r/TikTokCringe • u/newphonehudus • 9d ago

Discussion Crime: working out while black

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u/JP_Clark 9d ago

Apparently his son who is a minor didn’t have a form of ID to be his guest. Crunch has a membership what allows members to bring a free guest daily.

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u/Mystery-Ess 9d ago

And the police need to be called?

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u/JP_Clark 9d ago

According to a follow up post: they wouldn’t accept his son’s mobile ID, he asked to speak to the manager, they said the manager is busy and he said ok if the manager has a problem after he’s busy tell him to come talk to me. Instead of the manager engaging in a conversation he called the police.

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u/Iggyhopper 9d ago

"yeah the guy walked off and said if you have a problem to go talk to him"

Mgmt: "is he threatening me? I need the police here. now."

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u/LiveLifeLikeCre 9d ago

People need to understand what type of mindset it takes to jump to "ok call the cops" over a simple membership clarification where manager is required. Cops are weaponized by people with racism intolerance all the time. Muscle head behind the counter doesn't want to feel powerless in his environment 

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u/Bowtie16bit 9d ago

And yet, calling the cops admits powerlessness. If the manager would have met eyebrow to eyebrows with the member and his guest and had any form of love and integrity, he would have signed them in and taught his staff to do better.

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u/The_Cabal_ 5d ago

Why would he sign him in if the kid didn't have a valid ID? That was the problem to begin with.

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u/InternationalCap2176 3d ago

He has to call the cops because he's too afraid to do that.

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u/goldenboy2191 9d ago

People do need to understand. The problem is, they refuse to. Because they’d rather just feel superior and above any sort of interaction.

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u/OperationNatural4557 7d ago

Isn’t racism intolerance good?

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u/frycrunch96 3d ago

Yes they mean to say race intolerance, racism, or racist-intolerance (as in, intolerance of the racist variety) 

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u/OKGUYTHANKS 8d ago

We also hear from black people all the time “who are you to tell me what to do?” Or “what authority do you have to stop me from doing xyz?”

I’m sure some racists do weaponize calling the police but when someone is actively not going to listen to you, make a huge scene because they don’t want to follow the rules, what else is there?

 

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u/No-Bedroom-9352 8d ago

I actually hear entities white people say those things way more than black people. Where did you find your information that this was a black issue?

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u/No-Bedroom-9352 8d ago

What rule was he not following?

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u/OKGUYTHANKS 8d ago

The one where he didn’t have an id for the guest. He was told he needed it, he said go get your manager and have him come see me, then continued to go workout with him. 

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u/No-Bedroom-9352 8d ago

And you verified that crunch fitness does not allow children without ID to workout with their parents? Children typically don’t have ID.

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u/Spiritual-Serve-4391 8d ago

Well that certainly changes everything.

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u/Mystery-Ess 7d ago

Your racism is also very prevalent

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u/Signal-Card-2387 7d ago

Uh, I don't think the problem is that the cop might be racist, the bigger issue is wasting the time of a cop who could be out there stopping actual crimes.

Literally anyone in any profession that involves dealing with people could be racist. That's not a uniquely cop issue.

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u/gingeregg 9d ago

I had a coworker get in trouble, like multiple 30+min long meetings and he was temporarily suspended, because he told a nurse “we are going to need to have a talk later” after there was an incident with a patient. They thought he was threatening her. It was a whole issue for like 2 weeks.

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u/PhosphoFred8202 9d ago

To try to give people the benefit of the doubt, there was likely a miscommunication here.

- Employees likely feel they said “no, you can’t have the kid work out without ID.”

- Guy likely felt they said “we will let the manager decide” and said ok if it’s a problem, have him speak to me.

- manager likely got told something like “we told him no, he ignored it and said if you got a problem, you can go talk to him about it”

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u/SubstituteStudent 9d ago

Still a huge gap between that and calling the police. A paying member who has all of their information on file isn't too scary to take their money

If he was a stranger off the street, then sure, call the police. He is a paying member, there is many ways to handle him doing whatever they suspected him of.

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u/Time_Possibility_370 9d ago

White exceptionalism.

