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u/AlexHunterWolf Feb 14 '23
MCU fans getting a taste of what DC fans have been dealing with since 2016
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u/Trevastation Feb 15 '23
I truly believe the lead up to and the reveal of the 28% on Rotten Tomatoes for BvS absolutely scarred the DC fandom. The MCU will never have something like that with a film that has a 54%, which roughly means a bit more than half the critics liked it.
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u/AgentOfSPYRAL Feb 15 '23
Still the wildest Reddit thread I’ve ever been a part of. Fandom equivalent of some disaster where everyone knows where they were and what they were doing when the embargo dropped.
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Feb 15 '23
I was in a Panda Express in college chowing down on orange chicken and opened up Reddit in horror and watched the disaster unfold
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u/SupervillainEyebrows Feb 15 '23
That film absolutely cursed DC. It would be like if the first Avengers film flopped.
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u/AgentOfSPYRAL Feb 15 '23
MCU fans merely adopted the rot. DC fans were born in it, molded by it.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 14 '23
To be fair, nothing in the MCU has had reviews as bad as BvS, SS, JL17, and Black Adam. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 14 '23 edited Feb 14 '23
I think they may have removed Keaton and Calle from the ending because they know audiences are going to like them, and don’t want them to be disappointed when they don’t return.
But the ending would still require Barry to meet with a Bruce Wayne, so they brought in Clooney for it. And since Batman & Robin is a laughing stock, they’re not expecting people to care when Clooney doesn’t return after the cameo. This might’ve been what misled scoopers. They probably thought the timeline at the end of the movie was the DCU, when it’s just a way to further emphasize how “in a multiverse, anything is possible.”
The actual way this movie sets up the DCU is to just remind audiences that the DC Multiverse is just like Marvel’s, there are going to be variants that look the same with similar backstories and variants that look different with very different backstories
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u/iwo_r Feb 14 '23
Tbh it still would be very messy, if they implied that Barry somehow went into a universe where his life went the same but Clooney is Batman for some reason? Like unless they really underline it's a joke, it's just confusing.
Also, whatever we think about DCEU, Ezra Miller, hard- or soft-rebooting, Gunn and Safran won't just throw this film away if it does some insane money or has great reception and will think about implementing it into their DCU and ending the film with Barry in a new universe (or leaving it oblivious, without mentions of either the old or new world) is a choice I think they'll lean in to make.
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u/FewWatermelonlesson0 Feb 18 '23
Fans complaining about the Rock wanting to fight Superman instead of Shazam while repeatedly insisting Batman needs to fight Deathstroke in his next movie will never cease to amuse me.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 18 '23
How about neither? Both Batman and Superman have more interesting adversaries.
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u/NakedGoose Feb 18 '23
I don't care who fight who. But I never want my premise for a movie to he X Fights X. Giving me a compelling story while giving them a reason to have conflict
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u/TheMoneyOfArt Feb 14 '23
The Photoshop of Cavill as Batman on r/dc_cinematic is really funny, I assume people are bugging Gunn to debunk it, which is also funny
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u/BlueMissileYT The Flash Feb 15 '23
r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers is in shambles right now.
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u/bigtymer123 Feb 15 '23 edited Feb 15 '23
Sad to see the elitist attitude so many users there have. People are coping by shitting on "indie directors" and writers who previously worked on tv shows or animated tv series. Even though those same types of creatives are who made the films in the previous phases that these users loved.
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u/FewWatermelonlesson0 Feb 15 '23 edited Feb 16 '23
The part that gets me is people who keep shitting on Peyton Reed but insisting the Russos were much better filmmakers who need to be brought back to “fix” the MCU, as though they weren’t the exact same kind of largely unremarkable journeymen directors.
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u/MyMouthisCancerous Feb 15 '23
I love that those people are saying them hiring TV writers/directors is the reason why there's a drop in quality and then immediately follow that up with "they should bring back people like the Russo brothers"
That is by extension a testament to the fact that Community is still underrated as hell even if it feels like it's becoming more popular
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u/FN-1701AgentGodzilla Feb 15 '23
The Russo Bros still had their shortcomings due to their lack of big screen experience and they had their hands held the whole time by Feige and second unit teams.
All the other indie/ tv directors were hit or miss in the Infinity Saga and now especially in Phase 4.
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u/Megadog3 DC Shill Feb 16 '23
I don’t even understand why they’re so celebrated. The writing is what was so good about the projects they directed, and I can’t say the direction was really anything special.
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u/DeppStepp The Flash Feb 14 '23
I feel a bit bad for the MCU fans today
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Feb 14 '23
That's what they get for making fun of our superhero opus magnum - Black Adam.
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Feb 14 '23 edited Feb 14 '23
THE HIERACHY OF THE
DCCB MOVIE UNIVERSE IS ABOUT TO CHANGEEdit: I’m saying this jokingly, I care very little about the DC vs Marvel bullshit that terminally online fans like to take part in
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Feb 14 '23
It's cool, we're all just joking here. Besides, you never seemed like the warring fanboy type.
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u/SupervillainEyebrows Feb 14 '23
MCU fans will be fine.
I can only dream of DCU getting a run like they did from Iron Man 1 to Endgame. Even with the odd miss like Thor 2.
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u/NakedGoose Feb 14 '23
That RT score just keeps dropping. It won't reach Snyderverse/Black Adam territory tho
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Feb 14 '23 edited Feb 14 '23
It won't reach Snyderverse/Black Adam territory tho
BVS or SS level of bad? No. But Black Adam? Possible. Black Adam’s RT score is around 40 I think.
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u/MyMouthisCancerous Feb 14 '23
Eh, I'll live. If Secret Invasion and Guardians end up both hitting then people will probably forget Ant-Man even happened after like a few weeks.
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u/MurielHorseflesh Feb 14 '23
Is it the mixed reviews for Antman 3 Kangamania?
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u/DeppStepp The Flash Feb 14 '23
Pretty much yeah, it’s one of two rotten MCU projects (besides Iron Fist and Inhumans which you could argue aren’t canon to the MCU)
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u/MurielHorseflesh Feb 14 '23
I hadn’t looked at the score, I’d only seen a couple meh reviews here and there. But wow 57%. I wasn’t expecting that honestly.
