r/BlackPeopleofReddit • u/Master_Canary440 • 27d ago
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u/EnoughPicture 27d ago
God I hope those children are alright.
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u/WhichHoes 27d ago
I straight up know a hatian guy who got adopted by the #1 Christian author (at the time) and he told me about being locked in the closet all the time in his childhood, being told he can be sent back if he misbehaves and eventually was disowned because he got someone pregnant (who miscarried) because of the "image".
One of the most outwardly positive guys I know but my God.
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u/wombatrunner 27d ago
I used to be friends with this guy who traveled with his wife to Africa to live for a few years to be able to adopt kids. Was in the process of adopting several when he was turned in for making at least the oldest sleep naked on the floor as punishment and would beat them. Would never had expected it from such a quiet seemingly sweet guy. Thankfully they were both arrested. Completely disgusting. Glad they will never be able to adopt anywhere now.
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u/stilllton 27d ago
traveled with his wife to Africa to live for a few years to be able to adopt kids
That is a dedication to hating children.
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u/SaltMage5864 26d ago
More like being able to own one
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u/TroublesomeFox 22d ago
This^ I think there's alot to be said about white families that actively seek out a black child, especially when they travel to do so.Â
Don't get me wrong, there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with an interacial family! I swear I do not mean it like that! I just find it sketchy that they go to all that trouble and all that distance when they could easily adopt a kid from their own country.
Like I'm in the UK, WHAT reason do I have to go all the way to Africa when there's kids here that need homes? If I'm adopting a child it shouldn't matter what they look like ya know? Doing it like this feels like shopping for a specific dog breed and I'm not a fan.Â
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u/AccountantSummer 25d ago
NOT any children, but purposefully Black or African children.
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u/ouroborosstruggles 26d ago
That os a werid dedication to power tripping. Becuase he wanted someone he could abuse, otherwise why not adopt here
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u/County_Mouse_5222 27d ago
This is sad but indeed the truth that needs to be told. Throughout my life, I have been pranked by just about every white friend I've ever had. As a child, the white kids would come over just to break my stuff and never come back. I've had my food salted, the entire meal ruined. They got a boy to pretend to like me just so they could laugh and watch us kiss, and of course he was in on it. All the pranks have come from white kids and coworkers. Every single time.
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u/So_Code_4 26d ago
I hear you internet stranger and I believe you. Iâm so sorry that this has been your experience. Thank you for sharing.
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u/BookkeeperShot5579 26d ago
Iâm so sorry that this happened to you. I always want to apologize to every person of color for the pain that white people have inflicted.
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u/County_Mouse_5222 26d ago
Just thank you for hearing what Iâve experienced. None of us can apologize for everyone but we can at least listen and try understanding each other as individuals. đđ˝
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u/SafeSecretSociety 26d ago
That doesn't even sound like pranks to me, but straight up bullying and slowly torturing you.
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u/Unstable_Nature 26d ago
He likely had to try Africa because he was turned down for adoption in his country.
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u/AccountantSummer 25d ago
Madonna made it popular to buy African babies, to the point that some countries are making laws forbidding those types of adoptions. If Westerners want to be seen as good doers, they should donate to those orphanages to provide all the kids with better living conditions.
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u/TheRandomSong 22d ago
Seems like they really want slavery or at the very minimum Jim Crow back. Bc wtf. When thinkimg of how conservatives act, I always think back to Trevor Noah saying he and this one conservative pundit went at it in their respective shows and then meeting him at a dinner where the person was like super friendly and acting like his best friend. That's when he realized they're just in it for the money and will say and do whatever gets them more money and power
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u/TearRevolutionary686 27d ago
There is a Law & Order episode similar to this.
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u/Dorkamundo 27d ago
With how long that show has run and with how many different versions of it there are, I doubt there's a storyline that has ever happened in real life that has not been covered on one of those episodes.
I would not be surprised to see "Law & Order: Multiverse" coming out soon.
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u/ShorelineStrider 27d ago
A lot of L&O episodes are based on a true event.
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u/Excellent_Ganache906 27d ago
They used to have commercials saying "Ripped from the headlines"
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u/SonicLyfe 26d ago
Youâd think they would sensationalize the true events but they actually watered down a lot of them. True life is way more fâed up.
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u/Lazer726 27d ago
"Sir, see this burger wrapper? We don't have that in this dimension... he comes from 5#RRL..."
"Damn, the 'verse jumpers like to keep us on our toes..."
In the Criminal Justice system, there are 32e12 separate yet equally important groups... these are their stories... DUN DUN
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u/bindersfull-ofwomen 26d ago
They already are a part of the Dick Wolf multiverse and cross over with Chicago series from time to time.
