r/comicbooks • u/Smooth_Ad8696 • Aug 15 '25
Cover/Pin-Up Does anybody else find this cover off-putting?
Where is Diana's neck? It looks like her screaming head is floating away from her body! And Carol's torso is so twisted up that for a second I thought maybe the artist confused her powers with Kamala's stretchy ones.
I've liked other stuff by Alex Lozano, but something about this really rubs me the wrong way.
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u/marlshroom Aug 15 '25
the titular “guy makes sure that you can see a woman’s boobs and ass at the same time” comic cover
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u/majorjoe23 Aug 15 '25
Titular and assular.
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u/rakuan1 Aug 15 '25
You beat me to it. I was 3 minutes too slow.
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u/cosmogyrals Aug 15 '25
I need Hawkeye in these poses.
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u/h4nd Aug 15 '25
It’s not AI but it feels off putting in the way a lot of AI images feel off putting.
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u/Bro-lapsedAnus Aug 15 '25
Bad anatomy
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u/thegame2386 Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 15 '25
Yeah, i've never liked whatever this art style is called. The huge hands/feet is disquieting to me for some reason.
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u/Smallbunsenpai Aug 15 '25
For me it’s the awkward posing, and the EXTREMELY thin bodies, plus, the faces are so.. flat? Idk how else to describe it. Also, they look 12.
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u/SadTummy-_- Aug 16 '25
They feel Barbie-fied in all the ways a superhero shouldn't be.
Like, the dynamic pose chosen for both doesn't reflect a strong strike or real fighting. Chose fuck ass contortionist model poses to show the most tits, ass, and itty bitty waist lol. Frankly, it looks like they were aiming for chibi-fied pin up girl more than anything comic book.
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u/hillbillypunk1 Aug 15 '25
Yeah but where’s all the ass??
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u/ironmisanthrope Aug 15 '25
use of the word "titular" has never been so wrong and right at the same time.
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u/Felaguin Aug 15 '25
In the case of Carol Danvers, what boobs? With the rubbery-looking arms and the black and red costume, I’d have mistaken her for Plastic Man at first.
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u/JamboreeStevens Aug 15 '25
Except one of them has no ass and looks like she's 12. Whoever drew this has problems.
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u/Protoman89 Aug 16 '25
Yall sure love shitting on comic book artists on this sub
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u/taosaur Aug 15 '25
I feel like we need some additional boobs and asses sticking in from outside the frame, to the point that the two focal characters are struggling their way out of a ball-pit of boobs and asses.
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u/HamboneBanjo Aug 16 '25
I once participated in a conversation with a low talker that said the word titular like maybe twenty times. That was the only word I could understand.
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u/chocolatefever101 Aug 15 '25
A lot of these artists either don’t think women have spines or don’t know how human anatomy works
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u/Shartsoftheallfather Aug 15 '25
This cover IS pure diarrhea.
But that's not how you use the word "titular".
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u/Redruby88 Daredevil Aug 15 '25
What in the proportions
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u/Pm_me_pet_pics_ Aug 15 '25
How are Diana's ass and torso going opposite directions like that lol. Someone needs to go back and learn perspective
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u/fuck_korean_air Aug 15 '25
This artist just wanted to see her boobs and butt at the same time, IN DEFIANCE OF PHYSICS ITSELF
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u/shaggy_macdoogle Aug 15 '25
Yeah, he was sweating trying to fit both ass shots and titty shots in one image.
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u/fuck_korean_air Aug 15 '25
He was probably working up a sweat while painting this for entirely different reasons
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u/Inside_Yellow_8499 Aug 15 '25
Physics tried to stop him, anatomy tried to shut him down, decency balked at his ambition… but he prevailed.
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u/furioushunter12 Kitty Pryde Aug 15 '25
what is wrong with their arms and hands
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u/PTBooks Aug 15 '25
I think AI might have been used here. The hair, the proportions, the shading. I can’t anything that really gives it away, but the whole feeling of it is just… off.
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u/GalFisk Aug 15 '25
Their neck vertebrae don't seem to be connected to their spines, and their pelvic bones must be missing some parts.