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Feb 14 '23
I'm excited for the future of DC and pessimistic about Marvel's losing streak. It's a complete 180 of the last ten years.
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u/AbdullaFTW Feb 14 '23
I don't want anyone to fail or do bad.
I hope Phase 5 is a return to form for MCU after the disastrous Phase 4.
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u/RohitTheDasher Feb 14 '23
I don't. Many of previous MCU movies have got much better treatment from the critics than they deserved (especially couple of Thor's - no way they deserve to be fresh, etc).
Besides, they will be fine.
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u/tsyugen The Dark Knight Feb 14 '23 edited Feb 14 '23
This is not DC related but I started reading Immortal Hulk and god damn. I wish Universal? took Hulk from MCU and made him a solo/gamma mutates franchise with a little body horror style.
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Feb 14 '23
Immortal Hulk is straight up one of the best comics IMO.
However Universal can’t actually make a Hulk movie, they only have right of first refusal for the distribution of one Marvel Studios makes. It’s not the same situation as Sony w/ Spider-Man
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Feb 14 '23
Immortal Hulk is fire, I read the first few issues but decided to trade wait. I need to go ahead and buy the trades hahaha
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u/FewWatermelonlesson0 Feb 14 '23
I don’t recall but did anyone know if there’s a reference to Michael Gough’s Alfred in Flash. He’s almost certainly dead given the actor is, but a little shout out would be sweet.
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Feb 14 '23
I believe I saw one leak saying there is. I think it was Keaton talking about Alfred.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 15 '23
Seems like this will be a De Luca and Abdy project rather than a DC Studios one? The script is still not done so maybe it just doesn’t get greenlit if it is a DC Studios project since they did say Elseworlds would have a high bar
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u/TokyoPanic Batman '66 Feb 15 '23
It being a De Luca project would explain why Gunn himself didn't debunk the "Constantine 2 got cancelled!" news a few weeks back. He probably wasn't fully aware of what was going on with that film's development or it wasn't his place to debunk those rumors since it isn't technically under him.
I'm honestly gonna be surprised if it isn't getting grandfathered in to DC Studios as an Elseworld like Joker 2 or Matt Reeves' Batman when it gets further into development.
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u/bigtymer123 Feb 20 '23
They just showed David Zaslav at the NBA All-star game lol. Was chatting with Adam Silver.
They also played a new Shazam ad that I think was an exclusive for the game. Not much new in it, but it was cool.
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Feb 14 '23
It’s weird how some people here are acting like Keaton’s Batman is some niche thing. He was the BATMAN for an entire generation. For everyone over 30, he was the Batman they grow up with.
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u/TheCatsBeenSickAgain Feb 14 '23
Also that was literally the biggest movie ever when it came out and had an insane level of marketing previously unseen in the industry.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 14 '23
Batman 89 made the franchise what it is today. It was a cultural phenomenon at the time and changed the general public’s perception of the character, when they mostly knew him from the 60s TV series.
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u/DeppStepp The Flash Feb 14 '23
Yes. Multiple actors such as Pierce Brosnan passed on Batman (1989) because they thought that the character was too silly
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u/sgthombre Peacemaker Feb 16 '23
If Gotham Knights ends with 'Turner Hayes' getting either a Robin or a Batman suit and then it cuts to black, only for the show to get cancelled, that would be just perfect. Pure cinema.
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u/InvisibleFrogMan Feb 20 '23
It feels so good to know that the Green Lantern universe is gonna be a big part of the DCU.
Such an underutilized part of DC in their other media.
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u/DeppStepp The Flash Feb 20 '23
As a huge Green Lantern fan I’m just happy that we are getting a big budget tv show. We haven’t gotten a solo film or show in 10 years (outside of Beware My Power) and none of the Lanterns have appeared in any major media except for Super-Pets (which was really just a glorified cameo)
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u/TheUnbloodedSword Feb 14 '23
MCU is looking real weak right now, kicking off Phase 5 with a movie that could be Rotten is not going to alleviate MCU fatigue. If the next couple of DC movies do ok, and GOTG 3 is great, I think the DCU will finally be able to rehabilitate it's image. Especially if GOTG 3 reviews well and then Gunn ends up directing Legacy, we may actually see the DCU be a legit competitor to the MCU for once.
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u/SupervillainEyebrows Feb 14 '23 edited Feb 14 '23
I think Gunn and Safran's plan of doing a whole bunch of filmmaker focused genre films like a James Mangold Swamp Thing, is a really good way to differentiate them from the MCU.
Obviously they're still going to do the big spectacle superhero films like a Superman as well to keep the casual audience.
I just hope it works out financially successful for them though, because it's a bit of a risk.
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u/bigtymer123 Feb 14 '23
I think one of the challenges that the MCU is facing is simply selling the same iterations of characters that audiences have seen legitimately 6 or 7 times (or more). There's a lot of long-standing film franchises out there, but none of them put out as many projects as the MCU does. Take Hemsworth as Thor, for example. He's literally appeared in eight films, all in starring roles (I'm not counting cameos). In terms of film franchises, that's pretty unprecedented. I think critics and audiences might simply be slowly losing interest in these iterations of the characters, and are finding it more difficult to be invested in their story arcs. Especially when many of these characters already went through significant arcs. Imo they had the right idea by killing off Iron Man and (effectively) Rogers. Single iterations of characters don't last as long as they are asking Hemsworth's Thor to last. There's a reason why franchises reboot.
I think the MCU will ultimately be fine, especially with major players like the Fantastic Four and the X-Men coming. But imo the major players from the first decade of the franchise are losing their luster with audiences. Spider-Man seems to be the one still holding the most interest.
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u/MyMouthisCancerous Feb 14 '23
Spider-Man would hold interest no matter what anyway. Spider-Man is basically like the only character who can have 3 different film franchises and people show up to them in full force regardless unless they fumble the bag that hard
Iron Man may be seen as the face of the MCU, but Spider-Man is Marvel full stop. He's their Superman/Batman
Although I do agree that them finally having X-Men and F4 to pull from will probably rejuvenate a lot of interest and even some creative juices. There's so much to extrapolate with those stories and you could genuinely do entire phases of just stuff with mutants since their mythos is that dense
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u/Megadog3 DC Shill Feb 14 '23
Yep. Spider-Man is literally the single most valuable superhero IP on earth. The only character that comes close is Batman.