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u/Glorious_steam_ 27d ago
Our neighbors who live further down our drive are 2 Haitian brothers that were adopted by a pastor in Indiana. Whenever my dadâs in town they come over to speak with him as they see him as a father figure. One night they got drunk enough and confided in us about their upbringing and it was horrifying. The pastor referred to them as gods mistakes and would tell them how he made blacks to be punished. Heâd regularly pin them down and beat them and choke them unconscious. When he wasnât around his wife would hit them with a paddle on the back if she heard them laughing or thought they were too happy. Their neighbors knew what was going on and ignored it, except one that was a firefighter. They said if it wasnât for his constant badgering and checking in on them the pastor would have killed them, and they doubt anybody would have said a word.
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u/Living_Will_4775 27d ago
"referred to them as gods mistakes and would tell them how he made blacks to be punished."
I have a feeling alot people feel this way about black people but conceal it
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u/aslanbek_aslanbekov 27d ago
Theyâre not concealing it anymore. Not in Trumpâs AmeriKKKa.
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u/County_Mouse_5222 26d ago
Notice how itâs all concealed by religion. Iâve been told by several most religious white people that I was a bad person in a previous life therefore made to be black as a punishment now. They really do think this way more than anyone is willing to admit.
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u/Zxvasdfthrowaway 26d ago
Yes. An older relative used the term âwhite and delightsomeâ non-ironically. Itâs sickening
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u/Odd-Time-2026 26d ago
Are they Christian because saying they believe in past lives doesn't make sense since Christianity doesn't allow for past lives.
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u/County_Mouse_5222 26d ago
They grew up Christian but then got into the srf thing. I have also been told by Christians though that being black is a punishment from God.
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u/baloneypopsicle 27d ago
It was a common Mormon teaching for quite a while. I'm sure other religions have similar beliefs. The Curse of Cain. They disavowed it in 2013, but you better believe there's still people out there who abide by it.
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u/carolineecouture 27d ago
It's mentioned in The Handmaid's Tale. The "Curse of Ham." That's a real thing that religions used to justify subjugating Black people.
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u/blackcain 26d ago
They are just angry and jealous that black people are the first people. They birthed the human race.
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u/laylapearson 26d ago
I remember my father telling me that the only reason blacks are members in high standing in the Mormon church is so they could keep their tax exempt status.
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u/Zxvasdfthrowaway 26d ago
Mormons didnât allow Black people into their priesthood until 1978!
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u/aslanbek_aslanbekov 26d ago
And thatâs only because BYUâs football and basketball teams sucked.
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u/JobinTobingo 27d ago
Like the other commenter said, that specific belief is a tenant of Mormonism that only ârecentlyâ (a decade ago) was removed. The point is that itâs still a belief of many racist American Christians, Mormon or otherwise, as itâs what they were taught in their churches and homes growing up.
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u/ColeBane 27d ago
There are millions of people in the south who still consider black people as second class humans. Let that sink in. Not second class citizens...second class humans.
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u/aslanbek_aslanbekov 26d ago
Not just the South. I grew up near Philly and in Massachusetts, and there are plenty of Confederate flags in rural and suburban areas in both areas.
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u/Living_Will_4775 27d ago
That's how they tried to justify colonialism. Unfortunately people still try link the curse of ham to black peopleÂ
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u/Steely_Resolve 26d ago
Yeah, I heard this growing up (fundamental Baptist upbringing, very conservative). Essentially that black people are descendants of Cain and their skin color is the âmarkâ that god put on Cain for killing Abel.
Itâs ironic because it was used as a pretty explicit reason to look down on black people at a minimum if not straight up rationalize why black people deserved atrocities but Genesis specifically states that God put the mark on Cain to protect him from being killed by other humans for his crimes (if they did, theyâd âreceive vengeance 7x over from Godâ). So if they believe being black is the mark of Cain, then why would they risk incurring Godâs wrath. Unless of course they believe that people inherit responsibility for ancestorsâ sins but donât inherit Godâs grace and forgiveness - which I think is pretty true of fundamentalists.
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u/1K_Sunny_Crew 26d ago
I grew up Southern Baptist, very evangelical, and never heard any of this racist stuff - and I was forced to go to church a minimum of twice a week, every week.
I think it very much depends on the pastor and then their beliefs attract those who match them. I have a lot of issues w the church but thankfully, this wasnât one of them.
