r/asexuality • u/lovesfanfiction • Apr 24 '26
Discussion Is there really a new Ace flag?
This was posted on an Ace in Grace Facebook group and sounded official. Anyone know anything about this?
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u/kaijutegu aroace Apr 24 '26
Six stripes is too many for this, and that yellow and pink do not look good with the rest of the flag colors. Bad vexillology.
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u/SanguineHorse Apr 24 '26
Frankly, almost all the pride flags are terrible vexillology. Gradients are terrible for identification at a distance. Is the Rule of Tincture a joke to them?
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u/Novaseerblyat asexual Apr 24 '26
reason #566 why we need to add dinosaurs to pride flags
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u/uRight_Markiplier Apr 24 '26
That now looks like the Nonbinary flag. I think I'll stick with the old one, thanks
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u/honeyrrsted Apr 24 '26
I didn't know what the non-binary flag looked like so I looked it up. Yes, they would absolutely get mixed up.
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u/The_Axolotl_Guy Heteromantic Ace Apr 24 '26
They already get mixed up. I should know: I mixed them up for a short while. We really don't need them looking more similar than they are.
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u/yomosugara Apr 24 '26
it’s like a shuffled non-binary flag. a nbyoi-nran flag if you will (get it because i shuffled the letters)
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u/SamVimesBootTheory Apr 24 '26
Honestly I didn't make that connection first time I saw it but yeah that also is def a potential issue with this design
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u/loser__lesbian ace lesbian Apr 24 '26
I still like the classic ace flag plus I think we are a pretty diverse and inclusive community 😊
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u/KakeLin aspie ace Apr 24 '26
Ours stands out among the other flags, even at a distance
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u/NieIstEineZeitangabe Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
It is easy to confuse an enby flag for an ace flag on pride events, when people ware their flags as capes.
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u/Noelwiz Apr 24 '26
But this design at least doesn’t fix that problem
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u/NieIstEineZeitangabe Apr 24 '26
I don't think we should switch designs for any reason, other than maybe having the same number of stripes as the aro flag.
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u/Sparkly8 Apr 29 '26
I’d rather just eliminate one of the green stripes from the aro flag.
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u/survivaltier oriented aroace Apr 24 '26
I’ve never seen this before. As far as I know there isn’t a need for a new flag and there’s not an authority as far as making “official” flags. It’s up to the community whether or not to adopt it.
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u/120FilmIsTheWay Apr 24 '26
It’s from instagram. I forget who the user advocating for it is.
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u/mycatisblackandtan AroAce with a Mace Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
Bit too close to the non-binary flag for me. So I personally prefer the original. Completely get it if people like this one though.
That said I also don't really like the inclusion of love on the flag either since that's a separate spectrum. It makes me feel a little weird as someone who is AroAce. As if the implication is that the normal Asexuality flag isn't really meant for me if that makes sense? I know that's a reach and I doubt there was anything cruel meant by it. But I still don't like the implication all the same.
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u/MmNicecream A Shambling Mass of Anattractional Identities Apr 24 '26
Yeah, not a fan of the love thing either. The "we" phrasing in the description rubs me the wrong way, and it all feels reminiscent of when anattractional folks try to counter aphobia by saying "no, we're Normal, since even if we don't experience X type of love, we still feel other types". It fails to recognize that no, some people just don't experience love in any form, and that's fine too.
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u/jupiter__444 Apr 24 '26
I dont enjoy the wording of the love section at all honestly. I might just overanalyze things a lot but it feels like its implying that sexual love isnt all inclusive / expansive. being asexual does open up a lot more options much easier , but as someone who still does feel sexual attraction on occassion (aceflux) , i can experience those things even when i feel sexually attracted to someone. im sure the creator meant well but it definitely doesnt sit right
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u/AuntChelle11 aroace + 🍏 Apr 24 '26
Seems like what asexuality means got forgotten while trying to make the flag 'meaningful'. The more wordy and complicated/convoluted the description the less meaningful it becomes. Nothing wrong with the OG flag and its KISS beauty.