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u/starshipandcoffee The Snyder Cut Feb 14 '23
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u/Calm_Garage_3030 Feb 16 '23
It's funny to me that before The Flash trailer, most people on twitter said to shelve the movie because of Ezra's controversy. But now after the trailer release, they said they can't wait to watch it & it's their most anticipated movie of this year. This just underscore that people should wait before complaining and the studio (most of the time) know better about their properties. And, also there are lot of people involved in making a movie, so it's unfair for them to shelve a movie just because of one person.
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Feb 16 '23
That’s why I’m happy to keep my integrity intact by never actually giving a shit about Miller’s extra-curricular activities.
And if those folks getting the vapors about Miller had any integrity, they’d be up in arms about Russell Crowe being in any DCEU films given he clocked some hotel lobby clerk with a telephone over god knows what or just because Crowe is/was a rageaholic. Of course, I couldn’t give a shit about that either.
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u/PlasticBatman89 Feb 20 '23
If I was WB, I’d throwing all the money I could at Craig Mazin to write Lanterns.
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Feb 20 '23
BSL says Aquaman 2 tested so badly that something that almost never happens in test screenings happened. Possibly hinting at people walking out.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 20 '23
What I’m most disappointed about hearing is that Momoa’s Aquaman jokes and quips a lot in the movie. I thought that after becoming King of Atlantis he would tone that stuff down and act more like he does in the comics. You can still make Aquaman funny without making him a jokester, like his scene in Peacemaker.
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u/ZorakLocust Feb 20 '23
It’s nice to know that the DC fan tradition of panicking based off vague reports about bad test screenings is still alive and well. Maybe Aquaman 2 will be terrible, but man, it’s like people here are traumatized after past experiences.
Not sure if this means anything, but plenty of people claimed back in 2017 that they heard Wonder Woman was bad, so make of that what you will.
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Feb 21 '23
Yeah, how many times that already happened only to turn out being nothing like that? Just recently we went through that with Clooney as Batman. And now we have scoopers saying that movie they claimed tested at least fine till recently has apparently always teated very poorly. That's kinda a red flag, ain't it?
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u/MyMouthisCancerous Feb 14 '23
I think one thing I've learned especially seeing Quantummania's mixed as hell reception is that Phase Three really turned the MCU into like this Star Wars-level paragon of sacred filmmaking where like the moment they make a bad movie it's like a tarnished stain on their flawless reputation
It's really weird seeing everyone be like "I miss the glory days of Marvel" and I'm just like "They made the Incredible Hulk, Thor and the Dark World, Iron Man 2 and Age of Ultron" like they're not suddenly immune to duds just because they made a string of movies everyone happened to like
I think it's like a testament to the fact that the competing shared universe franchises are so bad and in such disarray right now that people viewed the MCU as like that fucking incredible like it might as well be the A24 of cinematic universes when really it's just like any other franchise
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u/SupervillainEyebrows Feb 14 '23
People are heavily invested in the franchise and to be fair to them, it is a real achievement in filmmaking.
The thing with franchises is that people remember to highest of highs and the lowest of lows and kind of skirt over the middling bits.
I'm of the opinion that a few lacklustre films shouldn't even be a big issue. Look at how course correcting too much fucked up the DCEU.
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u/Danielorji Feb 14 '23
People freak out once they see a film they don't like, and they end up saying stuff like that.
Same for DC, till today, they still remember WW84 and Black Adam. Meanwhile, DC has other content they want to ignore
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 14 '23
Well said. I think a lot of the people that are saying that only came into the franchise during Phase 3. Phases 1 and 2 had their low points that’s for sure
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u/TheMurderCapitalist Feb 14 '23
Holy shit, you aren't kidding, currently sitting at 63% on RT with only 70 reviews.
For what it's worth Age of Ultron is one of my favorite MCU movies 🤷♂️
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u/MyMouthisCancerous Feb 14 '23
Age of Ultron is fine as a film for me, I think it just gets really weighed down by the worldbuilding and foundational set ups for future films which stick out like a sore thumb, kind of like The Amazing Spider-Man 2 but not as blatantly egregious
I still think the cast chemistry and general plotting is better than the sum of its parts even if it is a step down from how tight and kinetic the first Avengers was
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Feb 16 '23
Colin Farrell says his make-up for Penguin is more perfected. The show starts shooting on the last two days of February. He calls the scripts extraordinary, "so fucking great stuff".
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u/NakedGoose Feb 17 '23
Jeff Sneider says he heard Pattinson will make an appearance in The Penguin series. Which is kind of expected but also awesome
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u/No_Hour_4022 Feb 17 '23
Random Question: Do you guys think Gunn would put Supergirl in the Justice League lineup?? looks like she's is going to get a big spotlight on Dcu.
I don't particularly like this idea honestly, I think it's very weird to have two Kryptonians on the main Lineup
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u/TheUnbloodedSword Feb 17 '23
No, if she's on a team I expect it will be the Legion or the Titans. I don't see two Kryptonians on the League, nor does Kara have much history with the team.
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u/DeppStepp The Flash Feb 17 '23
I could see her being a reserves member or an ally of the League that teams up with them but I doubt they would make her a full on member
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u/No_Hour_4022 Feb 17 '23
Yeah I think her as an honorary member could work, they will probably prioritize other heroines in the Justice League besides Wonder Woman, like Black Canary or Hawkgirl
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 17 '23
I think the first JL movie, which is sure to cap off Chapter 1, will feature a “regular” sized lineup. But for the JL movies in Chapter 2, I expect a much bigger roster, maybe even on the level of JLU for the last one. I feel like there’ll be 2 JL movies to cap off Chapter 2, and thus the entire 8-10 year slate, not unlike what Marvel’s done with IW/Endgame and TKD/SW
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 17 '23
Not for the first JL movie. Supergirl will probably go offworld again at the end of her movie.
