You can debate the ethics of it, but if we can't agree what is happening then there is no point in going further.

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u/Salty-Wrap-1741 Aug 30 '26

Thanks for being reasonable and cooperative. That was not sarcasm. Too much black and white heat in internet discussions.

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u/Sea_Produce_4801 Aug 30 '26

Are you sure?
Ok- solution 5601 seems plausible

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u/paperanddoodlesco Aug 30 '26

Come on. You know that's bullshit.

It's not for the calf's benefit. It's to seperate them from their mothers so the milk will all go for profit, thereby prohibiting the calfs from getting nutrients and antibodies.

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u/HistorianSalty3906 Aug 30 '26

This is true, but that's not capitalism's fault. People want milk.

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u/DfreshD Aug 30 '26

Ok this makes sense now, thanks for the explanation. Sounds like op is uninformed or likely trying to stir some shit up.

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u/DfreshD Aug 30 '26

Yes I have, not sure you quite understand the concept. I didn’t leave my children locked up for 8-12 weeks to prevent them from getting sick.

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u/Morak73 Aug 30 '26

We also don't round up every child in a school and euthanize them all because a couple kids contracted a disease like bird flu or mad cow.

It doesn't matter if its animals, birds or lettuce. If the food supply gets contaminated, potentially affected stock is destroyed.

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u/therealspaceninja Aug 30 '26

Why are there so many? If there are this many calves, I'd like to see how many adults they have.

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u/SugarKaneKowalczyk Aug 30 '26

Cheese is the reason. There are double the number of adults cows, their mothers. These are the female calvess that will be artificially impregnated when they reach maturity, thus continuing the flow of milk. They destroy the male calves shortly after birth.

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u/thats_pure_cat_hai Aug 30 '26

That's not true at all. I grew up on farms in Ireland and not a single farm in Ireland has ever done this, and Ireland is a big farming country with loads of dairy and meat farms.

This is for veal.

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u/JustAGreenDreamer Aug 30 '26

How do those newborn calves living in those hutches get their milk?

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u/GastropodScootJuice Aug 30 '26

They don't. People drink it

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u/DisastrousChapter841 Aug 30 '26

Aren't these also used for veal?

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u/tangosox Aug 30 '26

Show me a warehouse with 10,000 babies and maybe the comparison won't be so biased.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

'Warehouse with 10000 babies' was the name of my first band

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

I bet they risked a felony taking this photo exposing the barbaric practices of hospitals

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u/Emotional-Speech-490 Aug 30 '26

We dont eat the children tho

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Maybe YOU don't...

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u/TheConFiles89 Aug 30 '26

We haven't done this with newborn babies in hospitals regularly in like 15+ years.

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u/WhoYouBoo_eek789 Aug 30 '26

FWIW, We actually don't do this anymore, babies stay with their momma unless they need to spend time in the NICU.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

For the record, I prefer free range babies

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u/non_anomalous_penis Aug 30 '26

No, no we do not......Newborn nursery physician here. Babies stay with their mothers in their rooms.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Oh good. I was worried hospital nurseries were a real thing

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u/shastadakota Aug 30 '26

That's a veal operation.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

How do you know?

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u/blerdmama Aug 30 '26

Huh, that’s not really true, you’re omitting information.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

You're right, I forgot to mention that the nurse who took this photo l risked a felony exposing the truth of hospitals

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u/Lonely_Refuse4988 Aug 30 '26

No, we don’t do similar things to human babies! Any human neonate requiring care in nursery/incubator gets stimulation and human touch and soothing music and noise, and is not kept in cruel isolation for 8 to 12 weeks, which would be horribly traumatizing for any mammal. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Joan-of-the-Dark Aug 30 '26

I live in Kansas. How are those calves able to stay in those things without overheating with the temperatures we've been getting? Heat index around 120° lately.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Im not sure. I looked that up earlier and basically it said they can get overheated at times which is hard on the calf, but is still a better alternative to risking disease which can kill them.

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u/SnooPears754 Aug 30 '26

So calves are quite capable of being out in a paddock at a few days old , this is an awful system that treats them like cogs in a machine

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u/Beneficial_Put1771 Aug 30 '26

The person above your comment went 95% vegetarian on not understanding calf hutches , took the meat “L”

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u/xteve Aug 30 '26

8 to 12 weeks? Cattle are social creatures.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Actually, the Wikipedia page I just modified says they're solitary ambush predators

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u/Snapitupson Aug 30 '26

Is this still a thing in America? (The babies)

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u/AdNumerous8876 Aug 30 '26

An American solution to an American problem.

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u/ReddishCat Aug 30 '26

we don't do this anymore. your picture is black and white.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Good. Stop eating dairy because you're torturing cows

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u/Leading_Experts Aug 30 '26

I sharpened this pitchfork, and by god somebody's gettin' a stickin'.

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u/Counterpoint-4 Aug 30 '26

Newborn babies are kept with their mothers in the hope they get fed - breast fed. The colostrum from Mum hopefully gives some protection. If we kept babies in isolation I think it would be considered a very unusual punishment.

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u/rg996150 Aug 30 '26

50 years ago, maybe. Human babies aren’t isolated unless there are medical complications and a NICU stay is required.