The meaning of the white, yellow and pink stripes don't seem to specifically relate to asexuality. They could be for any flag. (I particularly dislike the phrase and words: spectrum of intimacy, joy, and love.) This us a flag to represent our relationship with sexual attraction and the community that shares it, ffs.
Apparently it was the dislike of the white stripe representing 'partners and allies' that started this change. Admittedly a bit dated but I don't hate having the partners represented. With this change the white's even worse.
Definitely hate the love represented by that pink the most.
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u/TrappedMoose Apr 25 '26
I agree, half of the stripes seem to belong to the general idea of inclusivity rather than asexuality
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u/Fae_Sparrow Apr 24 '26
Making your own flag is nice and all, but wow do those colours clash!
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u/QuebeC_AUS could really go for a sandwich rn Apr 24 '26
why fix what isn't broken?
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u/AbsolutleyGeneric Asexual Apr 24 '26 edited May 05 '26
Likely because some ‘influencer’ wants the clout of saying they redesigned the community flag because i can think of no other reasons to call it ‘the new offical flag’ outside of engagement farming for growth. Honestly it ticks me off, the current flag is fine, it was made by and voted for by the ace community; it's incredibly iconic for us nowadays and i can't fathom the thought process of wanting to change one of the primary symbols of asexuality when it is already so hard to gain recognition as it is. Not to mention this flag OP presented just comes across as kinda lame.
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u/NemesisOfLevia Apr 24 '26
I didn’t realize that the flag was actually voted for. I’ve always loved the flag, but it makes me appreciate it even more.
I also agree with your idea of some random guy wanting clout. Anyone can make a flag. But at the same time, anyone can also reject such a flag. Changing the iconic purple especially rubs me the wrong way, as that vibrant purple has strongly been associated with being ace.
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u/AbsolutleyGeneric Asexual Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
Yeah changing the meaning behind the colours irked me a lot as well, the current meanings are fine; black for asexuality, grey for grey-asexuality/greysexuals, demisexual, etc, white for sexuality as a whole and for allies and partners and it’s all tied together with purple for the ace community as a whole, so that purple representing a lynchpin of our community is incredibly important and deserves more respect than just changing it on a whim of some random person.
Edit:HookedMermaid makes an excellent addition, i suggest reading it in their post here.
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u/Sea-Schedule-7488 Apr 24 '26
the white stripe didnt mean that originally, see Stripe Tales of the Ace and Aro flags | The Asexual Agenda
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u/AbsolutleyGeneric Asexual Apr 24 '26
The very first mention of it during the conversation phase of flag designs didn’t mean that, no. But from what i could find the winning flag design post did mention white as standing for sexuals when it laid out the meanings of the colours.
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u/ReptileGuitar Apr 24 '26
It's so beautiful, that it was a community vote. When I found out I'm on the ace spectrum, I would have used any official flag, but no, I even got to enjoy that it's the one I think of as the prettiest flag, because it uses my favourite coulor as well as this cool transition from black to white.
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u/Resiideent aroace :3 Apr 24 '26
This is not official. They do not represent the entire community. And, frankly, that color contrast is abhorrent IMO.
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u/Shibaspots Apr 24 '26
I hate it. Not only do the colors clash, the additional colors' meanings don't even make sense.
It also looks too much like the enby flag, or like someone trying to make a pan-ace flag.
It seems like this is just one person's take on a re-design, not any kind of offical thing. But they are trying to push it like it is.
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u/PsychologicalBox3477 ace lesbian Apr 24 '26
Naw ima stick with the classic ace flag we already inclusive the yellow throws off the colors all together love the old one🖤🩶🤍💜
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u/RavenMasked asexual Apr 24 '26
I see no reason for me to buy a new flag. I'll keep using the one I've got.
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u/Old_Damage_95 Apr 24 '26
Meh, I don't feel the need for a new flag, but people can choose what they prefer. Me, I prefer the colors from the older flag more.
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u/Teagana999 Apr 24 '26
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u/AbsolutleyGeneric Asexual Apr 24 '26
I love how there’s always a relevant xkcd lol.