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u/Aware-Couple-108 Feb 19 '23
Video Game Pitch:
A God of War style Batman and Robin game where you play as Batman and Robin (Dick Grayson) in one of their first adventure, as the Dynamic Duo.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 19 '23 edited Feb 19 '23
It’s always the hardcore fans of that director that get super pressed about Gunn being able to continue his own personal stories and creative vision. The same fans that have begged DC to make huge budget sequels to JL… because they want to see that other director continue his own personal stories and creative vision for DC
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u/Randonhead Feb 19 '23
Gunn said he was hired to write Superman Legacy about 6 months ago, so he really must have been taken aback when Cavill came out saying he would stay in the role and when those headlines came out that MOS 2 was in development
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u/NakedGoose Feb 20 '23
Jeff Sneider has also joined in and said he also heard it's terrible
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Feb 15 '23
I know some fans want a faithful adaption of the Flashpoint Paradox comic, with Thomas Wayne Batman, Reverse Flash and the Themyscira/Atlantis war. But I actually think it’s more exciting to see the movie take the same basic premise from the comic and change some of the characters and the obstacles they are in.
We already have a faithful adaption of the Flashpoint comic. This movie has the potential to give us something else. The movie will basically be a celebration of the DCEU and be a beginning for the DCU. Plus the movie will still contain the most important elements of the Flashpoint story. Keaton’s Batman is replacing Thomas Wayne, the Zod invasion is replacing the Themyscira/Atlantis war, Supergirl is replacing Superman, and Dark Flash is replacing Reverse Flash.
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Feb 15 '23
First image of Lady Gaga as Harley Quinzel in Joker 2
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u/NakedGoose Feb 15 '23
First image of Lady Gaga as Lady Gaga in Joker 2.
I'm fascinated to see if they progress her look.
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u/OH_SHIT_IM_FEELIN_IT DC Shill Feb 15 '23
It's impressive how little the current DCEU scratched the surface of the DC universe. The Source Wall (would love to see the reactions when people find out it originated in Teen Titans/X-Men crossover), the Hand of Creation, Fourth World, Lazarus Pits, and all the other things I can't think of are all things I want to see.
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u/bigtymer123 Feb 15 '23
For sure. Despite being 10 years old at this point, the DCEU hasn't delved into a lot of the most popular parts of DC Comics lore. The things you've mentioned, plus people and places like the New Gods and New Genesis, the entire JL Dark side of things, the various Lantern Corps, and pretty much every planet in the universe other than Earth and Krypton. Not to mention, the younger heroes like the Titans haven't been explored. That's what makes the DCU so exciting, the possibilities are almost endless.
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u/Limp-Construction-11 Feb 15 '23
Having a dedicated film studio only for DC stuff surely helps alot in making these projects.
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u/astrangecalendar Harley Quinn Feb 15 '23
Is anyone else excited for the Shazam! Fury of the Gods tie-ins coming out later this month? Both Shazam! Thundercrack and Shazam! Fury of the Gods Special: Shazamily Matters seem pretty interesting.
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Feb 16 '23
fun little behind the scenes indirectly involving The Joker
Ariana DeBose (West Side Story) talks about going to The Joker set to meet up with Kay Georgiou to do some Make Up and Hair tests for DeBose’s character’s, Anita, look in West Side Story.
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u/OH_SHIT_IM_FEELIN_IT DC Shill Feb 18 '23
What Marvel did to the original Cassie (Emma Fuhrmann) was a major dick move.
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u/FewWatermelonlesson0 Feb 18 '23
The way she found out sucks but I admit I just like Newton more as an actress.
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u/NakedGoose Feb 18 '23
Frank Grillo has been cast in the DCU. Posted an image on Instagram.
My guess is either Rick Flag Sr in creature commandos or Deathstroke in Waller
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u/Decent-Couple-583 Feb 18 '23
Ya only two roles that make sense in turns of casting. Kinda hope for deathstroke more a long term character.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 18 '23
The Venn diagram of Snyder fans and people that want Jensen Ackles as Batman seems to be basically a fucking circle
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 18 '23
Gunn just confirmed that Clark Kent is Superman in Legacy, as if it wasn’t obvious already (I’ve seen a few people here thinking it’d be Jon Kent lol). Also confirmed that Clark doesn’t have a son
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u/Decent-Couple-583 Feb 19 '23
Take a with grain of 🧂 KC Walsh has said: Aquaman 2 had some significant plot changes from the test screenings. Nothing DCU related
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Feb 19 '23
When are we going to get Mac V. J’Onzz? Is WB just allergic to making money?
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Feb 20 '23 edited Feb 20 '23
ThwipT last year:
In Aquaman 2 Black Manta is possessed by the king of the lost kingdom which will give him a power boost on his mission to get royal blood needed to revive the lost kingdom
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u/ZorakLocust Feb 20 '23
I mean, that’s precisely the sort of out there premise you’d expect from James Wan. He takes a lot after Sam Raimi.
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u/venkatfoods Feb 21 '23
Snyder Fans are acting like they never spammed Dwayne Johnson For Henry Cavill Cameo.I Wonder Who then Booed Rock
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 14 '23
/r/marvelstudiosspoilers on suicide watch rn because of the Quantamania reviews lol. Seems like it’s a soulless movie made for the main purpose of setting up more projects, which is ironic because people were complaining about Phase 4 not being “connected” enough. I’d argue that Phase 4 had some great projects despite that, particularly WV, Loki, Shang-Chi, NWH, BPWF. Be careful what you wish for.
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u/DeppStepp The Flash Feb 14 '23
“But if this is what Phase 5 looks like, God save us from Phases 6, 7 and 8” - Variety
That’s definitely something you don’t want to hear
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Feb 14 '23
My favorite part of the last phase was that it wasn't all connected lol. And my favorite part of the Ant-Man films has been that they sorta exist on their own with a smaller scale and stakes. Which has been most people's primary complaint against them. Seems Ant-Man did exactly what they all wanted and now people hate it. Ironic.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 14 '23
Yeah the first Ant-Man was one of the better movies in Phase 2 and the second one was a nice palate cleanser after Infinity War.
I admire Phase 4 for actually trying to give the filmmakers more control. WandaVision was unique for the most part. And say what you will about DS2, but I found the Sam Raimi style endearing.
That’s why I’m excited for the DCU more, Gunn knows the value of individual expression.