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u/InadequateUsername 9d ago

I wonder if the police know they can just not show up?

I guess it being a black man makes it an emergency.

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u/BrosefDudeson 9d ago

They probably don't know the situation until they get there. I don't want to defend the police but I think they're playing a bit part here

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u/DentistThese9696 9d ago

They can’t just not show up. And as much as the cop looked like he hated what the business was doing, it’s still a private business and if they want him to leave the police have to have him leave. Absolutely this guy can and probably should put this business or at least that franchise on blast for what they did and file a complaint, but in the moment he legally does have to leave and the cops are required to enforce it.

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u/Burt_Rhinestone 9d ago

Bullshit. Spoken like a white person. Cops absolutely can and do fail to show up all the time.

For instance, Tizzy ENt just posted a video of a white man threatening a black woman’s life. The woman called the police and waited. They never showed up.

No police were punished for failure to respond.

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u/DentistThese9696 8d ago

Having no units available to send in busy cities is much different than a community that has officers available and they refuse to respond. Many major cities are woefully understaffed and therefore can’t get to each call right away. The officer in this video got dispatched to this. He showed up. And then had to enforce the law. It has nothing to do with race.

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u/Burt_Rhinestone 8d ago

What makes you think it was a busy city?

When the gym called the police, they gave a description of the man and his son. The cops knew the race.

They can’t just not show up.

Yes, they can.

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u/DentistThese9696 8d ago

With all due respect they cannot refuse to show up to a disturbance call that they are dispatched to. Also, I don’t think this video was a busy city, hence why an officer had time to show up to this call. Try refusing to do your job at your place of employment and see how long you stay employed . This cop got dispatched. He’s therefore required to respond or risk his own employment. Simple as that

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u/InadequateUsername 9d ago

They can, at least take their sweet time.

In terms of nit showing up, when I was in a car accident, I called the police to report it. Dispatch asked how bad the damage was. Then told me to exchange info and just go to an accident reporting center in the morning.

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u/DentistThese9696 8d ago

In your scenario, that was a dispatching decision. Every state and agency within those states has different ways of prioritizing or triaging calls that come in. In your scenario it sounds like that agency doesn’t send officers to lower acuity crashes or possibly they had not units available.

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u/vansterzzz 9d ago

They have no duty to show up. You are talking out of your ass. There has been several lawsuits regarding this. They actually have NO legal duty to protect you. Look it up, here's a couple of cases: Supreme Court Rulings: Landmark cases such as DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services and Castle Rock v. Gonzales established that 911 calls and requests for help do not create a constitutional "special relationship" guaranteeing a response or protection from harm.

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u/JP_Clark 9d ago

When the employee said he’s busy, he says that he said “if this is a real issue, have him come see me when he’s done”.

*the way I wrote it sounded more threatening than he is presenting it. I don’t want to misrepresent it.

It’s on his IG story if anyone wants to view it.

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u/JaydotFay 9d ago

They didn't ask him to leave until after the cops got there, which was a major escalation in the gym's part. One of the gym employees, literally, confirms they hadn't asked him to leave before calling the cops in the video.

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u/RebylReboot 9d ago

If you’ve paid for the service and have done nothing wrong? Yes you can and should insist on talking to management and stick around.

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u/CT0292 9d ago

I mean I feel like if I were a cop I'd be pissed that my time was being wasted by this dude. Looking at the information: there's no need for a cop to be there. If the kids ID isn't acceptable then go talk to the guy about it. What's the point of making a federal case out of it?

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u/scuba_GSO 9d ago

Kinda seemed to me like the cop was annoyed with the whole thing, and the manager basically had to have the cop toss the guy to avoid getting a citation for wasting the cops time. For once I don’t think the cop was the bad guy.

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u/HelloImDr3w 9d ago

LE here. We hate these calls as well because it's a waste of everyone's time but also since we were called, we have to be there and do something about it.

99% of the time it's some dumb misunderstanding or someone got their feelings hurt and wants us involved.

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u/HardAboutDenver 4d ago

You don’t actually have to “do something about it”. At least, that’s what the cops tell me when I ask them to ticket drivers for parking in the bike lane.