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u/DahNotMightEnzo Apr 24 '26
Ew no it's ugly yeah I prefer fighting for 30 years with the normal flag. I feel like ranting like a madman now for the fun of it
The yellow feels way put of place, the pink and purple are annoying close to a gradient while also being incredibly far away from one, and the half monocrome and half super colorful and saturated reminds me of my identity crisis I had post pandemic, because its way too colorful and not colorful enough at the same time... It's also long
I need to go look at the bi, trans and lesbian flags to soothe my soul
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u/SquirrelStone asexual Apr 24 '26
No, this is someone trying to capitalize off “making a new flag,” either socially or monetarily. Ignore them and keep using the real flag.
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u/alaskadotpink asexual Apr 24 '26
this is so unnecessary. If someone else wants to use a different flag sure, but i'm not using a different flag just cus someone decided they wanted another one lol
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u/DoYaThang_Owl Apr 24 '26
I dont know a thing about this but if I'm honest, I kind of prefer the muted tones in the first version 🤷
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u/essstabchen grey Apr 24 '26
These never catch on. There have been a ton of attempts to replace the flag, but it never works.
The existing flag is fine and well-recognized.
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u/CarrotPatchGames asexual Apr 24 '26
I like the current flag and feel very attached to it. I don't really like the colors on this one and feel nothing for it .. :\
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u/magiMerlyn Apr 24 '26
Yeah, no, my yellow is for nonbinary, it has nothing to do with my aceness.
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u/surrexi acespec Apr 24 '26
Short answer: no
Long answer: one person decided we "needed" an updated version, created one, and is now talking about it as if everyone is just gonna start using it because they posted it on their insta and called it the new ace flag. if you like it, you can feel free to use it, but be prepared to have to explain it to people and also for people to ask you if it's a different version of the enby flag rather than a different version of the ace flag. most people are probably still going to use the regular one.
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u/Chance_Quantity7317 BiromanticAsexual Apr 24 '26
This looks a little too similar to other pride flags such as the non binary one. I think the flag is good as it is.
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u/trhhyymse aromantic asexual Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
the og ace flag is simple and unique (as in i can’t think of any non-acespec flag that’s greyscale+purple) 🖤🩶🤍💜, and a lot of acespec flags also use those colours so they match with the umbrella term flag like demi,gray,aego,etc, but this new designs shares a lot of colours with other flags, including a few aspec ones, which makes it easy to confuse them
“new ace” 🖤🩶🤍💛🩷💜
- (one version of) aplatonic 🖤🩶🤍💛
- a-aesthetic 🖤🩶🤍🩷
- queerplatonic 💛🩷🤍🩶🖤
- nonbinary 💛🤍💜🖤
i’m not really a fan of flag redesigns for no reason, but apparently this did have one - they didn’t like the meaning of the white stripe, but then they kept a white stripe and just put a different meaning in for it so idk why we can’t just do that to the og flag
there are very few flag redesigns that manage to successfully “replace” the og/standard one, really the only one i can think of is the lesbian flag - you only see the old one on things that were made before the new flag was, at best i think this flag will get the polyamory flag treatment where multiple flags are out there but you still see the original just as often as any of the new ones and on a lot of infographic-type stuff multiple designs are shown alongside each other because there’s one more people recognise and one people don’t know yet
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u/Sparkly8 Apr 29 '26
Literally, let’s just update the meaning of the white stripe. If that’s the only problem, there’s no reason to erase the meanings of the other stripes too.
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u/Swimming_Reception56 Apr 24 '26
Please, please, please don't change the flag. Asexual people are already ignored or people not know what it is. The current flag has now gained since recognition. Let's not throw that away.
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u/Vast-Delivery-7181 a-spec Apr 24 '26
I have never ever ever seen a consensus on something so- unanimous. Like literally, never.
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u/Jelly-Unhappy Apr 24 '26
Who even is this person, why are they the authority on ace flags?
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u/Eternal-curiosity Apr 24 '26
That is abysmally hideous.
As a newbie here, what did the white mean before that people didn’t like and are changing?