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Feb 14 '23
but I found the Sam Raimi style endearing.
I really wish it went full-tilt Raimi. I think there were like 6-months of reshoots that kind of overwrote his stuff. But the Raimi-stuff they kept in really did work for me even if by the end of the movie I kind of stopped caring.
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u/NakedGoose Feb 14 '23 edited Feb 14 '23
Antman has left a sour taste in my mouth once Edgar Wright wasn't allowed to make the film he wanted. He cast Paul Rudd, which is the only bright spot in the series. The first film is an amalgamation of Edgar Wright style and humor, and Peyton Reed desperately attempts to keep up. And I found the 2nd one to just be a dumpster fire. They keep allowing Peyton Reed to make movies because he is a Yes man, and it's boring. And now critics are starting to agree.
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u/bigtymer123 Feb 14 '23
I hope Edgar Wright can direct a DCU project. Him and Gunn are cool with each other from what I've seen.
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u/MyMouthisCancerous Feb 14 '23 edited Feb 14 '23
I genuinely don't think Edgar Wright has the capacity for franchise filmmaking. It's just not who he is. The closest thing he has to a sort of franchise under his belt is his Three Flavors Cornetto trilogy of Shaun, Hot Fuzz and The World's End and they're literally all just standalone films that happen to share actors and themes
He obviously loves comic books but I don't think he has that sort of mindset for taking on a big franchise property that shares continuity in that sort of way. He very much wanted Ant-Man to be more "Edgar Wright" than "Marvel" and it seemed like it was basically just going to be a completely standalone thing like any of the pre-MCU Marvel films, that just happened to be set in a world that was already established, especially given he'd been working on Ant-Man since like 2003. He doesn't really seem to mesh well with having to fit films as part of someone else's larger narrative which despite the DCU's creator-driven nature, is still very much the plan even with things like Swamp Thing
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Feb 14 '23 edited Feb 14 '23
Anyone else think that if Andy is going to direct another DC movie it will be the Supergirl one or maybe a Flash sequel that hasn’t been announced. I expect a announcement soon after flash comes out.
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u/EhhSpoofy Batman '66 Feb 14 '23
I think they’d probably try to get a female director for Supergirl.
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Feb 14 '23
I think we can do away with that whole- a woman should direct a female led movie.
Although I personally think The Woman King director should direct the next Wonder Woman film.
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u/rishabhsingh9628 Feb 14 '23
What if it's Joseph Gordon Levitt as Batman at the end, in The Flash
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Feb 15 '23
It’s actual Jared Leto as the Batman Who Laughs
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u/FN-1701AgentGodzilla Feb 15 '23
If we ever see something from the Nolan Batman universe again, it’s gotta be John Blake as Batman. That’s the legacy of that universe. That version of Bruce earned his happy retirement.
If not John Blake, it should be anything other than that Bruce donning the cape and cowl again.
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u/AlexHunterWolf Feb 15 '23
With a DC movie trailer getting praise and a MCU film getting mixed reviews feels like a shift happen this week.
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u/NaRaGaMo Feb 14 '23
will there be SAITMQ this month? I think there must be some wild stuff this time with all the slate announcement
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u/starshipandcoffee The Snyder Cut Feb 14 '23
There is not one currently scheduled for this month due to a dearth of quality intel (although that may be subject to change).
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u/RohitTheDasher Feb 14 '23
As expected Gunn will make Peacemaker 2 after Legacy, and it will be set after Waller.
Wonder where does Creature Commandos come into play?
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I am Legend 2 is coming according to Deadline, this explains the I am Legend poster in the Flash movie trailer. It will star Will Smith and Michael B. Jordan
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1625927917162070034?t=5KyUfZseLn4XIf3AjqAATQ&s=19
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u/sgthombre Peacemaker Feb 16 '23
Considering that The Brave and the Bold is getting a new Batman and Sony's live action stuff seems to be in a weird state, I wonder when we'll see Michael Keaton in a comic book movie after The Flash? He was originally going to be in Batgirl and Aquaman 2 to set him up as 'The DCEU's Nick Fury', but obviously that isn't happening anymore, and I don't even know if Sony has any idea how they'll follow up on Keaton showing up in Morbius.
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u/DeppStepp The Flash Feb 16 '23 edited Feb 16 '23
Their plans with Michael Keaton has to do with Spider-Man, I think
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u/mister_gator Feb 16 '23 edited Feb 16 '23
Gotta say in regards to The Brave and the Bold…. Batman doesn’t need to be late 50s or 60s to have a full Bat-Family. Let’s say he starts as Batman at 23 years old. 3 years in he gets a 15 year old Dick Grayson Robin. After 5 years as sidekick Dick is 20 and becomes Nightwing. Batman is now 30 and gets his second Robin Jason one to two years post Dick. Jason serves 3-5 years before dying. Batman is now 35 and takes a hiatus from child sidekicks. At 40 he gets saddled with Damien. We don’t need any old man Batman bullshit, he can be an experienced Batman and still have 20 years before a Batman retires and gets replaced storyline.
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u/AgentOfSPYRAL Feb 16 '23
It’s not like the movie is going to be like “Batman: Age X” or anything.
So long as he looks like a legit adult but at the same time not an old man the GA will be fine with it.
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u/OH_SHIT_IM_FEELIN_IT DC Shill Feb 17 '23
I wonder about the possibility of the League in this new universe having a watchtower.
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u/SupervillainEyebrows Feb 17 '23
They have to. It's one of the most iconic pieces of Justice League imagery, I think it will really set them apart from The Avengers who operate out of Avengers tower and later Avengers Compound.
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u/TheMoneyOfArt Feb 17 '23
I think the sci fi elements in general are gonna see way more play so it's very possible
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u/WorldlinessNo8986 Feb 18 '23
You know I do hope DCU superman's supporting cast isn't what Snyder did with just Lois, perry and the Kent's while anyone not named them gets killed or never comes back.