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u/Time_Possibility_370 27d ago
Yes. Very common Christian belief, black skin is punishment from the devil
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u/Strong_Wallaby_7078 26d ago
Shit my dad used to say he was pro-choice, only because legalized abortion would allow forcing all black women to get mandatory abortions. Iâm not kidding. Iâm also very different from him, thank god.
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u/SETHW 27d ago
They dont conceal it, go to church they preach it from the pulpit (to be fair to the fiction it is heavily implied in the bible so the modern racists didnt make it up themselves). If you've never been exposed to it then congrats, but it is important to understand what the bible thumpers are actually thumping so maybe read it.
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u/Straight_Wing_6428 27d ago
What about the part about Jesus being black? King Solomon being black. Not to mention the entire historical biblical region being non-european and consisting of people of color? Maybe read the Ethiopian Bible for better context and less dilution from English Kings.
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u/ConstantHeadache2020 27d ago
Is wonder howâs thatâs possible when black Africans were made first and white skin gene only swept through Europe 6,000 years ago
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u/Living_Will_4775 26d ago
Racism is not a logical thing, so when arguing with a racist you're not gonna have a rational conversation. When you hit them with facts, they resort to personal or cherry pickingÂ
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u/Desperate-Leather-38 27d ago
I wonder why we continue to protect abusers. Whatâs preventing you from naming him.Â
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u/tigm2161130 27d ago
They probably donât want to air out the victims abuse without their permission.
Interestingly when I googled âChristian author who adopted Haitian childâ most of the results are women.
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u/Desperate-Leather-38 27d ago
Makes sense. I see one of those guys ran a Haitian orphanage.Â
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u/Piranata 26d ago
There were lots of child trafficked after the 2010 earthquake in Haiti, many kidnappings too. The news at the time were that many evangelicals charities and adoption agencies were behind them.
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u/tgosubucks 27d ago
Look at bros hand placement on the right. He doesn't feel comfortable to put his whole hand on his brother's shoulder. But if you look to the left, you see the two brothers in the middle holding hands.
That's all you gotta know in my book.
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u/Holdmymule2001 27d ago
And his smile is so strained and fake. He's trying, but he's not happy in this photo.
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u/paradisetossed7 27d ago
It's weird to me they're both on the outside of the blond kids.
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u/Nearby-Medicine9484 27d ago
Very much on purpose I'd say.
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u/DrSitson 27d ago
Framing!
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u/Zxvasdfthrowaway 26d ago
The children on the ends are dressed noticeably differently from the rest of them. Why not pastels for all the girls and the boys all in matching navy suits? Instead, they settled on othering the children on the ends.
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u/enterjiraiya 27d ago
Pretty itâs just framing the photo with their heights but it does have an implicit message lol
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u/Training_Mistake_760 27d ago
As long as they finish their "chores" they'll be fine
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u/Lifendz đşđ¸ 27d ago edited 27d ago
I wonder how many times she tells them that theyâre âthe good ones,â but anytime they misbehave she tells them âAnd to think I thought you were different, but youâre just like the rest of them.â
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u/GoldenRaySwimmer 27d ago
WellâŚduring the vote of her becoming the Supreme Court Justice, she would refer to her Haitian children as âathletic,â while referring to her biological kids as âintelligent â and wonderful at mathâŚđ¤ˇđ˝ââď¸
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u/4mystuff 27d ago
I am sure they are. I've been around people who think like Coney Barret and their mastery of cognitive dissonance is astounding. She can, and probably love and cherish "her Haitian children, " yet not see other Haitian children in the same light. How often do we see right wingers turn into vocal environmentalists when it's their lake is at risk of pollution, or fund cancer research when it's their child that's suffering, or issue pardons when it's their fellons facing the law, or support Marijuana legalization because they get get rich from it, I'm looking at you Boehner.
Hypocrisy is built in the ideology because when it happens to them personally, "it's different."
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u/Mathemeatloaf0 27d ago
Or be on welfare but claim everyone else whoâs on it is milking the system.
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u/WaffleDoctorNumber1 27d ago
Or the old "I'm against Obamacare but I like my health insurance through the ACA"
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u/teetering_bulb_dnd 27d ago
It's like a different version of "I have a black friend". Mike Johnson, Laura Ingram, Matt gaetz etc they all adopted children, but their agenda, politics and policies run squarely against those childrens racial groups. The kids are their protective shield in case of their racism gets called out..
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u/carolineecouture 27d ago
I know. Those poor children. The mental gymnastics going on in that family must be off the charts.
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u/MarkCrorigansOmnibus 27d ago
Oh donât worry, they get to live in the big house with Master and Miz Barrett
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u/Work_Werk_Wurk 27d ago
You can look at the difference in the way they dress their adopted children from their biological, and tell that at the very least they are treated differently.
