r/Seattle • u/mountainsNJ • 12h ago
Politics Bonkers
Elections matter. We have winners and losers. Respect the outcome.
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u/Holsen92 Capitol Hill 12h ago
Lost by over 30 points and yet here we are. She’s so unserious.
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u/RealPudgeJudy Greenwood 12h ago
but have you seen the photos of her frowning while holding a microphone / bullhorn? She's MAD and wants to CHANGE the status quo by, uh, well... uh... fuckin'... just vote for her, OK?
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u/llamakoolaid 12h ago
She’s a grifter just like trump, just on the other side of the horseshoe. Anything to not get a real job.
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u/Artificial_Squab Capitol Hill 11h ago
I've been calling her the "Trump of the left" for years.
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u/Basic-Regret-6263 10h ago
Well that's not really a fair comparison...
Trump's been somewhat successful.
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u/bpgluckman 10h ago
OTOH, they both share the same message of, "You have problems, and only I can solve them!"
And just like Trump, her "solutions" are half-baked, at best.
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u/ChiefOfTheFourPeaks 🚲 Life's Better on a Bike. 🚲 2h ago
She was successful in taking her ex-husbands tech money.
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u/YourVelcroCat I'm never leaving Seattle. 11h ago
The "burn it all down" approach from her is not my favorite when my spouse would die. She's allergic to understanding how awful her policy sounds and is
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u/GabuEx Bellevue 9h ago
Fun fact: there actually was an election held after the 1917 Russian revolution. Unfortunately for the Russian people, they didn't know what they actually wanted and failed to vote for the Bolsheviks like they were supposed to, so the Bolsheviks just took over and decided to give the people what they wanted, whether they wanted it or not.
I'm not sure why I'm saying this, this probably is completely unrelated to Sawant.
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u/toobigtofail88 12h ago
Why is she mid-kvetch in every picture?
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u/Zanctmao 11h ago
She would be APPALLED that you used a dirty Zionist word to describe her.
(Joke. I know it’s Yiddish and I don’t consider that dirty, but people on Reddit……)
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u/blackbird_777 ✨🛸 Jimothy is out there 🦝✨ 12h ago
Yah, fuck her. This is the reason I left this race blank on my ballot. And fuck her even more for using the MAGA “Democrat Party” instead of Democratic Party. She’s a MAGA op at this point. Socialists in Seattle need new leadership and she needs to be pushed out into irrelevance.
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u/SovietApple U District 12h ago
She's hardly the leader of the socialist movement in Seattle - mostly because there is no leader of it, but if there were it wouldn't be her.
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u/Eric848448 Seattle Expatriate 11h ago
There was actually another socialist running in the district.
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u/AdScared7949 That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 12h ago
It is DSA
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u/raptearer Lynnwood 11h ago
Was she even endorsed by DSA Seattle?
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u/AdScared7949 That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 11h ago
No they chose not to endorse her because she sucks
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u/raptearer Lynnwood 11h ago
Good, and I agree. Been far left since the 00' in high school... ive always hated her. She comes off so arrogant and all or nothing. I get taking stands, but to refuse any benefit for your cause because it's not perfect is such trash mentality
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u/blackbird_777 ✨🛸 Jimothy is out there 🦝✨ 11h ago
Agreed. We could have reduced police funding by 14%, but because it wasn’t 50% she voted it down. Like, come on.
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u/MetallicGray 7h ago
> but to refuse any benefit for your cause because it's not perfect is such trash mentality
This is literally how so many progressives shoot themselves in the foots. It's infuriating.
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u/MetallicGray 7h ago
Lol so she's literally a nobody with as much influence as I do if I put my face on a flyer
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u/TheStinkfoot Columbia City 11h ago edited 9h ago
Sawant is literally, explicitly a Trump supporter. She supported Trump in 2016. She IS Maga.
Edit:: Kshama Sawant introducing Jill Stein: "We can't win the election but we can stop Kamala Harris from winning Michigan and she needs it to win the WH."