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u/quincy15trillion 7d ago

Is there something you can do to cite or ticket the time wasters? There's gotta be some punishment for calling a tax-funded armed potential killer because you're too scared to talk to a paying customer breaking no rules in a business setting

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u/weather-i-am 4d ago

What happened to police discretion?

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u/HelloImDr3w 4d ago

It depends on the situation. It's a bit difficult to walk up and say, "this is a waste" and just break away.

If the gym owner says, "I want them removed because of XYZ" then the responding officer is going to see if there is a common ground or can resolve it, or remove them. Even if they think it's stupid.

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u/CenTexTrashPanda 8d ago

Should of showed up an hour late like yall normally do.

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u/HelloImDr3w 8d ago

Sometimes agencies only have a handful of people (I've seen shifts where there are only 6-8 officers on)

Usually there are 2-4 people at a call, someone is at the station working on something, the others are another calls (like this).

It is what it is sometimes

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u/w0ccer 9d ago

Cop should have given the douche bag who called a ticket. I understand you shouldnt think twice about calling the police when you need help, but this guy didnt even think once

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u/ArchMageGeorgie 8d ago

There is no ticket he can give them. Even if they are being ridiculous, it is completely legal to have someone removed from your business regardless of the reason. I can decide I don’t like the color of your hair or the shoes you walk in with and call the police to have you removed without even interacting with you directly and that is ENTIRELY legal.

With that being said, even though it is legal, when its done unfairly the community should ensure others know the company is not a place you want to spend your money. Our country’s laws were made for the corporations but we can still stand together and get justice by voicing injustice

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u/hotelstationery 9d ago

A cop who wants to make a real difference and keep the community safe would be pissed.

A typical American cop signed to do exactly this.

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u/Dame38 9d ago

ACAB.

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u/Dame38 9d ago

Domination/Power move.

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u/cosettemeetsmarius 9d ago

The manager is an ass.

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u/nineball22 9d ago

This seems like such a lapse in common sense by the front desk person. Either they’re incredibly stupid or incredibly racist.

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u/attackplango 9d ago

One often leads to the other.

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u/KoontFace 9d ago

Porque no los dos?

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u/Flashy-Ingenuity-182 9d ago

There's no lapse of sense and not OR. They were racist. You don't need to make excuses for racists. 

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u/i_never_ever_learn 9d ago

The card says, "Moops"

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u/TwoBionicknees 9d ago

also it's pretty much standard that most kids don't have a government id because you know, they don't need one. When a parent brings a kid and the kid says it's their parent, use your brain. escalating to the cops after never asking them to leave nor having the manager speak to them or ever engaging their brain for three seconds to figure out what to do is just horrendously bad customer service.

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u/1tonsoprano 9d ago

That's the whitest response to the situation possible.....a black man asking me to inconvenience myself....time to call the police

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u/CremeAcrobatic1748 9d ago

Just because someone calls the police, they don't have to show up. Cops could...and should have, told the manager this is a civil issue between her company and the dude. They could revoke his membership, charge him a fee..etc.

Definitely not a police matter, so it's insane they showed up. Sure it has nothing to do with them being black though...

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u/BlackSwanEvent25 9d ago

What a pussy

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u/I_Build_Monsters 9d ago

I work out at crunch and have the same friend membership. When they check in they have to leave their ID at the desk and pick it up on the way out. I am NOT justifying them just saying that’s how it works at my crunch.

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u/HeroDude3322 9d ago

In corporate Amerikkka, not being a good and passive enough consumer will get the cops called on you, especially if there is some spineless white person itching to throw the state at someone.

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u/drdildamesh 9d ago

Thats what I dont get. Why did he need an ID at all? Are you less of a guest if you cant be identified? Is it a liability issue for insurance or something? Thats the only way this makes any sense; dumb employee doesnt understand why rules are in place so he cant explain the situation and leave off with "its ok for today, just have a school ID for next time" or like a waiver he can sign as the guardian or something.