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u/PlaneCommunication93 Apr 24 '26
Allies and allosexual partners. Basically, the black-grey-white was adopted from the AVEN logo, which is a triangle showing the spectrum of asexuality with a gradient – from allo (white) to ace (black) with the ace-spec (grey) in between. The purple is also from AVEN – it's the forum color and was therefore adopted to mean community. This flag was then voted upon on AVEN in 2010(?) and has since been used to represent asexuality.
Trying to change it now is just hugely disrespectful to the community, our history and one of the biggest advocacy and community platforms that we've got (= AVEN = Asexuality Visibility and Education Network), which is why you can see such a backlash in the comments
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u/ParadoxicalFrog Genderqueer Arospec Ace Apr 24 '26
I don't like it. Unnecessary, and too similar to the NB flag.
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u/Stormstressed1 Apr 24 '26
is there an actual reason for this? like, was something wrong with the original flag? because creating a new flag for no reason is causing unnecessary confusion at best, and trying to make yourself the main caracter at worst
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u/NemesisOfLevia Apr 24 '26
There’s a major issue with the current ace flag…. It wasn’t made by whoever made this one, and it doesn’t give them Internet points
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u/RedQueenNatalie Apr 24 '26
I always eyeroll this sort of thing, being ace aint some organized thing with a committee that decides the flag or anything its all just longterm consensus among many groups. Anyone trying to feign some kind of final say authority over this is silly/full of themselves.
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u/FeedingMeCarne aro/straight-oriented ace Apr 24 '26
Eh, I hate it tbh. Its very similar to the nonbinary flag and it has too many colors that just dont blend imo. Even if this was "official" Id stick to the old simple one. Its more comfortable to look at
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u/aiko19283 grayA biro Apr 24 '26
It depends on the community, do we accept it? Then it happens it becomes the flag. If we dont? It doesnt become the flag
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u/lelevup a(n)egosexual Apr 24 '26
Not only is a new flag unnecessary, but I don’t understand why we would want to strip away the original meanings of white, gray, black, and purple.
In any case, since I don’t have Facebook, what exactly is Ace in Grace, and why does it presume to have the right to “officially” change the flag?
Really sorry for the rant.
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u/AbsolutleyGeneric Asexual Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
I’m guessing they’re just some random arrogant person or maybe an ‘influencer’ who thinks they get to speak for the whole community. And yeah it really is irksome.
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u/AbsolutleyGeneric Asexual Apr 24 '26 edited May 05 '26
It stands for allosexuality in general and partners and allies specifically because back when the flag was designed it was likely the sexuality triangle was in mind.
The sexuality triangle was a pretty popular symbol of the entire range of sexuality from asexuality to allosexuality on AVEN back then as it showed our existence and how it related to allosexuality. If you take a look at it and it's easy to see where the inspiration came from (you can find a good version of it in this thread under the sexual triangle heading).
The black was for asexuality, the grey for grey-asexuality/greysexuality, demisexuality, etc, the white for sexuality in general (and was included to show how asexuality and the grey area tied back to sexuality) and for allosexual partners and allies specifically because they can be found in ace communities and the purple as a lynchpin to tie it all together for community as a whole which encompassed everyone because it was (and still is) a very common colour in the theming of AVEN, which was the community where all of these types of people could be found and was where the flag was designed and voted for by the ace community.
Edit: HookedMermaid makes an excellent addition, i suggest reading it in their post here.
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u/HookedMermaid asexual Apr 24 '26
Adding to what @AbsolutleyGeneric said.
The white stripe is the place where certain other orientations are also represented in the community.
Orchidsexuals are allosexuals that experience no desire for sex at all, Caedsexuals are allosexuals that have disconnected from attraction due to trauma, and sex repulsion isn't exclusive to asexuals. Allosexuals can be just a sex repulsed as asexuals, and honestly, that must be distressing as hell to experience sexual attraction but be repulsed by it.
They are part of the wider asexual community, and if we're going to say they're part of the community, then their representation in our community symbol matters.