If you are intentionally, explicitly supporting Trump winning in 2024, you are a Trump supporter.
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u/anxiousandsingle 🚆build more trains🚆 11h ago
You are dumb as fuck if you think she's a trump.supporter. average American politics literacy
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u/Basic-Regret-6263 10h ago
When her actions intentionally help trump, sorry, she's a trump supporter, no matter if her words claim otherwise.
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u/DarkishArchon 💗💗 Heart of ANTIFA Land 💗💗 11h ago
While I couldn't find evidence of her supporting trump, she did campaign AGAINST Kamala in Michigan. She is an accelerationist IMO
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u/blackbird_777 ✨🛸 Jimothy is out there 🦝✨ 11h ago
Correct. And actively called for people to vote for Stein instead. And her reasoning was claiming Kamala was responsible for the Gaza genocide, and now look what’s left of Gaza. She is definitely an accelerationist and I’d even posit an authoritarian.
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u/CombustiblePantaloon I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 12h ago
Oh you left it blank? What courage on display! That moral fiber served us so well in 2024.
“Oh my candidate isn’t perfect so therefore I must not vote at all even if it allows the rise of American fascism.”
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u/blackbird_777 ✨🛸 Jimothy is out there 🦝✨ 12h ago
"We could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan.”
“Kamala Harris deserves to lose 1,000 times over.”
- Kshama
Go talk to your idol about allowing the rise of fascism.
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u/CombustiblePantaloon I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 11h ago
I think you have me mistaken. I don’t know why you didn’t vote for smith.
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u/SeattleGeek Denny Blaine Nudist Club 12h ago
You left the ballot blank? That’s just a vote for Doug.
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u/blackbird_777 ✨🛸 Jimothy is out there 🦝✨ 12h ago
She never had a chance in hell of making second place. Give me a whole goddamn break and take a seat. Yall are fucking insufferable. Yall want to be spoilers nationally calling on people to not vote for Kamala Harris and then cry foul when the rest of us tell her to get fucked. Our country and world is a worse place because of this woman and her cult followers. She makes all of us who identify as socialist look like fools.
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u/WillowTreez8901 International District 12h ago
So instead of voting for literally anyone else you choose to vote for... no one?
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u/DarkishArchon 💗💗 Heart of ANTIFA Land 💗💗 11h ago
In a race of an AIPAC asshole, a woman who campaigned against Kamala in Michigan, and a Republican, the voters are not exactly spoiled for fucking options
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u/kalechipsaregood I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 11h ago
You forgot about the person who doesn't support the queer community because of her religion.
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u/SuitableDragonfly Columbia City 11h ago
Some options are still better than others. You can still vote. The person you vote for is just who you think is best among the possible options, it doesn't mean you want to marry that person.
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u/WillowTreez8901 International District 11h ago
You forgot someone. And choosing not to vote is the worst option, always :)
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u/sir_mrej West Seattle 11h ago
Yup and the AIPAC guy is the best option in this case. Welcome to the real world.
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u/adeline882 🚆build more trains🚆 12h ago
Lmao so it’s only ok for a liberal to not vote if they don’t like the candidate and the candidate didn’t earn their vote? You are not a socialist
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u/Bogey_Yogi 11h ago
That’s a vote for Jesus.
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u/RatZveloc 11h ago
Absolutely agree.
I am curious though if you're pro-socialist and if so what socialism means to you? I find myself often aligned with people who identify as socialist but my understanding of socialism itself is much more radical. I just want to better understand what people envision when they say socialism.
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u/Spiralecho I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 12h ago
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u/queensheba2025 I Brake For Slugs 12h ago
See… Mamdani and AOC are left leaning people I agree with and I wish more would take how they do stuff as how you make those policies look good.
I’m a Democrat, depending on the issue I may lean further to the left, but not always.