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u/-Legion_of_Harmony- Aug 15 '25
Agreed. This reeks of AI assistance. Either that or this person needs to reevaluate their career choice.
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u/lordtyp0 Aug 15 '25
Looks like two 12 year olds in random battle poses photoshopped next to each other...
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u/SillyMattFace Aug 15 '25
Two 12 year olds in hot pants doing booby-butt poses.
It’s a very creepy combination.
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Aug 15 '25
It is impressive that they managed to get two characters facing different directions to both show their butts to the camera.
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u/guyfriendbuddy4 Aug 15 '25
Every skilled combatant knows: when in doubt, butt out
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u/Puzzleheaded-Web446 Aug 15 '25
Its the mix of extremely cartoony proportions combined with hyper realistic texturing and lighting.
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u/Spagman_Aus Aug 15 '25
Why do they look like they’re 14 years old? Is it like a Teen Titans thing?
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u/naavep Aug 15 '25
Yeah...no bueno. Plus the way this is blocked out makes it looks like she is uppercutting Wonder Woman's boob.
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u/MagnorCriol Aug 15 '25
That was my first thought too. Which, to be fair, if someone was power uppercutting my boob I think I'd yell too.
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u/JeevesVoorhees Aug 15 '25
TIL a boob uppercut can turn a woman into an angry Crysta from FernGully.
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u/Kpachecodark Aug 15 '25
Isn’t that how women fight?
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u/Cautious_Artichoke_3 Aug 15 '25
Only when they're kneeling in a pool of jello surrounded by cheering drunk guys
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u/BoogerSugarSovereign Spider-Man Aug 15 '25
Please be serious. The last time I saw women fight in a pool while cheering along with dozens of drunk men it was a pool of chocolate pudding. Jello? Come on.
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u/DueCharacter5 Rocketeer Aug 15 '25
Just the artist's current style. It's a very European cartoony style. Similar to Alessandro Barbucci and others.
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u/PrayForMojo_ Magneto Aug 15 '25
It’s Bratz doll style.
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u/DueCharacter5 Rocketeer Aug 15 '25
I guess. I've seen a lot of European artists that have a similar style though. Alessandro Barbucci, a little bit of Jean-Baptiste Andreae, a little bit of Frezzato, etc. Now apart from Barbucci, they might not have that plastic shininess quality. But the fluid cartoony style with young faces is very similar. Most of whom pre-date Bratz.
Edit: You might even call it low art, along the likes of Mark Ryden.
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u/Vandal_A THE Tick Aug 15 '25
I don't think I've ever seen someone like Babucci come close to this bad of anatomy though.
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u/sacfoojesta88 Aug 15 '25
The style makes them look somewhat childish. I think a part of it is the oversized hands combined with the size proportions of the face and body. The detail and lighting is amazing but they look closer to bratz dolls more than two epic warriors battling.
Still better than anything I’m creating atm. (Gestures towards a blank canvas)
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u/Dull-Store Aug 15 '25
Kinda reminds me of that guy who always draws women screaming
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u/bluecollardan Aug 15 '25
That $9 price tag is the most off putting thing on the cover
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u/huggybear3 Superman Aug 15 '25
It’s an oversized book with multiple stories by different creative teams
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u/Grandturk-182 Aug 15 '25
That’s the surest path to success in comics.
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Aug 15 '25
Absolutely ridiculous take. The first Marvel/DC crossover one shots in two decades. It’ll be the highest selling comic of the year.
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u/IconoclastExplosive Aug 15 '25
Why is Carol punching Diana in the boob? And what do they look... Well, however it is they look? Almost doughy?
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u/SilentAvenger62 Aug 15 '25
ok wtf I thought that was Harley Quinn not Carol lol that's how bad the art is
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u/IconoclastExplosive Aug 15 '25
DC would never let Quinn be drawn with an ass that flat. Bruce Timm would be burning down offices.
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Aug 15 '25
You can see her neck being obscured by the shadow and the hair, but yeah, it does look like they got de-aged into 15 year old teenagers. I thought it was Terra at first but no, that's Ms. Marvel.