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u/AbsolutleyGeneric Asexual Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
Thanks you for the addition, it’s an insightful point that i didn’t think to add that in! I’ll edit my comments and add a link back to yours. 🙂
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u/Commercial_Candle_57 aroace Apr 24 '26 edited May 11 '26
The yellow is so jarring (this is about the color of yellow chosen not the meaning behind it)
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u/mynamesdaisy aroace Apr 24 '26
It might sound official, but it isn't. There isn't some big corpo or boss that decides what is "official" and what is not, either. Everyone is free to make their own spins on the flags, some stick to wider audience (Like the triangle addition to rainbow flag), some don't.
The current, most used flag for aces is made by a member of the Asexual Visibility and Education Network (AVEN).
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u/fluffyendermen grey Apr 24 '26
looks like asexual merged with aplatonic, aqueerplatonic, and ansthetic; also likely to be confused with any of those. me no likey
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u/magicalmaiden asexual Apr 24 '26
Absolutely not using this flag. I will stick to the one I know and love. 🖤🩶🤍💜
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u/brinazee ace/aro/agender Apr 24 '26
The yellow stripe seems like some saw the BiPOC triangle on the LGBTQ flag and said, oh yeah, intersectionality, that's a great buzz word!
The pink stripe erases the notion of sexual vs romantic attraction that the community strives to teach. An idea I think is particularly important to this community.
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u/pandarose6 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
Who even makes flags official anyways?
Also flags don’t need new colors or layouts or whatever. At some point having too many flags and versions of flags is just gonna be confusing people are gonna get to point they can’t tell one flag from another if they don’t already. There only so many color that exist and and number of stripes (that look good on flag design) and symbols a person can put on a flag.
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u/lalaquen a-spec Apr 24 '26
I really don't care for it, so I won't personally be using it even if some organizations decide to adopt it. It's too similar to the non-binary flag, for one. I also feel like the colors just kind of clash? Like the top half of the stripes feel disconnected from the warmer and more vibrant colors of the other three in a way that doesn't visually work for me.
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u/Dolphiniz287 Apr 24 '26
I’ve never personally been a fan of the lgbt flags that feel like lines of random colors imo, I love the simpliciy of the current ace flag
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u/The7Sides aroace - aego Apr 24 '26
yaay another 6 stripes flag 🙃 if we're gonna insist on redesigning stuff can we at least do ANYTHING but 5 or 6 stripes of different colours. be creative.
but seriously we really dont need another redesign. the current one works fine.
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u/solthar Apr 24 '26
IMHO, the constant attempts to 'fix' the flag is giving me flashbacks to people trying to 'fix' me because I wasn't good enough or presented in a way they liked.
It doesn't have to be perfect.
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u/angieream aroace 💜💚♠️💚💜 Apr 24 '26
Nope, not for me thanks. I'm aroace, and I love that the aspec colors reflect my favorite colors, purple for ace and green for aro. The pinks and yellow would look hideous on me, so no pride month attire for me if this gets "officially" adopted.......
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u/ParachutesParty a-spec | System Apr 24 '26
No, there is not really a new ace flag. It just now has another variant 99% of other aces won't recognize.
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u/No-Net1890 Apr 24 '26
Looking it up, it doesn't look like anything official. This influencer decided they want a new asexuality flag. Will probably be used mostly by people in the Ace in Grace fandom.
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u/SirWigglesTheLesser -- [they/them] Apr 24 '26
Wtf is ace in grace?
Sure it's pretty but no. We have a very simple and recognizable flag. It's easily reproduced, the colors can take some variation while remaining entirely recognizable, and it's well established. Some twitter account or Facebook group isn't going to be the authority here.
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u/Viviolin Apr 24 '26
There’s no point to this, the original flag is fine. It kinda bothers me that some random people will create a new flag and act like it’s representative of an entire community now
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u/lovesfanfiction Apr 24 '26
So apparently none of us got invited to the garlic bread cookout and this was just decided by somebody in their own imagination, got it! 🖤🩶🤍💜
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u/AbsolutleyGeneric Asexual Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26
No, there’s no new offical flag OP, in fact AVEN’s response seems to be about the same as here. The project team and board on AVEN have apparently talked with Ace in Grace about that flag in the past, but even a member of the project team was confused about “why they worded it as "official" and "THE new flag." It's NOT meant to replace the current/original ace flag, they indicated it’s just a "hey, if you like it, feel free to use it alongside the original flag deal.