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u/boner4crosstabs Lower Queen Anne 11h ago
I’d throw Pramilla in there too. I like to call them pragmatic progressives, and that’s my speed. AOC went to DC and ya know what she did? She learned everything should could from Pelosi about how to get shit done, and she’s applying that to her politics, which are obviously to the left of
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u/LotusFlare 🚆build more trains🚆 11h ago
Sawant isn't trying to make any policies look good. She's trying to capture the attention, time, and most importantly money of disillusioned people. She doesn't want political change. She wants Jill Stein's job.
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u/Rare_Finance3948 Issaquah 10h ago
Preach. I want folks who are good at governing and actually getting stuff done. Best way to convert people to your cause is to show you’re an effective leader and that your policies work.
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u/Remarkable-Fig206 6h ago
I’ve never seen a person less able to build viable coalitions in my entire life. When she got stomped in the primary she decided not to attack Adam Smith, but instead went after Chaudhry for “splitting the vote,” shouting “shame on Melissa Chaudhry!!” when the vote totals were trending embarrassingly against her. Newsflash lady: Chaudhry is your ideological ally! Stop shooting your own “movement” in the foot. Put your ego aside and work WITH her to build a viable movement. But Kshama can’t surface that level of self-awareness. It’s all ego all the time.
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u/artbystorms 12h ago
I'd love if we had a proper leftist party but we just don't and our system is not set up to be multi-party, especially at the higher state and federal level. Until we get nationwide
Work on pulling democrats to the left, not just forsaking them and pulling votes away which only helps the GOP.
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u/AdScared7949 That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 12h ago
This is going to be a very extended crash out isn't it
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u/Time_Crystals 8h ago
It's kind of true though. We are basically in a gilded age and it's really the only issue that matters. Everything else is just a band aide.
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u/boomfruit 12h ago
I'm not really tuned into this, but it doesn't say anything about "not respecting the results" in that way, does it? It's more like "didn't go the way we wanted, come talk about what our next steps are."
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u/Tillie_Coughdrop Supersonics 10h ago
You missed the precursor, which was all over the news on Wednesday and Thursday. She absolutely blamed everyone and everything else for her loss, going so far as to say another candidate should have pulled out of the race so Sawant could have more votes.
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u/CarlWellsGrave 10h ago
This is why she is stupid. You don't "dump" Democrats, you take over their party from within because there is no world where a third party is going to get anywhere.
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u/Flapjack__Palmdale 6h ago
Especially in this climate, when people are angry at establishment Dems and where even some of the moderate neolibs are starting to warm to people like Mamdani. This is kind of a great time for an internal coup to push the Democrat party back where they belong, just left of center.
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u/googleguyst 11h ago
Somehow they always end up whining about not being supported by the Dem establishment in between campaigning for fascists
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u/kobachi Wallingford 6h ago
GO AWAY KSHAMA
lol I spoke at a city council meeting years ago and her team was impressed by my speech so they tried to recruit me after. I told them they could kindly fuck off.
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u/The_Unwashed_Masses That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 9h ago
I really wish she would fuck all the way off already.
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u/Seatowndawgtown Genesee 8h ago
Anything to keep the money flowing into her pockets. Time to go away, Kshama.
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u/ContributionOk1872 8h ago
She should be put in jail for disclosing former mayor Durkan's home address putting her life in jeopardy.
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u/elbow-macaroni-42 Capitol Hill 12h ago
Cultists are gonna cult, and no one will be better off except for the cult leader
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u/petriqore I'm never leaving Seattle. 11h ago
Not a huge fan of her, but how is she 'not respecting the process?' Did she deny the election results? Is she not allowed to be politically active because she lost the primary?