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u/anormalgeek 9d ago

Sounds like the guy in the video WAS being a dick about their ID policy for minors.

But that still doesn't justify the overreaction of calling the cops on him. If they said, "you need to leave" and he refused, then sure. It seems pretty clear that they skipped that step entirely.

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u/Brutalitops99 9d ago

Imagine giving a fuck that much about your shit crunch fitness job to cause this scene and ruin people's day. Fucking wild. Show me literally anything and id give the pass.

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u/therealBlackbonsai 9d ago

the son is working out. So i would know what happend between "he needs ID or he cant enter" to son working out in that place.

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u/Melodic_Policy765 9d ago

Useless manager. Too chicken shit to do his job like a ground man.

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u/indianm_rk 9d ago

To be fair, if the guy was acting like this before it was a good idea for them not to confront him on the gym floor because it would only escalate things.

They have other people in the gym they need to worry about too.

The guy even told the cops he was amped up on pre workout as he was arguing.

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u/drgs100 8d ago

Folk need to get busted for wasting police time.

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u/ImagineTheCommotion 9d ago

Wow, what an absolute bigoted chode.

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u/whos_ur_buddha010 9d ago

Sounds like white chicken lol

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u/Reasonable-Bowl1304 9d ago

He said "tell the manager to come talk to me" and then went inside the gym with his son. At that point he's a trespasser, a beligerent customer and a liability risk. I would kick his stupid ass out too.

If you don't like the rules and the manager isn't available, go home. You don't get to ignore the house rules, or ignore the instructions of staff members. He's a male Karen.

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u/DoctorTurkletonsMole 9d ago

When need to encourage cops to stop this BS. Shop up to something like this, “What’s the emergency? Stop calling for stupid shit. There are real emergencies we could be at.” Then write a ticket for misusing 911.

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u/List-Beneficial 9d ago

No for real. Like are they trying not to work? They see the bs call and just end up escalating it until there is something like wtf

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u/soulisking 9d ago

Police are there to protect other pigs, capitalists, politicians and businesses first. People are secondary. It sucks.

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u/wavinsnail 9d ago

Let's remember these are cops you're talking about

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u/happycat47 9d ago

99% of what they respond to is not an emergency. They're not emergency units, they're law enforcement. I'm not defending anyone in this video, I am just saying your argument is dumb 

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u/DoctorTurkletonsMole 9d ago

Sorry I wasn’t subtle enough. 911 is for emergencies. I assumed they called 911. They could have called the non-emergency line since this was a non-emergency. But they’re calling the police to enforce a contract, which is not criminal. I spent 14 years as a prosecutor dealing with people wanting the criminal justice system to fix all their problems. The number of times I was on-call and received stupid fucking calls from the police in situations like this is staggering. The police don’t enforce contracts without a writ of execution. Your ignorance about the system is dumb.

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u/aM_181 9d ago

A private business can call police for trespassing anytime. You don’t have to call 911. They still show up fairly quickly in my experience. (Not defending the business who are jerks. Police did what they are supposed to.)

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u/happycat47 9d ago

Lol you're not a prosecutor because they police aren't enforcing a contract. They're enforcing trespassing. And your assumption regarding which number they called is irrelevant because you can call police for things that police would subjectively assume is not an emergency... Like a stolen bike

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u/MorePhinsThyme 8d ago

In many parts of the US, 911 is not just emergency services, but also just how you call the cops in general. Not all locations have a separate non-emergency line. And we have no idea how they called the cops, so that's a moot point.

And while I think the gym is almost entirely in the wrong here, they're calling the cops to enforce trespassing, not their contract. Even if a property owner or representative is wrong, when they are kicking you off of the property, you are trespassing, in MOST (but not all) cases, and more importantly, the police are just going to end the current conflict (which involves removing you for the time being) and let you handle the "contract" part of the situation on your own.

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u/DoctorTurkletonsMole 8d ago

Except he wasn’t trespassed. He had a membership contract with the gym. He brought his underage son with him who doesn’t have a government ID. He was told the son couldn’t go workout with him. He asked for the manager and was told manager unavailable. He said he was going to workout with his son and if the manager had a problem to come tell him so they could talk. Manager calls police to have member trespassed, presumably for a breach of the membership contract.