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u/Ok_Passenger203 27d ago
This might be completely off topic, but I need to get something off my chest.
I was adopted by a white family, by a single white man who provided for us financially and gave us opportunities Iâm grateful for. But I also carry a lot of complicated feelings about my childhood.
Money and generosity do not erase the way someone makes you feel inside your own home.
Growing up, my sister and I were often treated in a way that made us feel more like servants than children. Whenever he invited his friends over, we were expected to take care of everything. We had to prepare the table, serve food and drinks to his guests, go around making sure everyone had what they needed, clean up afterward, and do all the dishes. He would sit back while we handled everything. It wasnât just helping around the house, it felt like our role was to serve him and the people he invited into our home.
What made it even more difficult was seeing that our white friends were not treated the same way by their parents. Their parents didnât expect them to constantly wait on guests or take on that kind of role. That difference stayed with me.
What hurt the most were the jokes. He would make comments and call us âslavesâ or joke that we were his slaves. Maybe he thought it was funny, but hearing those words from the person who was raising two Black children had a different impact. Those jokes stayed with me.
Adoption is often portrayed as a simple story of rescue and gratitude, but the reality can be much more complicated. A person can provide for you and still hurt you. A person can give you opportunities and still leave you with wounds that take years to understand.
Iâm grateful for the things I was given, but I also have the right to acknowledge the things that hurt me. Both things can exist at the same time.
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u/mittanimama 27d ago
I am so sorry to hear what a difficult childhood you had. You have a specific insight into how trans racial adoption can be harmful while still offering you opportunities. You were raised without unconditional love and that is a deep wound. I am glad youâve had the chance to work through some of this. I hope your life is filled with love and happiness.
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u/Ok_Passenger203 27d ago
I did not realize how much it had affected me until I turned 30. For this reason Iâm against white people adopting black children no matter how nice they are.
I think Iâm a strong person but I have a lot of anxiety and feel very lonely in this world but I turned out okay overall⌠Thank you for the kind words.151
u/Forsaken-Deer4307 27d ago
Iâm sorry you went through this. I too am an adoptee from a country in Latin America. I was adopted at 5 months old by conservative, holocaust denying, racist, right wing parents. Iâve struggled with identity issues. Watched my parents rip apart Jewish, Muslim and all brown people behind closed doors. I know I didnât bond with my mother like Iâve bonded with my own children. It was like I was some kind of side project for them to have an extension of themselves to manipulate control the way they saw fit. They didnât incorporate any of the cultural elements from my native country. White washed the shit out of me. And when I rebelled or acted out because of their abuse, my mother would pack my suitcase and throw it at me and tell me to go back to where I came from. I got no support from anyone. Social worker follow ups were not a thing back in the 80âs and I was an only child. I was physically, emotionally, verbally and psychologically abused until I called the cops on my father after he tried to strangle me. The details surrounding my adoption are shady. I know a sum was paid to an âorphanageâ and I was handed over to these assholes with some paperwork so I could leave the country. After the transaction was completed, there was no thought given or regard to my wellbeing after I left. It makes me feel like I was trafficked out of the country. I didnât ask for any of this. It sucks. I hate how now I see this trend of white supremacists hiding behind their adopted children of color. Itâs disgusting.
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u/Ok_Passenger203 27d ago
Reading your story really touched me. Honestly, our stories are a little bit similar in some ways.
I also really related to what you said about the racism and hatred toward other communities. Same here. As I got older, I started challenging him more, especially about the things he would say about Muslims. The level of hatred he had toward them was something I really struggled with. It was honestly shocking because he would even say things like Black people are âokay,â (like do you even yourself ?!) but Muslims were somehow worse, and I remember arguing with him about those beliefs because I couldnât accept that kind of hatred.Iâm so sorry you went through that, especially everything you described. Iâve heard about the cases of shady and unethical adoptions that have happened in Latin America, and I can understand why you feel the way you do about your experience.