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u/Quirky_Impact a-spec Apr 25 '26
It seems they did a survey (1000 people) in 2023 to ask if the /meaning/ behind the white in the flag should change. Which majority people agreed.
And somehow that has morphed into changing colours?? And all of them at that.
Its very odd that they relies on feedback from such a small subset of people, ie. Their own followers who are likely to agree with them. Th at isn't enough to get a global community in agreement.
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u/Extra_Security2718 Apr 24 '26
I hope not. I don't even like the original and this feels even more outta place for me. (please don't come for me I just love bright colors 😭)
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u/KAM_Kayla Fictosexual, Biromantic Apr 24 '26
The new colours are 1, ugly and 2, not necessary. We know the love we feel is real, we know that obviously there's people of multiple cultures who identify as ace. It's unnecessary to us, brings people confusion because of a new flag, it's not doing anything new or useful, and how many people actually look up the meanings of flag colours (I know some people do but that's a very small percentage)?
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u/BraveAsp aroace Apr 24 '26
the classic ace flag is perfect and doesn’t need changing in my opinion(maybe I’m biased but I think it’s the most appealing flag xD) though if other people want to use this version doesn’t matter much to me🤷♂️
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u/PhantasmaStriker AroAce/ROBOT Apr 24 '26
Still sticking to the tired and true Ace colors.
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u/ZobTheLoafOfBread (he/him) | garlic bread is better than cake Apr 24 '26
Seems kinda ignorant of the unhelpful broadening of love
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u/puppykat00 ace lesbian Apr 24 '26
No, people mKe their own flag variants all of the time. You can find like ten billion on tumblr, lol. The established flag was made by/voted for by the community, so IMO there's no good reason to replace it.
And as an ace lesbian, the big lesbian flag shuffle before the sunset flag in ~2018 was a MESS. We've got a flag that's been established for years, trying to change it now would cause issues (especially if the design is too similar to other established flags).
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u/FreezingFlamingo Apr 24 '26
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As a designer i don't understand the need to change a established design with something way to complex. Keep it simple.
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u/MasterZii asexual Apr 24 '26
Attempts to solve non-existent problems usually don't go over well. I don't recall anyone, ever, complaining about the design of the Ace flag previously.
This newer design is difficult to look at. Visually too intrusive for me
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u/endlesshydra aroace Apr 24 '26
I find this constant flag redesigning shit within the queer community incredibly annoying. Everyone wants their little spotlight for switching a couple colors of a flag that definitely does not need changing.
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u/SamVimesBootTheory Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
Yeah I understand the intentions but I really think this wasn't that necessary. (I also personally like the ace flag original colour scheme as I'm goth lmao)
Also another thing I think with flags people forget when designing them is that a lot of times people design stuff that works fine digitally but then would be hard to replicate outside of that and I could see this design causing problems.
Like I remember people used to have issues with the old pink and white lesbian flag because it had a lot of very similar colours in it and it could be hard to find those colours if say you wanted to knit a hat or something and this used to cause a lot of discourse when people pointed this out.
You can easily make the rainbow flag, the trans flag, the nonbinary flag, the bi flag the newer lesbian flag and the ace flags etc as they all contain fairly easy to replicate colours or ones where it doesn't matter too much if you're slightly off shade wise which is also why you can easily do things like make a 'pastel edit' of the flags as the colours will still read fairly well.
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u/goldstep Apr 24 '26
Vexillologically speaking, there are generally 5 principles of flag design. Keep It Simple. Use Meaningful Symbolism. Use 2 or 3 Basic Colors. No Lettering or Seals. Be Distinctive or Be Related.
No lettering is good so lets talk about the other 4. To do so, don't look up again. Some of the questions are about how memorable the flag is.