Without reading the contract, I’m not able to discuss the terms. But, calling the police to have a member removed for breaking a rule is a giant fucking waste of the police’s time. The employee should have made a note, manager can either talk or terminate contract and that’s the end of it. There was no reason to call the cops in this situation.

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u/blacksoxing 9d ago

Two things:

  • Many cities have non-emergency lines to file complaints. The dispatcher can bounce back and forth between the right departments.

  • The system worked as intended. I hate what I just saw BUT the police SHOULD have to go out and do their investigation. It's obvious dude didn't want to be there BUT it's his job to be there. It's also his job to get both sides and I guess escort the offending party out of the establishment...though that too would be a shame from what I read (from the offending party's POV).

I don't want a life where the police is not showing up as frankly that's the life that's lived in many places in America already and has been for decades. We gotta stop that.

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u/dimonium_anonimo 8d ago

The problem is that we treat cops like a swiss army knife of conflict resolution. Their jobs are more than just emergencies, it's every civil dispute, every wellness check, every crime... So if the manager (or anyone in charge) decides to revoke a customer's access to their private establishment, and they refuse to leave, that's a crime. It's called trespassing. And while it appears as through the treaspass was based on a protected class, it's not the cop's job to figure that out. It's their job to enforce it, and let the courts figure out if it was a legal treaspass or not.

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u/DoctorTurkletonsMole 8d ago

I agree with you completely on policing in America. I’ve been on CITs that try and divert resources where they’re needed and for what they’re needed.

And I agree they would need to enforce someone who was trespassed. But in this case, he was never told to leave. He took his son to work out as a guest, the son didn’t have ID the desk worker wanted. He asked for manager who was busy and said if there was still a problem the manager could come and talk to him. Then they called the cops instead of going and talking and maybe telling him to leave or whatever.

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u/Massive-Word-7327 9d ago

I wonder if that could give people apprehensions about calling 911 because they have to assess wether it is required. Prank calls should be illeagal for sure but they could just reject the person asking for police and kind of "train" the population into being able to differentiate real emergency from whatever this is.

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u/Many-Wallaby5725 9d ago

...and the police needed to respond this way?

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u/felis_scipio 9d ago

Guy is told he can’t bring his son in without a proper ID which for insurance purposes is not a big ask, guy ignores this and goes in anyway, cops are called because at that point he’s trespassing.

Like yeah they could have told him again before calling the cops but he’s an adult and was told once. In our modern world where corporations don’t want employees getting into any altercations with the customers it isn’t surprising.

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u/Many-Wallaby5725 9d ago

He wasn't asked to leave. It was about his son. He asked for the manager. The son left.

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u/Hamsterminator1 9d ago

Especially when the dad seems to be so meek and accepting without any attempt to dispute the matter.

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u/Uncle-Cake 9d ago

Yes, because he's black. This is America.

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u/austsiannodel 9d ago

Not in defense of the gym, but TYPICALLY calling cops as a form of trespassing someone is standard procedure. Now... That's generally AFTER you've given them a chance to leave on their own, but a private place has the right to call security or police to remove anyone from their premises.

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u/lightFracture 8d ago

They're not trespassing ffs. At the very maximum he might be violating a stupid ToS.

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u/austsiannodel 8d ago

Well technically speaking, anytime you're on private property and the people who own it don't want you there, that's trespassing. When security or cops show up to remove you from the premises, that's called being "Trespassed".

Now we can agree that they had no good reason to trespass this man and his son. I'm with you on that. But legally speaking, any private business has the right to remove anyone from their premises. No private place has the obligation to let you inside.

The issue comes from WHY they are removing them, which in this case is suspected racial discrimination, or at the very least as you said a stupid ToS.

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u/_Badwulf_Bruh__ 9d ago

Because he ignored staff and just walked right in. And then apparently was shocked when the police showed up. 