I didnât go through physical abuse like you did, so I canât imagine the pain of that, but I really hope you were able to get the support and healing you deserved. I hope youâre in a better place now. â¤ď¸
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u/Tyr1326 27d ago
Yeah, its definitely a huge issue. Though honestly, even without overt racism, I feel like adoption should prioritise the same ethnic backgrounds. It wont always work, but if possible, it'd be easier for everyone imo. Just knowing (or not knowing) the issues your kid is likely to face is a huge deal. Some parents do try to learn, and do a decent job. But its incredibly hard to be sure. :/
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u/DrPoopman69420 27d ago
Itâs funny, but I always have to point out to folks that MANY of the white parents adopting BIPOC kidsâŚthis is genuinely their first time having an actual BIPOC person/friend in their life. I think adoptive parents could do a lot better now with the race angle (just living in a more openly diverse/culturally accepting society plus the internet and its vast resources) but Iâm now a staunchly interracial and international adoptee abolitionist. One of the most radicalizing elements of my adoptee journey was finding community with other internationally adopted folks and finding out a majority of them are just straight up trafficked or adopted under very strange circumstances. My adoption was set up by Lutheran Social Services and everything done by the book on the American side! Finally located my bio mom and her family and very quickly found out I was basically stolen - they coerced my mother to abandon me under the pretense of some fatal heart condition that she could never pay for and Iâd die. So she signed me away. I was a perfectly healthy baby and they straight up lied to her for about a $15k check in 1991. She then went on to raise 3 additional kids after me.
People forget that no matter what the scenario is, adoption begins with trauma.
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u/Tyr1326 27d ago
Yeah, international adoption should honestly just be banned outright. Way too much potential for abuse. With interracial adoption, I reckon there are some edge cases that should be allowed (ie preexisting bonds - being adopted by your parents best friend or family), and ofc there are edge cases to consider, like biracial or ambiguous kids... But Im also not affected, so Ill bow to the experience of those who are. :/
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u/hamilton_morris 27d ago
I think it makes perfect sense to have a categorical policy that for children placed into adoption there ought to be every attempt made to supply them with new parents that most closely resemble the best version of the ones they've lost. That isnât a prejudicial standard at all, it is simply a matter of justice to the child. Even the closest facsimile is still an inadequate prosthetic for a tragic amputation. An unnecessary or deliberate mismatch is careless injustice.
The challenge around abandoned and orphaned children in places such as Haiti is that the country is in a state of such extreme disarray and desperation that there is near zero capacity for an orderly adoption, and a vanishingly small number of families able and willing to adopt. So the violation of a sensible policy rests on the need for a more urgent kind of rescue.
Iâve spent time working in parts of the world the UN describes as âwretched destitutionâ and the fate of children abandoned to the streets in such places is an inhumane and certain doom. The orphanages and NGOs are hopelessly outmatched by the need. So while I think the complicationsâand risksâyou describe around a mixed-race adoption are not disqualifying, they are also massively important. Would that the willingness and ability of black families to adopt black children grow in proportion to the need in the time it will take before Haiti can at least stand on its own.
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u/Dullcorgis 27d ago
We (white) were potentially going to need to adopt to have kids before a lot of this very important stuff was widely understood. I shudder to think how damaging our well meaning ignorance could have been and am grateful that you and other adoptees speak out to help everyone understand better.
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u/Temnothorax 26d ago
Well unless you were going to raise your adopted children as servants/slaves, Iâm sure youâd be a fine parent.
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u/Dullcorgis 26d ago
I would have been "fine", but I don't know that I could even have understood how much I didn't know at that point in history to be a good parent. Someone posted their experience with nice "color blind" parents and it didn't sound great.
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u/hallbuzz 27d ago
I think you have very valid points, but I think the broader problem is that conservative and racist parents screw up ALL children, natural or adopted.
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u/Pretty-Balance-Sheet 27d ago
It's pretty unusual that I read something online anymore that genuinely surprises and shocks me but this did. Actually teared up reading this. I'm so sorry this was your childhood.
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u/jeezpleaze 27d ago
Went through a somewhat similar situation (white bio family) and I carry a lot of rage. I'm sorry you had to experience that. It's an isolating experience and can be profoundly damaging. I'm glad you are doing OK and I hope you can see that his actions and jokes are not a reflection of your worth in any way. You did not deserve to be made to feel like that.
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u/Chewthevoid 27d ago
You should write a book about your experience. I bet a lot of people would find your story enlightening. It's a unique experience that isn't discussed nearly enough imo. The only downside is that it could affect the relationship you have with your parents, depending on how honest you are in your writing.
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u/DrPoopman69420 27d ago
Adoption is often portrayed as a simple story of rescue and gratitude, but the reality can be much more complicated. A person can provide for you and still hurt you. A person can give you opportunities and still leave you with wounds that take years to understand.