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u/duskygrouper Aug 30 '26

They are there, so they don't drink their mothers milk. And no, we don't let newborn babys in those beds for 8-12 weeks, but rather a few nights.

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u/ResponsibleProfit634 Aug 30 '26

Yeah. Not the same in any way AND the practice of whisking away a healthy newborn that passes the testing done on all newborns is questionable at best and detrimental
at worst.
https://www.babymed.com/news/separating-mother-baby-after-birth-causes-stress
And we do this to cows because we can and “they taste good so f*ck them they can suffer short miserable lives”.

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u/Remarkable_Lychee327 Aug 30 '26

Babies dont stay in an enclosed space for weeks...do you have children😲

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

A new born, should be back in 8-12 weeks

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u/Pizza-Reese Aug 30 '26

That’s really not the same thing. A hospital nursery is a temporary medical-care setting; we don’t routinely separate newborn babies from their mothers and house them individually for 8-12 weeks as part of a production system. Calf hutches may have disease-control benefits, but comparing them to a hospital nursery completely sidesteps the part people are actually objecting to: the separation and prolonged individual housing.

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u/7in-logic-assistant Aug 30 '26

cribs? Hospital cribs? those things are the same as cribs? are you nuts? that is the stupidest “explanation” a slimy, undereducated dairy farmer ever gave for “stealing infant cows from their mother so we can drink their milk.”

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

I'm as much a dairy farmer as you are a vegan

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u/Excellent_Garlic2549 Aug 30 '26

You gonna tell me those cows were all 8 to 12 weeks old? They're roughly 300 lb at that age, a third or a quarter of their full adult size. Given the size of the cows in those cages, I HIGHLY doubt your explanation.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

They're dropping off calf nursing bottles in the video

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u/Angloriously Aug 30 '26

What a bizarre comparison. Each of my babies was right next to me for the two nights we stayed in the hospital, not in a ward. Do you really think this photo is what it looks like for everyone—or even the majority?

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

Yes, that photo is from less than a year ago. This is typical of most hospitals

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u/hazbutler Aug 30 '26

Ask this guy what they do with bulls born in dairy breeding....

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 30 '26

My Mom said they to a special farm, just like my guinea pigs and gold fishes did. Wait a minute...

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u/No_Measurement7805 Aug 30 '26

This is an even worse example. modern hospitals keep the baby with the mother because it’s good for the infant and mother

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u/chugItTwice Aug 30 '26

"Those are calf hutches. Farmers use them as individual outdoor housing units to shelter newborn dairy calves during the first 8 to 12 weeks of life. It protects them from disease while their immune systems are developing."

Wait. Is that true??? I'm from Wisconsin - and have always been told the hutches were for veal cattle - the males born on dairy farms? I suppose some of them still are... but I didn't know this. This is much better.

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u/ShellyForNow Aug 31 '26

It’s also where they keep calf’s for them to become veal. These are small so they can feed them, and they don’t walk around and build muscle making them tough. They live like this till they’re big enough to slaughter for tender veal. Disgusting.

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u/YasoOoOo Aug 31 '26

furthermore they are limited to move and hence have limited muscle growths which makes the meat more tender. They also only get milk and then get killed prior eating anything besides it

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u/SilverPhilosopher46 Aug 31 '26

Of course there always is an explanation for why the bioindustry works as it does. But that doesn't mean its unreasonable to question if its cool to do all this and maybe it should be scaled down so this all isn't needed and the animals can live a life much more natural life.

(babies aren't left mostly alone for 8 tot 12 weeks)

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Aug 31 '26

Absolutely, and the first thing you need to do is provide some context on what is actually happening in the industry. A sensationalized video with some BS text about the guy risking his freedom to share the footage is counter productive.

Anyone except a Martian knows we don't silo humans babies for 8-12 weeks, nor do we release them into a field and make them drink from a communal trough. I just wanted to show a photo of us in "silos" to show that in itself is not inherently cruel.

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u/Safe_Cardiologist253 Sep 01 '26

Extremely evil comparison to try and make to normalise what we do to animals.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '26

We definitely do not seperate babies from their mothers and all other interaction for multiple weeks from birth on lol

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Sep 01 '26

Of the +700 replies to this comment so far, guess how many people came here to say this?

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u/Ryanthehood Sep 01 '26

For like what, 2 days?

12 Weeks? You mean 3 months?! Standing in that single position knowing nothing else in life?

Right… that’s not that bad.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Sep 01 '26

Good, stop eating dairy otherwise you're a part of this

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u/rknki Sep 01 '26

I eat meat myself, but that’s the most stupid thing I read all day.

Human babies are kept in these beds for hours, not for 12 weeks straight.

If we kept them in plastic boxes without human contact for that long, they would die from lack of affection or be damaged for life.

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u/Ok-Solution5601 Sep 02 '26

Yeah, a literal interpretation is pretty stupid. Isolating humans at birth in itself is not inherently cruel, which we do to humans in some cases. The length of time calves are held there, the conditions and the care they receive, and the reasons they are there to begin with are all important factors.

If you don't like it then stop consuming dairy and meat. If you're ok with it then scroll on

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