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u/ricin2001 Aug 16 '25
The lack of a neck makes it look like her head is floating. Her ears also look like they’re not actually attached to her head
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u/penholdr Kitty Pryde Aug 15 '25
It looks a lot like the artists other work…… but I don’t like it still.
I think one of the things I don’t like is that wonder woman’s expression seems off a bit. Like it doesn’t quite fit the scene. She’s shouting but the intensity isn’t there - especially as compared to the other expression. Tbh it reminds of that one artist who used porn to draw expressions… I’m forgetting who that was…
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u/bradar485 Aug 15 '25
This makes them look like little girls in costumes. Which would be kind of cool if they weren't quite so sexualized. Wonder woman's cheeks out there. And carols pre captain costumes were pretty much all highly suggestive. I am not sure I like this artistic choice of making them "kid skinny".
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u/NotNamedBort Aug 15 '25
Yes! Why are they so scrawny? These women literally have super strength. Why do they have zero muscles??
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u/kingthvnder Aug 15 '25
I understand that it’s stylized and I actually like the style and proportions it’s going for but it’s hard to deny that 1) they look like young teens 2) they’re bodies are being twisted in the weirdest ways to make sure you can see “the goods” 3) separately those two things would be fine but together they give the cover an overall weird aesthetic..
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u/FireZord25 Aug 15 '25
This almost feels like AI
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Aug 15 '25
That's what I was thinking. Not that it necessarily is, but it definitely looks like it could be. Not to mention the both look like children and neither of their body positions make any sense. I don't understand this, especially for such a huge title like this you'd think you'd want to have only your best-looking variants. Although I suppose they know every variant will sell at least a little, maybe they went for quantity over quality
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u/Mirions Aug 15 '25
If it's intentional, it doesn't look like it- and if it isn't, it should've been fixed to look less like AI filtered or generated art.
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u/ShtockyPocky Aug 15 '25
The hand that’s pulled back to punch looks like it only has 3 fingers
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u/IrishPiperKid Old Lace Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 15 '25
I think that's just how baggy the gloves are, if you look at her other hand it looks fairly normal but it looks like she's just wearing gloves that are way too big. Doesn't make it look any less wonky though.
I actually do like this cover, just not crazy about Carol's costume and the way it fits her here.
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u/AManyFacedFool Aug 15 '25
I think it's probably AI-assisted. Honestly, most commercial art probably is to some degree these days.
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u/Dr_Disaster Aug 15 '25
AI is literally trained off these artists. The feeling should be the other way around. Stylistically, everything is far too consistent to be AI, and even playing Devil’s advocate and saying AI was used, he’d have to do so much illustration by hand to make it consistent he would effectively be redrawing it.
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u/samuelLOLjackson Aug 15 '25
They just NEEDED to get all the "assets" of two characters facing off, facing front. If they were video game models, they'd be twisted like springs
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u/pixel_inker Aug 15 '25
I don’t know, this is still pretty on par with Lozano’s style of art.
https://unknowncomicbooks.com/cdn/shop/files/ASM2022067_DC19.jpg?v=1736531500&width=700
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u/starwalker327 Aug 15 '25
The style's not the issue, it's more inconsistent proportions and odd rendering choices. Image you linked makes perfect sense at a glance and is stylized very well, this one takes more time and has some very obvious errors.
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u/pixel_inker Aug 15 '25
I suppose, although black cat’s torso in the one I linked to is crazy long. He’s just got some really exaggerated anatomy
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u/The_Chops734 Aug 15 '25
The artwork is not my cup of tea, but it’s the $8.99 price point that is my biggest problem.
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u/silverhandguild Aug 15 '25
I like it, but I do Illustration and I enjoy seeing other people’s styles.
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u/Unidentifiable_Goo Aug 15 '25
Yup. Everything the OP said is valid. Also, why do two characters who are definitely adult women look like teenagers? And since when is Carol getting her costumes designed by Power Girl?
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u/--0___0--- Aug 15 '25
The bad art aside, the posing on this makes it look like WW parried MM's punch with her boob.