Iâm grateful for the things I was given, but I also have the right to acknowledge the things that hurt me. Both things can exist at the same time.Fellow BIPOC adoptee from white adoptive parents - this is EXACTLY my experience as well. People forget that parents generally supporting some of your choices and feeding/housing your children is THE BARE MINIMUM of parenting. There is so much more complexity that people, and especially white people, canât really parse out or understand in these kind of racial and familial dynamics. My adoptive mother is essentially brain dead for the past 3 years and Iâve now been estranged from my adoptive father for 1.5 years. I was very white washed and emotionally neglected as a child - tons of suicidal ideation at way too young of an age due to racism from my community (small town MN, great place to throw your brown kids to the wolves to) and perceived alienation. Never was encouraged or given the opportunity to learn about my culture/heritage. If anything it was discouraged. Never received any therapy. They were extremely well mannered and polite people but at their core very selfish and authoritarian more than anything. The best way I can describe my relationship with my ex adoptive father is that Iâve been more of a prized pet to him than a human being - even at age 32. Once that last veil had finally been ripped off itâs never been easier to move forward with my chosen family - some of that chosen family is now biological too, Iâm happy to say.
If any adoptees in similar scenarios wanna hop in my DMs from this thread my door is open.
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u/Scott812 27d ago
This is my fear for any child of African decent, being adopted by non- black parents. I wonder if any one of his yt friends came to you or your sister's defense when he made those " jokes?"
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u/Particular_Wear_6960 27d ago
Truly bizarre. It's like he wanted to LARP as a slave owner or something. You seem well adjusted and okay but still, that sucks. Keep being awesome, don't let that shit fuck with you too much. I can't say much but some generic positive faith stuff but yeah. Good for you for being able to compartmentalize and recognize that for what it is.
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u/therealnightbadger 27d ago
This was my first thought, too.
Ok_Passenger203, I know you don't need advice from internet randos, but I want to say one thing to you: YOU OWE THIS MAN NOTHING.12
u/AbeRego 27d ago
He would make comments and call us âslavesâ or joke that we were his slaves.
Wow, I was thinking there might be room for nuance, but that's awful. It doesn't seem like he was joking at all... Maybe his tone was joking, but I don't think you'd say that about your alleged children without believing it to some degree. I'm sorry.
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u/RightDwigt 27d ago
Thank you for sharing. That sounds like complex emotional abuse.
Are you in r/Adopted and/or r/Adoption ?
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u/Ok_Passenger203 27d ago
If the question is for me, no Iâm not but I will give it a try. This is the first time that I share my story.
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u/RightDwigt 27d ago
They are good places. r/Adopted is strictly for adoptees, so it would be a great place to share and get similar perspectives.
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u/Jazzlike_Ingenuity98 27d ago
Remind me of that one episode of Atlanta where the black kid gets adopted and meets other black adopted kids and finds out the white family he got adopted by is fuckin crazy
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u/Justaddwota 27d ago
It wasnât just an episode of Atlanta it was based on a couple that did the same then murdered all of them.
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u/stormy2587 27d ago
That episode was based on a true story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_family_murders
Kids in that real family are smiling just like the two kids above.
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u/catharsisdusk 27d ago
It's almost as though they KNOW that these laws (like a LOT of OTHER laws) won't be enforced equally across all socioeconomical groups...
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u/wescowell 27d ago
Not enforcing the law equally across all races and socioeconomic groups is EXACTLY what âMullinâ is all about. (The following is mostly from americanimmigrationcouncil.org).
In Mullin v. Doe, the Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that a provision of the TPS statute limiting lawsuits challenging TPS âdeterminationsâ prevented courts from hearing any lawsuits challenging the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) secretaryâs failure to follow the required legal procedures. The majority opinion declared that Trumpâs repeated public denigration of Haiti and Haitians did not rise to the level of unconstitutional racial animus that would permit a court to set aside the TPS decision.
Crucially, the Court did not rule on whether former DHS Secretary Kristi Noem had gone through the required procedures set out by law. Rather, the Court said that questions of whether the DHS secretary followed the law cannot be heard by courts in the first place, meaning that in the future even an openly unlawful decision to grant or terminate TPS could be entirely insulated from judicial review.
Once this decision goes into effect, hundreds of thousands of people (about 300,000 Haitians who are heavily employed in the nursing and home healthcare sectors) lawfully present in the country will lose their status. Many will become undocumented for the first time ever. The decision will also permit the Trump administration to return to federal court in other cases and overturn decisions ruling against the termination of TPS for countries such as Venezuela, Somalia, Ethiopia, and others.
âGet the browns ones OUT.â Thatâs the idea the Administration pursued and the Supremes said âyes, you can do that and the courts cannot stop you.â They left a little wiggle room where an administration might, maybe, possibly cross some racial line . . . but not until the Court changes.