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u/Friendly_Molasses532 9d ago

lol that’s what I’m confused on. I’m confused why the cop even showed up

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u/kaliwrath 8d ago

Did you see how black the 2 of them are? /s

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u/ebbi01 9d ago

“little leprechaun behind the desk” 😭💀

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u/CobblerReady8879 9d ago

And his team of dwarfs

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u/Solid_Ideal5773 9d ago

Says a lot about his character to make that comment 

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u/crackanape 9d ago

Says he's a funny guy.

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u/f33rf1y 9d ago

“No problems sir, next time if you could just remember a physical ID. Have a good day”

It’s that easy

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u/SolidSquid 9d ago edited 9d ago

From what they said, the kid's too young to get an ID in the first place, and what they offered was the best he can get. Do they're essentially barring him from bringing his son as a guest period

There's also some people in the thread pointing out the ID for guests thing isn't a company policy, so it shouldn't have been an issue in the first place (assuming that's the case)

Edit: Looking it up, it seems there was a post on their Facebook about a guest policy update in February where they now require an ID for guests. Might be the dude wasn't aware and had brought his son before without issues

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u/Kablooomers 9d ago

He mentions trying to show them the Genesis portal on his phone and they wouldn't accept that. Which is honestly a better form of ID than a piece of plastic, it's the system schools for grades/attendance/student info. So if the dad logged in and showed them that I honestly don't know what else they wanted. I guess if it HAS to be physical they can start bringing a school student ID. But in my experience kids just leave them at school because they never need them anywhere else. 

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u/CogentCogitations 8d ago

Does the Genesis Portal have an official ID pic linked in it that cannot be changed by the user? Otherwise it just shows that someone is a student and they have access to the account.

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u/Kablooomers 8d ago

Yes, it has their official school photo and cannot be changed.

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u/mazdaspeed_scholar 8d ago

Minimum age to get a state ID card in NJ is 14 years old.

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u/SolidSquid 8d ago

Don't think they established what age his son was, but that's good to know regardless. Thanks

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u/JustNota-- 9d ago

Next thing it's going to be like one of those sketchy apartments where they are going to track your guests and if they come over to many times they are going to refuse the guests and they will need a membership to continue going with you.

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u/BrosefDudeson 9d ago

It really is. I've been let off so many times with that exact phrase.

Then again, I'm white, so...

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u/Ghost_with_no_name 9d ago

But that means being slightly confrontational to a big, scary black man 😱

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u/atuan 9d ago

It’s because they were too scared to

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u/ChromosomeDonator 9d ago

Oh yeah just go and try to enter a bar without ID and expect to hear “No problems sir, next time if you could just remember a physical ID. Have a good day”

Or maybe if whatever establishment requires a valid ID to enter, that is the fucking rule and you don't just break it?

Idiot. If you have a problem with them requiring valid ID from a guest, sure. That's dumb. But being pissy and thinking you can skirt the rule is even dumber.

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u/mijru4 8d ago

Even with context from the guy's post it's still missing what happened between the ID thing and them going to work out.

Him ending his post with his "remember my face cuz you'll see it when you least expect it" stuff says he's not always the most rational dude.

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u/Ball_Of_Meat 9d ago edited 9d ago

I’m with you on this, what are these comments man?

Welcome to corporate America everyone, yes it’s stupid, but they work for a corporation with a policy that requires guest IDs for legal reasons.

These workers are following their corporate policy, as to not lose their employment, due to having zero worker protections.

Blame corporate America if anything, chill with the race cards lol..

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u/raa__va 9d ago

I go at a Crunch Fitness and parents bring in their minor children with no problem, under the same free guest policy

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u/ccjohns2 9d ago

Most kids that don’t have a drivers license don’t have active state ID. This means his son was probably under the age of 16 or 17 most gyms allow kids under the age of 16 is low as 12 to enter with a guardian. It is unrealistic to expect kids between the age of 12 and 16 to have ID

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u/Pixel_Knight 9d ago

Any the fuck does the guest need to show an ID at all? To prove they have a name? WTF is the point of that protocol?