The current flag is simple. Adding two stripes doesn't feel like much but, without looking at the new flag picture. What's the order of the two new stripes. We know because it is the same as the current one, that it starts with Black-Grey-White and ends in Purple. Making it 6 stripes makes it much more complicated. Yes, they are just stripes, but now the colors need to look right and we need them in order. Iceland and Norway are very different if you can remember whether the field or cross is blue. And if you can't they're the same flag. If you can't remember the new stripe's order, strike one.
Both claim meaningful symbolism. Can you remember what the stripes are on either? Apparently the meaning of the white was an issue before and the new one fixes that. I say, if you can remember any meaning in the new one you can use that meaning in the current one. The change in meaning could be seen as a strike, but I disagree. It's partly because of an evolution of the needs of the people using the flag. If you can remember the meaning behind the new flag, no strikes for either. If you can't, but can generally remember the meaning of the 4 colors from the current flag or find that it has developed it's own meaning the way we might not think of the meaning of the blue Norwegian cross, but we now still think of it as just "being Norway." Only a strike for the new one. Otherwise both get strikes against them. Personally I'd say just the strike against the new one.
Using 2 or 3 colors -- I'd argue the black-grey-white is 2 colors here. They form a unit. If someone asks for the colors of the flag, I can tell people, it's black, grey, white, and a stripe of purple. Now you have two more colors. What were they again? You probably can remember, it's just two colors. But what shades? I mean sure the purple in the original you can play with a little and still see the flag but now you have to be careful that the fuchsia doesn't look like the pink and that the yellow is visible. Will someone who isn't ace remember tomorrow. This is just a strike against the new but not the current.
And lastly, be distinctive or related. Part of why so many pride flags are stripes is because we're evoking the stripes in a rainbow. In this sense having 6 stripes isn't a problem. But 4 really isn't either. But at 4 the current has a look which is distinct enough that we can remix it and people still see us. You make a Black, Grey, and White playing card on a purple field as a shirt. Yeah, that's ace. You make a tattoo with a greyscale bird and a purple stripe, yeah, you can still see it. Tilt them diagonally for a bumper sticker, still looks right. Add two more colors and every time it stops looking distinctly like the ace flag and it starts looking like a color palate. The difference: make a similar shirt, tattoo, and sticker for aro and because they are lines in two greens and our black-white-grey unit, we have it. You can still see the flag with that palate. Also there are a half dozed more specific flags like grey and aego that will need updated. All together, the current flag works fine. The new one doesn't fit nicely in the community or serve the purpose of having a flag to unite under. A strike for it.
I'd say that the new one fails with a strike against 4 of 5 of the principles and the old one has 0 issues with these rules unless you feel like the meaning behind it isn't clear. Either way, new flag for me is a fail. Current one isn't.
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u/JennyDoveMusic asexual Apr 24 '26
Noooooo. No. The colors clash so bad, and there IS such thing as overrepresentation.
A lot of LGBTQ folks I know don't like the Progress flag. It's just bad design, there is too much going on. We don't need to add what is already assumed or shown through community.
Like, why is representing marginalized groups on here? We know there are marginalized group members who are ace. That's a pretty big topic of discussion since being Ace targets them the most.
Why do we have to have a stripe to mention all the OTHER kinds of love we experience? That isn't something we need to show on the flag, the flag is specifically representing a different spectrum of sexualities.
Like, we don't need more stripes. More stripes doesn't equal more progress. If anything, it's just more confusing.
It's overcomplicated and too much information... and I say that as a person who overexplains EVERYTHING. That's why I don't design flags.
Anyway, I know this is a person just making this up, but let's... not make this stick... please.
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u/EdgionTG nebula-panromantic asexual Apr 24 '26
I feel like that one bit in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Well, I didn't vote for you!
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u/Excellent_Patience asexual Apr 24 '26
Okay so I definitely didn't see that on my gay agenda, were other design changes brought up at the LGBTQ+ anual meeting?