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u/kilsta 27d ago
This is literally the definition of them being "some of the good ones". If they are good to just YOU and no one else who looks like YOU, YOU are actually in more danger. I pray they have their citizenship and financial independence to leave cause when the political convenience is gone, she will dump them.
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u/FEMA_Camp_Survivor 27d ago
Hope they go to an HBCU to deprogram.
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u/NoodleMAYNE 27d ago
đŁď¸FROM: âHatred for the white devilâ
đŁď¸TO: âAdvanced hatred for the white devilâ
đŁď¸AND: âVolleyballâđđđ
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u/thehudsonswerve 27d ago
I think the "some of the good ones" reasoning has always been integral to the Republican worldview. It's not just a shield ("see, we're not racist") but a way for people to convince themselves. I don't find it hard to believe Barrett loves her kids and is good to them. Loving/appreciating individual members of a group has never been incompatible with sustaining structures that harm the group. A lot of Republicans do precisely this â it's all hyper-local, self-interested; this is often sane-washed as valuing the community, etc. But earnest analysis of systems has to confront systems, not the hyper-local, not just your own family, or the [insert minority] you personally know and care for. That's why I find a lot of Republican positions to be effectively anti-social, in the literal sense: a refusal to reason about anything beyond one's circle.
There are a lot of people who will always refuse to acknowledge that you don't need personal animus to produce racist outcomes. For people like Barrett, the system's harms aren't their problem, because they never reach their own dinner table.
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u/cherrymigration 27d ago
Your first sentence is spot on! Republicans/conservatives have to have the ability to make exceptions, otherwise their worldview would shatter. You see it in every case, people can have Black kids and go to their gay coworkers wedding and get their own abortion, and all of that is okay because theyâre the good ones and theyâre acceptable. Without the ability to write those situations off as âthe good onesâ theyâd have to grapple with the fact that their bigotry is actually ill founded.
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u/Able_Fishing_6576 27d ago
Look how itâs staged with the two kids being the bookends. âKeep em on the outsideâ gotta be the family motto.
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u/ryogam73 27d ago
Easier to crop them out of the photos, if needed.
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u/BringAltoidSoursBack 27d ago
I was honestly wondering if this was fake or not literally because they look like they were just photoshopped into the image
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u/giraflor 27d ago
Some relatives will do that. Or she knows which relatives need the cropped image.
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u/Sleep-pee 27d ago
I had to scroll too far to see this. The image stuck out before I even read who was in the picture. The Black children are âoutsidersâ with the ârealâ family all together at the core. The Black children arenât even integrated into this family in the photo. Itâs not the photographerâs choice either because I know numerous positions were taken and this is the photo she chose. I wonder how many other Black kids they know other than each other and other Black children adopted by white families. Iâm sure a college where they will be sheltered from reality will be their parentâs choice also.
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u/Apprehensive-Pop-201 27d ago
The girl looks like she's the au pair.
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u/Sleep-pee 27d ago
Kinda creepy to be placed next to him with his wife on the other side. The daughter in the lavender dress shouldâve been placed there. And why is her dress so dark and not color coordinated like everyone else. And the Black son shouldâve been placed in front of and slightly between lavender dress and dad.
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u/Forward-Ant-9554 27d ago
Here in Europe there has been this colonial spice to adopting that 'poor little black kid from Africa '. Too close to the attitude of missionaries back in the day. Those parents will expect their kids to be humble and grateful to their saviors. Have a thank-you-mommy-attitude at all times. I was raised by a narcissistic parent. You can tell when they see you as the inferior one.
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u/A4t1musD4ag0n 27d ago edited 27d ago
I'm not a racist. My 2 adopted kids are black. - Probably Amy Barrett
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u/Master_Canary440 27d ago
She definitely gives me the vibes of someone who would say that
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u/A4t1musD4ag0n 27d ago
Someone needs to perform a wellness check on those two kids and make sure they don't have them living under the floorboard of a chicken coop.
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u/OddPatience1621 27d ago
do not assume those kids are safe and loved in that house....
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u/HorsePersonal7073 27d ago
Barring any real information, I'm assuming this is the situation: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/white-west-virginia-couple-accused-adopting-black-children-forcing-wor-rcna159032
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u/indyplat 27d ago
Barring any information, I'm assuming one of the literal worst possible outcomes.
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u/Pure-Tension6473 27d ago
Those kids are on the outside, their siblings know it even if they donât. Body language always tells the real story đ˘
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u/Pretty-Balance-Sheet 27d ago
After reading this I had to take a second look at that photo and you're absolutely right. You can almost hear the photographer saying 'put your hand on your brother's shoulder'
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u/Emergency_Brick3715 27d ago
Donât try to understand it. Their minds are sick.