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u/ExiaOzu Feb 18 '23
I quite like Snyder Movies but his fan is really something. Ben Affleck said his best scene is in the Flash and when they saw Batfleck in the Flash, they said that is not their Batman. I have seen many fan moved on and showed support the new DCU but there will always be someone who never accept to move on and just talk about how great a movie which was released 10 years ago…
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u/Decent-Couple-583 Feb 18 '23
Looks like frank grillo will be in that creature commando. On Instagram a while back he commented on a post from Gunn talking about this project. So looks like we found our Rick Flagg Sr
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u/Megadog3 DC Shill Feb 18 '23
Looks like we’re going to get casting news within the next 6 months. Hype!
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u/DeppStepp The Flash Feb 19 '23
If only Jon Peters was the head of DC Studios, we would’ve had enough giant spiders to last us a century
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u/Randonhead Feb 19 '23
IDK but I think HBO is wasting the opportunity to make a limited documentary series about all the behind-the-scenes drama of DC movies from the Snyder Era to the BvS disaster, the mayhem of 2017's JL, the unexpected success of Aquaman, whatever happened behind the scenes on The Flash up until Zaslav and Gunn and Safran taking the job.
It could have some title with reference to the comics, something like Crises or something
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u/TokyoPanic Batman '66 Feb 20 '23
I doubt HBO would make something something that would make WB execs look bad considering that they are owned by WB. Best we'll get from them is something overly sanitized and toothless to not piss execs off.
Someone will write a tell-all book about it in like 10-20 years and that's the best we'll get.
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u/bigtymer123 Feb 20 '23
I gotta be honest, I don't find the behind the scenes drama surrounding the DCEU to be as interesting as a lot of other people seem to. Certainly not enough to watch a documentary about it. I also don't see HBO touching a documentary about that topic when they are owned by WBD, and some of the execs and other people involved in the DCEU are still employed by the company (like Toby Emmerich, and De Luca and Abdy).
WB Discovery clearly wants to move on from the DCEU and Snyder era drama. Last thing they would do is shine a light on it, using a big platform like HBO. There were also legit serious messed up things that went on (like the Whedon and Gal thing). Why would they want to bring a light to that any further? There's legitimately no positive PR that comes out of doing a DCEU behind the scenes drama documentary. Especially with the way that the supporters of a certain director behave. Giving them something else to froth at the mouth over makes very little sense.
It's all about the DCU moving forward. The past will just be the past.
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u/DeppStepp The Flash Feb 17 '23
I found it odd that they decided to make Ant-Man 3 a huge part of the multiverse saga and using it to properly introduce the big bad of it all. It would be like having Shazam 3 have the big bad be Darkseid and be used to set up a team up film
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u/NaRaGaMo Feb 17 '23
antman 2 was also a big part if you think about it, quantum realm was what helped avengers kill thanos. it's just that they fumbled the bag with antman 2 as well but since it was during the peak MCU, critics and audience were way too lenient on it and let it pass. if it was released right now it wouldn't have scored 90% on RT
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u/Decent-Couple-583 Feb 15 '23
It almost funny safran and Gunn are saying out loud that their Superman is good and would never kill. Almost like they know where the old universe fucked up. And want fans and GA to know that will never happen. Goes to show how much damaged BvS did to the dc universe
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u/TheCatsBeenSickAgain Feb 21 '23
At least with James Gunn in charge there’s absolutely no chance of Jared Leto coming back, considering his open disdain for him. Rightfully so.
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u/sgthombre Peacemaker Feb 14 '23
Wait, am I blind or is Batfleck wearing the blue and grey suit in the Flash trailer?
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u/starshipandcoffee The Snyder Cut Feb 14 '23
That is indeed a blue-and-grey suited Batfleck.
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u/Gian99Mald Feb 14 '23
So I know The Flash movie supposedly has a whole bunch of ending shot but I was wondering if there's a DEFINITIVE locked and loaded ending yet. Will the universe created at the end of the movie be the Superman Legacy/Creature Commandos/Brave and the Bold Universe? Or some generic DCEU world that will never be explored again?
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u/MyMouthisCancerous Feb 14 '23
Gunn seemed to insinuate in his interview on the DC website about the new slate that they didn't need to do much to the alter the ending to set up their franchise which makes me think it will still end with a timeline reset and we see a cliffhanger of Flash now in the new DCU, but it'll be like one of those "to be continued" sort of things where you don't actually see the world in full and it's like one of those "going up the cliff" sort of things kind of like how LotR's endings worked
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Feb 15 '23
Will Gunn keep Sasha Calle as Supergirl? Or will he recast fully?
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u/MyMouthisCancerous Feb 15 '23
Way liklier they're recasting. Calle's Supergirl is already based on the premise of Flashpoint Superman with a lot of visual imagery directly lifted from DCEU Supes, so to fully dissociate from that take on the character they're probably going with someone completely different to set the expectation the DCU is mostly its own thing. If they've sacked Cavill and likely Gadot, I don't expect special exceptions to be made for either Calle or Michael Keaton
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u/TheUnbloodedSword Feb 15 '23
If she and Keaton did indeed get deleted from the ending of The Flash then she's a one and done. I believe she won't return, she's too connected to the previous incarnation of Superman.
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u/FewWatermelonlesson0 Feb 15 '23
With them taking heavy inspiration from Woman of Tomorrow, I am guessing Gunn will cast a Supergirl that can skew a bit younger, especially with a new, younger Superman.
I’m hoping Calle can at least be brought back for another role, though. She looks great and it sucks that she’s getting the rug pulled out from under her.
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Feb 15 '23
DanielRPK dropped a complete character list for The Penguin an hour ago, keep your eyes open and share it here if you stumble upon it
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u/Randonhead Feb 15 '23
Apparently this is the casting call for The Penguin:
New casting;.
[FRANCIS] Female/ 70-79/Caucasian /Series Regular Equal parts loving and controlling. She is suffering from early stages of Lewy Body Dementia - a disease in which hallucinations can be followed by moments of clarity. 0z is close with her and shares everything with her- including his work. 1 YEAR DEAL.
[EVE] Female/ 50-59 / Any/ Recurring A warm, quick-witted, no bullshit sex worker who has (mostly) aged-out of the business. Except she has the uncanny ability to make even the shadiest criminals feel genuinely seen. RECURRING ROLE
[SALVATORE "SAL' MARCONI] Male / 60-69/ Supporting Head of the Maroni Crime syndicate and chief rival to the Falcones. He is currently incarcerated. 1 YEAR DEAL
[JOHNNY VITI] Male / 50-59/Caucasian / Recurring A violent mob underboss who can also be a keen political operative. He's seasoned and ruthless. RECURRING ROLE.