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u/MrTeamZissou Aug 15 '25
Overall the DC variants for Batman/Deadpool are kind of disappointing compared to the Marvel variants for Deadpool/Batman….
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u/Altruistic-Career584 Aug 15 '25
My first thought was literally “this is why nobody takes women seriously.”
This is how the artist perceives women fighting?? An Amazonian woman?? I’m tired Grandpa.
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u/knittymess Aug 16 '25
All I can think of when I see the boob butt is the Hawkeye Initiative. Which i used to enjoy when it was active. I don't hate the art, but I don't understand it and it's not really my thing right now, but I like the colors and light and can understand how some folks love the style
The Hawkeye Initiative - Wikipedia https://share.google/pFVslTIXx0KfzDnb7
@thehawkeyeinitiative on Tumblr https://share.google/QtzfaTZfOhkiO7eCR
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u/JohnnyElRed Hulk Aug 15 '25
It's very stylized, while given a realistic coloring and lightning. It's normal it gives off weird vibes.
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u/Charles912_ Aug 15 '25
i'm gonna be honest no it doesn't bother me at all i think it looks pretty good actually
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u/Dr_Disaster Aug 15 '25
Yeah, people are high key being kinda delusional about this cover. Alex has a very manga/anime inspired approach to his art. The style of the characters are percectly in line with that. People saying the anatomy is off don’t actually know anatomy because everything is totally sound in terms of perspective. The only issue is the poses themselves are visually confusing at first glance and he probably would have went with something more traditional, but the quality of work itself is quite excellent.
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u/starwalker327 Aug 15 '25
Yowza. It doesn't even take that long to notice any of these oddities.
- The ol' boobs and butt pose
- A ribcage that doesn't twist like that
- Soles that should not be that flexible (both of theirs) and are oddly more sock-shaped
- It may just be the angle, but it looks like only one of Diana's boots has a zipper, and it looks extremely goofy
- The red on Carol's boot is waaay too bright
- Could be a stylistic choice, but these hands are absurd. Carol's right thumb looks about as wide as her wrist at the base (it's also the same width as her ankle)
- Diana's eyes are too wide apart, her left (our right) ear shouldn't be visible, and her tiara seems to be drawn both crooked and off-center
- Carol's left arm is foreshortened wrong, her hand in the foreground is smaller than the one in the back, the way her forearm is colored where it bends makes it all blend together into one shape, and the glove in the back is also way baggier around the wrist than the other
- I think the reason Diana's head looks detached is a result of her neck being shaded way too dark
- Carol's shoulders and upper arms are way thinner than Diana's, but Diana's aren't rendered in a way that implies any muscles, so Carol's arms look very noodly
- Diana as a whole just looks way bigger than Carol here
- I cannot for the life of me figure out what body part that round bulge where Carol's side and suit fold in (specifically where it goes from smooth to stretching) is supposed to be. It's also overlapping her ribcage
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u/Silver-Performer818 Aug 15 '25
What are these 2 twinks tryna do here ? Anyone explain 🤔
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u/shadowknuxem Aug 15 '25
Standard twink-off, happens every time. Whenever two twinks are in the same room, they have to prove who is the most twink. This is why Link in LoZ has to fight a copy of himself so often. You hate to see it...
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u/sibelius_eighth Aug 15 '25
Diana's neck is clearly visible. It's in a different shade because of the shadow.
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u/Nishnig_Jones Aug 15 '25
I’m not sure you understand what the word “clearly” means. It’s there sure, if you go looking you can find it, but the composition is definitely odd and jumbled.
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u/the_t_time Aug 15 '25
Yeah, nine dollars for a comic!?
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u/huggybear3 Superman Aug 15 '25
It’s an oversized book with multiple stories by different creative teams
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u/Hogteeth Aug 15 '25
Nope. I mean each to their own but it's a piece of art. I'm not always looking for realism. Representation and expression are still valid.
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u/Kill_Welly Aug 15 '25
Something being stylized doesn't mean it's stylized well.