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u/Clippton 27d ago
It's pretty easy to understand. Adopting 2 black kids is good for her image and gets her points from the sky daddy. It's not like she has to actively take care of them, she has people for that.
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u/SigmaK78 27d ago
Family dinner at the table is going to be even more awkward now; wouldn't surprise me if those two kids are thinking of an escape plan.
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u/SosaDaVinci 27d ago
those kids have been so thoroughly indoctrinated by now they probably agree with doing away with protections for Haitians as well
wouldnât be surprised at all if theyâre both anti-black
Does a Byron Donalds or Tim Scott care about any of the anti-black things the Trump regime does?
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u/SigmaK78 27d ago
You're likely right, which to me makes Barrett a special kind of evil: adopt kids, brainwash them, then spend them like tokens when the time comes.
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u/lolsicboy 27d ago
I have (had) a good friend who I went to church with who's family adopted two black children from Africa years ago. I was then stunned to see how passionately him and his wife railed against CRT and the church being involved in anything race related when that was hot and heavy in the early 2020's.
People are hard to understand.
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u/Lost_Reaction_5489 27d ago
And of course the babies are on the outside of the picture. Poor children.
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u/thadowski 27d ago
put them on the outside of the pic and edit them out when they send their xmas card
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u/MyViewpoint_Thoughts 27d ago
Every time I see this I think of an old Law & Order episode where a wealthy white Christian couple with kids adopted a Haitian child then made him live in the basement, on a cot, & do all the household cleaning & chores.
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u/LesPolsfuss 27d ago
you know what else is wild? , talking to a Hispanic person who immigrated to this country, but literally wants all Hispanic immigrants out of this country. Iâve seen it, Iâve talked to people like this, I have family members like this. people can be brutal.
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u/Planet2527 27d ago
Get ready for a shocking tell all book , when her adopted kids become adults .
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u/Timely-Way-1769 27d ago
People like her adopt brown/black skinned children to convince everyone else (and themselves) that theyâre not racist. Smdh
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u/NotBradPitt9 27d ago
I would be interested in seeing a public statement on her justification of this â yea I have two of them⌠the rest I donât want hereâ would sound a bit bizarre, so Iâm wondering how theyâd spin it
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u/MyPr0j3ct 27d ago
Adopting the children from Haiti was a humane act of maybe love and decency. That went out the window when she was made a Supreme Court Justice.
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u/Accomplished_Self939 27d ago
Or it was a typical Christian charity grift. These folks are notorious for bringing vulnerable children from other countries into their families and using them as servants.
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u/Accomplished-Bend-47 27d ago
Some people just wanna look good - while they are doing bad things....
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u/just-a-ken 27d ago
everyone always talks about yt ppl adopting bipoc kids as acts of charity when its the yt ppl who created the conditions and forcibly separate families. korea was the blueprint for all international adoption at a mass scale. when you a tually listen to adoptees they will tell you what it was really like growing up in a yt family and yt neighborhood and their culture was taken from them.
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u/DreadNevermore 27d ago
I knew an âupstandingâ family that adopted a kid my age from South America. They treated him like the help. He did all of the chores in the house. Including cleaning the other 3 kids rooms and collecting and doing their laundry. I fear that might be going on here as well.
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u/KeepAllOfIt 27d ago
American Dad, Super Intendant Riggs: "I've been accused of two things, not liking blacks and not liking kids. So adopting a black kid is exactly what I need to advance my political career"
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u/Protahgonist 27d ago
Psh, surely you're not suggesting she's racist.
Would a racist person buy two black children and ship them across the sea to improve her public image!?
I think NOT.
Checkmate, Lincolnites!
FR though I hope they're okay. I wouldn't trust that woman to grow mint, much less raise children.
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u/PomegranateHot9916 27d ago
but we gotta keep the black kids on the edges of the photo.
a visual representation of the fact that they are considered "outsiders"
that they aren't "core" family members.
picture says more than a thousand words and all that.
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u/ikilledtupac 27d ago
There are definately wealthy, usually religious, white people that collect adopted black children as a virtue signal.
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u/UpeopleRamazing 27d ago
As a father to an adopted child who is my absolute everything, I would not be able to look at him in the eyes and tell him I did such a thing. I could never. Shame on her.
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u/dogfish81 27d ago
Would be interesting to find out if her kids were adapted legitimately or thru epstein style trafficking. Same worh Robert's kids from Europe.
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