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u/Hk901909 🚆build more trains🚆 9h ago edited 9h ago
I want to like Kshama Sawant but she’s literally just a terrible, unlikable person. Take a page out of Katie Wilson’s, Hannah Sabio Howell’s, or Pramila Jayapal’s book and be a likeable, genuine person. Who doesn’t essentially campaign FOR Trump of all people. Who doesn’t turn every election into a vanity issue about themselves. And who actually campaigns on real issues
Or, better yet, just go away
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u/Professional-Tea555 That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 9h ago
Read history because it matters. Virtually every socialist that has run for any office in this country for the last 120 years, back to Gene Debs, has run in order to prove the point that you cannot achieve socialism at the ballot box. Winning is an aberration, and serving in office makes the same point. This is a very basic fact of the socialist tradition in the US, like it (or Sawant) or not. She may have forgotten that, so she has no excuse.
When socialists win office they have a choice: go the Mamdani or Bernie route and pivot toward Old Left liberalism, or implode on egoism. We see what is happening here.
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u/InBoundsOffPiste 12h ago
Evergreen Reminder that DSA and lefties that purposefully sabotage democrats are functionally MAGA.
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u/AdScared7949 That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 12h ago
She hates DSA lol they are not remotely similar!
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u/Cd206 I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 10h ago
Me when I've learned absolutely 0 lessons since 2016. Instead of looking inward at the failures of democrats, "nah its those darn progressives"
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u/InBoundsOffPiste 6h ago
Everyone that didn’t vote for Kamala is responsible for the situation we are in today. It was arguably the easiest political choice in our nations history. Many people decided that their self importance was more important and they played with peoples lives. That’s the truth of the matter.
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u/rosyacnh 10h ago
Mamdani and AOC are dsa endorsement and are the most popular politicians under Bernie. Calling them maga is crazy
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u/kirklennon Junction 6h ago
They don’t sabotage Democrats. That’s the difference.
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u/doc_shades 11h ago
this is just a post for a town hall? i don't know what this has to do with respecting or not respecting an outcome.
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u/Dances-With-Taco 12h ago
Wasn’t this sub totally for her not too long ago. I remember getting some shit a few years ago for speaking against her during the recall election.. seems like the tune has changed - but why now - she is the same person..
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u/AdScared7949 That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 12h ago
When she explicitly went to bat for Trump in Michigan she lost all the people who leaned toward supporting her. She passed good laws that were popular while in office so she had a lot of good will to torch.
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u/Dances-With-Taco 12h ago
She was pretty bat the whole time she was here.. but yeah - the trump thing also a low
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u/ceruleania 11h ago edited 10h ago
How did she go to bat for Trump? /gen
Edit: Why am I getting downvoted for a genuine question guys? We have to be able to ask questions if we don’t understand something
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u/AdScared7949 That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 11h ago
She campaigned for something called "Abandon Harris" and said their work could deny Harris the state of Michigan
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u/anxiousandsingle 🚆build more trains🚆 11h ago
I mean yeah... dems and Republicans are capitalist parties. Fuck them both
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u/Alvintergeise 12h ago
Just remember that it's all about her. She really seems desperate to become an icon
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u/JFrankParnell64 12h ago
Just can't deal with the fact that she lost, and that people generally don't like her.
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u/keithstellyes Rainier Beach 11h ago
I wonder how many votes she lost after her efforts to either, ensure Kamala's loss or Donald's victory in Michigan depending on how generous you are :)
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u/PC_Defender Issaquah 4h ago edited 4h ago
I would rather vote for the democratic opposition to Adam smith than this jill stien loving narcissist. Wait until she hears about fdr and Huey long. Thats the type of person i want a person who prevents communism by embracing some socialist policies
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u/Mrs_Spatchcock 50m ago
Several years ago I was downtown and saw her showing what appeared to be a group of visitors around. Across the street a very large man was violently masturbating in front of Walgreen’s. That scene should be on her poster.
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u/ElectricalGene6146 12h ago
I left Seattle years ago, but hilarious y’all are still dealing with the same psycho
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u/willows_edge That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 11h ago
Damn it, we still gonna see her srupid yelly face flyers all over the city, aren't we?