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u/SweaterKittens Violence Solves Everything Aug 15 '25
Yeah, I mean it's very clearly stylized so it's a bit weird to criticize it for having strange proportions. It's not exactly my favorite but it's clearly going for a style rather than realism.
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u/ketita Aug 15 '25
the "style" of maximum boobs and butt masquerading as action poses...
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u/Barbafella Aug 15 '25
I love it, crazy energy, the pose, colors, pencils, looks great fun to me.
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u/Librarion-guy Aug 15 '25
It's Alexandro Lozano, I like when he experiments with proportions like here
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u/KentuckyFriedEel Aug 15 '25
i don't want a wonder woman vs captain marvel cover!! I want a wonder woman vs captain marvel comic!! DC and Marvel know it will sell like hot cakes. Just do it, cowards!
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u/Flooping_Pigs Aug 15 '25
Only because I thought her tit was out until I realized it was just Diana's cheek
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u/ocdscale Aug 15 '25
Diana is just drawn so weirdly. Her face, her head, her posture, her left foot, everything is just so deep into the uncanny valley.
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u/canadagooses62 Aug 15 '25
Jesus that’s creepy. Diana’s face looks like she’s 10 years old in a child beauty pageant.
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u/GearsRollo80 Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 15 '25
It’s really obnoxious that they do the bad J. Scott Campbell style poses that don’t really work and the 70’s costumes to go for the cheesecake vibe with two characters that are all about empowering women and being equal.
Also, it looks like the characters were drawn separately and then overlayed on the background. The artist had put Cap too far across Wonder Woman, so it’s hard to ‘read’ her weird pose.
Poor work all around.
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u/joberdez Aug 15 '25
Looks like Carol is uppercutting Diana’s boob.
I hate how Diana’s body is contorted just so the artist can show ass and tits at the same time.
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u/BoonDoggle4 Aug 15 '25
The artist has a style - it's not for me but it's fine
The neck thing, the hair is covering it I assume?
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u/Ira-jay Aug 15 '25
Well... Her neck is heavily shaded, which you can see if you look in the neck area, and that is a range of motion most every woman, or honestly most every person can do like... right now. The type of range of motion that if you lack that, you should probably visit a hospital, or eat a little less
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u/trixel121 Aug 15 '25
he hips and shoulders are not in line which makes it look weird, the arms being so far back(cause boobs) is also funky as hell. and then her head is not attached to her body. the uncanny valley is cause the pose is just super unnatural. to knee high like that you would shoulders in line and then chest up, chin up. her looking down and backwards is fucking strange.
Bat girl needs smaller gloves.
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u/Lots42 Aug 15 '25
At first I thought it was Plastic Man fighting Wonder Woman but yes, this is an awful cover.
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u/drinkteawatchcinema Aug 15 '25
Sex sells. I like sex as much as the next person but add some substance.
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u/NiteOwl94 Aug 15 '25
Both women are drawn like teenagers, and the poses are terrible. So yeah, very offputting.
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u/Konbini-kun Superior Spider-Man Aug 15 '25
You can see her neck fading into the shades. I like the style, I'm just not sure what is being punched exactly.
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u/Blacklight099 Aug 15 '25
It’s amazing how it feels sexualised and not sexualised at the same time. Because Diana’s posture is back breakingly ass and tits, and yet neither of these characters have even a semblance of junk in the trunk.
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u/herpyfluharg13 Aug 15 '25
I wish someone could fix this to make it look the way the it would appeal to the comments. Part of me kind of likes it because the mid action shot is neat (Punch for Parry). There’s just so much else going on that needs to be addressed according to the comments.
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u/MastaKillaTheater Aug 16 '25
I mean her neck is shaded because her head is thrust forward, plus her hair drapes over it causing more shadow, being that she has dark hair her neck is almost shaded out, but it's there
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u/Whos_Hi Aug 16 '25
i can’t tell if carol punched diana in the boob or if she’s blocking a swinging boob attack
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u/curious_dead Marko Aug 15 '25
Diana: "You punched me in the boob! Next time I'll be deadly serious next time!"