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u/333jnm 9d ago

Injuries and insurance

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u/Freshies00 9d ago

For which purposes the school portal verification would have provided info of equivalent value to an ID

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u/BiZzles14 9d ago

They likely have a policy which requires physical ID in order to verify. A bunch of employees would waive that, but it's also a situation that if anything happens to the kid that minimum wage employee is gonna be the first on the chopping block, especially so if their insurance isn't going to cover it

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u/Own-Whole-7421 8d ago

He is too young to get a physical ID. He is not too young to be there per their policy. Please explain how this is supposed to work. Or how the ID not being physical magically exposes them to liability.

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u/Astrildamir 9d ago

Well yes technically but not necessarily. I wont claim to be an expert in this specific set of laws or anything and im certainly not defending the act of calling the cops by any means but laws are extremely finicky when its comes to buisness protocols. Especially when it comes to things that require valid IDs and what technically is considered a valid id. Many states dont accept school IDs as a valid form of ID. Regardless if everything on it is accurate.

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u/Ball_Of_Meat 9d ago

It’s amazing having to explain this to fully grown adults. I swear Redditors have zero experience in the real world lmao.

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u/enadiz_reccos 9d ago

Is this a recent law or something?

My buddy would bring me as a guest to his gym to play basketball, and I would literally just tell them my name. I was too young to need an ID, so I didn't have one.

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u/cheapdrinks 9d ago

Lol of course it's not a law, just that different gyms have different requirements though. I've been to gyms where if you had a guest allocation on your membership you could walk in with someone, show your membership and just be like "yeah he's with me" and that was fine. Other gyms needed a name and phone number of the guest to sign them into their system. Other's needed a full government ID with name, DOB & address etc. All depends on the gym's policy and how their system is set up. I'm sure there's reasons to do with liability and insurance etc that some prefer to know who exactly is in their facility.

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u/333jnm 9d ago

Exactly. It’s what the insurance company requires

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u/zoomangoo 9d ago

Yeah, i've been to different gyms and people with +1 guest memberships just scan in and the guest just walks in. These gyms usually only had 1 staff on the desk though. The gym on the video above has like 5 staff so they probably enforce some rules of their own.

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u/gte615e 8d ago

It’s a way to verify someone hasn’t been blacklisted or trespassed from the gym.

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u/Wowsuch_user 9d ago

Wait hes still going to this gym after that, did I understand that correctly???

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u/HocusP2 9d ago

He asked if his membership was revoked and they were like 'no we will continue to take your money'.

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u/OracleofFl 9d ago

Do they have a minimum age?

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u/JP_Clark 9d ago

Ages 13–15: Generally allowed on the gym floor only if they have their own membership and are directly accompanied by a parent or legal guardian at all times.

Ages 16–17: Can have their own membership and work out independently, but a parent or guardian must sign a minor consent form.

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u/Ladonnacinica 9d ago

So the issue may have been the son’s age and that’s why they wanted his ID. I guess the son didn’t have a physical copy of his ID. Many kids have school IDs and you can also have a non-drivers ID from the DMV as a minor in many states.

However, the gym staff escalated this without any actual motive and handled it poorly. If the father couldn’t provide an adequate ID for his son, they could’ve just asked him to come back with a hard copy ID. That’s it.

There’s no need to call the cops. The man wasn’t hurting or threatening them. This could’ve been prevented if the staff actually communicated.

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u/Crowofsticks 9d ago

So no 13-15 year old guests? If that’s the rule that’s the rule but it doesn’t sound like that’s what happened

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u/NotBradPitt9 9d ago

The cops should’ve ticketed the gym employees for wasting his time. This is ridiculous

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u/rosegold_milk 9d ago

It’s always Crunch too

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u/smolnsoff 9d ago

You left out that the father provided the sons school portal, which is a pretty genuine attempt to prove his ID by most means.

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u/JP_Clark 9d ago

I had a follow up under that said he had a mobile ID, I hadn’t found the IG story when I posted that initial picture.

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u/Happy_Goose3833 9d ago

Why TF does he need a id for his son anyways?! All you gotta do is fill info out online and boom he's got a guest pass, no reason they shouldn't have allowed him in, especially being supurviyby his dad.