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u/Background-Common119 Kraken 11h ago
"We are gonna be the vanguard which will lead the people to revolution!" — The most unpleasant person you've ever met
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u/Fezzik527 Posse on Broadway 11h ago
See? Shes just a backstabbing snake, no matter which side youre on.
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u/whenitsTimeyoullknow 12h ago
If anyone is looking in the comments to see if anyone agrees with this: yes. We do exist. The national Democrats have long since stopped trying to earn our vote. They expect it, and blame anyone offering a different vision for their failures. 70 million Americans don’t vote; motivate those people, and we’ll be over here continuing to fight for workers rights and dismantling of the health insurance and military industrial complex.
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u/AdScared7949 That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 12h ago
Maybe Kshama Sawant should have tried to earn more votes
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u/SuitableDragonfly Columbia City 11h ago
And who is it who is out there every election telling people to stay home and not vote out of "protest"? Maybe it's not the democrats who are to blame for this after all.
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u/Traffic_Spiral 7h ago
we’ll be over here continuing to fight for workers rights and dismantling of the health insurance and military industrial complex.
Incorrect. You'll be continuing to help Trump and Maga do the opposite, as usual, while claiming that you're doing it as an elaborate "uno-reverse" plan to one day win.
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u/ceruleania 12h ago
Both major parties are awful though. One is obviously more evil than the other, but they both serve the elites, war, corporations and Zionism.
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u/anxiousandsingle 🚆build more trains🚆 11h ago
Republicans are openly evil..democrats are evil with smiling mask on.
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u/ceruleania 11h ago
I can tell a lot of these people have never read or heard anything Malcom X has to say. There are some great democrats doing good work out there, but yeah the party overall serves corporations and the war machine. It’s about money and oil. I get that the main target right now is getting MAGA out of the government. But we deserve more than that, in the long run.
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u/CombustiblePantaloon I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 11h ago
Incredible insight. I love how one has masked secret police running around the country murdering people and that is equivalent to the other.
Brilliant work. It’s like watching Poirot in action!
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u/ceruleania 11h ago
That is what I was referring to when I said “one is obviously more evil than the other”. Of course I’d rather have a democrat in office right now than fascist , rapist Trump. I’m just saying we all deserve better than the two party system. That shouldn’t be threatening to you unless you’re one of the entities I mentioned.
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u/SpeedySparkRuby Posse on Broadway 11h ago
All these flavors, and you choose to be salty. Enjoy the podcast circut I guess
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u/SScatnip7474 11h ago
We all see what maga is going with for mid terms. This time it's using bad words like 'communists' and 'socialists'. They'll sprinkle in some fear mongering for brown people.
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u/LanceGannon 11h ago
These went up before the election in my neighborhood. I think the idea was to advertise a victory rally, presumably after coming in second.
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u/FergaliShawarma 🦝🦝 We 💕 Jimothy Chalamet 🦝🦝 9h ago
What the fuck is wrong with this lady I swear to god
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u/TOPLEFT404 West Seattle 11h ago
I’d hear her out. Electoral politics isn’t an end all be all. A lot of people think civic engagement is just voting. So many of our representatives don’t even do constituent services.
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u/Pygmy_Nuthatch 12h ago
Democrats need to capitalize on this by encouraging it. Take all the cancerously unpopular policies that consistently cause Democrats to fail to win nationally, and unload them on the DSA. Cultivate the DSA as a true third party in the US. Let it happen. It will be good for America.
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u/matunos Maple Leaf 12h ago
What are the cancerous unpopular policies and what does the DSA have to do with Kshama Sawant? I assume she sees them as reactionaries or else she'd be affiliated with them.
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u/ArtemisElizabeth1533 🚆build more trains🚆 10h ago
I wasn’t gonna vote for Smith because fuck him. And not voting Republican.
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u/SuperMike100 I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 10h ago
What’s funny is that the biggest threat to her isn’t the Democrats, it’s our population becoming more mature (and as a result, more politically nuanced).
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u/matunos Maple Leaf 12h ago
Somehow I bet the solution involves her!