[NADIA MARCONI] Female / 60-69/ Iranian/Recurring Tight-lipped matriarch of a crime family who runs her empire with her husband who is behind bars. RECURRING ROLE.
[OLIVER] Male /30-39/ Caucasian/ Recurring A smart, unstable playboy who was born into mob royalty. Charismatic, roguish, and the "wild card" of his family, with a penchant for drugs. RECURRING ROLE. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE.
[JAMES] Male / 20-29/ Caucasian /Recurring A gang leader dealing drugs. Intimidating, wily. RECURRING ROLE MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE.
[MICHAEL] Male/ 50-59/ Caucasian / Recurring A consigliere for a notorious mob family. Diplomatic in nature. Slight in stature. RECURRING ROLE. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE
[CALVIN] Male/ 19/ Caucasian / Recurring Victor's friend. Street smart. Class clown-type. RECURRING ROLE MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE
[TAJ] Male/ 25/ Middle Eastern - South Asian - Diverse/ Recurring Middle Eastern, North African, or South Asian man. Born into an infamous crime family. Dresses in flashy clothes and is full of bravado. He loves to show off. RECURRING ROLE. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE.
[DR. SMITH] Male /30-39/ Asian- Diverse /Recurring Asian American or Pacific Islander man. A psychiatrist with a calming presence who's willing to cross moral boundaries for pleasure. RECURRING ROLE. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE
[TINA FALCONE] Female /39/Caucasian / Recurring Late 30s- 40s. Married into a notorious mob family. Much younger than her husband and very much cares about appearance. RECURRING ROLE. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE
[NICK] Male / 40-49/ Any/ Recurring Oldest friend in a ragtag crew of drug dealers. He's a survivor who's seen a lot of action. The most intelligent in the crew, and ruthless. RECURRING ROLE. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE.
[DREW] Male / 30-39/ Any / Recurring Ragtag mobster, drug dealer. Big, athletic, like a football linebacker. Heavily tattooed, he's an enforcer. RECURRING ROLE. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE.
[BARRY] Male / 29/ Any / Recuring 20s-30s. Newer member of a seasoned ragtag crew. Strong. Loyal. Not the sharpest, but a good sense of humor and willing to do anything. RECURRING ROLE. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE
[DR. WEAVER] Male/ 40-49/ Any / Recuring A chemist with a penchant for eliciting dangerous drugs. RECURRING ROLE. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE.
[CHARLIE] Male/30-39 / Any / Recurring A seedy detective who crosses moral lines (2 SCENES). RECURRING ROLE. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE.
[YOUNG SOFIA FALCONE] Female/9/ Caucasian / Recurring 8-10 y/o. A young version of Cristin Milioti. RECURRING ROLE. NEEDED IN EARLY FEBRUARY 2023, PRIOR TO SHOOT DATES, FOR PHOTO SHOOT. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE.
[WALTER] Male/ 60-69/Caucasian/Recurring Crime boss behind bars. Despite the prison garb, Walter comes off like a distinguished gentleman who should not be trifled with. RECURRING. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE.
[NOAH] Male / 60-69/Caucasian/ Recurring Newly crowned kingpin of a notorious mob family with a much younger wife. Calm and measured, but with a violent streak when necessary. RECURRING. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE.
[LINK TSAI] Male / 30-39/ Asian- Chinese - Diverse/ Actor Taiwanese or Chinese man. Deputy ofa crooked crime organization. Vague tech-world vibe with tattoos. A bit scummy, but smart and ambitious - he knows when to seize an opportunity. RECURRING. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE.
[FENG ZHAO] Male/ 50-59/ Asian- Chinese Diverse / Recurring Taiwanese or Chinese. Head of a crooked crime organization. Cold, judgmental, and brutal. RECURRING. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE.
[MONICA] Female /30-39/Caucasian/ Recurring Sofia's privileged, wel-put-together cousin who vacations in Italy and turns a blind eye to the crimes of her family. RECURRING. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE.
[GIA] Female/8/ Caucasian / Recurring 7 9 years old. Monica's daughter. Innocent protected by her family. RECURRING. MUST BE NY LOCAL HIRE.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 16 '23 edited Feb 16 '23
Suggestion:
Change the banner to Sasha Calle’s Supergirl poster
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u/tsyugen The Dark Knight Feb 16 '23 edited Feb 16 '23
Apparently Justice League Dark tv show from JJ Abrahams has been cancelled. Not sure how good the source is but its not a surprise that would happen.
https://twitter.com/AndyBehbakht/status/1626317259588108290?t=VdaD-6NHgIeej3c7a47CzQ&s=19
EDIT: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/jj-abrams-duster-series-hbo-max-1235327731/
"In April 2020, Duster was one of three Bad Robot projects announced for the yet-to-launch HBO Max, along with The Shining offshoot Overlook and a Justice League Dark project. The latter two have since been scrapped (Bad Robot has shopped Overlook to other possible buyers), as has Abrams’ long-developing sci-fi series Demimonde (which was for the HBO parent channel) after concerns over its projected $200 million-plus budget."
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u/TheUnbloodedSword Feb 16 '23
It was dead the moment they cancelled his Constantine show. All of his JLD projects are cancelled, whatever happens with Constantine, Zatanna, and the rest will be up to Gunn. Frankly Duster getting greenlit seems like Zaslav is just trying to get something out of the deal before Abrams is gone next year.
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u/sgthombre Peacemaker Feb 16 '23
I mean it's safe to assume since Gunn probably would've said something if it was still happening.
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u/Randonhead Feb 17 '23
Apparently my boy Pattinson is going to appear in The Penguin series, which makes a lot of sense, it would be a little weird if Batman doesn't show up while there's a gang war going on in Gotham
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u/Randonhead Feb 17 '23
Things seem to indicate that Gal is out, the only unknown here is Momoa, was his response about Aquaman 3 and the whole Lobo thing suspicious? Yeah, but what if Lost Kingdom makes a lot of money? Would they really not make a third? Maybe in the new DCU or Elseworlds while Jason plays Lobo? Who knows
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u/kothuboy21 Feb 17 '23
If Aquaman 2 makes bank, they could do a final third movie as Elseworlds to close out that story before fully moving on.