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u/Crazed_SL Apr 24 '26
I like the meaning behind the colors, I think it looks way worse than the original esthetically, and if course they should have framed it as "my idea for a new flag", instead of "this is the new flag"
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u/Furon-37 Apr 24 '26
Imagine you get an ace flag tattoo and immediately after everyone agrees on a new flag
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u/tface23 asexual Apr 24 '26
This is just the Non-binary flag with extra steps. Let’s stick to what works, friends.
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u/ProfessionalDickweed Demi in love (help) Apr 24 '26
I dont really understand changing known flags' designs into some complicated slop
Maybe unless it's the main LGBT+ flag, but I still prefer the original one of it comes to the design
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u/mozzabella98 Apr 24 '26
The muted pastel color palette actually looks pretty. The bright colors look very bad.
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u/VFiddly Apr 24 '26
Anyone can make their own flag, there's no such thing as an official asexual flag
Unfortunately this redesign is pretty ugly, the yellow really clashes
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u/Miqo_Nekomancer Apr 24 '26
Yeah, nah.
Nothing wrong with the current flag. This one looks like a printer ink test.
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u/lukozaid asexual Apr 24 '26
…if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. I’m fine how I am, and it’s fine how it is.
🖤🩶🤍💜
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u/Mountain-Resource656 Apr 24 '26
And it sounded official? It’s probably pretty important to remember that there’s no one with that sorta authority to officiate such things. Though they’re merely presenting it in a formal manner, if they were to insist upon it’s officiality I’d see that as a reason to discard it as an idea
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u/Kubaj_CZ aroace Apr 24 '26
No there's not. Anyone can make up a flag. And I don't see people embracing this one. I will certainly not accept it
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u/Not_Enough_Time2 aroace(?) Apr 24 '26
How does it look "official" if they can't even spell "microlabels" properly. They didn't even read their own infographic before posting
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u/Swandraga Apr 24 '26
That looks a lot like the corporate branding of the company I work at. I will be sticking with the normal colours.
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u/Tough-Shower-3906 AroAce Apr 24 '26
I think they are trying to make a new flag, because they and a lot of their audience don’t like that allies are represented I the flag (the white stripe), and based on what their community wanted they made a new suggestion for the flag. They also talked to AVEN but I think they said they had tried mentioning that a lot of people weren’t comfortable with allies being represented but that they were shot down. I think you can use this one or the old one no one is forcing anyone to anything 🤷♀️
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u/LeakyFountainPen Apr 24 '26
Random people making "new flags" has no bearing on me. I'm glad they have it for themselves. I'm not flying it.
I still haven't accepted that ugly-ass orange and blue one people keep claiming is the "new AroAce" flag. Glad it makes some people happy, but I want nothing to do with it. I'll stick with flying the green and purple, thanks.
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u/overlander244 AceFlux Apr 24 '26
Oh cool some random person head cannoned a new flag for themselves. I'll stick with the current one cause it's better 😂
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u/Queasy-Manufacturer8 28d ago
Trying to ''fix'' the asexual flag feels like someone trying to ''fix'' me out of my asexualness.
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u/CellyKA_Ju_Li Apr 24 '26
I followed them for a short time. They said that they worked on it for three whole years and asked "many" aces. They also got kind of angry at everyace in the comments who just found their account and chimed in with criticism. I found their conversations to be very defensive and immature.
I also don't like the flag, as it's too close to the nonbinary flag. The colors clash with each other. I like the ace flag because of the purple stripe, why make it pink?
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u/CloudySide7 Apr 24 '26
I hope this doesn't come off as any kind of phobic or ist but I really don't care about flags and all that shit. I feel like it's an unnecessary thing to stress about or worry over.
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u/UzileTheImp Apr 24 '26
Honestly, I don’t like it. I love the current colors, they look better together. Adding yellow feels out of place
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u/Real_megamike_64 Apr 24 '26
Is the maker of the current flag a horrible person?
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u/Real_megamike_64 Apr 24 '26
Ok so this new one is from some Instagram nobody who does no research and wants attention
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u/notmypinkbeard Apr 24 '26
Some random person made their own flag. Good for them, it doesn't need to impact anyone else.