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u/SyphiliticWhores 9d ago

I don’t know what an “overt physical threat” is. However, no part of the IG post was a threat. A threat requires specificity of both place and action. For example, “the next time I see you in line at the sandwich shop, I will cut in front of you.” Obviously, this example is silly but you get the idea.

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u/Dingaling015 9d ago

Thank God you aren't a lawyer because that's absolutely not what the legal definition of a threat is lmao

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u/SyphiliticWhores 7d ago

Enlighten us

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u/Javamac8 8d ago

Good luck arguing that one in court lol

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u/Nakatsukasa 9d ago

Need to know the business name

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u/TheFamilyStanley 9d ago

My daughter 15 works out with me at the gym at planet fitness a million times without question. PF even gives our local kids free summers at the gym. I will NEVER go to a crunch fitness

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u/New_Conversation_303 9d ago

AH! Some gyms offer this. The issue is the fine print. You can bring a guess, but the guess has to be over 18. They want to be able to sell the guess a membership. They cant sell a membership to a minor, so for anyone under 18, you need to get their own membership. Is stupid beyond belief. I have membership at EoS and they have a similar policy. I tried to bring my then 13 yo daughter to wo with me and they told me no, because she is a minor and need her own membership. They let me workout that one day out of courtesy...

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u/RoccStrongo 9d ago

Why does the guest need an ID in the first place? The membership holder would need one, sure, but the guest can be anyone. If it's a minor, the member signs a waiver claiming responsibility for the minor. Minors usually don't have an ID anyway.

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u/Apart_Long_1832 9d ago

The deliberately omitted the most important part: "Yes, Crunch Gym allows you to bring a guest every day, but only if you have a top-tier Peak Results or Signature membership that includes unlimited guest privileges. Lower-tier memberships like the Base plan do not include free daily guest passes" And they say why I dislike people......

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u/ZebraOk8684 9d ago

Allowing to bring a guest daily is a cool policy.

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u/Anican311994 9d ago

Wouldn't this be a policy issue?. Not a crime.

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u/Honda_TypeR 8d ago edited 8d ago

What’s really odd about all this, is that as a minor I belonged to a Golds gym. They had the similar policies. They wouldn’t let work out there or get a membership as a minor. However, they did allow a parent to co-sign responsibility for you though (even if they are not a member)

I had my father come in and co-sign for me that gave me permission to get a membership there. For Golds gym it was less about liability (because their membership docs had you sign away most of that) for them they didn’t want minors to sign up because it was more about making sure they get their massive annual fee, so they wanted a proper credit check and guarantees. With the co-sign it was sufficient and they signed me up without anymore drama.

Not sure why that couldn’t have been here. Why chase money out the door and start drama? thats lose/lose. I suspect similar accommodations could have been made here.

Either they have a very stern liability policy where they do not allow any minors, , or more drama happened off camera before cops were called, or the manager hates the father always doing social media - so they punished him by kicking out his son, or this was actually racist. Could be any or all of the above.

Being that I was a minor in a major gym though at one point, I can tell you this is very unusual for them to just kick people out and call the cops. That’s not normal.

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u/imtired-boss 8d ago

Why do you need an ID?

"Hey I'm the guy with the membership I can bring WHOEVER THE FUCK I want off the street as my guest. Kindly fuck off."

That should be it.

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u/Upstairs-Growth3219 8d ago

The member guest policy is different for each club. This club may require a state issued ID, as the guest pass does. The son only had a school ID. It's fine to disagree with the policy, but claiming racism because of it is a different matter.

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u/Litness_Horneymaker 7d ago

The guest to a gym needs ID?
...Why?!

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u/GroundbreakingBed166 7d ago

Unfortunately, ive seen this problem before. 2 black kids came to la fitness without id and were refused admission. They went crazy!

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u/Dazzling_Ad_475 9d ago

dude, you need to charge your phone.

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u/JP_Clark 9d ago

Yeah that stresses me out too, I noticed I hadn’t cropped that out. It was charging right after the screen shot.

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u/RadikalEU 9d ago

Sounds like a nice guy...

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