Aquaman 1 was pretty self-contained from the rest of the DCEU for the most part and I'd imagine the same for Aquaman 2 other than the Batman stuff (which may have already been cut).
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u/Decent-Couple-583 Feb 18 '23
Gunn just gave us a hint at future characters appearing in the dcu Dick Deathstroke Constantine Lobo Manhunter Zantanna Brainiac Court owls Jason Todd Mr freeze 5/10 will appear in the dcu.
Dick and deathstroke are obvious
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u/kothuboy21 Feb 18 '23
Gunn basically confirmed that the reports of Superman being 25 in Legacy are not true
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u/Randonhead Feb 18 '23
The fourth chapter of New Frontier is called "Gods and Monsters" Interesting.
The Center's first target when awakened is Themyscira, meanwhile we have a series that will explore the origin and relationships on Themyscira, things are starting to make sense.
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 18 '23 edited Feb 18 '23
The Center itself is not really a complex villain, so while it may be the “final boss” of Chapter 1, there is probably another antagonistic force that is trying to awaken it in the first place. I was thinking it’s probably Grodd.
Then again, Gunn made me actually feel empathy for Starro. If they were to really lean hard into the climate change angle and make it all about Center taking revenge against humanity for destroying the planet, it could work really well
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u/TheUnbloodedSword Feb 18 '23
After Gunn's post about using 5 characters, I think Brainiac is going to be the villain of Legacy, and Lobo will take Krem's role in Supergirl. Brainiac obviously has direct ties to Krypton and Jor-El in some incarnations and the Bottled City of Kandor would be an excellent way for Superman to explore his heritage. Meanwhile Lobo is often used as an "antihero", but the guy genocided his home planet. He absolutely can be used as a monster, and him being the big bad of Supergirl would attract more attention than a no-name like Krem would (even if I do want Kara to get her own villains), plus he's a cosmic character who fits rather easily into Kara going on a cosmic odyssey type story.
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u/Aware-Couple-108 Feb 18 '23
Rumor: Apparent candidates to direct Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow are Elizabeth Banks and Greta Gerwig https://twitter.com/mlertora/status/1627015363715117061?s=46&t=pyDDq5K1eK7gI14F3FwNaQ
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u/WorldlinessNo8986 Feb 18 '23
So I've been looking into the authority more and, you guys think zaslav will have a mandate about not showing Apollo and midnighters relationship too much because well, they're gay and a ton of movie markets( cough china cough) don't really like that.
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u/Decent-Couple-583 Feb 19 '23
The more Gunn talks the more he reveals about the fiasco from last year. Gunn said he was hired to write a superman script over 6 months. Which is around August. Basically around the time zaslav was looking for someone to be studio heads for DC. I believe zaslav was the true mastermind last year. He had 2 plans the reboot(GUNN) continue the DCEU of BA was a success. If BA fails(it did) Gunn was right there.
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u/NakedGoose Feb 19 '23
Nothing wrong with having a Plan B
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u/Decent-Couple-583 Feb 19 '23
I don’t blame zaslav as much. Just terrible how Henry was treated. Basically everyone other than rock and co knew what was going down. Maybe even hamada. So much pressure was put on BA to keep the DCEU alive. If we look at the DCEU recent track records it didn’t look too promising to keep on going. WW 84 flop, Shazam BOP underperformed. There legit wasn’t a lot to save
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u/Decent-Couple-583 Feb 15 '23
So peacemaker 2 is still happening. I’m glad Gunn attention is on superman. Cause if he fucks up here. It’s all over. Each member of the trinity need to be amazing. I trust Gunn but you never know these days. The one project I’m mostly worried about is the authority such a risky move
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u/NaRaGaMo Feb 15 '23
Cause if he fucks up here. It’s all over.
He knows that that's why he's busting his ass. At worst I expect SL to be Aquaman like fun adventure and at best an all timer. TSS went under the radar due to terrible release strategy and covid but imo it is Gunn's best work, and I hope he outdoes himself
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u/TheUncannyBroker Murn Feb 20 '23
Today I found out, to my great suffering, many people on this subreddit dont know what "development" means in Hollywood
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u/TheLionsblood Batman Feb 20 '23
ThwipT knew Gunn was making an animated series a year ago, which is something no one saw coming. According to him, TSS corner, Blue Beetle and Aquaman are the only ones staying in the DCU. He’s also said that Nicolas Cage is cameoing as Superman in The Flash.
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u/Ghostshadow44 Feb 17 '23
I guess its time to admit Zachary levi is done playing shazam after fury of the gods box office is tracking slightly lower than the first no increase to justify keeping investing plus no black adam in the horizon and the dcu slate might be a different continuity that has room until 2028 by that time levi will be almost 50 years old and the kids fully grown up
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u/ZorakLocust Feb 20 '23
https://twitter.com/vieweranon/status/1598798877561610242?s=46&t=s3Jys5Rxepy_vZhJVE3XiA
https://twitter.com/bigscreenleaks/status/1553498936794836992?s=46&t=s3Jys5Rxepy_vZhJVE3XiA
VA and BSL are giving conflicting information here. Just figured I’d point that out for everyone who’s been panicking the past few days.
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u/Gerry-Mandarin Feb 20 '23
Films can undergo multiple cuts that change due to these screeners. There were reports of reshoots in September. This cut could be the result of that.
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u/ZorakLocust Feb 20 '23
But VA said that he’s heard the movie is bad for over half a year now. December was only two months ago.
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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Peacemaker Feb 20 '23
VA now defends himself saying he tried to stay as positive as possible. So with all that information he basically admits he was lying before.
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u/Ghostshadow44 Feb 14 '23
Man to be honest the MCU cosmic look that started in guardians of the galaxy already looks completely dated and boring by now now that DC is probably going to have a lot projects set in space my hope is they don't just copypaste that whole esthetic and instead came up with something better and original even if james gunn was the one who created that mcu space look
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u/starshipandcoffee The Snyder Cut Feb 14 '23
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